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Anyone have any thoughts on which UFO game is the best?
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Sep 4, 2010 13:42
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Original_Z posted:Anyone have any thoughts on which UFO game is the best? I would say Afterlight, though each game has its own charm as they altered the formula each time. Aftermath is the most 'basic' game and that has its own charm. All regions have a base and you can have three types of bases (and you can change base type with a short 'downtime'), research and engineering bases all contribute to your single research or engineering project and military bases act as a staging area for your squad. Your soldiers gain experience which you can then use to upgrade their stats. In Aftershock regions are spilt between those that provide resources and region capitals that have bases. All bases have varying amounts of space for buildings that you can choose and you have to set up logistics links between capitals to build on them. There are roughly half a dozen different types of research building (with 'basic' and 'advanced' versions) and a corresponding number of manufacturing buildings. There are also dozens of types of gun that you can build, which is completely pointless because there is no point in ever building anything other than the best one. Your soldiers gain experience which you can then use to upgrade their stats AND once they hit certain stat combos you can train them in specialisations that give certain bonuses. In Afterlight you have one base with plenty of space for buildings. Each region on the map gives access to resources, the more of which you get the more advanced buildings you can build (so it's a straight up 'the more resources you have the further down the tech tree you can go'). All your soldiers, scientists and technicians are individuals who gain xp for their respective jobs and on levelling gain a point which can be used to train them in the university for any training you've unlocked. They realised that people only ever used the best gun so it's all simplified into 'rifle' 'shotgun' 'laser rifle' etc. The enemies are set up so that you have to use different damage types. Afermath is a fun game that doesn't require too much thought. People complained about the lack of depth so they went overboard with Aftershock which is nothing but unnecessary depth. In Afterlight they scale it back a bit and get it just right. Think of it as the Goldilocks and The Three Games version of development.
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Sep 4, 2010 14:36
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Original_Z posted:Anyone have any thoughts on which UFO game is the best? I'll take a view on that as ive replaying them just recently. Imo the original (Enemy Unknown) is the best. Storyline is great and as long as you play on at least the medium level you have a hard and fun challenge. Terror From The Deep is a slightly more complex remake of the same game. I personally find it a bit irritating as there is more cover on the maps and you can find it annoying to root out the last alien (that can sometimes be part of the fun though) .Bear in mind there are some problems on the tech tree depending on what version you are getting, you can gently caress yourself up not making it unwinnable but much less fun, read this before playing http://www.xcomufo.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t2294.html Number 3 is a flawed unfinished work that could have been great. In my recent attempt I just found it to annoying to bother going on with. It makes a switch from turn based to real time and personally I prefer turn based. The rest of them are poo poo spin offs, do even go there. Basically #1 & #2 highly recommended, forget the rest. (imo) Graviton v2 fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Sep 4, 2010 |
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Sep 4, 2010 14:41
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Graviton v2 posted:Number 3 is a flawed unfinished work that could have been great. In my recent attempt I just found it to annoying to bother going on with. It makes a switch from turn based to real time and personally I prefer turn based.
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Sep 4, 2010 14:43
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teethgrinder posted:(You can still play it turn-based.)
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Sep 4, 2010 14:45
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I was assuming that he was asking about the UFO games that are on sale right now. My straight up advice is buy Aftermath and Afterlight and skip Aftershock.
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Sep 4, 2010 14:57
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Ah bloody hell, I bought them all. Was gonna skip Aftershock but reviews said it's good once you mod it, so what the hell, only $5.
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Sep 5, 2010 02:31
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Alchenar posted:I was assuming that he was asking about the UFO games that are on sale right now. I'd say skip Aftermath and Afterlight and just play Aftershock  Edit: To elaborate, Aftermath is decent but it's pretty rough and has a really bad difficulty spike once you storm Kasputin Yar, even on the easier difficulties. By comparison, Afterlight balanced the weapons pretty well and allowed for stuff like little Mars rovers that kill things and gain experience, but its maps are so much larger and more repetitive compared to Math and Shock. Also things just get grindy as hell once the Beastmen show up, since they constantly attack you (and you can't ignore them since there's no Council of Earth militia like in Aftermath to auto-win defense missions). After like two hours, the game pretty much devolves into "attack territory so it becomes neutral, send science truck out to slowly drive out and claim it, send technical truck to slowly drive over and have a 50% chance of triggering an alien attack with every improvement it makes." It doesn't help that the resources are all pre-determined, so there's never any sense of surprise or discovery. Thompsons fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Sep 5, 2010 |
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Sep 5, 2010 02:58
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Elias_Maluco posted:Fantasy Wars is a modern version of the old Fantasy General (think Panzer General in a fantasy world). I liked Fantasy General and heard good things about this one, so I bought it. I know it's been only a day, but I'd like to hear your impressions of both of these, esp if Fantasy Wars really is a worthy successor to Fantasy General. Not that I'll get to playing them in the next five years or so. Also, does King's Bounty stand on its own, or is it one of those game that must be played with the expansions? doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Sep 5, 2010 |
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Sep 5, 2010 05:56
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doctorfrog posted:I know it's been only a day, but I'd like to hear your impressions of both of these, esp if Fantasy Wars really is a worthy successor to Fantasy General. Not that I'll get to playing them in the next five years or so. Fantasy wars is, mechanically speaking, Fantasy General: The Remake. It's the kind of game where you boot it up and wonder why no one got sued. It is not a worthy successor to Fantasy General though because it tries to take the formula into areas the makers of the game couldn't really support. There's a story in Fantasy Wars but it's a high contender for the least comprehensible, worst acted story in the history of computer fantasy games. It isn't just uninteresting, it's criminally awful. Every bland cliche gets trotted out and at no point is the story scary, inspiring or even campy enough to get the player to care. A lot of the graphical touches Fantasy Wars adds are also just not that compelling. The graphics aren't so awesome that you really want to see the zoom-in fights, and the fancy effects slow down the simple mechanics that made Fantasy General quick and fun. Ditto the slightly expanded experience rules. The game has a lot of things that sound like cool additions but end up bogging things down. In short, it's a remake that doesn't really add anything. It copy-pastes the mechanics and adds on a bunch of things that really just aren't that impressive. The result is a game that I really wanted to like but never really seemed to get too far in. It is to Fantasy General what the legion of UFO sequels are to the original Xcom.
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Sep 5, 2010 06:28
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I made it through the human campaign in FW (I've gotten about half way through the campaign in FG a few times), and I agree with most of what you said. Doesn't add hardly anything, story awful. On the other hand, you can get through one of the campaigns in less than 60 hours, so it has that over FG. I think it's worth maaybe 2-5 bucks. You'll find that it's very hard to do anything interesting tactically in it though (unit choice, upgrading and positioning wise), which is easily its biggest failing. The only thing I could think of was build a lot of scouts. That was enough to get me through the hummie campaign, but I have no desire to play the other(s).
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Sep 5, 2010 06:45
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Ohthehugemanatee posted:It is to Fantasy General what the legion of UFO sequels are to the original Xcom. This is what seals it. I can either wait for a legit GOG version of Fantasy General or "obtain" the original via the usual means. King's Bounty, though? Is it worth playing without the expansions?
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Sep 5, 2010 07:17
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King's Bounty is actually a pretty great game. I prefer Armored Princess since it's a little less linear and more randomized like the original KB, but either title is definitely worth getting. Gameplay wise, the battles play out almost the exact same as they did in the original KB, but there's a lot more options for customization thanks to the skill trees and equipment you pick up.
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Sep 5, 2010 08:49
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The battles are a LITTLE more complicated than they were in the original KB. I echo the recommendation to play them though. I actually liked the first better... I thought the flavor text was more interesting. Don't play AP on hard or impossible unless you are looking for a real challenge though.
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Sep 5, 2010 15:35
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doctorfrog posted:This is what seals it. I can either wait for a legit GOG version of Fantasy General or "obtain" the original via the usual means. Both games are excellent. Armored Princess has improved gameplay and balance, but The Legend has better and bigger maps. I would say: play the first one, and if you like, get AP. Its basically more of the same, so if you enjoyed TL, you will love AP.
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Sep 6, 2010 20:33
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King's Quest 7+8 is now on GOG for $9.99.
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Sep 7, 2010 11:44
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Didn't know if I should put this in the GOG thread or the adventure games thread, so I might just cross post it... let me know if this was out of line and I'll scrap one of the posts. Here's a chance to win 14 games (well, a 6-pack comprised of 14 games) from Sierra's back catalogue. http://games.news24.com/index.php/sierra-giveway-from-gog-com/ News24Games posted:On offer are: Could be worth a look if you don't already own those ones.
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Sep 7, 2010 12:50
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It's funny how while the download rights for the old Infinity Engine games are a legal mess, the retail rights don't seem to be: http://cdgalaxis.hu/PC/17259/planescape-torment.html (that's $24 for the record)
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Sep 7, 2010 16:03
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Threep posted:It's funny how while the download rights for the old Infinity Engine games are a legal mess, the retail rights don't seem to be: Considering the Torment rerelease only exists in Poland (because CD Projekt) and in the UK (because who knows?), I wouldn't exactly say they're not a mess (the link goes to a copy that predates the recent rerelease).
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Sep 7, 2010 16:05
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Ansob. posted:Considering the Torment rerelease only exists in Poland (because CD Projekt) and in the UK (because who knows?), I wouldn't exactly say they're not a mess (the link goes to a copy that predates the recent rerelease).
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Sep 7, 2010 16:10
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I just got an email from PayPal titled "FLX, welcome the new season with a PayPal experience" which says:PayPal posted:All your favourite PC classics are available online on GOG.com. Pay with PayPal and get 25% discount on 10 great games. Unfortunately the link to "check this offer out" only directs me to PayPal and then to the GOG.com frontpage, without any signs of this deal. Did anybody else get this email and try it out?
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Sep 10, 2010 10:45
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FLX posted:I just got an email from PayPal titled "FLX, welcome the new season with a PayPal experience" which says: Is Paypal under an HTTPS? Cause I'm not getting that at all and it sounds fishy.
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Sep 10, 2010 10:55
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Andrigaar posted:Is Paypal under an HTTPS? Cause I'm not getting that at all and it sounds fishy.
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Sep 10, 2010 11:02
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FLX posted:Yes, it seems to direct to the real PayPal site with a valid security signature (at least according to Google Chrome). I just got this as well. Email is legit for sure.
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Sep 10, 2010 11:12
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Here's a direct link to the deal. Too bad (or good?) there's nothing on the list I want 
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Sep 10, 2010 12:13
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When the hell is gog going to be out of beta? Same poo poo with farmville and all those games, around for years, yet they always say BETA like that is a badge of honor or maybe a free pass for any mistakes? Come on GOG, go gold.
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Sep 11, 2010 01:22
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AxeManiac posted:When the hell is gog going to be out of beta? Same poo poo with farmville and all those games, around for years, yet they always say BETA like that is a badge of honor or maybe a free pass for any mistakes? I noticed that the other day. I seriously wonder what gives, because they opened the site up from the closed beta what, 2 years ago?
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Sep 11, 2010 01:34
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I don't understand what makes a shop a beta. Maybe they don't have solid payroll for their employees yet?
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Sep 11, 2010 02:01
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Maybe it's just until they officially recognize Windows 7 support.
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Sep 11, 2010 02:05
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GOG will be in beta until they've corrected all the major bugs in their system. They've taken care of most of them, but there's still one big one left. For some reason Crusader: No Remorse isn't being properly distributed.
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Sep 11, 2010 02:53
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First I'd heard of a permenant beta, it was Google News. Google News pulls from so many angry copyright holders, the story goes, that they'd face some legal trouble if the service ever went gold. My guess is that GOG is holding onto beta status until they become solvent, or at least predictably profitable.
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Sep 11, 2010 02:55
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Lord_Pigeonbane posted:GOG will be in beta until they've corrected all the major bugs in their system. They've taken care of most of them, but there's still one big one left. For some reason Crusader: No Remorse isn't being properly distributed. This makes me want to see if I can get No Regret running in DosBox. But, ugh, that means either ISO'ing my disc and mounting, running it from CD, or seeing if any no-cd cracks exist. Well, typing that out reminds me why I haven't bothered anyway. So lazy. GoG, take my $10 and give me a package deal with Regret/Remorse.
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Sep 11, 2010 06:37
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Andrigaar posted:This makes me want to see if I can get No Regret running in DosBox. But, ugh, that means either ISO'ing my disc and mounting, running it from CD, or seeing if any no-cd cracks exist. DOSBox can mount a directory as a CD. Not sure if Crusader had DRM or anything, but you might just be able to copy the works to a separate dir and mount it with DOS4GW emulation.
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Sep 11, 2010 06:45
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doctorfrog posted:DOSBox can mount a directory as a CD. Not sure if Crusader had DRM or anything, but you might just be able to copy the works to a separate dir and mount it with DOS4GW emulation. I already know for a fact that games that old only had disc checks. Probably just the drive label. How do I know this? Well, way back when WipeoutXL was brand new, me and my buddies were pretty much young kids with allowances, a part-time job for one or two--we were broke. All these mid-90s games could be copied by dragging file trees. Hell, my first copy of Fallout (before I got the FO2+1 bundle for $20 a few years later) had Eric Cartman dressed up as Scuzzlebut as the CD icon.
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Sep 11, 2010 07:29
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I've asked this before, but there aren't any Disciples II threads around so I"ll ask again. I need advice for this game. Badly. I've checked GameFAQs and other sites, but there is a dearth of information on this game. So let me ask a few questions as well as make a general request for combat tips. Now I usually play as the Mountain Clans because their units are actually tough enough to survive a battle without healing - sometimes. But I would like to try other factions, too, and I want to know how to keep my units alive in battle. I know, for example, that the Empire has a healing unit, but their entire roster is so fragile that any amount of healing I can provide short of having an entire back row full of Acolytes is just a drop in the bucket. Also, does the AI get bonuses that the human doesn't? I've never seen an AI army with less than the maximum number of troops in it, even when I'm struggling to level my hero up enough for a fourth leadership slot. They also seem to have no trouble upgrading multiple armies worth of units when my lone, carefully tended army can barely stay alive, let alone upgrade. Seriously. I want to love this game so badly, but it just kicks my teeth in no matter what I try.
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Sep 12, 2010 06:02
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rt4 posted:Please do post some impressions of Star Wolves later. Well, It's been a bit since I played the games, but I'll give this a shot. First game was fun, if incredibly buggy (it crashed whenever it felt like it, which was all the time). If it's been patched for GoG, it can be a worthwhile game if you enjoy mindfully sweeping maps for stuff to fire at. Second game removed any semblance of a coherent story, added More of Everything and failed (haven't checked if that's in the deal tho) Third game came out a little while ago, was a bit more like the first but not enough. Oh, and it was also mindbogglingly frustrating at points. evilmiera fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Sep 12, 2010 |
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Sep 12, 2010 06:29
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Still Life is now on GOG for $9.99.
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Sep 14, 2010 11:05
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Blodskur posted:Still Life is now on GOG for $9.99. Looks like a brooding and murderous Longest Journey.
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Sep 14, 2010 12:16
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Unrelated to GOG (well, it is a good old game), but I just found out DotEmu have a Windows 7 compatible DRM free version of Aliens versus Predators Classic 2000 for €2.99 ($3.83) here. That's cheaper than me buying it from Steam, even. It looks like it doesn't have multiplayer, though.
Athletic Footjob fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Sep 14, 2010 |
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Sep 14, 2010 12:26
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Andrigaar posted:This makes me want to see if I can get No Regret running in DosBox. But, ugh, that means either ISO'ing my disc and mounting, running it from CD, or seeing if any no-cd cracks exist. DOSbox has native ISO support - you don't need to use separate CD emulation tools. It's simple to create ISOs of your original discs and create DOSbox profiles using the various front-ends out there that mount and run the games. I got Crusader: No Regret and System Shock both running that way. Oh an anyone with video problems running GOG's Independence War 2 on nVidia hardware - The latest nVidia beta drivers now have fixes for old directX games including Independence War 2.
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Sep 14, 2010 13:08
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