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JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

Armor-Piercing posted:

It's probably the nostalgia talking (best game ever?), but Baldur's Gate really is still fine to play without BGTutu or widescreen or high-res or whatever packs.

Especially for people new to the series, I don't think you should get the impression that the game is unplayable without installing all of that stuff. Even with regards to the tweak pack, there isn't a single component that I would say you should definitely install.
I would normally agree with that, and I never played the game before this, but it just seems like the viewing window you're given in the game is incredibly claustrophobic. You can only see like 5 feet around you.

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The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Mill Village posted:

745 here. I'm not really sure what the earliest starting day was, though.

Mine is 746.

Davoren
Aug 14, 2003

The devil you say!

doctorfrog posted:

Unless you get hardcore into JA, all you need is 2 + the 1.13 fan patch.

This is from way back but I must ask, I have JA2 from gog and it was really hard, granted I haven't played many games of this type, but I was also playing without the 1.13 patch. Is installing this patch either going to give me a way to have an easier time of things or make it more enjoyable to keep going at it?

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.

Davoren posted:

This is from way back but I must ask, I have JA2 from gog and it was really hard, granted I haven't played many games of this type, but I was also playing without the 1.13 patch. Is installing this patch either going to give me a way to have an easier time of things or make it more enjoyable to keep going at it?

1.13 probably makes the game a bit harder, though it gives you a loving boatload of options which can help mitigate this. Up until recently there were about a billion .cfg files that you had to sift through to mess with these options, but they've implemented really nice .cfg file browser which is totally awesome.

Seriously the mod community for JA2 is one of the best, hands down. I put them in the upper echelon of mod communities along with probably only the the people behind OTTD.

Anyway, you'll probably find a good mix of options on your own and most can be changed without wrecking saves. Before you do anything, though, turn off the Drassen counter-attack which will probably gently caress you with a broomstick if you're having trouble with vanilla. You can turn it on later when you found you've mastered it.

You should also be thinking more about how you play the game. It's a tactical game, so think about tactics. Move slowly and quietly. Utilize cover. Stay low. Leave your dudes looking in the right directions with some AP left over so they can get a possible interrupt. Use explosives tactically. Many times, especially early game, you are going to be outgunned. The overarching rule of playing is find your advantages and utilize them. Bumrushing a guard shack against vastly greater numbers and firepower is suicide. Divide and conquer and try not to wake the sleeping giant.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

JA2 without 1.13 doesn't have suppression activated, does it?

Just install 1.13, it's the result of years of dedicated fanwork and everybody uses it.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Davoren posted:

This is from way back but I must ask, I have JA2 from gog and it was really hard, granted I haven't played many games of this type, but I was also playing without the 1.13 patch. Is installing this patch either going to give me a way to have an easier time of things or make it more enjoyable to keep going at it?

I played JA2 for the first time not too long ago, with 1.13, with only Drassen Counterattack turned off, everything else was default, and it was hard, but not too hard. I try to avoid fanwank as much as possible, so I turned off tons o' guns which apparently just gets ridiculous, so I'd say play on the easier mode with tons o' guns if the defaults are too tough.

And suppression is off by default, I believe.

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.
Yes, suppression is off by default in 1.13. However I would avoid turning it on at first until you have the basics down. Yes, you can suppress but you can also be suppressed. It adds another tactical layer which is cool, but it's another thing to think about.

I like playing tons of guns. Most of the guns that drop are pretty useless anyway, so in a way it dilutes the tables and makes it harder to find something really sweet. It's also fun to find those really loony guns that are usual of no use to your party, but they're fun to look at.

Davoren
Aug 14, 2003

The devil you say!

The only game like this I've played before is Fallout Tactics. I did alright at first in JA2, got as far as taking the airfield so I could get equipment and stuff dropped in, found I had better luck fighting at night. Unfortunately after that I was running into enemy patrols on the map any time I tried to go to the next towns, and I just couldn't find a way to win in the wide, flat spaces I found myself in. I think I'll re-install and give it a try with 1.13, what better way to learn than to jump in at the deep end?

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.
Yes, it can be hard to fight when it seems there is no cover. However, there is such a thing as portable cover. It's called a smoke grenade.

EDIT: I like keeping a guy with a grenade launcher of some sort with smoke on tap on hand at all times. My thinking is I can sort of freeze the enemy with smoke and/or tear gas then I have bought some time to lay in something more serious.

Overwined fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Sep 25, 2010

ducttape
Mar 1, 2008

Davoren posted:

This is from way back but I must ask, I have JA2 from gog and it was really hard, granted I haven't played many games of this type, but I was also playing without the 1.13 patch. Is installing this patch either going to give me a way to have an easier time of things or make it more enjoyable to keep going at it?

If you just use 1.13 without doing anything else, it becomes harder (most notably the Drassen counterattack, but you also have to deal with more guns with more types of ammo making it harder for your squad to share). However, there are many things you can do with the editor, ranging from making it easier (turn off the counterattack, train more militia, sell items without a shop, have enemies drop everything they carry, etc.) to downright cheating (start with 6 IMP characters with 100's in all stats and level 10, create a gun that takes 1 AP to fire, has a range of 10 miles and base damage of 200, etc.)

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

Davoren posted:

The only game like this I've played before is Fallout Tactics. I did alright at first in JA2, got as far as taking the airfield so I could get equipment and stuff dropped in, found I had better luck fighting at night. Unfortunately after that I was running into enemy patrols on the map any time I tried to go to the next towns, and I just couldn't find a way to win in the wide, flat spaces I found myself in. I think I'll re-install and give it a try with 1.13, what better way to learn than to jump in at the deep end?

As a general rule you probably want to avoid fighting in outdoor areas because of that sort of thing. If you've got some night ops mercs (Igor is a good early night ops character), you can do pretty well in those areas by fighting at night. Just go prone and let the enemies come to you - night ops grants +1 sight range at night so you'll see them before they see you, and you'll probably score a ton of interrupts too.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

I think I'm a day behind replying to this thread, but I'm at 747 days now.

It's officially hit critical mass where I absolutely can no longer keep up with this thread. I liked GOG better when they were indie :(

Gashroom posted:

Oo, Age of Wonders has music by one of the Unreal dudes (Michiel van den Bos). Makes me want to try it.
Music is outstanding. I just much prefer Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic because while the mechanics are solid in these games, only Shadow Magic has a random-map generator to play Master of Magic-like (but modern) games.

sexual rickshaw
Jul 17, 2001

I AM A SOCIALIST COMMUNIST MARXIST FASCIST FREEDOM-HATING NAZI LIBERAL CZAR!
Is the Ishar Compilation worth getting? I've been looking at it, but after seeing videos of it, it looks rather hard.

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

sexual rickshaw posted:

Is the Ishar Compilation worth getting? I've been looking at it, but after seeing videos of it, it looks rather hard.

Not really. If you absolutely MUST have a Dungeon Master style game then I suppose there aren't many other options on GoG, but overall they're pretty simple and bland.

They do have nice graphics though, and the party personality system in (I believe) 2 is pretty spiffy, but overall you'd be much better served by the Realms of Arkania games or the Might and Magic collection.

Entorwellian
Jun 30, 2006

Northern Flicker
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.



sexual rickshaw posted:

Is the Ishar Compilation worth getting? I've been looking at it, but after seeing videos of it, it looks rather hard.

It does a few innovative things but for the most part it's not that good of a game. The biggest setback for me was that it costs precious gold to save your game, amongst other little nuances. You would be better with sticking with the Might and Magic collection. If you get the Might and Magic collection don't feel bad to use pdf maps for M&M 1 and 2, since mapping out your progress on grid paper is awful.

MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time

I just realized who else I'd really like to see get in on the GOG wagon. At least they're still selling most of the games, but they're pretty dang pricey and if I could just get digital copies for $10, even per game, I would be all over that.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

MonkeyforaHead posted:

I just realized who else I'd really like to see get in on the GOG wagon. At least they're still selling most of the games, but they're pretty dang pricey and if I could just get digital copies for $10, even per game, I would be all over that.

Oh yeah that would be amazing.

AFAIK they're currently working on a new version of YDKJ for the Wii so there's no reason for them not to.

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

MonkeyforaHead posted:

I just realized who else I'd really like to see get in on the GOG wagon. At least they're still selling most of the games, but they're pretty dang pricey and if I could just get digital copies for $10, even per game, I would be all over that.
For the time being, I've backed up all of my YDKJ discs to virtual drives so I don't have to worry about the CDs getting scratched. It works surprisingly well.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

MonkeyforaHead posted:

I just realized who else I'd really like to see get in on the GOG wagon. At least they're still selling most of the games, but they're pretty dang pricey and if I could just get digital copies for $10, even per game, I would be all over that.

GoG at least used to have a request area where you could vote on what you wanted. I don't know how to find it, if it survived into the new site.

e: And here it is: http://www.gog.com/en/wanted/

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

Mierenneuker posted:

Still waiting for Operation Flashpoint GOTY Edition to become available again (they no longer have the license to sell it). At this rate, I may have to contact their support department in the near future. How outrageous! :arghfist: :f5:
I have my doubts that it will ever become available again. Bohemia Interactive and Codemasters just don't get along with each anymore. At all. And, they both own the rights to OpFlash, so I think you can see the problem forming. I'm happy I grabbed it from GoG when I did. It sits next to TOCA 3 on my GoG bookshelf.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Nalin posted:

Codemasters
Codemasters does not get along with anyone.

GoldenNugget
Mar 27, 2008
:dukedog:

Nalin posted:

I have my doubts that it will ever become available again. Bohemia Interactive and Codemasters just don't get along with each anymore. At all. And, they both own the rights to OpFlash, so I think you can see the problem forming. I'm happy I grabbed it from GoG when I did. It sits next to TOCA 3 on my GoG bookshelf.

Yeah I was kind of bummed when they took away OFP. At least I have a british disc copy with all the campaigns and stuff. Oh and ArmA1 and 2 :).

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Nalin posted:

I have my doubts that it will ever become available again. Bohemia Interactive and Codemasters just don't get along with each anymore. At all. And, they both own the rights to OpFlash, so I think you can see the problem forming. I'm happy I grabbed it from GoG when I did. It sits next to TOCA 3 on my GoG bookshelf.

Oh, I bought it from GOG when it was available too. The thing is that all the OpFlash downloads currently give you a 404. That was (supposed to be) the gist of my previous post.

njark
Apr 26, 2008

Show them the Wasteland
hey, i was just looking for an opinion on the longest journey, it sounds like a really interesting adventure game is it any good? i already beat all my games in my current library besides Arx Fatalis but i just bought that so yeah.

Athletic Footjob
Sep 24, 2005
Grimey Drawer

njark posted:

hey, i was just looking for an opinion on the longest journey, it sounds like a really interesting adventure game is it any good? i already beat all my games in my current library besides Arx Fatalis but i just bought that so yeah.
It's an amazing game; you won't regret it!

njark
Apr 26, 2008

Show them the Wasteland

Blodskur posted:

It's an amazing game; you won't regret it!

ok just one more question, i promise! is the sequel just as good i kind of want to play them back to back.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
The sequel's good but rougher in a lot of areas. Still worth playing though.

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

njark posted:

hey, i was just looking for an opinion on the longest journey, it sounds like a really interesting adventure game is it any good? i already beat all my games in my current library besides Arx Fatalis but i just bought that so yeah.

Another "yes" for Longest Journey. If I had to rank my all-time favorite games, TLJ would be #2 on the list.

Zat
Jan 16, 2008

njark posted:

ok just one more question, i promise! is the sequel just as good i kind of want to play them back to back.

Dreamfall is not as good (actually pretty bad as an adventure game) but you'll want to play it for the story anyway. The Longest Journey is awesome though and you're in for some great stuff. :)

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
The Longest Journey is simultaneously the best and worst adventure game. On one hand it has some of the more ridiculous puzzles that heralded the end of adventure games as a popular genre. On the other hand it is ridiculously fun and has a good story by video game standards.

Dreamfall is of the new adventure game mold. Its not bad but it literally doesn't have an ending and the sequel is reaching Duke Nukem Forever levels of development hell.

Adam Bowen
Jan 6, 2003

This post probably contains a Rickroll link!

njark posted:

hey, i was just looking for an opinion on the longest journey, it sounds like a really interesting adventure game is it any good? i already beat all my games in my current library besides Arx Fatalis but i just bought that so yeah.

It's way too long for an adventure game. I kind of liked it, but I only got to about the 4th out of 13 chapters before giving up because I wasn't willing to devote so much of my life to a single adventure game. A lot of people would consider that length a selling point though, I imagine.

njark
Apr 26, 2008

Show them the Wasteland
ok thanks guys, going off to buy it now after i play a bit of Arx.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009
I've got a quick question about Gothic 2 (which I own but haven't installed): I've just played the Gothic 4 demo and the bow combat in that is awesome. Are bows any good/fun to use in Gothic 2?

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

zedprime posted:

Dreamfall is of the new adventure game mold. Its not bad but it literally doesn't have an ending and the sequel is reaching Duke Nukem Forever levels of development hell.

I wouldn't say that.. the Dreamfall developers have been pretty open that they're not working on the sequel right now and they're all focused on "The Secret World" MMO at the moment. Not at all like Duke Nukem Forever where it was in "active development" for over a decade.

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

Anyone buying The Longest journey, the drat thing starts up at 640x640 fullscreen and the only way you can change it to windowed is by finding a hidden .ini. It's preferences.ini and it's hidden in -

C:\Users\User-Name\AppData\Roaming\The Longest Journey - Windows 7

C:\Documents and Settings\User-Name\Application Data\The Longest Journey\ - Windows Vista/XP

The one in Program Files/The Longest Journey is obsolete and doesn't do anything.

To change from fullscreen to windowed mode find the new Preferences.ini and replace it with this. (This is the one found in programfiles/tlj, just with the fullscreen switch set to 0)

preferences.ini posted:

; Preference file for The Longest Journey

[Preferences]
bool_AprilHighRes=1
SfxVolume=0.671171
Charset=Western
VoiceVolume=0.644144
MusicVolume=0.725225
bool_Subtitles=1
bool_ShadowsOn=1
bool_DisableWarnings=1
bool_SkipCD=1
bool_HighResVideo=1
bool_AllowFastForward=0
bool_UseGFX=1
bool_IsFirstTime=1
SaveDir=01
GfxDriver=display

[DirectX]
GfxDriver=display
int_BitDepth=32
bool_IsDoubleBuffer=1
bool_UseHardware=1
bool_StartFullscreen=0
bool_ForceSingleBuffer=0

[SoundSection]
DecompressedBlockSize=16384
WorstcaseFrameRate=10
StreamBlockSize =4096
BlockSupplyLength=32

The cutscenes are still a bit bugged, but I don't think anything can be done about that. The fact it's tiny doesn't appear to be changeable either.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Ansob. posted:

I've got a quick question about Gothic 2 (which I own but haven't installed): I've just played the Gothic 4 demo and the bow combat in that is awesome. Are bows any good/fun to use in Gothic 2?

The controls in Gothic 2 are a motherfucker. Steep learning curve. I love them, but that's after 60 hours of playtime. It's no where near as refined as Gothic 3 and 4.

Industrial
May 31, 2001

Everyone here wishes I would ragequit my life

Ansob. posted:

I've got a quick question about Gothic 2 (which I own but haven't installed): I've just played the Gothic 4 demo and the bow combat in that is awesome. Are bows any good/fun to use in Gothic 2?

Bows are essential in Gothic 2. You start as a horrible weakling and the best way to kill things early on is with a bow from a high place.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
I've never bought anything from GOG, but I tried today and it kept declining my card. I know I've got plenty of money in my account, but it says my bank may have denied the charge. I buy things online all the time, so I can't think of what the problem might be. Does anyone have any ideas?

Methodis
Mar 22, 2010

by Ozmaugh
It might be because they're based in Poland, so maybe your bank doesn't allow you to have your credit card processed outside of the country? Just a guess.

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eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Methodis posted:

It might be because they're based in Poland, so maybe your bank doesn't allow you to have your credit card processed outside of the country? Just a guess.

Ah drat, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, I had trouble buying Minecraft too, so that is probably what it is. Thanks, I guess I'll have to deal with the hassle of getting some funds on Paypal.

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