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So the new Dodge Durango is unwrapped. (probably)3 rows of seats, based on the new Grand Cherokee/Mercedes GL floorplan, Pentastar V6 or 5.7l Hemi with VVT, RWD or AWD. Click here for the full 808x402 image. Chrysler has been hitting it out of the park with their new trucks. This really beats the hell out of basically anything on the market right now, since the new Explorer and GM Lambdas are all FWD. 3 row seating with a big pushrod V8 and RWD? Yes please. quote:September 2, 2010 , Auburn Hills, Mich. -
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Throatwarbler posted:In fact, drivers can go more than 500 miles* *With the optional 100-gallon fuel tank  Why don't they stop beating around the bush and just tell people the MPG outright? 500 miles means nothing when you don't know the size of the tank.
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KozmoNaut posted:*With the optional 100-gallon fuel tank No poo poo; we could do Phoenix to LA in our Suburban, generally flogging the hell out of the 350 most of the way, without a single fuel stop. It had nothing to do with the absurdly dismal mileage and everything to do with a 40 gallon tank. I can't do the same in a Camry or my Mazdaspeed3, just because they carry about a third of the fuel.
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My Camry has a 17 gallon tank, and I've eked 500 miles out of the thing between road trip fillups.  During my last move, was still over 1/2 tank when our big rear end Budget truck had to stop for fuel.
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MrKatharsis posted:My Camry has a 17 gallon tank, and I've eked 500 miles out of the thing between road trip fillups. It was my mother-in-law's Camry, with a V6, my lead foot, and I'm sure the thing is still rolling on original sparkplugs (and probably still had the original gear oil in the transmission at the time, too).
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MrKatharsis posted:My Camry has a 17 gallon tank, and I've eked 500 miles out of the thing between road trip fillups. 35 litres and about 800km with a bit of effort (9.25 gallons and 500 miles if anyone cares)
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New SSC to beat Veyron SS: http://jalopnik.com/5630025/ssc-ultimate-aero-ii-first-photos-of-americas-bugatti-fighter Wonder how this will progress.
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This is the culmination of the horsepower arms race:
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A5H posted:New SSC to beat Veyron SS: flaming fireball of death. My money is on the SSC to hold that title.
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A5H posted:New SSC to beat Veyron SS: Oh hey a pagani gallardo 458.
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Sep 5, 2010 22:04
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Throatwarbler posted:
That grill looks like a Lincoln.
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Audi TT RS is inbound by the third quarter of 2011. No pricing info yet; an Audi USA source told me that they're hoping for "significantly under" $70K. My fingers are crossed.
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 Click here for the full 1280x518 image. Spartan-V, Australian track special. $80k, Ducati 1198 engine in a 300kg space frame and carbon fiber tub. Atom, X-Bow, Caterham 7, and now this, the bantamweight segment is growing. Marvin K. Mooney fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Sep 17, 2010 |
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Sep 16, 2010 04:37
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Less than 700 lbs? Would that make it weigh less than the bike the engine came from?
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Left Ventricle posted:Less than 700 lbs? Would that make it weigh less than the bike the engine came from? That ducati engine is probably around 400 lbs. So ~1300 lbs curb weight (conservative estimate). Also it looks like a TVR to me. Maybe I've been playing Forza too much...
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DogDodger posted:Audi TT RS is inbound by the third quarter of 2011. No pricing info yet; an Audi USA source told me that they're hoping for "significantly under" $70K. My fingers are crossed. gently caress time for another 5 cyl thread. A MIRACLE posted:That ducati engine is probably around 400 lbs. So ~1300 lbs curb weight (conservative estimate). Everything you know about motorcycles comes from pictures, doesn't it. Left Ventricle posted:Less than 700 lbs? Would that make it weigh less than the bike the engine came from? The 1198 weighs in at 372lbs, the engine is probably ~150. Most FSAE cars weigh in close to 500ish even with a 4cyl bike engine, so this probably uses a similar design. Muffinpox fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Sep 16, 2010 |
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A MIRACLE posted:That ducati engine is probably around 400 lbs. So ~1300 lbs curb weight (conservative estimate). A entire Ducati 1198 weighs less than 400 pounds, how would the engine weigh more than the bike.
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Muffinpox posted:Everything you know about motorcycles comes from pictures, doesn't it. yep
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bidikyoopi posted:
Pretty sure the 300kg includes the engine. This thing weighs barely 3x as much as my old 5.5hp go kart.
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There are people that weigh more than that car. Awesome.
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bidikyoopi posted:Australian track special. $80k, Ducati 1198 engine in a 300kg space frame and carbon fiber tub. Atom, X-Bow, Caterham 7, and now this, the bantamweight segment is growing. It pisses me off how overpriced some of those cars in that segment are. Ariel and Caterham I'm looking at you.
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Throatwarbler posted:So the new Dodge Durango is unwrapped. (probably)3 rows of seats, based on the new Grand Cherokee/Mercedes GL floorplan, Pentastar V6 or 5.7l Hemi with VVT, RWD or AWD. That looks really good. I liked the looks of the original Durango, and then the second iteration was barf-inducing. I'm not (and probably never will be) in the market for a full-size SUV but if I was, I'd definitely test-drive one of these.
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Has there been any news about the fiat 500 getting the abarth treatment in the states. I'd guess that's pretty unlikely.
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frozenphil posted:Looks like we really are getting the new Focus RS. Looks like I'm delaying my purchase of a new Fiesta. I can't believe Ford might be bringing the RS to the states. edit Swordfish posted:Has there been any news about the fiat 500 getting the abarth treatment in the states. I'd guess that's pretty unlikely. I think they might if the RS sells. I just watched the Top Gear where Jeremy takes out the Abarth and goddamn does it look awesome. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Sep 16, 2010 |
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You're cross shopping between a fiesta and a focus RS? 
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Swordfish posted:Has there been any news about the fiat 500 getting the abarth treatment in the states. I'd guess that's pretty unlikely. They'll be using the 1.4 MultiAir 135HP engine on the 500 Sport or whatever they're going to call it. There will be an equivalent to the base Abarth but it probably won't be Abarth-branded and we almost definitely won't get the EsseEsse. Sir Tonk, the Focus RS and the Fiat 500 have literally nothing to do with each other and we'll see a 135HP Fiat before the upcoming RS even goes in to series production. edit: Fiat 500 Sport courtesy of AB http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/14/chrysler-shows-off-fiat-500-sport-for-north-america/ My main question is about suspension tuning. KYOON GRIFFEY JR fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Sep 16, 2010 |
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A5H posted:You're cross shopping between a fiesta and a focus RS? I don't think he's cross-shopping poo poo. He was going to get a Fiesta, but since there's a chance he can get an RS, he's waiting.
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More upbeat news from Chrysler, apparently they've got a  9 speed automatic transmission in the pipeline that will come after the 8 speed comes out next year. Considering that they're still putting 4 speeds in Chrysler 300s, it would be a huge technical leap. The best pic from that post:  Also the Viper's back for 2012.
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Throatwarbler posted:The best pic from that post: Assuming you can't actually go from 5th to 1st, and with some kind of lockout for reverse, that would be pretty cool. Just kinda roll the shifter around, then up though the center for N.
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Throatwarbler posted:More upbeat news from Chrysler, apparently they've got a This is pretty cool. I hadn't heard anything about this, but I'll definitely be keeping an eye open for them now.
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Throatwarbler posted:More upbeat news from Chrysler, apparently they've got a Yep i can see shifting from 1st to 7th many times before getting used to that.
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Delivery McGee posted:Assuming you can't actually go from 5th to 1st, and with some kind of lockout for reverse, that would be pretty cool. Just kinda roll the shifter around, then up though the center for N. autophreak posted:Yep i can see shifting from 1st to 7th many times before getting used to that. It's an automatic, there would be no direct connection between your hand and the servos/hydraulics that actuate the gear shifts.
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bidikyoopi posted:It's an automatic, there would be no direct connection between your hand and the servos/hydraulics that actuate the gear shifts. It's not real, just a lovely PS someone posted making fun of Chrysler. Sorry, I got probated before I could make that clear. 
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I got bored and started looking around to see if there was any word for US pricing for the Fiat 500s yet, anyone know anything? I haven't found anything concrete in my five seconds of googling.
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New 6 series interior is amazing. Not very keen on the exterior though.
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It's at least an improvement over the last generation.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute here: "The Dodge Viper hot-rod will be back in 2012. The concept vehicle displayed at the meeting had been painted more than 25 times with a candy-apple red to give it a sleek appeal. The vehicle is more upscale and has moved away from its race car image." Oh my god. As an autobody painter, my mind is blown with the poor writing. - Painted more than 25 times to get the color perfect? If so, why bother even mentioning it? Color experimentation is nothing new, though I question why they had to paint an entire vehicle instead of a metal loving panel. - Painted with over 25 coats of candy coat? If so, how is the paint NOT falling off in huge chunks? Also, upscale exactly how? The Viper's a loving luxury car now? The Viper's always been about raw uncompromising power and handling. You will be uncomfortable and your rear end will be sore, but you'll have a giant poo poo eating grin on your face anyway.The kind of people that would buy a Viper for daily driving luxury and power for prestige are probably more likely to buy an SLK for the MB brand and image it gives over any Dodge product, much less the Viper. Once you reach the 6 digit car pricing segment, I don't really think it matters if you throw an extra 100k onto the price tag so saying that it's cheaper is still not much of an argument either. I'm pretty confused about the reasoning behind these things...
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Naky posted:The Viper's always been about raw uncompromising power and handling. what? Naky posted:You will be uncomfortable and your rear end will be sore. This market doesn't exist for good reason. Nobody wants to pay that kind of money and get half a car when they can get just as fast of a car that does more.
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Morphix posted:what? Are you just trolling? Do you even know what a Viper is? quote:Once you reach the 6 digit car pricing segment, I don't really think it matters if you throw an extra 100k onto the price tag so saying that it's cheaper is still not much of an argument either. Which one of the cars you mentioned is a "6 digit car"? Do you realize 100k is 6 digits? What the christ are you babbling about? Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Sep 20, 2010 |
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Throatwarbler posted:Are you just trolling? Do you even know what a Viper is? In Canada, a brand new Viper and the SLK are both six digit cars. What their prices are in the US or whatever I don't know and don't really care because honestly, gently caress US car pricing.
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