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DougieC posted:I think that overall the video games are a highlight of Star Wars media, perhaps the highlight. I was specifically talking about the amazing Starkiller, God of the Force and instigator of all things in the Star Wars universe.
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Nemesis Of Moles posted:I was specifically talking about the amazing Starkiller, God of the Force and instigator of all things in the Star Wars universe. Because of this thread I brought out my old gamecube and ordered Rogue Leader off ebay. I cant wait. :3
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Sep 8, 2010 13:40
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First time I watched Star Wars was being bought to watch the movies for my 9th birthday in 96 with my old man down at one of the decomissioned cinemas in Plymouth. God it was amazing. I truly miss the nostalgia of the first viewing. Everything was better when you were a kid though.
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Sep 8, 2010 14:51
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Clemen posted:Because of this thread I brought out my old gamecube and ordered Rogue Leader off ebay. I cant wait. :3 I was given a Wii as a wedding present (sorry, my wife and i were given it, but you know....) and I immediately bought both Rogue Leader games off ebay to play on it. I was really shocked at how badly designed the whole thing was. Principally, the radar is really badly designed and is very hard to make sense of. You can't follow a Tie Fighter that flashes past you by following it on your radar like you can in X-Wing or gently caress even Battlefront II. So if you lose sight of the enemy you're following you basically have to look all around you to find it again. And the graphics aren't sharp enough to be able to pick out enemy fighters a long way away, so you have to hold down a button to bring up the targeting computer, which superimposes a purple filter on the screen that highlights targets. Except you can't actually do anything whilst looking through the targeting screen. And then the later stages when I'm dying I'm thinking to myself "this game would be ace and less tedious if it only had the interface of a game made ten years previously, which is a bad sign.
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WampaLord posted:It's more than that, he INVENTED the EU in essence. And it wasn't so much Lucasfilm that made that decision, it was when the license passed from Bantem to Del Rey Books, that Del Rey basically said "gently caress all the old authors, we're doing whatever we want with your poo poo!" I, for one, would love to hear as many stories as you feel like posting, on either of the threads you went to. The Zahn, Stackpole, Anderson to hear there thoughts on the EU, and the other one out of morbid curiosity about what they could have possible had to talk about.
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Might as well post this thing. It's been up in Wampa's KotOR thread so it should probably be here as well. Cue the HK- Fanboys.Nemesis of Moles posted:when was the first time you watched star wars? Clemen posted:Because of this thread I brought out my old gamecube and ordered Rogue Leader off ebay. I cant wait. :3 Does anyone know of a way to make it work with XP? I know its over a decade old, will look like crap, and likely won't run without a joystick, but damnit! It was beautiful and I want to play it!
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Sep 8, 2010 16:43
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DougieC posted:I was given a Wii as a wedding present (sorry, my wife and i were given it, but you know....) and I immediately bought both Rogue Leader games off ebay to play on it. Forgive me for sounding like "that guy" for a second but it's probably because you're expecting them to be the console iterations of the X-Wing or Tie Fighter series, and that's completely the wrong way to go about playing them. Rouge Squadron is more like Star Fox or the Ace Combat series than the X-Wing/Tie Series. It's arcadey as gently caress and basically throws everything that you learned from the sim series out the window. I love the poo poo out of the PC X-wing/Tie Fighter games, but they are nothing like Rogue Squadron and if you're looking for a similar game in the Rogue Squadron series, you will definitely be disappointed.
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Sep 8, 2010 16:49
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One of the more upsetting moments of my childhood: Family too poor or busy working for needed money so we couldn't watching ESB or ROTJ together. We got together to watch The Phantom Menace when it came out in the cinema though. But it wasn't the same.
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Rogue Squadron games are at their finest when you use the cheat for infinite lifes (IGIVEUP) and use a TIE. Its good simple arcade fun.Nemesis Of Moles posted:when was the first time you watched star wars?
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Sep 8, 2010 17:23
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Nemesis Of Moles posted:This thread spends way too long getting all angry at the EU, being pissed off at horrible video games and cartoons. Lets just for a moment kick back and remember the three movies we all really love I will never forgive Dad for doing this, because I am and always have been a music nerd (started studying/playing classical music when I was four). I remember sitting there on the sofa, all ready to watch dad's favorite movie. The LucasArts logo fades away. "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..." appears on the screen, and then John Williams's theme proceeded to blow my brain out the back of my head. That is what I remember of my first viewing: that sudden crash of horns and the sudden understanding that I had never heard anything like this in a film before. And that was at home watching a VHS on my parent's little TV with crappy built-in speakers; I can't even imagine hearing that for the first time in movie theater surround-sound glory. The movies themselves are a lot of fun and all, but Williams's score elevates it to pure awesome.
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Sep 8, 2010 18:32
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Mister_Eel posted:Ok that's it.
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Sep 8, 2010 18:58
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TorpedoFish posted:I can't even imagine hearing that for the first time in movie theater surround-sound glory. I'm very sorry you didn't get to hear it like that.  On music: The best thing in the entire trilogy for me was the flute song over the celebrations on Endor at the end of RotJ. To this day I can't help but love that song. After the theme has been tainted by the prequels, it is now the best thing I have to remind me of the OT's awesomeness.
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Sep 8, 2010 18:59
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Boondock Saint posted:Forgive me for sounding like "that guy" for a second but it's probably because you're expecting them to be the console iterations of the X-Wing or Tie Fighter series, and that's completely the wrong way to go about playing them. No, I knew what to expect in part because I had played the original Rogue Squadron on PC, and I had played its sequels in the past. All I'm complaining about is that the radar in the game is completely unhelpful when it comes to the dogfighting aspect of the game. Even Battlefront II (also "arcadey as gently caress") had arrows around the side of the screen representing the direction of nearby enemies. When it comes to playing this game I basically have to look up down left right and all over until I happen upon an enemy, which gets tedious. It's also a problem on some land missions. There's one set in a city with lots of canyons that contain generators you have to blow up, but even though they're marked on your radar, the degree of accuracy is such that you can't use it to guide yourself even into the right canyon, which lead to tedium of going down each canyon (whilst being chased by enemy fighters and shot at by turbolasers) hoping you'll stumble upon your orbjective.
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Rogue Leader sucks compared to the other Rogue games. They even managed to squeeze the fun out of like the 7 space missions they put in there.
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Sep 8, 2010 19:59
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DougieC posted:Radar sucks. Yeah, you have a valid criticism then. The radar was never all that great I agree, but I had a blast with the first three games (Battle for Naboo included). Rebel Strike wasn't horrible, but it was a slight let down.
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thrawn527 posted:I, for one, would love to hear as many stories as you feel like posting, on either of the threads you went to. The Zahn, Stackpole, Anderson to hear there thoughts on the EU, and the other one out of morbid curiosity about what they could have possible had to talk about. Well who am I to deny a Grand Admiral? I would have poster earlier, but my cable modem died and I just replaced it. The author panel was pretty sweet, and the highlight of the con for me. Zahn, Stackpole and KJA were all very interesting with their stories. They talked about getting into writing Star Wars, their thoughts on the prequels, discussed the characters they had created (apparently Anderson had no input into Daala's first name), etc. The "Adult Themes in Star Wars" was basically everyone taking Star Wars stuff and making it raunchy. Examples - Ewok blowjobs, slash fic discussions, using Force Powers during sex, you get the idea. It was actually pretty funny for the most part, and Aaron Allston was there on the panel along with the two hosts. He didn't chime in a ton, but when he did, it was usually to crack a good joke. It was immature and kind of awkward at times, but I laughed a lot as did everyone else. Here is a pic of the author panel. From left to right we have Timothy Zahn, Michael Stackpole, Kevin J. Anderson, Rebecca Moesta and A.C. Crispin.  Edit: Chairman Capone posted:Also, WampaLord, how did KJA seem while being on that panel with the two far superior authors? He was totally fine, I think they all were friends basically because they told several stories of collaborating with certain character and ideas and working together to keep the continuity of each other's novels. For example, Stackpole talked about having to manage Corran Horn with the Jedi Academy series and how he worked with Anderson on finding ways to make it fit. So it's not like Anderson seemed jealous or hateful of them in any way. WampaLord fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Sep 8, 2010 |
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With all this talk of Rogue Leader, which I have...and it's predecessor, on their original systems. I'm burnt out right now and want to do some escapism. Is it worth it to pay $6 for Rebel Strike(the Third Rogue game). It's used at a local shop, I remember renting it and playing the "drive through the forest on a speeder" level, crashing repeatedly, and giving up. So: Worth the revisit at that price? I really just want more Rogue Squadron/Leader action. The two player Rogue/Leader part would be useful too, since I could get (read: force) my girl to play some with me. (she plays Lego Star Wars) Also: Wraith Squadron DOES rock. Thanks for that suggestions guys. I finished up Iron Fist and am moving on, but I took a break to read I, Jedi (which was good) in-between. Can't wait for the last, but I also don't want the Rogue series to end...so...bittersweet.
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I didn't realise that A.C Crispin was a woman  She should write some more Star Wars books already, the Han Solo trilogy was really good, maybe uh some more Lando books?
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Not A Bear posted:I didn't realise that A.C Crispin was a woman She actually just finished a prequel book to Pirates of the Caribbean, detailing Jack Sparrow's past. It comes out the same week as the new movie with him sometime in 2011, though she stressed that they are NOT RELATED in any way in terms of plot and whatnot. Shimrra Jamaane posted:You should have asked them their opinion on Traviss. I didn't want to get the evil eye:  from 5 people at once
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Bene Elim posted:Speaking of older StarWars games, I have an old CD for X-wing, but no way to run it.
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WampaLord posted:The "Adult Themes in Star Wars" was basically everyone taking Star Wars stuff and making it raunchy. Examples - Ewok blowjobs, slash fic discussions, using Force Powers during sex, you get the idea. This sounds doubly creepy by virtue of KJA being sat next to his wife. The kinky roleplay they no doubt indulge in is not a pretty image.
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McGann posted:Also: Wraith Squadron DOES rock. Thanks for that suggestions guys. I finished up Iron Fist and am moving on, but I took a break to read I, Jedi (which was good) in-between. Can't wait for the last, but I also don't want the Rogue series to end...so...bittersweet. Be content with the foreknowledge that it arguably saves its best for last.
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McGann posted:With all this talk of Rogue Leader, which I have...and it's predecessor, on their original systems. For six bucks it's totally worth it.
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Sep 8, 2010 21:37
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DougieC posted:This sounds doubly creepy by virtue of KJA being sat next to his wife. No, at the adult themes panel it was just Allston and two fans hosting. Zahn was supposed to be there, but his voice gave out
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WampaLord posted:Zahn was supposed to be there, but his voice gave out Or he decided it would be loving creepy, and made up an excuse. Thanks for the recap! Love the picture. Stackpole seems to have lost some weight since the last time I saw him.
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It'd be funny if a big time Dune fan walked up to shake KJA's hand, and just emptied a clip into his stomach.
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DougieC posted:Actually, TFN seems pretty responsibly moderated at the moment. The dissatisfaction with the series, and also with Traviss, runs all the way to the top mods like Havac who let it run provided it's on-topic in the thread. In fact, the only moderation that I've seen occur recently has been in posts by pro-Traviss cretins (when Robimus turned to personal snipes after overwhelmingly failing to offer good defense of her works). Really? Wow, that is a pretty big change of culture than from when I was on TFN. Back then I remember Havac actually being the main pro-Traviss mod. I think he actually once banned me for voicing my irritations with Traviss. Funny to see that LOTF was so bad that it changed people's opinions so much (although I also remember TFN posters continually trying to look at LOTF with rose-colored glasses and say how "it will all make sense in the end, there's no way all these loose plot threads will be kept dangling at the end of the series!" long after they should have). WampaLord posted:
What the gently caress is "Her Universe"? I know that Zahn also worked with KJA on Pellaeon's character when KJA used him in Darksaber. But I'm kind of surprised that AC Crispin was there, after she wrote the Han Solo books didn't she have some kind of falling out with Lucasfilm? Maybe I'm just misremembering. Also to be honest I would rather read KJA's Star Wars novels (including his Young Jedi Academy stuff) a thousand times over any of his Dune works. I will admit that I have enjoyed some of KJA's stand-alone (ie non-tie-in) works, although I haven't read that big space opera series of his so maybe that is also terrible.
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Chairman Capone posted:Really? Wow, that is a pretty big change of culture than from when I was on TFN. Back then I remember Havac actually being the main pro-Traviss mod. I think he actually once banned me for voicing my irritations with Traviss. Funny to see that LOTF was so bad that it changed people's opinions so much (although I also remember TFN posters continually trying to look at LOTF with rose-colored glasses and say how "it will all make sense in the end, there's no way all these loose plot threads will be kept dangling at the end of the series!" long after they should have). Times definitely change, then. Here is his review of Imperial Commando Havac posted:Uaaaaaaaaauuuugh. So whilst he may have been a fan and a censor at some stage, he clearly found IC to be his least favourite book ever, and can spot that Traviss's style isn't the so-called "reasonable to question preconceptions" strategy the simpleminded commend her for, but is instead fallacious and incredibly dumb.
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Twilight with sparkly armor is the best way to describe Traviss's books.
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Chairman Capone posted:What the gently caress is "Her Universe"? Some Star Wars clothing line for women that was a sponsor for all the Star Wars panels.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Twilight with sparkly armor is the best way to describe Traviss's books. Didn't I say that special forces characters in rightwing wingnut nutjob fiction are basically the equivalent of vampires for the Twilight crowd?
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astr0man posted:Looked back a few pages and didn't see this posted - Ole Miss apparently actually tried to make Admiral Ackbar their official school mascot. Here's the ESPN commercial about it: Jeez, I had to stifle laughter as I pictured a play specifically sculpted to cause the opposing QB to yell "It's a trap!" before getting sacked. Has anyone taken a stab at rewriting the prequels so it keeps GL's vision/intent but doesn't suck, things make sense, and actually handles things in an adult manner? Drighton fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Sep 8, 2010 |
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Throb Robinson posted:Rogue Leader sucks compared to the other Rogue games. They even managed to squeeze the fun out of like the 7 space missions they put in there.
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Casimir Radon posted:It'd be funny if a big time Dune fan walked up to shake KJA's hand, and just emptied a clip into his stomach. I have changed the combination to the lock on my diary. And it was just going to be a slap in the face anyway.
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Flagrant Abuse posted:You're thinking of Rebel Strike. Rogue Leader was the middle one with the awesome movie battles. They had their pros and cons. Strike actually had a story but was really easy and with super lovely on-foot sections, Leader had the coolest missions but was punishingly hard (gently caress the Death Star 2 run, gently caress it so hard). I mean drat I had gold medals in every N64 Rogue Squadron mission but could barely get anything above a bronze in Rogue Leader.
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mllaneza posted:I have changed the combination to the lock on my diary. And it was just going to be a slap in the face anyway.
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Der Luftwaffle posted:They had their pros and cons. Strike actually had a story but was really easy and with super lovely on-foot sections, Leader had the coolest missions but was punishingly hard (gently caress the Death Star 2 run, gently caress it so hard). N64 Rogue Squadron was also fairly underwhelming, easy and straightforward though.
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Duckman2008 posted:N64 Rogue Squadron was also fairly underwhelming, easy and straightforward though. True fans played Rogue Squadron 3D! on PC with a joystick.
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