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jamal posted:If anything it runs lean from the factory, and the timing maps suck for our 91 octane fuel. Here's a stock pull: What the gently caress is going on, because that just does not happen here. Plus, it's beaten into you with a stick to only use the best (ie 98 or your 93) or else.
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oRenj9 posted:You post is exactly what I felt today. My 07 WRX is probably going to be totaled ( :'( ). So I was out shopping for a replacement. I went to a dealership, initially looking at a Legacy wagon, but decided to take a 09 WRX for a drive. And wow. It feels like the same car, just with every little thing fixed. As you said, the engine no longer stutters < 2k RPMs, the seat material is nicer, the climate control knobs are superb, etc. The amount that they refined the engine was absolutely stunning. Personally after my WRX was totaled I was torn between the STI and the LGT. If I were only to be able to choose between WRX and LGT, I would have selected the LGT without a doubt. I drove the 2010 LGT personally so maybe this isn't relevant to a 2008. The LGT having the same amount of power (as the WRX) combined with its mod friendly nature, comfort and quiet was very appealing to me. The LGT isn't going to have the transmission howl that the WRX has which is very nice (that really got on my nerves with my 08 WRX). allonblack fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Sep 17, 2010 |
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Cat Terrist posted:Plus, it's beaten into you with a stick to only use the best (ie 98 or your 93) or else. 93 isn't available in a lot of states, they only have 91.
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Cat Terrist posted:What the gently caress is going on, because that just does not happen here. Plus, it's beaten into you with a stick to only use the best (ie 98 or your 93) or else. It's because you can't get anything over 91 in california. It's the 91 throwing a wrench in poo poo. edit: Note: You can get over 91 but it's usually insanely rare and inordinately expensive
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Sep 17, 2010 02:59
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I also only have access to 91 unless I buy drums of race gas. There's some mumbo jumbo about how at my elevation they can only offer 91 or something, but I think it's just laziness. I can get 94 octane E10 but it does a number on my fuel economy - at least 5% worse.
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bull3964 posted:Those plots are from STIs though aren't they? Are the regular WRX stock tunes the same way? regular wrx has a less aggressive timing map, so you generally end up with a smoother curve and more power, out here with 91 anyway. In the states with 93 at the pump an sti plot doesn't look so bad. But hey from that second plot just look at what a tune does to these things. Speaking of subaru dyno plots, here's what our time attack car makes:  picture of said car: 
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Sep 17, 2010 04:12
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Yeah, it makes me happy that the default premium fuel in PA is 93 with an occasional 92. Sunoco pisses me off though. Up until recently, their top fuel was 94 with 93 being the step below. They changed that two years ago and the top fuel is 93 and the one below that is 91 (all without changing the price of course).
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Sep 17, 2010 04:35
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wtf? It's almost universally 87, 89, 91 here in Seattle. (or is it 92? I can't remember)
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syphon posted:wtf? It's almost universally 87, 89, 91 here in Seattle. (or is it 92? I can't remember) In western PA, the grades are nearly always 87, 89, 93. Occasionally, you'll see 92 instead of 93. Sunoco used to do 87,89,93,94 but now they just do 87,89,91,93.
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bull3964 posted:Sunoco pisses me off though. Up until recently, their top fuel was 94 with 93 being the step below. They changed that two years ago and the top fuel is 93 and the one below that is 91 (all without changing the price of course). Sunoco was bought out by Petro-Canadaa little while back. All of our stations in Canada have been switched over from Sunoco to Petro-Cans, but they still had Sunoco94 at the pumps under the new Petro-Can name. EDIT: quote:Petro-Canada offers three grades of gasoline across Canada, and a fourth grade in selected areas: We have it in Sarnia too, but it probably has something to do with.. quote:Following World War II, Sun expanded internationally. Its first Canadian refinery was built in 1953 in Sarnia, Ontario, home to a burgeoning new petrochemical industry Sockington fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Sep 17, 2010 |
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c355n4 posted:http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2042948 There are idiots in pretty much every car community. Just be glad that most of the people (from reading the first couple of pages, anyway) realize what a bad idea $400 coilovers are. Although I do admit this is pretty bad.. quote:wow this great. I was looking into getting raceland coilovers for my e36 325is few months back, then just had a MK3 jetta, samething raceland coilovers for 288 shippied. Now for wrx DAM! lol Event ho it says for gen 2, this will work on my GC8?
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dphi posted:There are idiots in pretty much every car community. Just be glad that most of the people (from reading the first couple of pages, anyway) realize what a bad idea $400 coilovers are. NASIOC is truly the rear end end of the Subaru community tho. Jamal - thanks for the info re: fuels. I had no idea 98 equivalent wasnt actually readily availible like it is here - I honesty get concerned if I'm forced to run 95 (highly rare now), I *know* that's not good enough so now I can see why a tune would be a good idea. But why the hell is it like that? I would have thought 98 equivalent would have been popular and widely availible.
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My mum has an '03 Forester (non turbo) that will need a new clutch in a few thousand km, should I advise her to get a new stock clutch or would an aftermarket one be a better choice? The car is stock and rarely, if ever, gets driven hard.
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open24hours posted:My mum has an '03 Forester (non turbo) that will need a new clutch in a few thousand km, should I advise her to get a new stock clutch or would an aftermarket one be a better choice? I went with an aftermarket Exedy OEM replacement. Was cheaper than the stock clutch from Subaru. Amazingly, amazon.com had the best price. http://www.amazon.com/EXEDY-KSB04-OEM-Replacement-Clutch/dp/B001B5EMS4/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1284726718&sr=1-1 c355n4 fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Sep 17, 2010 |
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Cat Terrist posted:
Part of the reason is distribution. Most of the Midwest is at a much higher altitude and so the octane is bumped downward to match the lower air density. Cars with forced induction can, of course, compensate for altitude but they are few and far enough between that they aren't taken into account. The other is environmental regulations. MTBE, the octane enhancer, has been phased out in CA (and I believe NY) due to environmental concerns so 93 was bumped down to 91 as a result. It likely won't be long until other states follow.
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open24hours posted:My mum has an '03 Forester (non turbo) that will need a new clutch in a few thousand km, should I advise her to get a new stock clutch or would an aftermarket one be a better choice? That said, the Forester clutch is already quite a bit of effort to work if I remember correctly - I've seen guys swap in whatever parts the Impreza has in order to make it easier to work.
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The organic clutches from Exedy are Stage 1 replacement parts. :x He should be fine with the normal Exedy OEM Replacement part.
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Aren't the stock clutches already Exedy in subaru?
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In that case, it might all be in my head that it's heavier than a stock 06 - but the clutch in my 06 is seriously heavier than a Chevy S-15, and it is aftermarket, installed by the previous owner.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:In that case, it might all be in my head that it's heavier than a stock 06 - but the clutch in my 06 is seriously heavier than a Chevy S-15, and it is aftermarket, installed by the previous owner. First thing that happens whenever I try to drive a manual transmission that isn't a subaru is I end up putting my foot through the floor.
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bull3964 posted:First thing that happens whenever I try to drive a manual transmission that isn't a subaru is I end up putting my foot through the floor. My Mini's clutch was way heavier than my GC8's is.
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jamal posted:I think I can see a turbo spooling up there...
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When I was trying to figure out if there was something wrong with my STi, I ran the gas to empty and then some. Worked the pump more than what was good to dump the rest of the gas until only race amounts of gas was left and then poured in 5 gallons of MS100 Unleaded race gas (100 Octane). I reset the ecu and then drove around for 40 miles. No noticable difference. I'd like to give a non-North-American market STi a spin to see what a non-horrible factory map is like. I think the NA market maps are simply built by retards. Running on the stage 2 AccessPort map, my fuel MPG went up on top of putting 280 to the wheels.
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Non-US ecus don't even like to run on our 93 from what I've heard.bull3964 posted:Aren't the stock clutches already Exedy in subaru? They make an OEM replacement exedy, stage 1, and stage 1 HD. I think the only difference is the clamp load. Oh, and try a 2010+ sti. I think they must have changed the MC because I couldn't believe how light the clutch is now.
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jamal posted:Non-US ecus don't even like to run on our 93 from what I've heard. If 98 RON is premium elsewhere, 93 MON+RON/2 is like 97.5 RON. edit: On the case of gas, if I have 93 available there's no reason not to look for a tune or Accessport correct? hallebarrysoetoro fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Sep 17, 2010 |
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ssjonizuka posted:I know the VF46 (which is stock on mine) has slightly different flow curves due to the housing, and I already have a catless UP stock. So maybe I just go with the TMIC, DP and tune. Then if the turbo does go, I can do the upgrade down the line. It would be cheaper short term. Yeah I am in MA, I have heard EFI was good, Mike from TDC was the guy who initially tuned my car. I would recommend DSG for tuning needs, they were awesome when I had my LGT and WRX, and everyone else seems to love them too. That was my plan too, push the stock snail as far as I could go, and replace it when/if it blows. Also, might want to pull the screens in the banjo bolts on the oil lines while you are at it for some peace of mind.
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Syd posted:If 98 RON is premium elsewhere, 93 MON+RON/2 is like 97.5 RON. If you don't have 93 available, it's an even better reason to look into getting a tune. A properly tuned ECU for lovely CA gas will protect the motor from detonation and popping.
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jamal posted:Non-US ecus don't even like to run on our 93 from what I've heard. It's also the case with other JDM imports - some (like Skylines) are a little more robust, but the majority of them get finicky and pull timing until they basically feel like American-made 15-year-old cars.
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I just spent a few minutes reviewing the first 10 pages or so of the thread, what a long strange trip it's been. Now onto the issue, I got some clunk in my trunk. I see the Tiens and something else are poo poo struts, so, where do I get some new Tonka like struts for my 04 STis sweet sweet rear end?
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burtonos posted:I just spent a few minutes reviewing the first 10 pages or so of the thread, what a long strange trip it's been. http://turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_9_11_259_42_132_1066&products_id=544 Right there. $600
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Excellent, I shall order them post-haste!
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Man, those are cheaper than Koni Yellow inserts. I think a few guys in the club have them, I should bug them and see what their single adjustables are like for ride quality. Also, I know amandyke asked about this earlier, but I didn't see any replies - are there any firmer springs that keep the car pretty close to the stock height? I'm considering reinstalling my stock springs so I can have an extra 22mm to clear snow, but it would be ideal if I could put in some stiffer ones while I'm at it. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Sep 17, 2010 |
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Has anyone heard anything about 2011 WRX aftermarket exhausts? I'm about to order mine and am sitting on the fence between the SPT and rolling the dice that a better aftermarket model will be available by the time I take delivery in 4-7 weeks. I'm not sure that the SPT is that much of a performance gain for the price vs. most aftermarket ones, but I'm also worrying about being one of the pioneers that gets an aftermarket one that fits like poo poo and burns down my car in 2 months. I called my local shops and they were all kind of clueless on the subject.
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If it's anything like the 2010 WRX, the SPT exhaust will get you practically NO performance gains (maybe a tiny bit more down-low power, but it's very hard to tell), but sounds WAY better. I LOVE how my SPT exhaust sounds, but the car doesn't really feel any faster. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SPT exhaust is just a cat-back exhaust, and I don't think ANY cat-backs provide performance gain. I think you need to change out the downpipe or cats to actually get any gain (which usually requires a new cat-back as well). However, just swapping out the cat-back isn't really going to gain you any power... just noise. 
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I'm going full catless as well. I mainly am concerned because I'm going straight from the dealership on delivery to my local shop for a tune. I want to have the full exhaust picked out one way or the other so I don't have to keep spending money on tuning it over and over. I'm going to be budgeting around ~2500 to do this. Accessport, up pipe, Turboback exhaust. Edit: I suppose I should've mentioned that in the first place but I guess I have now! Edit^2: A salesman is claiming all the 08+ Exhaust is confirmed to fit without issues on the 2011's. Can anyone else confirm this for me? I've done business with the guy before and he's been legit but he's suggesting a full Invidia setup and I have this strange notion in my head about that brand not really being a quality choice. Bob Log fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Sep 17, 2010 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Man, those are cheaper than Koni Yellow inserts. I think a few guys in the club have them, I should bug them and see what their single adjustables are like for ride quality. d-specs are good but I would rather have the konis. racecomp black springs are stiff and don't lower much. they make wagon and sedan versions and you need STI struts or better.
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Bob Log posted:I'm going full catless as well. I mainly am concerned because I'm going straight from the dealership on delivery to my local shop for a tune. I want to have the full exhaust picked out one way or the other so I don't have to keep spending money on tuning it over and over. I'm going to be budgeting around ~2500 to do this. skip the up-pipe and get an intake instead (also we have them in stock). There shouldn't be any change on exhaust fitment for the 2011 wrx and Invidia exhausts seem to be pretty nice. We make downpipes for everything but the only catback we have is for the sti hatch.
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I just threw a set of 215-65/16 Geolandar ATS' on my Forester. When I get back from my trip I'm gonna throw on a 1" strut lift and finally have what Subaru should have built in the first place for a proper dual use car.  
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Bob Log posted:Edit^2: A salesman is claiming all the 08+ Exhaust is confirmed to fit without issues on the 2011's. Can anyone else confirm this for me? I've done business with the guy before and he's been legit but he's suggesting a full Invidia setup and I have this strange notion in my head about that brand not really being a quality choice. From what I can see on YouTube it also sounds pretty nice without being too loud. I'm also considering a Maddad setup since a bunch of guys in the club have them and they sound just right to my ears.
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bull3964 posted:In western PA, the grades are nearly always 87, 89, 93. Occasionally, you'll see 92 instead of 93. Yeah gently caress Sheetz and their "Super 92." They offer 87, 89, and 92... it was like "Well we don't want to do 91 and 93, so let's compromise!"
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