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Ansob. posted:It exists on basically every version of amazon, and it's also easily available in most large game retailers. How do Brazilians usually buy their video games? In small stores and supermarkets, the selection is very limited and the prices are high. Thats why digital distribution is a bless for us.
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Magellanicice9 posted:Yeah, I can honestly say I have no clue what the hell is going on.
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Nagual posted:Incidentally, the European prices (and Steam prices in general) are entirely publisher set, it's not like Valve decides at what price to sell a game (apart from their own ones of course). Yeah I know, and I'm concerned that it could lead to the publishers demanding more money from Europeans for the gog range if they merge. However I would still like the option of picking up really old games, modified so that they work on modern systems over nothing at all, thats all I'm saying, you're the one that thinks steam controlling gog would be a bad thing, I was just pointing out that I have some reservations as-well. It's all bullshit at the moment anyway, since we have no idea what the hell is happening. I think gog has been bought out by Richard Garriot, and soon the only game you'll be able to buy is a remake of Tabula Rasa made in flash, end game content is boarding a shuttle and flying up into space in an attempt save the container with Gene Roddenberry's ashes from burning up in the atmosphere, but Beware the EA monster and his sidekick NCsoft, he'll gobble you up and drain your idea's!
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Sep 21, 2010 16:04
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Zat posted:drat Poles, stop being so vague! Refusing to let hitler re-download his games is how World War 2 started.
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Sep 21, 2010 16:15
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dflanny posted:Holy poo poo. I already have all these games anyway, but installing 5 CD games isn't fun. If this is real, and not some elaborate troll, it could open the floodgates...
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Sep 21, 2010 16:34
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Does anybody happen to know how many publishers they had before they went down? Edit: You know, that video kind of calmed my fears. I think everything is going to be ok, and I'm already starting to think this is going to be remembered as pretty funny. Farquar fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Sep 21, 2010 |
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Sep 21, 2010 16:40
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Farquar posted:Edit: You know, that video kind of calmed my fears. I think everything is going to be ok, and I'm already starting to think this is going to be remembered as pretty funny. It's been a fun ride. I think I've spent more time in this thread than I have playing my 30 games on their site (  )
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Sep 21, 2010 16:46
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Mr.Hotkeys posted:It's been a fun ride. I think I've spent more time in this thread than I have playing my 30 games on their site ( Truth. Also made me all excited to buy more games I will possibly never play. Oh well.
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Sep 21, 2010 16:47
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And so the Five Stages have come to terminus and we have beautiful Acceptance.
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Sep 21, 2010 16:49
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Overwined posted:And so the Five Stages have come to terminus and we have beautiful Acceptance. GoG be praised!
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Sep 21, 2010 16:49
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Seems pretty obvious they're going to rename their service under some new ownership. Hope it isn't activision, but whatever gets me some Baldur's Gate vOv
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Sep 21, 2010 16:50
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I'm pretty sure this means they will relaunch potentially under a new banner. However, based what their twitter/their current page I can guess there will be changes. My guess if they had a huge list of games that would only release with DRM, and they finally decided to pull the trigger and go that way.
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Lockback posted:I'm pretty sure this means they will relaunch potentially under a new banner. However, based what their twitter/their current page I can guess there will be changes. My guess if they had a huge list of games that would only release with DRM, and they finally decided to pull the trigger and go that way. If they're introducing something called "GOGMixes," then maybe they're keeping the name.
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Sep 21, 2010 17:05
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Nagual posted:Incidentally, the European prices (and Steam prices in general) are entirely publisher set, it's not like Valve decides at what price to sell a game (apart from their own ones of course). They own the loving store. Of course Valve has control over the prices.
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Sep 21, 2010 17:08
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DatonKallandor posted:They own the loving store. Of course Valve has control over the prices. No, they don't. Valve can only price games that THEY publish. It's why Activisions stuff is about twice the US price in Europe - they jack up EU prices simply because they can. Goon-published RPG/shop-sim Recettear, on the other hand, has perfectly calculated international prices, because the guys publishing it went and spent the ten minutes to do the math so they wouldn't screw over global audiences.
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Sep 21, 2010 17:09
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Well yes, we know they negotiate the prices with the publisher, but obviously Valve has final say. I remember them rejecting Bionic Commando Rearmed because Capcom wanted to charge more (I think $5) for the PC version than was being charged on consoles. Eventually it did come out, but it's at the $10 price now.
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Sep 21, 2010 17:11
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DatonKallandor posted:They own the loving store. Of course Valve has control over the prices. This isn't a brick and mortar store where Valve buys x copies of a game and then resells them at a higher price. Think of Steam more like eBay, except the auctioneers are the publishers and everything is Buy It Now. Valve gets a cut for each transaction but ultimately the publishers decide what goes on Steam (so long as it meets their quality standards, which games like Fort Zombie did not) and at what price it is.
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Sep 21, 2010 17:13
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Mr.Hotkeys posted:This isn't a brick and mortar store where Valve buys x copies of a game and then resells them at a higher price. Think of Steam more like eBay, except the auctioneers are the publishers and everything is Buy It Now. Valve gets a cut for each transaction but ultimately the publishers decide what goes on Steam (so long as it meets their quality standards, which games like Fort Zombie did not) and at what price it is. That doesn't seem completely feasible to me, because that would mean anytime that Steam had a big sale (like Christmas, or the Summer one), that they'd have to get price approval for every single game from every single publisher involved in the sale, which strikes me as a HUGE PITA, so I would imagine that Valve has somewhere buried in the contract that they can adjust the price.
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Sep 21, 2010 17:17
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Funny thing. They actually do have to get approval.
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Sep 21, 2010 17:19
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quakster posted:Funny thing. They actually do have to get approval. loving hell. I'm glad its their business and not mine then. I don't know how any sane person would want to go through THAT minefield.
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Sep 21, 2010 17:21
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macnbc posted:That doesn't seem completely feasible to me, because that would mean anytime that Steam had a big sale (like Christmas, or the Summer one), that they'd have to get price approval for every single game from every single publisher involved in the sale, which strikes me as a HUGE PITA, so I would imagine that Valve has somewhere buried in the contract that they can adjust the price. And/or a lot of pretty graphs showing how sales are boosted by deep short-term discounts.
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Sep 21, 2010 17:21
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It's probably just showing what could have been, then saying goodbye. I don't really get how you guys seem to think it's coming back but hey, if it does I can re-download simon the sorcerer  I liked the service but considering the site just shut down then posted a video that pretty much says "thanks for using us bye" well :|
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Sep 21, 2010 17:24
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Thievery posted:It's probably just showing what could have been, then saying goodbye. I don't really get how you guys seem to think it's coming back but hey, if it does I can re-download simon the sorcerer
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Sep 21, 2010 17:34
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Since this whole kerfuffle started, it's become painfully obvious that people really don't appreciate all the cryptic bullshit. And then they release that video. 
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Sep 21, 2010 17:36
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According to Aaron Connor, one of the creators of the Tex Murphy games: *************************** According to my sources, this is a temporary shut-down that has been scheduled for some time. I'm not privy to what will be changed, but I think GOG will be back better than ever in a few days. AC ************************** That's from the Unofficial Tex Murphy message boards, on which Aaron's posted for years.
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macnbc posted:loving hell. I'm glad its their business and not mine then. I don't know how any sane person would want to go through THAT minefield. Steam sales are actually famous for bringing in massive piles of money. Developers specifically add Steam achievements to games so that they can get on the shortlist for a weekend or other major sale event. In a lot of cases, developers ask Valve if they can do a special discount price run, not the other way round. And back on the topic of Cryptic Bullshit.. I'm sure some guy in marketing thinks he's being really clever. I want to punch that guy. I'd like to redownload Blood and Giants, but can't, because the site is down for this clusterfuck of an event.
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Advertise a sale right before a scheduled shutdown? Doubtful.
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GreenNight posted:Advertise a sale right before a scheduled shutdown? Doubtful. I noticed that over the weekend and thought it was weird, but hadn't put 2 and 2 together until the site "closed." EDIT: So now that we've all had a few days to process this marketing event, I think I'm coming around to it more. This has caused a lot of buzz around the Internet, and while we might think of it as negative press, it'll mellow out with time. Depending on how good the new service is, most people will forget about the anger they felt a few days ago and it'll seem like a funny prank they fell for. If GOG had given a few weeks' notice about a scheduled 4-5 day downtime while they set up the new site, no one would have really cared or spread the word. It still would have been the same core set of buyers. This "sudden site closure" has gotten people who would have never visited the site in the first place talking about GOG. It's a very risky game, and it might just pay off for them. JazzFlight fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Sep 21, 2010 |
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Thievery posted:It's probably just showing what could have been, then saying goodbye. I don't really get how you guys seem to think it's coming back but hey, if it does I can re-download simon the sorcerer I really doubt that. Why would they blatantly tease one of the most requested games and loads of new features in what would amount to little more than a kick to the nuts? Either gog is coming out of beta with Baldurs Gate and who knows what else or they are colossally dumb. Also, the video has way too much polish to be a hastily thrown together goodbye vid. It just screams coming out of beta.
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macnbc posted:loving hell. I'm glad its their business and not mine then. I don't know how any sane person would want to go through THAT minefield. I'm pretty sure there's some intense competition from Publishers to get exclusive sale slots during certain time periods. That's why we've gone from having a weekend deal to having a weekend deal and a midweek deal to having those two and the occasional week long deal. Deciding the sale discount isn't going to be too much of a chore either: virtually all sales are multiples of quarter or thirds off so it's a matter of agreeing which is appropriate.
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Overwined posted:And so the Five Stages have come to terminus and we have beautiful Acceptance. Acceptance of what? Nothing happened. Keep collecting games dudes. (denial)
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Haha, that video confirms this was a stunt then. Bad marketing IMO.
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Doc Hawkins posted:And/or a lot of pretty graphs showing how sales are boosted by deep short-term discounts. I can't find anything on Google, but I remember Valve reducing the price of one of their games (Or perhaps a third party game? I can't remember which game it was.) to something ludicrously low for a weekend, and then reporting 1300% profits compared to the usual income. Which they now obviously show publishers so that they'll get on board with sales.
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AxeManiac posted:Acceptance of what? Nothing happened. Keep collecting games dudes. Gotta catch'em all!
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Centipeed posted:I can't find anything on Google, but I remember Valve reducing the price of one of their games (Or perhaps a third party game? I can't remember which game it was.) to something ludicrously low for a weekend, and then reporting 1300% profits compared to the usual income. I know that Introversion made a public statement that they would have gone bankrupt if it weren't for a Steam sale. also, here is a link to what you were saying. http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/57308
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AxeManiac posted:Acceptance of what? Nothing happened. Keep collecting games dudes. *hands talking pillow* Is there anything you'd like to share with us today, AxeManiac? You don't have to be afraid to speak out, this is a safe place. You are among friends. Just let it all hang out, like Garfield.
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So... New game today? ...or not?
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Amethyst posted:Haha, that video confirms this was a stunt then. Bad marketing IMO. You have to agree that if they do come back with Baldur's Gate or Planetscape Torment that would be the only way to make almost everyone forget and make people worship GoG even more. I have the french Baldur's Gate versions somewhere... maybe back at my parents' house. I hate french games since a good while ago. I would still like an english digital and fully patched version, to replace any shady versions you can find everywhere online illegaly, as I don't really like to buy physical copies online from websites I don't really know (which would be the only option, drat Canada and their lovely Amazon!  ).
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I look forward to Good Old Games' rebirth as OldAndMoreRecentGamesOfVaryingQuality.com
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Personally, I'm not that excited about Baldur's Gate but I understand how much demand there is for it. I would have preferred if they came out with System Shock 1&2.
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