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Linguica posted:I can't get over just how ridiculous the New Jersey Board of Bar Examiners website is I watched this for a minute or two waiting for twangy theme music to play and a battlecruiser to fly into the frame
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Defleshed posted:They are apparently all space-lawyers practicing Space law I hear Valpo is good for space law, confirm/deny?
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Wavelet posted:You're 2 for 4: I want to make NY level pay and have tons of prestige. In California. Doing litigation. Hopefully my question is not too broad to answer now? SF or LA? In general, a non-exhaustive list of firms meeting your criteria: Munger Keker Susman Irell Gibson Latham O'Melveny Quinn MoFo
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J Miracle posted:I want to read the brief from the government that says that dude is a bailee or something. I wish the dude had smashed it just to see if there would be some kind of dumbass malicious destruction of government property case or something. I wonder if they could get an obstruction charge if he had attached it to a truck heading into Central America
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BigHead posted:Oh I got confused between preemption and, um, that other thing. Not release and res judicata, but the other one. You know. What your CivPro professor spent half a day trying to teach you. So are you saying there is preclusion or just being an rear end?
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Passed the PA bar exam~~
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Linguica posted:Passed the PA bar exam~~ W00t!
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Linguica posted:Passed the PA bar exam~~ Congratulations!
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Linguica posted:Passed the PA bar exam~~ Nice work man. Job?
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Roger_Mudd posted:So are you saying there is preclusion or just being an rear end? Yeah, preclusion. You need privity for preclusion. I wasn't being an rear end  Also hooray Linquica!
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Linguica posted:Passed the PA bar exam~~ Now you have to be a lawyer  Get drunk and enjoy! Wavelet posted:Anyone know anything about CA biglaw? The good firms? The bad firms? The TTTs? http://www.callawyer.com/story.cfm?eid=911408&evid=1 A starting point. I can probably find something out about the NorCal firms. SoCal sucks, who cares? nm fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Oct 8, 2010 |
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Linguica posted:Passed the PA bar exam~~
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congrats man, no jobs, etc etc
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Passed!Linguica posted:Passed the PA bar exam~~ 
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nm posted:What's a good law school for space law? GULC has a space law seminar. edit http://www.law.georgetown.edu/curriculum/tab_courses.cfm?Status=Course&CourseNumber=406
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So I'm stressing out over the LSAT being tomorrow and have done so many logic games I think I'm actually starting to get worse. How did you guys deal with the night before the LSAT to calm down?
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Walamor posted:So I'm stressing out over the LSAT being tomorrow and have done so many logic games I think I'm actually starting to get worse. How did you guys deal with the night before the LSAT to calm down?
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You assholes. I've wanted to be a lawyer my whole loving life. Ever since I was a little kid. Now here I am, night before the LSATS, having an existential crisis. I hate you all. Now I am unsure about going to law school, and don't know what the gently caress to do. I never thought of myself as not going to law school. I thought of Library Science, but I was going to go do both. I don't know if the LSAT is giving me cold feet or if it is simply re-reading this stupid thread. Zealous Abattoir fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Oct 9, 2010 |
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I've got those pre-lsat jitters too. Went out and bought another LSAT pretest because I was stressing that I might not be able to get the analytical done on time, and ended up finishing that section in 30 mins with just 1 wrong. However, it backfired a little bit, because I got 5 wrong in the first logic section, which is more than I've ever had, so I'm stressed out about that now. On the bright side, I finished that section in 15 minutes, so I'm guessing I'd have caught a few of those if I had taken more time.
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Walamor posted:So I'm stressing out over the LSAT being tomorrow and have done so many logic games I think I'm actually starting to get worse. How did you guys deal with the night before the LSAT to calm down?
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Zealous Abattoir posted:You assholes. I've wanted to be a lawyer my whole loving life. Ever since I was a little kid. Now here I am, night before the LSATS, having an existential crisis. I hate you all. Now I am unsure about going to law school, and don't know what the gently caress to do. I never thought of myself as not going to law school. I thought of Library Science, but I was going to go do both. Draile posted:GULC has a space law seminar. Ersatz fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Oct 9, 2010 |
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Walamor posted:So I'm stressing out over the LSAT being tomorrow and have done so many logic games I think I'm actually starting to get worse. How did you guys deal with the night before the LSAT to calm down? I did this same thing the night before the December LSAT. I prepped and prepped. I'd been testing around 169-170. I GOT A 166. I didn't look at another LSAT until I took one single practice a week before the February test and then scored a 173. So I think it's totally possible to stress out too much and get worse. but ymmv
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Anyone who doesn't go to law school is a human being sissy pussy freshman who deserves to choke on a weiner. Do it. Come on. Do it.
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Walamor posted:So I'm stressing out over the LSAT being tomorrow and have done so many logic games I think I'm actually starting to get worse. How did you guys deal with the night before the LSAT to calm down? Watch Robocop
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Walamor posted:So I'm stressing out over the LSAT being tomorrow and have done so many logic games I think I'm actually starting to get worse. How did you guys deal with the night before the LSAT to calm down? Drink some good scotch while you can still afford it
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I want you to think about the LSAT. Think about how you're stressing, the consequences of what you're doing and how hard the test is. That's the easiest test you'll take for the rest of your life if you go to law school.
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Draile posted:GULC has a space law seminar. WCL/American has one too. I took it and dropped midway through. My friend took it and is now doing that kind of field work for the USAF.
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ewr2870 posted:SF or LA? OMM's CA litigators are loving terrible. Like, shockingly bad for the firm's general reputation. Skadden has a solid litigation group in LA. In SF, there's also Howard Rice.
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Mookie posted:OMM's CA litigators are loving terrible. Like, shockingly bad for the firm's general reputation. OMM's white collar litigators in SF are well-regarded; I don't know much about their LA office or their other practice groups in SF. If we're adding Howard Rice in SF, I'd also add Farella Braun.
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Walamor posted:So I'm stressing out over the LSAT being tomorrow and have done so many logic games I think I'm actually starting to get worse. How did you guys deal with the night before the LSAT to calm down? Chill out and remember that you can take it again consequences-free.
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ewr2870 posted:SF or LA? Thank you, thank you. How's Latham handling the post-fallout period? Are they losing midlevels? I can't imagine associate morale being too hot over there. Any good satellite offices out West? Mookie mentioned Skadden LA & SF. How about Kirkland & Ellis (LA or SF)? Any good SV firms/offices? Or are they categorically less prestigious than SF/LA offices?
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Wavelet posted:Thank you, thank you. I only mentioned Skadden LA. I'm not familiar with their capabilities in SF. Kirkland used to be highly regarded; I know that their California offices have had a lot of trouble in the last few years internally. I don't think that's translated into an external reputation/quality hit yet. Latham did fine. Everyone got rattled because of the layoffs, but after a while, you realize you're still there for a reason, and that all large law firms would shiv their associates if needed/given the chance. Plus, where are the midlevels realistically going to go? The lateral market has loosened up quite a bit in the last six months, but mostly for firms looking to pick up talent on the cheap. If you survived the layoffs, why take a step or two further down in salary and reputation? Also, of the Big Three in LA, I've always placed their litigation department a step below Gibson, for what it is worth. Regarding Silicon Valley, you'll get a different answer for hard-core IP litigation vs. generic litigation. Which do you care about?
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Zealous Abattoir posted:You assholes. I've wanted to be a lawyer my whole loving life. Ever since I was a little kid. Now here I am, night before the LSATS, having an existential crisis. I hate you all. Now I am unsure about going to law school, and don't know what the gently caress to do. I never thought of myself as not going to law school. I thought of Library Science, but I was going to go do both.
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CaptainScraps posted:I want you to think about the LSAT. Think about how you're stressing, the consequences of what you're doing and how hard the test is. This. Good luck to the people taking it, but just keep this post in mind, as understated as it is, while you're waiting for your results. And when you're thinking about which applications to send. And when you're waiting for the results of those applications. And waiting for school to start. That's a lot of waiting, a lot of time to think, and a lot of time to be really sure about what you're getting into and exactly why you want to do it.
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Wavelet posted:Thank you, thank you. Kirkland is p good in SF, don't know about LA. And IMO there's absolutely nothing less prestigious about making the same money in SV. Like if you're at Wilson Sonsini in Palo Alto, then good on you. Care more about the city, less about the firm. Mookie does have a point about if you want to do IP vs. other lit, but I don't really think that's about prestige. Best of luck on the LSAT today noobs! Not too late to cancel!
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sigmachiev posted:Kirkland is p good in SF, don't know about LA. And IMO there's absolutely nothing less prestigious about making the same money in SV. Like if you're at Wilson Sonsini in Palo Alto, then good on you. Care more about the city, less about the firm. I know that Kirkland LA has been hurting recently and that my friends there are all looking to get out or to transfer to another Kirkland office, so I think it might be local to there. For the SF vs. SV thing, I agree that the "prestige" portion will be the same to a law student's eyes. However, it won't be after he's been there a few years. In SV, the general litigators are very frequently second class citizens to the IP litigators, given the nature of the business there - the IP guys are the ones who are likely to have the primary client relationships, etc. Add to that the lack of decent local litigation work if the firm also has a SF office (where the securities and white collar litigation practices will be concentrated) and there are definitely fewer avenues for advancement as a non-IP litigator in an SV office. Other firms, and others within the firm, know this, which radically changes the "prestige" calculation once you shed the law student perspective. That said, there are some real powerhouses in SV. Wilson Sonsini was already mentioned. Simpson Thacher has a great litigation group there as well. Fish & Richardson is always well-regarded too, although I'm not sure how well they've been doing in this last recession. Plus, if you ever want to be a real scumbag, you can try going to work for Joe Cotchett.
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Hey NM, you may have a job, but we have your axe
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Wavelet posted:How's Latham handling the post-fallout period? Are they losing midlevels? I can't imagine associate morale being too hot over there. I know several people who were at Latham this summer (at a couple of different CA offices) and didn't get the sense from them that morale was noticeably worse than at other firms. EDIT: (Of course, everyone lies to summers, blah, blah, blah...). ewr2870 fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Oct 9, 2010 |
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Linguica posted:Passed the PA bar exam~~ 
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