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Centipeed posted:I can't find anything on Google, but I remember Valve reducing the price of one of their games (Or perhaps a third party game? I can't remember which game it was.) to something ludicrously low for a weekend, and then reporting 1300% profits compared to the usual income. 
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Dramicus posted:Personally, I'm not that excited about Baldur's Gate but I understand how much demand there is for it. I would have preferred if they came out with System Shock 1&2. Now this would be sweet. If they sold SS1 complete with the high-res and mouselook mods I'd be down. I'm pretty sure those were made by a goon? How would he feel about that....
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Sep 21, 2010 18:08
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Dramicus posted:Personally, I'm not that excited about Baldur's Gate but I understand how much demand there is for it. I would have preferred if they came out with System Shock 1&2. I'm pretty sure that neither System Shock has David Warner. Unfortunately this means that your opinions are wrong. I'm sorry for your loss.
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Sep 21, 2010 18:11
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At the end of the day, I almost have to thank GoG for reminding me that I never back up anything. If they relaunch with a bunch of Infinity Engine games or similar new product, I would buy more from their site than ever before, I just would make sure I immediately downloaded a copy to my 2nd hard drive at the same time.
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Sep 21, 2010 18:14
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Dramicus posted:I know that Introversion made a public statement that they would have gone bankrupt if it weren't for a Steam sale. It wasn't a Steam sale so much as being on Steam for the preorders for Defcon that allowed them to stay afloat. They got shafted by their old publisher (Strategy First) and were owed around a half million to a million for Uplink sales.
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Sep 21, 2010 18:18
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kuddles posted:At the end of the day, I almost have to thank GoG for reminding me that I never back up anything. If they relaunch with a bunch of Infinity Engine games or similar new product, I would buy more from their site than ever before, I just would make sure I immediately downloaded a copy to my 2nd hard drive at the same time.
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Sep 21, 2010 18:20
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Party Plane Jones posted:It wasn't a Steam sale so much as being on Steam for the preorders for Defcon that allowed them to stay afloat. They got shafted by their old publisher (Strategy First) and were owed around a half million to a million for Uplink sales. That was a while back; they were saved by the latest Christmas Steam sale as well: http://forums.introversion.co.uk/introversion/viewtopic.php?t=2512
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Sep 21, 2010 18:22
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Party Plane Jones posted:It wasn't a Steam sale so much as being on Steam for the preorders for Defcon that allowed them to stay afloat. They got shafted by their old publisher (Strategy First) and were owed around a half million to a million for Uplink sales. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/08/23/how-a-steam-promotion-saved-introversion/ "This was the game-changer. When we started Introversion we’d had a string of successes and believed we were undefeatable, but it was a long time since we’d had a victory and we really needed one. Right on cue, Valve delivered. The promo exceeded all of our expectations and when combined with our low burn rate (no office or staff now) we had gone from being fearful about paying our mortgages to having a year’s operating capital in the bank." What you mentioned was the first instance, the second happened shortly after they released their Xboxlive version of Darwinia which flopped. A steam promotion of Defcon with newly added Steam achievements saved them.
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Sep 21, 2010 18:23
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Oh, I didn't know about the latter incident.
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Sep 21, 2010 18:26
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kuddles posted:At the end of the day, I almost have to thank GoG for reminding me that I never back up anything. If they relaunch with a bunch of Infinity Engine games or similar new product, I would buy more from their site than ever before, I just would make sure I immediately downloaded a copy to my 2nd hard drive at the same time. Well, I will keep not backing then up for a while. I dont have that much space to waste and one of the advantages of a service like this is that it allows you to redownload the game anytime you want, so you wont have to keep disks or backups in you HD.
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Sep 21, 2010 18:55
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To all the people saying they were paying for infinite downloads at any point in the future and not the game, that may be what you WANTED, but that is something no company can guarantee and therefore not what you were paying for. You paid for the game, and being able to download it multiple times was a bonus. Yes, it sucks that they're able to take the downloads down, and it totally makes sense if that stops you from buying from them again, but you did get what you paid for.
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Sep 21, 2010 19:02
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Fuuuuck, did I *just* miss getting the shaft. I re-discovered GOG only last week and bought like five games at once from them. This was a complete shock. Hope they come back.
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Sep 21, 2010 19:12
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Lord_Pigeonbane posted:So... New game today? ...or not? Is this a joke? Or did you skip all of the new posts and didn't realise that GOG.com has been closed pending a possible re-launch?
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Sep 21, 2010 19:13
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:To all the people saying they were paying for infinite downloads at any point in the future and not the game, that may be what you WANTED, but that is something no company can guarantee and therefore not what you were paying for. You paid for the game, and being able to download it multiple times was a bonus. Yes, it sucks that they're able to take the downloads down, and it totally makes sense if that stops you from buying from them again, but you did get what you paid for. Sure. But I expect a store like GOG to at least warn us beforehand that they are going down and give us time to get our stuff. I did trusted GOG, and if that was only I joke, I still trust then. So I will just save me the hassle of downloading all those gigabytes I dont need right now. Centipeed posted:Is this a joke? Or did you skip all of the new posts and didn't realise that GOG.com has been closed pending a possible re-launch? Yes, is a joke.
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Sep 21, 2010 19:22
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Mr.Hotkeys posted:This isn't a brick and mortar store where Valve buys x copies of a game and then resells them at a higher price. Think of Steam more like eBay, except the auctioneers are the publishers and everything is Buy It Now. Valve gets a cut for each transaction but ultimately the publishers decide what goes on Steam (so long as it meets their quality standards, which games like Fort Zombie did not) and at what price it is. At the end of the day Valve still owns it. Which means they have final say. They could very easily tell publishers to gently caress themselves unless they offer a decent price.
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Sep 21, 2010 19:31
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I work in the gaming press and just got an invite to an online press conference with GOG tomorrow - I'll post what I can here after that.
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Sep 21, 2010 19:37
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DatonKallandor posted:At the end of the day Valve still owns it. Which means they have final say. They could very easily tell publishers to gently caress themselves unless they offer a decent price.
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Sep 21, 2010 19:38
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BadAstronaut posted:I work in the gaming press and just got an invite to an online press conference with GOG tomorrow - I'll post what I can here after that. After? Post during goddamnit.
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Sep 21, 2010 19:40
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Sorry, have not been following this page closely - has this vid been posted already? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRvuKjissQ If you look closely right before the GOG logo comes up at the end, you can see Baldur's Gate in there. If this turns out to just be a publicity stunt, well, they've got the publicity, but also pissed a few people off in the process. EDIT: I'm a retard, yes: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3091455&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=139#post382326879 GreenNight posted:After? Post during goddamnit. Heh, I'll see what I can do.
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Sep 21, 2010 19:41
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BadAstronaut posted:Heh, I'll see what I can do. Right on. And yeah the video was posted. Fingers crossed.
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Sep 21, 2010 19:42
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BadAstronaut posted:has this vid been posted already? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRvuKjissQ Yes, and we've been discussing it for 10 or so pages.
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Sep 21, 2010 19:43
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DatonKallandor posted:At the end of the day Valve still owns it. Which means they have final say. They could very easily tell publishers to gently caress themselves unless they offer a decent price. How well is Valve going to do as a business if they tell every major publisher to go gently caress themselves?
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Ansob. posted:Yes, and we've been discussing it for 10 or so pages. Good job posting that after I'd already edited to say I'm a retard. Also, three and a half pages !=10. Been off this forum for a bit, trying to catch up on a lot of pages in this thread. Don't be a dickhead. BadAstronaut fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Sep 21, 2010 |
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Sep 21, 2010 19:44
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DatonKallandor posted:At the end of the day Valve still owns it. Which means they have final say. They could very easily tell publishers to gently caress themselves unless they offer a decent price. Not really, since they basically have Valve by the balls, if Valve say no they wil either jump ship with all their games and sign an exclusive deal with another DD service/service's or create their own one. Its been pretty hard for valve to get the major publishers on their side as it is, I can't really blame them not for saying gently caress you to EA and the like. Having said that, I never buy anything from steam unless its on sale and significantly cheaper than any other online retailer or high street shop. If Steam didn't have sales the only time I would start it up is to run games that have Steam Works DRM.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:How well is Valve going to do as a business if they tell every major publisher to go gently caress themselves? The same way the brick and mortar stores are right now. The numbers clearly say that digital downloads are where the money is. And unless you obey your lord and master the store owner you're out a lot of money. See publishers letting physical retailers gently caress them up the rear end with releases before release dates, lots of leaks and second hand markets. There's no reason for online stores to give that power away when the physical retailers are all too happy to abuse it. Except common decency, and the if the publishers have none, why should the online store.
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Sep 21, 2010 19:50
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Elias_Maluco posted:Well, I will keep not backing then up for a while. Have you looked at external hard drives anytime in the last couple of years? There really is no legimate excuse to not own one, considering the amount of gigs you get for your bucks.
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Sep 21, 2010 20:02
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You can get a 2TB internal + usb dock for like $130 now. It's crazy.
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Mierenneuker posted:Have you looked at external hard drives anytime in the last couple of years? There really is no legimate excuse to not own one, considering the amount of gigs you get for your bucks. You can get eSata and USB hard drive cradles that work with hard drives the way your Sega Genesis used to with cartridges. Glorious things. They even do one that can take two drives and backup one to the other.
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My porn has never been so safe.
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Mierenneuker posted:Have you looked at external hard drives anytime in the last couple of years? There really is no legimate excuse to not own one, considering the amount of gigs you get for your bucks. Dont change the fact Im too lazy for backups.
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Elias_Maluco posted:Dont change the fact Im too lazy for backups. Tough luck if you lose all your data then.
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Sep 21, 2010 20:11
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One single external drive is not a backup solution. It's a joke.
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Mithaldu posted:One single external drive is not a backup solution. It's a joke. All you really need is 1 copy of your data. One on internal and one on external, hopefully offsite. I use dropbox for all documents and monthly isos on an external taken to work.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:To all the people saying they were paying for infinite downloads at any point in the future and not the game, that may be what you WANTED, but that is something no company can guarantee and therefore not what you were paying for. You paid for the game, and being able to download it multiple times was a bonus. Yes, it sucks that they're able to take the downloads down, and it totally makes sense if that stops you from buying from them again, but you did get what you paid for. Sticky this on every future page please.
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I wonder how they'll come back: - with all the old DRM free stuff still DRM free (same as before) - with all the old DRM free stuff now DRM'd (nerd rage rising) - with all the old DRM free stuff still DRM free, but new stuff has DRM (nerd rage abating slightly) - with new select titles having DRM of some sort, but still an active DRM-free section of the store with new DRM-free titles floating in (happiest compromise) It'd be a hell of a thing if they manage to bring forth the Infinity engine games with no DRM, tell you what. doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Sep 21, 2010 |
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.Ataraxia. posted:Now this would be sweet. If they sold SS1 complete with the high-res and mouselook mods I'd be down. I'm pretty sure those were made by a goon? How would he feel about that.... SS1 and 2 (and Planescape Torment) were consistently in the top five requested games before they shut down, so if they come back - well, it's hardly guarateed, but it's not like they don't know people want it. Speaking as the writer of the original highres patch, I'd think it was pretty cool, personally, and while I would appreciate being tossed a free copy of the game I wouldn't be wound up if they didn't. The patch was written to be used, after all. However, I can only speak for myself; the current (and, frankly, far superior) HR+Mouselook+Keybinds patch is written and maintained by Malba Tahan. I don't know if he(?) is a goon.
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GreenNight posted:Tough luck if you lose all your data then. I do backup what is really important (pictures, music, work files, etc). I wont backup something I can download whenever I need.
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doctorfrog posted:It'd be a hell of a thing if they manage to bring forth the Infinity engine games with no DRM, tell you what. Heh, I just bought Icewind Dale II from a second hand store on Thursday. Cost me 3 pounds - all manuals and everything. I now own originals of 'em all, I think. Would be cool to have GOG as a backup option though. Also, doctorfrog, where is your avatar from?
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ToxicFrog posted:Speaking as the writer of the original highres patch, I'd think it was pretty cool, personally, and while I would appreciate being tossed a free copy of the game I wouldn't be wound up if they didn't. The patch was written to be used, after all. You're the one I was talking about! Thanks for your work on the high-res patch, made my first play through of that game a lot better than it would've been!
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BadAstronaut posted:Good job posting that after I'd already edited to say I'm a retard. I wasn't being a dickhead and I posted it before you'd edited your post, so stop being an rear end in a top hat. I gave you a matter-of-factly answer.
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