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Foyes36: Oct 23, 2005; Food fight!

AKA Pseudonym posted:

The biggest consequence would be people not trusting the US to pay as much as they did and requiring a better payout before they start buying its debt again. Well OK, there would be some major economic efects as well, but it's not like the Chinese get to move into the Whitehouse or somethnig.

So basically interest rates would go up on US Treasury bonds? I've always read that inflation would eventually kill the real value of the debt off, which doesn't seem like a great solution but the one that will probably eventually happen.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 12:43

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# ? May 14, 2024 19:37

BonoMan: Feb 20, 2002; Jade Ear Joe

Got this one on Facebook.

quote:

Pictured is a young physician by the name of Dr. Roger Starner Jones. His short two-paragraph letter to the White House accurately puts the blame on a "Culture Crisis" instead of a "Health Care Crisis"..

It's worth a quick read:

Dear Mr. President:
During my shift in the Emergency Room last night, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient whose smile revealed an expensive shiny gold tooth, whose body was adorned with a wide assortment of elaborate and costly tattoos, who wore a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and who chatted on a new cellular telephone equipped with a popular R&B ringtone.

While glancing over her patient chart, I happened to notice that her payer status was listed as "Medicaid"! During my examination of her, the patient informed me that she smokes more than one pack of cigarettes every day, eats only at fast-food take-outs, and somehow still has money to buy pretzels and beer. And, you and our Congress expect me to pay for this woman's health care? I contend that our nation's "health care crisis" is not the result of a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses. Rather, it is the result of a "crisis of culture" a culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on luxuries and vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance. It is a culture based in the irresponsible credo that "I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me". Once you fix this "culture crisis" that rewards irresponsibility and dependency, you'll be amazed at how quickly our nation's health care difficulties will disappear.

Respectfully,
ROGER STARNER JONES, MD
If you agree...pass it on.

To which I replied "This is obviously racist." And hooboy that brought 'em out of the woodwork.

quote:

I can absolutely guarantee that people of all races share the same characteristics of the patient he describes. In YOUR opinion it "seems to suggest". He's referring to the culture as a whole. Your comment made it about race.. not his letter.

and

quote:

FACTUALLY, the whole story NEVER states what race the referred to person is so how can you take it as a "racist" or as they're talking about "black people?" All nationalities have tattoos, gold teeth and all of the described characteristics by the writer, as Missy has said. Nobody will ever know what race the person is so I don't think that comment is appropriate at the given time.

and

quote:

I didn�t see where he said blacks were responsible for the national health care crises but kudos for immediately jumping to that conclusion. You don�t agree with him, so he must be a racist. That�s my favorite liberal debate technique.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 15:08

Revdomezehis: Jul 26, 2003; OMG a Moose!

Yeah gosh, he didn't say the words black, African American or friend of the family, he just implied that this certain group listens to "ethnic" music and eats fried chicken and watermelon, how can you possibly take that to mean they are racist?!

Also I love the typical "I don't personally think it's racist (as a probably white person) so therefore it obviously is not" defense.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 15:49

PerniciousKnid: Sep 13, 2006

BonoMan posted:

Got this one on Facebook.

Oh hey. I just heard about this one second-hand from a friend saying he had to un-friend somebody for their racist Facebook update. Now I know what he's talking about.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 15:54

Push El Burrito: May 9, 2006; Soiled Meat

Doomclown posted:

Oh hey. I just heard about this one second-hand from a friend saying he had to un-friend somebody for their racist Facebook update. Now I know what he's talking about.

I argued with someone over whether that e-mail was racist or not as well. He kept telling me "white kids buy expensive sneakers too!" and after a while it was against my best interests to respond to him.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 15:59

Taerkar: Dec 7, 2002; kind of into it, really

I wonder how many 'expensive' things I could buy for the cost of one hospital visit to the ER.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 16:10

How are u: May 19, 2005; by Azathoth

Oh, funny, an acquaintance on facebook posted that same Dr Roger Starner Jones letter and I jumped in unable to resist. After some back and forth I got her to tentatively agree that social safety nets are a good thing and therefore the dialog is better served by talking about how to make the system smarter and more efficient rather than just rail angrily against those that game it.

But she still believes completely in the Welfare Queen and nothing I say will ever change that.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 16:18

BonoMan: Feb 20, 2002; Jade Ear Joe

Turns out that it was an actual letter written to the Clarion Ledger here in Mississippi.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 16:21

PerniciousKnid: Sep 13, 2006

How are u posted:

Oh, funny, an acquaintance on facebook posted that same Dr Roger Starner Jones letter and I jumped in unable to resist. After some back and forth I got her to tentatively agree that social safety nets are a good thing and therefore the dialog is better served by talking about how to make the system smarter and more efficient rather than just rail angrily against those that game it.

But she still believes completely in the Welfare Queen and nothing I say will ever change that.

This happens to me a lot; nobody seems to think it's a bad idea for welfare and the like to exist and everyone wants the government to invest in infrastructure, and nobody wants to cut taxes if it results in a deficit. But Democrats are still evil for some reason.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 16:42

York_M_Chan: Sep 11, 2003

Funny that. My father, a republican but also an oncologist, just started practicing in a rather poor section of Michigan after practicing in an affluent suburb of Chicago for 30 years. He said that he is shocked about how amazing the poor African-Americans handle their bouts with cancer. They are respectful, change their lifestyles, and "just want to go back to work" - they do their chemo and radiation without a complaint. Quite unlike the some of the suburbanites who are just aching for you to save their life so they can sue you.

I sat next to a man on a 2 hour plane ride who talked the ENTIRE time. He literally said to me, "You don't know anything. I do... I get the e-mails." I immediately thought of this thread as he went on about Obama's communism, Obama's vacation days, Obama's Muslim religion, Ayers writing the books. He was so loving angry. He blamed all his problems on the democrats, his FIVE failed business on his partners, the lien his wife has on their home due to her credit card debts on the government (somehow), how he could have ran the Ford company but he doesn't "Play the game", how he knows hit men who would kill people for him for free, he could have been a major league ball player but he had a wife and knew his responsibility. The blacks are more racist than whites because they can say people are being racist. Sorry, I had to get that out, I have been tense for days from his anger.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 17:17

Good Citizen: Aug 12, 2008; trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

York_M_Chan posted:

Funny that. My father, a republican but also an oncologist, just started practicing in a rather poor section of Michigan after practicing in an affluent suburb of Chicago for 30 years. He said that he is shocked about how amazing the poor African-Americans handle their bouts with cancer. They are respectful, change their lifestyles, and "just want to go back to work" - they do their chemo and radiation without a complaint. Quite unlike the some of the suburbanites who are just aching for you to save their life so they can sue you.

I sat next to a man on a 2 hour plane ride who talked the ENTIRE time. He literally said to me, "You don't know anything. I do... I get the e-mails." I immediately thought of this thread as he went on about Obama's communism, Obama's vacation days, Obama's Muslim religion, Ayers writing the books. He was so loving angry. He blamed all his problems on the democrats, his FIVE failed business on his partners, the lien his wife has on their home due to her credit card debts on the government (somehow), how he could have ran the Ford company but he doesn't "Play the game", how he knows hit men who would kill people for him for free, he could have been a major league ball player but he had a wife and knew his responsibility. The blacks are more racist than whites because they can say people are being racist. Sorry, I had to get that out, I have been tense for days from his anger.

I hardly have the patience to talk to normal people on a plane ride. Why wouldn't you just pop in head phones or tell him to shut up?

# ? Sep 17, 2010 17:23

Notahippie: Feb 4, 2003; Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

York_M_Chan posted:

I sat next to a man on a 2 hour plane ride who talked the ENTIRE time. He literally said to me, "You don't know anything. I do... I get the e-mails." I immediately thought of this thread as he went on about Obama's communism, Obama's vacation days, Obama's Muslim religion, Ayers writing the books. He was so loving angry. He blamed all his problems on the democrats, his FIVE failed business on his partners, the lien his wife has on their home due to her credit card debts on the government (somehow), how he could have ran the Ford company but he doesn't "Play the game", how he knows hit men who would kill people for him for free, he could have been a major league ball player but he had a wife and knew his responsibility. The blacks are more racist than whites because they can say people are being racist. Sorry, I had to get that out, I have been tense for days from his anger.

Jesus Christ. That's the terrifying face of middle America right now, rolled up into one guy. People like that scare the hell out of me - they're angry that things aren't going their way but they're not sure how they ended up there. They want to take it out on somebody but they're not really sure who or how.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 17:24

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

I was on the train the other day and one guy said that the "ground zero mosque" was being moved because of what that Gainsville pastor did. I correct him and said no such thing was ever said by any one that could affect the movement of the community center, and they shouldn't have to move it.

I guess through my thick accent people heard "Hitler had the right idea" because that's basically how people looked at me. I live in Massachusetts we should be better than this

# ? Sep 17, 2010 17:27

York_M_Chan: Sep 11, 2003

Good Citizen posted:

I hardly have the patience to talk to normal people on a plane ride. Why wouldn't you just pop in head phones or tell him to shut up?

The weird part is that he didn't talk to me until I put my headphones on, then tapped me on the shoulder and asked me if it was a blackberry. I said, "No, It's just an iPod" to which he responded, "Oh, so you only get e-mails on it then?" Yes, I put headphones on to check me e-mail.

But I am a masochist when it comes to conversations with lunatics.

Edit: I think the anger the Rush and those like him instill in their listeners is insane. My father-in-law puts him on and it is like being scolded for three hours, he just yells into the mic. My father-in-law now has esophageal cancer from all of the acid issues he has, but doesn't see the correlation. No wonder esophageal cancer is the most common cancer among Upper-middle class white males.

York_M_Chan fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Sep 17, 2010

# ? Sep 17, 2010 17:28

Cognac McCarthy: Oct 5, 2008; It's a man's game, but boys will play

MrPhaethon posted:

I actually think it's pretty okay to disagree with your professor if you think they're wrong and have a good case to prove your point. It's an important part of education, as long as it's done politely. It's pretty craven to sneer at someone for challenging "the man in charge of grading your tests."

That's not really the point. The crux of his argument is essentially "everybody knows professors are Democrats", therefore political science is indoctrination class. Given how awfully it's written (and thought-out), there's no reason to believe the quotes he's given are real. Persecution complex leads people to make a lot of poo poo up about how hard they have it.

# ? Sep 17, 2010 19:13

Lansdowne: Dec 28, 2008

Fwd: FW: Lol posted:

Barack Obama got out of the shower and was drying off when he looked
In the mirror and noticed that he was white from the neck to the top of his head.

In a sheer panic and fearing he was turning white all over,
He called his doctor and told him what had happened.
The doctor advised him to come to his office immediately.
After an examination, the doctor mixed a concoction of brown liquid,
Gave it to Barack, and told him to drink it all.

Barack drank the concoction and said,
"That tasted like bullcrap!"

"It was." the doctor replied, "You were a quart low."

Hey guys, did you know black people are merely white people that are full of poo poo?

# ? Sep 18, 2010 03:32

crime fighting hog: Jun 29, 2006; I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

Lansdowne posted:

Hey guys, did you know black people are merely white people that are full of poo poo?

Mormons believe it.

# ? Sep 18, 2010 03:41

the: Jul 18, 2004; by Cowcaster

The fun thing to do is to actually try and engage people on their message.

"So, you claim he's 'full of bull-crap.' What has he said that has given you this opinion?"

"....."

# ? Sep 18, 2010 04:05

Push El Burrito: May 9, 2006; Soiled Meat

the posted:

The fun thing to do is to actually try and engage people on their message.

"So, you claim he's 'full of bull-crap.' What has he said that has given you this opinion?"

"....."

That's easy to answer.

"HEALTH CARE AND STIMULUS! SOCIALISM!"

# ? Sep 18, 2010 04:19

muscles like this!: Jan 17, 2005

BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

# ? Sep 18, 2010 04:35

BonoMan: Feb 20, 2002; Jade Ear Joe

Great now all the doctors in my family are messaging me about my comments on that stupid doctor letter. "You just don't know. You're Ignoring the facts." Blah blah blah. Although the person that originally posted it said she does now see the racial tone of the message and disagrees with it.

# ? Sep 18, 2010 17:30

PerniciousKnid: Sep 13, 2006

Doomclown posted:

Oh hey. I just heard about this one second-hand from a friend saying he had to un-friend somebody for their racist Facebook update. Now I know what he's talking about.

I was wrong; it turns out my friend was the one un-friended when he responded to someone who posted the letter. :v:

# ? Sep 18, 2010 21:59

BonoMan: Feb 20, 2002; Jade Ear Joe

I don't know if there's still an anti-Fox News thread, but I just skipped by there today and saw the headline:

"Is Islamophobia a Media Myth?"

Goddamnit.

# ? Sep 18, 2010 22:38

the yellow dart: Jul 19, 2004; King of rings, armlocks, hugs, and our hearts

BonoMan posted:

I don't know if there's still an anti-Fox News thread, but I just skipped by there today and saw the headline:

"Is Islamophobia a Media Myth?"

Goddamnit.

I felt like this today at the gym. I was rowing and Fox had a segment on "America's Textbooks." I thought to myself, "Good, the process of textbook selection is a problem given that Texas and California almost completely dominate the process and there are a numbe...oh wait he just said we should look out for socialist ideals in textbooks. Dammit."

# ? Sep 19, 2010 12:46

Mordiceius: Nov 10, 2007; If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Ugh. My parents know these e-mails annoy the gently caress out of me.

quote:

This is a very sad story about a bear. Everybody should heed the warning to not feed wildlife because they become dependent and cannot forage for themselves anymore. This is such a tragedy to see what they have done to our country's wildlife!
The photo below captures a disturbing trend that is beginning to affect U.S.wildlife . . . .

Click here for the full 660x612 image.
Animals that were formerly self-sufficient are now showing signs of belonging to the Democratic Party as they have apparently learned to just sit on their rear end and wait for the government to step in and provide for their care and sustenance. This photo is of a Democrat black bear in Montana nicknamed: Bearack Obearma.

# ? Sep 19, 2010 18:27

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

The real crime is that loving pun.

# ? Sep 19, 2010 19:29

Deuce: Jun 18, 2004; Mile High Club

RagnarokAngel posted:

The real crime is that loving pun.

Also, I'm pretty sure they're being racist somehow.

# ? Sep 20, 2010 00:38

JamesJBuffalkill: Sep 14, 2004; A Textbook for an SA Account. I'm Sold!

I would have went with Balack Obearma, what with it being a black bear and all.

# ? Sep 20, 2010 02:36

Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Mordiceius posted:

Ugh. My parents know these e-mails annoy the gently caress out of me.

So black people are animals? Got'cha

# ? Sep 20, 2010 05:17

Seth Pecksniff: May 27, 2004; can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

RagnarokAngel posted:

The real crime is that loving pun.

It's still better than Baquack Obamailure :colbert:

# ? Sep 20, 2010 06:01

Kieselguhr Kid: May 16, 2010; WHY USE ONE WORD WHEN SIX FUCKING PARAGRAPHS WILL DO?

(If this post doesn't passive-aggressively lash out at one of the women in Auspol please send the police to do a welfare check.)

That Obama-bear e-mail seems to be just another 'lazy blacks on welfare' thing. Nothing too complex.

BonoMan posted:

"Is Islamophobia a Media Myth?"

the yellow dart posted:

I felt like this today at the gym. I was rowing and Fox had a segment on "America's Textbooks." I thought to myself, "Good, the process of textbook selection is a problem given that Texas and California almost completely dominate the process and there are a numbe...oh wait he just said we should look out for socialist ideals in textbooks. Dammit."

I wonder if flat contradiction is, psychologically-speaking, more effective than actually engaging with the specifics of some assertion or debate. That 'left wing media' thing seems to be a part of it: If people examine media and come to the conclusion it presents a right-wing narrative, it's better to flatly contradict that and say it's left-wing rather than seemingly-legitimising the debate by asking whether it is actually true that it's right-wing.

# ? Sep 20, 2010 07:18

Econosaurus: Sep 22, 2008; Successfully predicted nine of the last five recessions

That pun is hilarious, what are you guys talking about

# ? Sep 20, 2010 17:48

Huge Liability: Mar 2, 2010

The person who sent this is not Jewish, nor has he ever been to Israel in his life, but he sure wishes that it were more like ancient Rome

quote:

When did it happen?

I didn't notice it happening � and if I had, could I have done anything about it?

It didn't happen overnight, changes such as these never do. One day you wake up, or hear a news item, or read the paper and suddenly it dawns on you; and you ask yourself � when did it happen?

When did Israel become a nation of apologizers? A nation of PR specialists? A nation of "Kapos"? At what point in time did we stop being a nation that carried out retaliatory raids in response to any attack coming out of Jordan or the Gaza strip and become a nation that accepts "a marginal number" of rockets to be shot into our southern towns, without even speaking out. When did operations such as 'Spring of Youth' and 'Wrath of G-d' stop being the normal Israeli response to terror?

At what point in time did we stop being a nation of "follow me", the "101" and the impossible Entebbe raid and become a nation of legal commissions and hearings.

When did it happen that a Jewish synagogue (albeit built without building permits) will be closed and sealed but two mosques built equally without permits are left open for fear of "what will the world say".

When did we go from a country that would outlaw Meir Kahana's political party for being racist, but have our supreme court protect the equally racist and anti-Israel party, 'Balad"?

2,000 years ago a Roman citizen could walk freely anywhere in the known world; safe in the knowledge that no man dare assault him for fear of bringing down the wrath of the mighty empire on himself. Today we are told not to speak in Hebrew when touring in Europe and not to wear any article of clothing which may identify us as Israelis. In the '70s, Carroll O'Connor, as the sitcom character "Archie Bunker", said in one episode of 'all in the family' "� of course no one hassles them Jews (jooz), if they did the entire Israeli air force would bomb the crapola out of them". Archie, my friend, those days are gone� I wonder, when did it happen.

# ? Sep 20, 2010 21:46

Saint Sputnik: Apr 1, 2007; Tyrannosaurs in P-51 Volkswagens!

Man I hope whoever wrote that gets his home bulldozed

# ? Sep 20, 2010 22:33

crime fighting hog: Jun 29, 2006; I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

Huge Liability posted:

The person who sent this is not Jewish, nor has he ever been to Israel in his life, but he sure wishes that it were more like ancient Rome

Should I feel bad about not knowing much of what he's referencing, or is it because I'm 23?

# ? Sep 20, 2010 23:23

Habibi: Dec 8, 2004; We have the capability to make San Jose's first Cup Champion.

The Sharks could be that Champion.

Huge Liability posted:

The person who sent this is not Jewish, nor has he ever been to Israel in his life, but he sure wishes that it were more like ancient Rome

Israel shmisrael, that letter is one long piece of stupidity for what it says about Rome almost more than anything it says about Israel or us Jews.

# ? Sep 20, 2010 23:24

Turnquiet: Oct 24, 2002; My friend is an eloquent speaker.

crime fighting hog posted:

Mormons believe it.

Incorrect, bigot.

I got this as a response to sending out Robert Reich's NYT Piece on why we need a second New Deal to some Glenn Beck worshiping family and friends of family. This response came from an old friend of the family who was an elementary teacher and self-professed intellectual. All his emails are signed "Calling an illegal alien and undocumented worker is equivalent to calling a drug dealer an unlicensed pharmacist." :downs:

Old Man posted:

I hope you will understand that my comments are in no way meant to be negative criticism... that said I have to say what I've been saying to friends and associates for lo these many years: it never ceases to amaze me that those who have never even taken elementary economics courses (macro or and/or micro) or read a basic text are wont to pontificate about what is wrong with the economy, why it isn't providing the same standard of living as it once did, or any other of a myriad of topics about which they have no understanding whatever (I don't know if this applies to you, but more about that later in terms of the Reich article). So much of what they construe to be sound economic analysis proves in the end to be nothing more than emotionally tinged reflections on their perceptions of the morality and justice of particular economic issues. Just as I tweak my computer-illiterate friends with the rejoinder 'did you read the manual?' when they contact me in a panic, when I find myself in conversation with such 'experts' on economic issues, the first thing I ask is 'have you read...' followed by a list that would go on for some time if they didn't stop me. In addition to the aforementioned basic texts (the finest I've found happened to be the best selling university textbook in the field up to the untimely death of its author, Paul Heyne: The Economic Way of Thinking), I naturally begin with The Wealth of Nations, The Fable of the Bees, An Essay on the Principle of Population, The Works and Correspondence of David Ricardo... well, you get the picture.

(By the way, lest you begin to formulate an idea that I am wedded to any one economic school of thought, let me say that though I have gravitated to and found the philosophers of the market liberal -- the latter component of the term having been co-opted by those who ought more properly to be called governmentalists than liberals as anyone who knows anything about the Enlightenment idea from John Locke at least through the English reform movement of the 1830's and beyond would tell you -- tradition, I often find myself at loggerheads with fellow students of the history of economic thought when I express admiration for the writings of modern 'liberal economists' like John Kenneth Galbraith. The term 'economics' has itself become emotionally tinged, and it is very sad that so many fail to realize that economics is fundamentally nothing more than a tool for analysis and a way of looking at how economies of all scales work, and is therefore a neutral and unbiased term; it is only when we add descriptors like 'capitalist' and 'Marxist,' that it becomes fodder for emotional argumentation.)

Where is all this leading? Robert Reich is a very interesting and pleasant man and makes some compelling arguments (many of which turn out to be mere tautologies when subjected to real economic analysis), but to think that the article you forwarded is... "a succinct summation of why we are the way we are, and what we need to do to fix ourselves moving forward" is at best naive. He still advocates a stagnant view of social and economic classes in America (the need to fix blame -- and fix that blame elsewhere -- is not exclusively confined to any particular party or class) and blithely proposes additional credits that we have no real way of funding (I would have supported many of them when there was a way to pay for them). Where is the mention of the crushing debt that will soon rob you, my children, and my grandchildren and bring down our 'economy' in ways that will make 1929 look like a boom? It is long past time to talk about the structure of our economy and ways of reforming it; our economy is the modern equivalent of the Ottoman Empire -- the Sick Man of early 20th century Europe. Our governnment would long ago have ceased to exist if it were a corporation; it has been bankrupt for some time and continues to exist only so long as foreign funding sources continue to throw good money after bad -- and they will surely come to their senses sooner rather than later. The debt is no longer serviceable (I won't even get into the disasters that are Social Security, Medicare and other government programs that you and my children continue to fund but will NEVER benefit from). History tells us many tales about the perils of wildly printing money, but we continue to do it in unprecedented volumes.

I would like nothing more than to be wrong, but you will see all too soon that the 'economic policies' of the past 50-60 years have led us inexorably down the road to ruin. The Robert Reichs of the world are probably very well intentioned people, but you surely know which road is paved with good intentions.

I thought about drafting a major response, but my spirit was weakened by the stupidity. His whole argument lends itself to "these economics books from 2.5 centuries ago say he is wrong, ergo, he is wrong! If you have not read the requisite literature then you are incapable of arguing the point!" :bahgawd:

# ? Sep 20, 2010 23:39

24-7 Urkel Cosplay: Feb 12, 2003

I seriously doubt he's read Adam Smith, considering he was a precursor to Marx and was certainly in favor of wealth redistribution.

# ? Sep 21, 2010 00:32

Hurricane Jesus: May 21, 2007

Chunk posted:

I seriously doubt he's read Adam Smith, considering he was a precursor to Marx and was certainly in favor of wealth redistribution.

Not to mention that there isn't any actual economic analysis there. All he says is

quote:

He still advocates a stagnant view of social and economic classes in America (the need to fix blame -- and fix that blame elsewhere -- is not exclusively confined to any particular party or class) and blithely proposes additional credits that we have no real way of funding (I would have supported many of them when there was a way to pay for them). Where is the mention of the crushing debt that will soon rob you, my children, and my grandchildren and bring down our 'economy' in ways that will make 1929 look like a boom?

-- none of which seems specific to classical economics.

The first two and a half paragraphs are masturbatory bullshit, then there's three lines of DEBT!, then more bullshit.

# ? Sep 21, 2010 03:07

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# ? May 14, 2024 19:37

HELLO THERE: Mar 22, 2010

This is just a reminder that anybody who says "simple economics" with a straight face has absolutely no loving clue what they're talking about; even within the vastly simplified and reality-detached realm of modern economics literature, nonlinear effects should obliterate any sense of "simplicity" a researcher may have had. If somebody is berating you for a lack of "fundamental economics," chances are they took an Econ 101 class in college without paying attention or are just plain stupid as gently caress.

Brownie points to the first person who guesses which paper this is from or which method is used to compute the social optimum.

HELLO THERE fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Sep 21, 2010

# ? Sep 21, 2010 04:53

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