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EG posted:I know people don't talk poo poo on Michael Stackpole's XWing books in this thread, BUT I just read them all and the one thing that really bothered me was how in every book at least 1 character dies, but then NOPE they're actually alive the whole time, everyone just thought they were dead. It gets to the point where you know anyone who dies is coming back. In Isard's Revenge basically every single character thinks the other characters are dead, AND the bad guy they killed in a previous book is back with her clone... Think of them as novelizations of comic books (except without the actual comic books).
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arioch posted:Think of them as novelizations of comic books (except without the actual comic books). In an ironic twist, in the actual Rogue Squadron comics they knock off established characters left and right.
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So I never really asked what the story behind the biggs and luke scene in ANH was. I've seen pictures of a scene that was in the script where they're talking on tattooine. I never really found out why that wasn't included in the movie.
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Sep 14, 2010 01:14
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Torael_7 posted:More importantly, it makes landing hits easier as compared to, say, the nose mounted lasers on a tie fighter or y-wing, since you've got a wider shot spread - a target juking & jinking to avoid your fire has to move further. 
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Kingtheninja posted:So I never really asked what the story behind the biggs and luke scene in ANH was. I've seen pictures of a scene that was in the script where they're talking on tattooine. I never really found out why that wasn't included in the movie. It was originally added to the script so the audience wouldn't have to wait 20 minutes meet the film's protagonist. The scene was subsequently filmed and cut due to pacing and the fact that it didn't really add anything to the story. Most people who claim to remember seeing the Biggs scenes (pre-1997) are mistaken, in that the scenes are included in the novelization, radio drama, and children's storybook (which featured pictures). There have been alleged occasions where the film was shown with the scenes intact, but it's hard to substantiate. In 1997 (I believe), LucasArts released a CD-ROM called Star Wars: Behind the Magic, which featured, among other things, the complete Biggs sequences.
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NGL posted:In 1997 (I believe), LucasArts released a CD-ROM called Star Wars: Behind the Magic, which featured, among other things, the complete Biggs sequences. That was a great CD, if only for the Stormtrooper testing range.
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EG posted:I know people don't talk poo poo on Michael Stackpole's XWing books in this thread, BUT I just read them all and the one thing that really bothered me was how in every book at least 1 character dies, but then NOPE they're actually alive the whole time, everyone just thought they were dead. It gets to the point where you know anyone who dies is coming back. In Isard's Revenge basically every single character thinks the other characters are dead, AND the bad guy they killed in a previous book is back with her clone... One dude's fighter gets hit by a planet-defence ion and disintegrates. The shistavenen gets annihilated by a star destroyer jumping in right beside him. I think the rodian pilot bites it somewhere. But yeah, Stackpole liked his characters too much to kill them all off. Allston is better at killing people.
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T-1000 posted:Lujayne is executed by stormies in the first one (although she gets replaced by her sister). Asyr collides with a... TIE Bomber, I think? Anyways, that was a dick move on the part of Stackpole, IMO. Poor Gavin. 
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Didn't Biggs cowardly brother die horribly in one too?
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Milky Moor posted:Asyr collides with a... TIE Bomber, I think? Anyways, that was a dick move on the part of Stackpole, IMO. Poor Gavin. Asyr doesn't die. She staged it because bothan leadership pressured her to stop being with gavin so she sets out to change bothan society so it is socially acceptable to gently caress interspecies.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Didn't Biggs cowardly brother die horribly in one too? Closest he comes to dying is the star destroyer jumping right beside him and his wingman while they're pirating a freighter. The freighter shields him from the SD so he blind-jumps while everyone else gets liquefied. Miraculously managing to not-die, he ends up at a small colony on a freezing, inhospitable world. They give him fuel and food and he sends them free bacta that they're stealing. Isard tracks the freighters and kills everyone in the colony via bombardment. T-1000 fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Sep 14, 2010 |
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NGL posted:It was originally added to the script so the audience wouldn't have to wait 20 minutes meet the film's protagonist. The scene was subsequently filmed and cut due to pacing and the fact that it didn't really add anything to the story. That's what I figured, but I can't figure out why it hasn't been added to the dvds or upcoming blu ray release. I feel like that would sell a lot of copies.
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Kingtheninja posted:That's what I figured, but I can't figure out why it hasn't been added to the dvds or upcoming blu ray release. I feel like that would sell a lot of copies. The same reason it was cut from the film in the first place. It adds nothing and fucks up the pacing. Same reason we don't want the lightsaber-building scene put back into Return of the Jedi.
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Chaos Hippy posted:It adds nothing and fucks up the pacing. I have a feeling this should not disturb Lucas much at this point.
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T-1000 posted:Oh, if only. Actually he got shot by a blaster on some jungle world as well. He nearly died then.
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Dash Magnum posted:It wouldn't surprise me if in his next installment a Jedi develops laser vision or shape-shifting. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/T'ra_Saa I can't think of any species with laser vision off the top of my head, but I'm sure that someone, somewhere in George's universe has it.
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They should make a sereies following the adventures of Jedi-DoubleGrandmaster Calel from the planet Cryypton.
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Casimir Radon posted:It's probably the best book of the series so far. I really want to be contrary and say that none of the books are good enough to be best of anything, but in an of itself, there's nothing not true about this statement. Diacritical Mark posted:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/T'ra_Saa I'm so goddamn sick of all these Star Wars. On the other hand, I probably should have known as soon as I typed that out that there was a good chance there'd be something somewhere that already existed. Truly the EU is an amazing, magical and frightening thing.
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Knights of the Old Republic on STEAM for 5 Dollars/Euros/Pounds. If you haven't got it and you like decent RPGs/Star Wars get it.
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Sep 14, 2010 22:33
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Even better, its $2.50 US dollars. I own it on cd already, but I just rebought it to avoid that 3 disc install.
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vkeios posted:Even better, its $2.50 US dollars. I own it on cd already, but I just rebought it to avoid that 3 disc install. You know, it is rather tempting for this reason alone.
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Sep 14, 2010 22:39
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Too bad KoTOR doesn't work right on Windows 7.
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Sep 14, 2010 22:41
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Too bad KoTOR doesn't work right on Windows 7.  Yes it does
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Too bad KoTOR doesn't work right on Windows 7. I own the steam version and play it on windows 7 just fine.
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happy cabbage posted:Asyr doesn't die. She staged it because bothan leadership pressured her to stop being with gavin so she sets out to change bothan society so it is socially acceptable to gently caress interspecies. Everyone thinks she is though, and I'm pretty sure she hasn't been in any other EU work. Kind of the same thing. quote:Closest he comes to dying is the star destroyer jumping right beside him and his wingman while they're pirating a freighter. The freighter shields him from the SD so he blind-jumps while everyone else gets liquefied. Miraculously managing to not-die, he ends up at a small colony on a freezing, inhospitable world. They give him fuel and food and he sends them free bacta that they're stealing. Gavin Darklighter, the most  pilot in Rogue Squadron.
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Milky Moor posted:Everyone thinks she is though, and I'm pretty sure she hasn't been in any other EU work. Kind of the same thing. Booster Terrik knows. And potentially Kre'fey.
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Boondock Saint posted:
Well it doesn't work right in the sense that it's not really a good game but that isn't because of Windows 7
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Fledgling Gulps posted:Well it doesn't work right in the sense that it's not really a good game but that isn't because of Windows 7 Blasphemy! Seriously though, most people I've run into enjoyed the game and found it to be a standout and the pinnacle of Star Wars games amidst the mediocre games Lucasarts releases these days. Why don't you think it's a good game?
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Boondock Saint posted:Blasphemy! To be honest I don't have much of a right to give an opinion on it, I bought it last time it was $2 and only put about an hour and half into it. I remember being pretty bored.
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Boondock Saint posted:Blasphemy! Some people don't like it because it follows Biowares traditional storyline like with their other RPG games. Personally I don't give a toss. Fledgling Gulps posted:To be honest I don't have much of a right to give an opinion on it, I bought it last time it was $2 and only put about an hour and half into it. I remember being pretty bored. The start is pretty slow burn yeah, but it is worth the struggle. After Dantooine everything is kick rear end. I find the same problem with Fallout 3 and Oblivion, both are awesome games but gently caress the boring hour long tutorials you can't skip.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Some people don't like it because it follows Biowares traditional storyline like with their other RPG games. Traditional Bioware storyline, traditional Bioware NWN world setup, traditional Bioware side-characters, "old-timey" spin on Star Wars pen and paper RPG supplement material, terrible terrible Dark Side options except for some stuff near the end. Good parts: HK-47, and the twist because that kind of twist was relatively unexpected and exciting then instead of just de rigueur.
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At least you liked the music right? Either way enjoy it, the next Star Wars game will be FORCE UNLEASHED EXTREME SPACE KARTS.
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I'd play that.
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Faerunner posted:I'd play that. Well yeah, we all would. Just for the novelty of seeing P-Diddy or Vader crammed on a tiny space gokart.
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SeanBeansShako posted:At least you liked the music right? I'm game if it features a Starkiller-powered star destroyer. Death stars can be the chompers in chains.
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SeanBeansShako posted:At least you liked the music right? uhhh.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjWw6s5x0I0
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:uhhh.... Oh. Its already been done? Uh, Force Unleashed Tennis or Golf then. Also, Empire At War Gold is now being sold cheap on STEAM.
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uPen posted:I own the steam version and play it on windows 7 just fine. How? There are massive threads on many forums all focusing around the specific way to install the game and additional thing you must download to make it work in Windows 7. And even then it can still gently caress up. For example: My game crashes during each cut scene unless I go to the desktop and back right at the start of them.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How? There are massive threads on many forums all focusing around the specific way to install the game and additional thing you must download to make it work in Windows 7. And even then it can still gently caress up. For example: My game crashes during each cut scene unless I go to the desktop and back right at the start of them. Chiming in to say that during my Let's Play of KOTOR (another opportunity to pimp my own thread, yes!) I upgraded from Vista to Windows 7 with no issues for the Steam version of KOTOR. I did try some weird registry thing to make it use both cores instead of just one, but that made it crash a lot, so I just un-did the change.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How? There are massive threads on many forums all focusing around the specific way to install the game and additional thing you must download to make it work in Windows 7. And even then it can still gently caress up. For example: My game crashes during each cut scene unless I go to the desktop and back right at the start of them. Are these for the steam version? Steam generally does the compatibility stuff for you.
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