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AxeManiac posted:I wonder if GOG came back and said, "well, we lost our records of what games you had" would any of you be able to list %100 the games you paid for? I don't think I could list them all. I don't have the installers anymore, but I did save all the "special material" for each game I had.
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AxeManiac posted:would any of you be able to list %100 the games you paid for? I actually just sort of assumed everyone downloaded everything and kept them all backed-up. Each game in a folder (subfolders for series) with all included bonus materials downloaded and stored, plus text files noting any handy tweaks or extra instructions I found that made the games run better. (resolution tweaks, etc) That was sort of the point of the DRM-Free thing, wasn't it? Their part is to give me files I can effectively keep around forever, and my part is to keep them around. Or am I just OCD when it comes to file organization?
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Sep 21, 2010 03:44
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Robot Hobo posted:I could tell you the drat file sizes of the bonus wallpapers for any of my GOG games. If you are, I am too (down to the helpful textfiles and 3rd party addons). The DRM-free, client-free model (plus the experimental nature of it all) said to me that the service was placing both the ability and responsibility to backup and archive my stuff.
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Sep 21, 2010 04:02
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How about we just rename the thread to "Good Old Games - Braindead Business Decisions For Marketing Schemes? Yes, please!" Also nthing that Metaboli buying these guys would be the worst thing. They've already cannibalized what was left of GameTap. Granted, GT sort of screwed themselves up before the buyout, who knows how. Maybe TheRedEye can give us some dirt. All I know is that when I got turned on to them, they had a great blog run by the UI designers, and that in their beta community they encouraged outside ideas for improvement (a lot of the tweaks to the stand-alone client came from our input and suggestions). Last time I actively bothered with giving them any kind of promotion they were about to lose their entire Sega and Konami emulated catalogs.
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Sep 21, 2010 04:39
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Tito Smiley posted:How about we just rename the thread to "Good Old Games - Braindead Business Decisions For Marketing Schemes? Yes, please!" You used to run the old Gametap thread when they was still good. After I quited, I still followed the thread, but I noticed the site getting worst and worst.
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Sep 21, 2010 04:41
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AxeManiac posted:I wonder if GOG came back and said, "well, we lost our records of what games you had" would any of you be able to list %100 the games you paid for? I don't think I could list them all. Just a handful of them, I already owned all the games in CD/floppy form 'cause I'm not a scrub  .
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Sep 21, 2010 04:43
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Robot Hobo posted:I could tell you the drat file sizes of the bonus wallpapers for any of my GOG games. I'm sure as hell not, I thought part of what I was paying for was the convenience to redownload games whenever I wanted.
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Sep 21, 2010 04:49
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Honestly when I buy something from a DD service I'm not buying the game, I'm buying the ability to redownload a legal copy of it anytime at will. People put trust into GoG and they basically just said "gently caress you". Not to say I wouldn't continue buying stuff there every once in a while if they came back (and still had my games).
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Sep 21, 2010 04:51
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Last week I had a few extra bucks kicking around and I went over to GOG and I had a hard time choosing between Master of Magic and Master of Orion 2 and said okay, I'll get MoM and play it now and wait until next week when I have a few more extra bucks kicking around for MoO2 and now it's next week and my few extra bucks are kicking around and GOG is dead and and and and well poo poo. At least I have my invisible flying warships 
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Sep 21, 2010 04:52
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r2x posted:Honestly when I buy something from a DD service I'm not buying the game, I'm buying the ability to redownload a legal copy of it anytime at will. That's how I thought about it. I feel like a dumbass for it now. Discount Viscount posted:Stuart Campbell That dude is a tremendous prick.
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Sep 21, 2010 04:58
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r2x posted:Honestly when I buy something from a DD service I'm not buying the game, I'm buying the ability to redownload a legal copy of it anytime at will. People put trust into GoG and they basically just said "gently caress you". Not to say I wouldn't continue buying stuff there every once in a while if they came back (and still had my games). No, they said "Sorry, we had to take down the site due to business and tech reasons ( ie we had no say in the matter, and had to do it on the fly ), we are currently trying to figure out what the future of GoG is, and we promise you will get your games back on Thursday" And then the internet exploded with rage over the fact they can't download their games RIGHT NOW, even though 90% of these people wouldn't have downloaded anything between today and Thursday anyway. Oh, also some random guy on a forum mentioned its probably a PR stunt, and suddenly everyone is saying its a PR stunt, SHAME ON YOU CDPROJECKT, despite the fact CDProjeckt has said nothing of the sort, and pretty much all signs point to either merge or never coming back. Someone said people are acting like entitled little brats about this issue. I wouldn't go that far because you did buy the games, and not being able to have something you own does suck. But dear god, the amount of rage at them is getting silly. Chances are they had absolutely no choices in the matter, and just got told to shut it all down. Yelling at them is not going to fix anything, at all, and is probably just making their days alot worse, which is a dick move as they probably all just got sacked, and the next few days will be them trying to set everything up so you can get your crap back before going back to trying to find jobs. I mean, no offense, if Valve suddenly popped up and said they'd be bringing down the servers for a week, then an hour later turned everything off, would you all be this up in arms? Its basically the exact same thing here, actually, in this case if you have the installer you can still download most of your games, wheras with Steam you'd be stuck with whatever you had installed at the time. Cue 20 people telling me I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
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Sep 21, 2010 06:12
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Rookersh posted:No, they said "Sorry, we had to take down the site due to business and tech reasons ( ie we had no say in the matter, and had to do it on the fly ), we are currently trying to figure out what the future of GoG is, and we promise you will get your games back on Thursday"
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Sep 21, 2010 06:25
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r2x posted:I don't give a poo poo if I can download my games over the course of the week. I guess it was naive to figure a service would be alive for a long time, especially one that seemed (from the front) to be running smooth. It teaches me to not buy from any place except steam, or real copies. Good luck getting your "real copies" to work six years down the line like a GOG installer would, bro.
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Sep 21, 2010 06:32
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I think a primary complaint that I can totally understand is that their site should not have gone down without warning, regardless of whether it's going back up or not.
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Sep 21, 2010 06:32
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The problem isn't that they pulled their site down. The problem is, they've established themselves as being incredibly consumer friendly and upfront about everything before this. When the Codemasters racing games were removed, we got plenty of advance warning. It's difficult to understand why they handled it (whatever it is) this way, and they still haven't really provided sufficient explanation so as to save face. Probably after Wednesday, I dunno.
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Sep 21, 2010 06:38
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What if computers stopped working, like they made new ones that ran on plants or monkey brains. loving GOG, didn't think of that, did they. I'm sure steam would work on my biometric computer pod.
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Sep 21, 2010 06:39
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Man I'm really glad I'm one of the 3 people who actually downloaded the games he payed for and am totally unaffected by this apocalyptic situation.
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Sep 21, 2010 06:48
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flamedrake posted:Good luck getting your "real copies" to work six years down the line like a GOG installer would, bro. r2x fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Sep 21, 2010 |
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Sep 21, 2010 06:49
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Tito Smiley posted:The problem isn't that they pulled their site down. They'll explain it. You may not be happy with the explanation, but they will. Everyone will get access to everything they paid for, and beyond that, it will depend on the specifics. They don't really need to save face until we know exactly why they did this.
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Rookersh posted:You're overlooking something. GoG posted:We've debated on it for quite some time and, unfortunately, we've decided From this sentence alone it seemed like it was a long-term thing, with options available to them; not a "you have to do this now or else!" thing. Also, it wasn't random guys on forums posting that gave rise to the possibility of a marketing stunt. It was Good Old Games spokesman Tom Ohle talking to the tech news site Kotaku. Seriously, do some sleuthing before you start laying down walls of text. Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Sep 21, 2010 |
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Sep 21, 2010 08:20
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Tito Smiley posted:The problem isn't that they pulled their site down. You know what's the best part about the whole Codemasters thing? As long as you had already bought them, they never actually got removed from your game shelf, even after their hosting license expired. People mostly seemed to have adopted a don't ask/don't tell stance on it.  Of course, given the state of things now, I kind of doubt they'll show back up for download along with everything else... At least I had enough brain cells to back those up.
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Mithaldu posted:From this sentence alone it seemed like it was a long-term thing, with options available to them; not a "you have to do this now or else!" thing. But we don't know, there may very well be some legal or business reason for them not giving any warning, and I'm content with waiting to hear their argument as to why rather than flipping my poo poo based on assumptions. MonkeyforaHead posted:You know what's the best part about the whole Codemasters thing? As long as you had already bought them, they never actually got removed from your game shelf, even after their hosting license expired. People mostly seemed to have adopted a don't ask/don't tell stance on it. Games removed from Steam are like that as well, did they ever explicitly say they were removing them from your library as well? I would assume their contract running out just means they can no longer sell new copies.
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Mr.Hotkeys posted:there may very well be some legal or business reason for them not giving any warning
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Mr.Hotkeys posted:Games removed from Steam are like that as well, did they ever explicitly say they were removing them from your library as well? I would assume their contract running out just means they can no longer sell new copies. Part of the license expiry for those two games stipulated that not only were they no longer allowed to be sold past a certain date, but about two weeks following the termination of sales, they were also to be removed from any and all digital download servers. Don't think anything quite like that has befallen a Steam release yet.
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Ive got a theory. What if they never had the license agreements to sell any of these games and were using some weird polish law to get away with it for a long time? 
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MonkeyforaHead posted:Part of the license expiry for those two games stipulated that not only were they no longer allowed to be sold past a certain date, but about two weeks following the termination of sales, they were also to be removed from any and all digital download servers. Must have just been sticking it to the man, then. Those silly Poles. Mithaldu posted:Wrong. They warned investors on a public forum as well as talked to several blogs directly. All they said was "don't worry" and "wait until Wednesday for more info". They never said the site was going down, that the service was returning, or anything specific ahead of time. And they did pretty much say that GoG would be back in some capacity quote:...we've decided that GOG.com simply cannot remain in its current form... And then when everyone wasn't sure of what that meant, either by the meaning being lost in translation or just because you lot are downright dumb, they clarified. That would be the "talking to several blogs directly part", which, as a reminder, happened after the fact as well and really revealed nothing new. The proper thing to do is wait until they put up their defense. Considering no matter what they say, nothing will really change our lives, I'm willing to give them a week to get their poo poo together. If their excuse is appropriate I will be willing to forgive them. Otherwise I too will bust out my pitchfork. I think the spelling errors on the main page now as opposed to the pristine appearance it used to boast speaks a great deal of what is probably going on in their offices at the moment.
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Wow, I admit i jumped to some conclusions there after gathering information and carefully thinking about everything they let people know. You however seem to like to treat the whole jumping thing as an olympic event (including time shenanigans). Also, you need to learn to read more carefully. Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Sep 21, 2010 |
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Mithaldu posted:Wow, I admit i jumped to some conclusions there after gathering information and carefully thinking about everything they let people know. You however seem to like to treat the whole jumping thing as an olympic event (including time shenanigans). So wait. You pulled that they are doing this as a PR stunt, are secretly planning to hatefully deprive you of your entertainment forever, planned this out weeks in advance, and god knows what else from the statement "We've debated on it for quite some time and, unfortunately, we've decided" yet when everyone else points out all the other stuff they've said, suddenly we are jumping to conclusions, and need to read more carefully? Chill down, you'll get your games back on Thursday. Don't shoot the messenger before you know why he was late in the first place, or however that phrase goes. So far it looks like they have no idea whats going on themselves, and are basically trying to settle everything down, kicking them while their down won't get you your games any faster, and we will see what happened on Thursday. If Thursday rolls around, and they pull some bullshit "IT WAS A JOKE HA HA" bullshit, then yeah, get your pitchfork. But if its not, which is looking like the safe bet right now, you'll look like an idiot who overacted in the worst way possible. Just saying.
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Rookersh posted:So wait. It's really not very professional for a business website to go down without warning and stay down for this long, so as I said I can certainly understand why people are disappointed with GOG regardless of when they may be "getting their games back".
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Rookersh posted:You pulled that And i don't consider myself as paying for the games, i have those already and can get those anywhere anytime i want. I pay them for the service of making them available to me without me needing to fiddle with physical copies or torrents or my own backup solution. And this is the crux for me: I still do not know whether that will be gone or not. The part where i talked about the spokesman was merely to explain to you that the "PR action" theory was not spawned by random people on random forums. Sorry i didn't split up my post more clearly.
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Rookersh posted:Just saying. It's not "kicking them while they're down" to say that you won't give them your business anymore. I'm not angry or insulted, I just don't have any faith that this company will have the kind of perpetuity that I was expecting in a download service.
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Xythar posted:It's really not very professional for a business website to go down without warning and stay down for this long, so as I said I can certainly understand why people are disappointed with GOG regardless of when they may be "getting their games back". They are shutting down. Do you think "being professional" matters at this point? Quit bitching and be patient.
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dnz posted:They are shutting down. Do you think "being professional" matters at this point? Yes, actually.
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I think GOG accidentally put a YouTube video up earlier than they should've and some guy capped it. gnomeslair on Twitter said "There's a weird new private (!) video on the GOG.com YouTube channel. Something about 40 publishers..." A conversation on GOGcom's YouTube profile: GOGcom (12 minutes ago) Spam @DooMDrat it will be visible here soon. DooMDrat (16 minutes ago) Spam I took a screenshot of that little hint in the video you removed, FYI. The image he screenshotted: 
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Blodskur posted:The image he screenshotted: ALL IS FORGIVEN!
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Haha, like half the people who have sworn off gog will now renege on that if they seriously have got Bioware
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Whalley posted:Haha, like half the people who have sworn off gog will now renege on that if they seriously have got Bioware Yeah gently caress rage, when they come back I'll just be a bit more careful about keeping my installers.
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Sep 21, 2010 13:59
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Blodskur posted:I want to believe. 
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I don't see what the big deal is about BG, though. You can get it new directly from Amazon, and as far as I know the games work fine on modern operating systems. It's good to see it being on DD, of course.
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