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kapalama: Aug 15, 2007; EVERYTHING I SAY ABOUT JAPAN OR LIVING IN JAPAN IS COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT YOU BETTER BELIEVE I'LL ABOUT IT.

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poonchasta posted:

Why haven't you seen Fight Club? Go watch Fight Club.

(ignore this post. Leaving it for posterity, but.)

Same thing I always think whenever someone asks about this. Fight Club was a well worth watching movie. 2 really phenomenal actors, and a time well spent in general.

Plus it is one of the most culturally influential movies made in the last 20 years. Few movies invent cateogories in the real world, but this one (for good or bad) basically invented an entire sport and subculture. MMA is almost incomprehensible without this movie.

(ignore this post. Leaving it for posterity, but.)

kapalama fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Sep 30, 2010

# ? Sep 30, 2010 09:32

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# ? May 21, 2024 22:59

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kapalama posted:

Same thing I always think whenever someone asks about this. Fight Club was a well worth watching movie. 2 really phenomenal actors, and a time well spent in general.

Plus it is one of the most culturally influential movies made in the last 20 years. Few movies invent cateogories in the real world, but this one (for good or bad) basically invented an entire sport and subculture. MMA is almost incomprehensible without this movie.

Posts like this are why people hate Fight Club.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 09:37

kapalama: Aug 15, 2007; EVERYTHING I SAY ABOUT JAPAN OR LIVING IN JAPAN IS COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT YOU BETTER BELIEVE I'LL ABOUT IT.

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OneThousandMonkeys posted:

Posts like this are why people hate Fight Club.

Posts like this are why people ask what you mean?

# ? Sep 30, 2010 09:44

well why not: Feb 10, 2009

kapalama posted:

Same thing I always think whenever someone asks about this. Fight Club was a well worth watching movie. 2 really phenomenal actors, and a time well spent in general.

Plus it is one of the most culturally influential movies made in the last 20 years. Few movies invent cateogories in the real world, but this one (for good or bad) basically invented an entire sport and subculture. MMA is almost incomprehensible without this movie.

[quote ="wikipedia"]
The roots of modern mixed martial arts can be traced back to various mixed style contests that took place throughout Europe, Japan and the Pacific Rim during the early 1900s. The combat sport of Vale Tudo that had developed in Brazil from the 1920s was brought to the United states by the Gracie family in 1993 with the founding of the Ultimate Fighting Championship. Professional MMA events had also been held in Japan by Shooto starting back in 1989.
[/quote]

Fight Club was 2000, so uh, sorry.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 09:44

widunder: May 2, 2002

kapalama posted:

MMA is almost incomprehensible without this movie.

Haha, no. MMA would be where it is today without Fight Club. Go away.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 12:48

Mr. Fun: Sep 22, 2006; ABSOLUTE KINOGRAPHY

kapalama posted:

Posts like this are why people ask what you mean?

He means that every sentence in your post is stupid.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 13:01

cloudchamber: Aug 6, 2010; You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine

Fight Club's biggest cultural influence is that it invented the term cigarette burns.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 14:44

FitFortDanga: Nov 19, 2004; Nice try, asshole

Guys, we totally wouldn't have IKEA today if it wasn't for Fight Club.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 16:55

Jay Dub: Jul 27, 2009; I'm not listening
to youuuuu...

Fight Club convinced a girl I knew in high school that she, too, could make her own soap.

:barf:

# ? Sep 30, 2010 16:59

PushingKingston: Feb 25, 2005; What a BEARtiful face I have found in this place that is circling all round the sun.

I hate how every time I tell someone I'm a projectionist, they'll ask if I've ever spliced porn into random films because of Fight Club. It's loving annoying. I don't even know where I'd find 35mm porn these days.

Jay Dub posted:

Fight Club convinced a girl I knew in high school that she, too, could make her own soap.

Maybe she was lye-ing.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 18:45

InfiniteZero: Sep 11, 2004; PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT; College Slice

dolphins are gay posted:

Fight Club was 2000, so uh, sorry.

The UFC for that matter had peaked once several years before Fight Club showed up back in the days when nobody knew what to do about the Gracie clan. That was in the mid-90s.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 19:23

the Bunt: Sep 24, 2007; YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

I like every David Fincher movie I've seen but I loving hate...HATE HATEEEE Fight Club. I'm not even sure I could give a very good reason why. I hate how the message seemed to be subverted by the "coolness" factor. It's like a smug music video.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 20:05

SubG: Aug 19, 2004; It's a hard world for little things.

InfiniteZero posted:

The UFC for that matter had peaked once several years before Fight Club showed up back in the days when nobody knew what to do about the Gracie clan. That was in the mid-90s.

And about half of all kick flicks made in the '70s involved the idea of a tournament between guys who know different forms of martial arts. You know, obscure films like Enter the Dragon (1973).

# ? Sep 30, 2010 20:10

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Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy Fight Club, and it blew my mind. . . When I was 18. Even then I didn't think it invented anything, though. It certainly made being a sociopathic loser seem oddly sexy, though.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 20:26

LesterGroans: Jun 9, 2009; It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

Fight Club's a really good movie with a lot of lovely fans.

People need to like it more because it's really loving funny and less because it's "awesome" and "badass".

# ? Sep 30, 2010 21:17

muscles like this!: Jan 17, 2005

Brad Pitt was a little too charismatic. By the end of the book Tyler was more of a crazy gently caress up while Pitt was still Pitt. Which is probably why so many people took the wrong conclusions from the movie (a fight club and Project Mayhem style antics would be COOL!)

# ? Sep 30, 2010 21:26

mojo1701a: Oct 9, 2008; Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
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muscles like this? posted:

Brad Pitt was a little too charismatic. By the end of the book Tyler was more of a crazy gently caress up while Pitt was still Pitt. Which is probably why so many people took the wrong conclusions from the movie (a fight club and Project Mayhem style antics would be COOL!)

Yeah. The point I got from the movie is that it's really loving dangerous and really loving easy to get so disillusioned with life that you're willing to go to another extreme.

Like "home-grown terrorists" who don't consider the country they were born in "theirs."

# ? Sep 30, 2010 21:33

SubG: Aug 19, 2004; It's a hard world for little things.

LesterGroans posted:

Fight Club's a really good movie with a lot of lovely fans.

People need to like it more because it's really loving funny and less because it's "awesome" and "badass".

Fight Club Fans:Fight Club::John Hinckley, Jr.:Taxi Driver.

Discuss.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 21:53

Trump: Jul 16, 2003; Cute

PushingKingston posted:

I hate how every time I tell someone I'm a projectionist, they'll ask if I've ever spliced porn into random films because of Fight Club. It's loving annoying. I don't even know where I'd find 35mm porn these days.

You could get a few frames of a big fat cock from Fight Club itself if you really wanted actually.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 23:07

poonchasta: Feb 22, 2007; FFFFAAAFFFFF FFFFFAAAAAAAFFFFF FFFFFFFFAAAAAAFFFFF FFFFFFFAAAAAAAFFFFFF FFFFFFFAAAAAAAFFFFF

Of course about 8 years ago Fight Club was my favorite movie because it "changed" my life. I tried watching it again recently and shut it off after like an hour because a good chunk of that movie is the main characters going "we are so loving cool and edgy because we reject the norms of society and beat the gently caress out of each other" and it just pissed me off. I should try watching it again soon, because it's a really cool film from a technical standpoint.

EDIT: I would kill for a cut of this film with little or no narration. Kind of like what they did with the Blade Runner Director's Cut. That's another reason it's hard for me to watch Fight Club again because of all the drat narration.

# ? Sep 30, 2010 23:26

Bobfromsales: Apr 2, 2010

Fight Club is this generations Catcher in the Rye.

# ? Oct 1, 2010 00:00

...of SCIENCE!: Apr 26, 2008; by Fluffdaddy

PushingKingston posted:

I hate how every time I tell someone I'm a projectionist, they'll ask if I've ever spliced porn into random films because of Fight Club. It's loving annoying. I don't even know where I'd find 35mm porn these days.

I hate it because that entire concept of subliminal messaging is complete and totally bullcrap, the infamous "buy popcorn, drink coke" experiment's results were entirely faked, nobody could duplicate them and the guy who conducted the study admitted later on he falsified the whole thing. It's just one of those vestigial cultural concepts that everyone accepts without question through cultural osmosis. Granted, it could just be an example of how Tyler Durden is full of poo poo but that kind of thing pops up in all of Palahniuk's books (like all the evolutionary psychology/PUA stuff in Diary) and it always gets on my nerves since he so obviously goes out of his way to dig up a bunch of factoids to throw into his books.

Yeah, I read a few of his books in highschool, I'm not ashamed to admit it. The difference is that Fight Club the movie is still a good movie (that always manages to bring up a derail every time it's mentioned here :nolan:

) now that I'm out of highschool while all his books are 3dgy tripe that tries way too hard and is almost completely interchangeable with any other book he's written.

# ? Oct 1, 2010 03:44

Gobbeldygook: May 13, 2009; Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

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...of SCIENCE! posted:

Granted, it could just be an example of how Tyler Durden is full of poo poo but that kind of thing pops up in all of Palahniuk's books (like all the evolutionary psychology/PUA stuff in Diary) and it always gets on my nerves since he so obviously goes out of his way to dig up a bunch of factoids to throw into his books.

I appreciate how many of his 'factoids' are likely to get his readers killed or seriously injured if they try to actually try to apply them. I will always wonder if that's deliberate or not.

# ? Oct 1, 2010 06:04

VorpalBunny: May 1, 2009; Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog

poonchasta posted:

Of course about 8 years ago Fight Club was my favorite movie because it "changed" my life. I tried watching it again recently and shut it off after like an hour because a good chunk of that movie is the main characters going "we are so loving cool and edgy because we reject the norms of society and beat the gently caress out of each other" and it just pissed me off. I should try watching it again soon, because it's a really cool film from a technical standpoint.

EDIT: I would kill for a cut of this film with little or no narration. Kind of like what they did with the Blade Runner Director's Cut. That's another reason it's hard for me to watch Fight Club again because of all the drat narration.

But isn't that the whole point of the movie? The narrator and Tyler are both full of poo poo. They aren't any better than anyone else. It's only the fact that they "don't give a gently caress" that they can do the things they do, and then that gets derailed by Tyler/narrator waking up and giving a gently caress and rescuing Marla.

The men who feel like mindless drones and reject society become mindless drones in Tyler's army. Space monkeys.

# ? Oct 1, 2010 08:22

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

Recently rewatched Dr Strangelove.

- Is there any significance to Dr Strangelove being a former Nazi?

- If I understand correctly, the entire apocalypse triggered because Ripper was upset about his impotence and blamed the commies for it?

# ? Oct 1, 2010 08:46

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Is there any significance to Dr Strangelove being a former Nazi?

You mean beyond the obvious?

Steve Yun posted:

If I understand correctly, the entire apocalypse triggered because Ripper was upset about his impotence and blamed the commies for it?

He's psychotic.

# ? Oct 1, 2010 08:55

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

You mean beyond the obvious?

My apologies, but I'm not sure what the obvious answer is here.

# ? Oct 1, 2010 09:07

Binowru: Feb 15, 2007; I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird.

Steve Yun posted:

- If I understand correctly, the entire apocalypse triggered because Ripper was upset about his impotence and blamed the commies for it?

The subtle message of Dr. Strangelove is the connection between the male libido and warfare. See also General Turgidson, President Muffley, the two aircraft having sex during the opening credits...

# ? Oct 1, 2010 09:09

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VorpalBunny posted:

But isn't that the whole point of the movie? The narrator and Tyler are both full of poo poo. They aren't any better than anyone else. It's only the fact that they "don't give a gently caress" that they can do the things they do, and then that gets derailed by Tyler/narrator waking up and giving a gently caress and rescuing Marla.

The men who feel like mindless drones and reject society become mindless drones in Tyler's army. Space monkeys.

I listened to the commentary years ago when I was a student and fight club seemed important somehow. I seem to remember them saying how confused they were that people thought that they were glorifying violence and trying to make this all seem cool. Something along the lines of "actually look at all of these characters, they're loving retarded."

It seems like when people said Trainspotting glorified heroin usage. On the surface it seems cool, there seems to be a mystique. The characters themselves though are actually experiencing a kind of hell that comes along with that lifestyle.

# ? Oct 1, 2010 09:26

SubG: Aug 19, 2004; It's a hard world for little things.

Steve Yun posted:

My apologies, but I'm not sure what the obvious answer is here.

I'm not sure what the `most obvious' significance to the character being German is. Off the top of my head:

It's a reference to Dr Rotwang from Lang's Metropolis (1927), an archetypal film mad scientist; much of the look of the character (particularly the single black glove) is borrowed from here
It's a reference to the (historical) fact that America actively recruited scientists that were part of the German war effort in the Second World War, notably Wernher von Braun

The Strangelove character seems to be mostly a pastiche of Rotwang and von Braun, along with RAND Corporation nuclear war strategist Herman Kahn, who was one of the first people to apply game theory to the cold war. His big contribution (such as it is) was probably the formulation of what would later be known as the Mutual Assured Destruction (or MAD) doctrine, which is more or less the theory behind the `doomsday device' in Strangelove.

Binowru posted:

The subtle message of Dr. Strangelove is the connection between the male libido and warfare. See also General Turgidson, President Muffley, the two aircraft having sex during the opening credits...

President Merkin Muffley.

# ? Oct 1, 2010 11:06

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

Ok. I was wondering if there was some essential plot significance, but I guess not.

# ? Oct 1, 2010 16:56

Teriyaki Hairpiece: Dec 29, 2006; I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

ClydeUmney posted:

Yes. If you have an account there (it's free), there's a checkbox under preferences to go back to the old page design.

From a few pages back, but thank you very very much.

# ? Oct 1, 2010 18:12

lost in postation: Aug 14, 2009

Steve Yun posted:

My apologies, but I'm not sure what the obvious answer is here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTKn1aSOyOs

# ? Oct 1, 2010 18:46

CzarChasm: Mar 14, 2009; I don't like it when you're watching me eat.

I'm going to ask this while I'm still digging through this thread as it has been bothering me. In crime dramas, it drives me up the loving wall when the cops come to the bad guy's home, and find he's not there, and NEVER TURN ON THE loving LIGHTS. I refuse to believe that even a rookie would not turn on, or even try to turn on, a light to see better in a dark, unfamiliar room. Worried about leaving fingerprints? Put on some gloves, use your flashlight to flip the switch. Worried that the bad guy is going to come home and see his light's on and run away? Well, poo poo, he's only got the clothes on his back, and if you have a warrant that got you this far, you probably have an idea of what he looks like, what car he drives, where he works and probably who some of his friends are. Go looking for that stuff.

It just makes no sense to me.

I see this more in TV, but probably that is more based on my viewing habits than anything.

# ? Oct 1, 2010 22:04

cloudchamber: Aug 6, 2010; You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine

CzarChasm posted:

I'm going to ask this while I'm still digging through this thread as it has been bothering me. In crime dramas, it drives me up the loving wall when the cops come to the bad guy's home, and find he's not there, and NEVER TURN ON THE loving LIGHTS. I refuse to believe that even a rookie would not turn on, or even try to turn on, a light to see better in a dark, unfamiliar room. Worried about leaving fingerprints? Put on some gloves, use your flashlight to flip the switch. Worried that the bad guy is going to come home and see his light's on and run away? Well, poo poo, he's only got the clothes on his back, and if you have a warrant that got you this far, you probably have an idea of what he looks like, what car he drives, where he works and probably who some of his friends are. Go looking for that stuff.

It just makes no sense to me.

I see this more in TV, but probably that is more based on my viewing habits than anything.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3208845

# ? Oct 1, 2010 22:11

momomoto: Jul 25, 2007

Is there a movie where a cat sucks out a babies breath in it? I remember this scene but I cannot remember anything else about the movie. Can anyone help me out?

# ? Oct 3, 2010 22:11

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

Mosley42 posted:

Is there a movie where a cat sucks out a babies breath in it? I remember this scene but I cannot remember anything else about the movie. Can anyone help me out?

Is that Cat's Eye?

# ? Oct 3, 2010 22:24

itrorev: Sep 22, 2006

Assuming thats the movie you're thinking of, its not the cat that sucks the baby's breath out but rather some little goblin monster thing. The cat is actually trying to defend the baby from it.

itrorev fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Oct 4, 2010

# ? Oct 4, 2010 04:54

Zogo: Jul 29, 2003

Mr. Arkadin question:

It opens with a scene showing an empty plane. Are we to believe that he jumped out of the plane somehow as it was still flying or did it crash with him in it?

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Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

Can someone explain the ending of the Japanese version of One Missed Call (2004) to me?

# ? Oct 10, 2010 13:28

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