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savinhill posted:Why doesn't the new DiBiase grow a beard? The first one already sucks beyond the point of redemption, at least this new one would look more like his awesome father than his lovely brother. This one has negative charisma
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Endorph posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsWwasyCSo&feature=related This ruled so hard, was there any fallout from him saying that? Love how he gave himself the double-  right after he dropped it.
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Shitty_Wok posted:What are some other great gaffes to come out of promos?
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Shitty_Wok posted:What are some other great gaffes to come out of promos? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7yP-T3ZCsg#t=1m30s
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Shitty_Wok posted:This ruled so hard, was there any fallout from him saying that? No, the best part is Sherri's massive  after he says it.
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Oct 10, 2010 12:02
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Stanfield posted:What are some DVDs with good alternate commentary(s) for matches? Mick Foley and Kevin Kelly commentating on Kennel from Hell. I think it's on Hard Knocks and Cheap Pops?
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reality_groove posted:Mick Foley and Kevin Kelly commentating on Kennel from Hell. I think it's on Hard Knocks and Cheap Pops? Yep that is like a MST commentary
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SenorSpangiel posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7yP-T3ZCsg#t=1m30s
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Stanfield posted:What are some DVDs with good alternate commentary(s) for matches? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7OmP1FIHZM
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Lone Rogue posted:The truth is, Paul Heyman was honestly an incredibly flawed and limited promoter yet an occasionally genius booker ahead of his time who was able to book a territory extremely well to the point of cult status. Almost nobody claims Heyman was a good promoter, they say he was good booker who got burned out and was horrible at the business end of promoting. Also they're two different roles that are often the same person. Remember, Vince during the 80s wasn't the booker. He was the promoter and Pat Patterson was the booker.
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Shitty_Wok posted:What are some other great gaffes to come out of promos? Owen, in a backstage promo: "Right here, right now, next week, in the ring!"
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reality_groove posted:Mick Foley and Kevin Kelly commentating on Kennel from Hell. I think it's on Hard Knocks and Cheap Pops? Classic lines including Mick Foley wondering what would happen if the dogs gave birth during the match and Foley also commenting that Snow picked his attire from the "Kmart collection"
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The Berzerker posted:Owen, in a backstage promo: "Right here, right now, next week, in the ring!" Never sure if Owen's botched promos were gaffes or ribs ...
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The Berzerker posted:Owen, in a backstage promo: "Right here, right now, next week, in the ring!" "And that's why I kicked your leg out of your leg!"
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Stanfield posted:What are some DVDs with good alternate commentary(s) for matches?
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Dragging Iron Feet posted:Taz & Cole's alternate commentaries for the Japanese matches on the Benoit DVD are pretty good The third dialogue track, with Benoit, Dean Malenko, and Todd Grisham, however, is not. Grisham seems to make it his goal to mispronounce every Japanese wrestler's name, and he makes Benoit and Malenko grow more and more flustered as the DVDs go on by asking them moronic questions. The Great Sas-ukey!
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Dragging Iron Feet posted:Taz & Cole's alternate commentaries for the Japanese matches on the Benoit DVD are pretty good, as is Dreamer's commentary (with Coach I think) for the Dreamer vs Raven match on the Rise + Fall DVD (Taz & Cole's commentary for Taz vs Bam Bam is good too but really loving pointless), and the Foley & Coach commentary for Foley vs Sting is pretty fun. One of the Hogan DVDs had the Andre/Hogan Shea Stadium match with some good alt commentary by Cole and Tazz.
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Survivor Series 06 has the finals from Survivor Series 89 commented by Cole and Tazz and I enjoyed it.
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Decade of Decadence has Edge and Striker commenting on a couple of his matches. It was as entertaining as you'd expect.
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Sotar posted:Not really the fault of Mean Gene but they aired the wrong take Hearing Shiavone on WWE commentary is weird every single time.
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Sotar posted:Not really the fault of Mean Gene but they aired the wrong take Mean Gene bloopers are my favorites. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9xTqaTmAbg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_a8HJYAgXk#t=0m40s
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So I can see a lot of paralells between ECW and TNA, don't get me wrong *I consider ECW an infinitely superior product, but I do see similarities. The main difference I can see is ECW had fewer rescources and used it's limited rescources much more wisely. Anyway, I am wide of my own point. What I want to know is if there ever was a time where ECW had a pretty similar attitudes towwards it andn reputation that TNA has today? I've always got the impression that ECW never recieved such harsh criticisms because of it's essential point as wrestling counter culture in the late 90's - 2001 and thus was liked my the majority of savvy smarks.
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Sue Denim posted:So I can see a lot of paralells between ECW and TNA, don't get me wrong *I consider ECW an infinitely superior product, but I do see similarities. The main difference I can see is ECW had fewer rescources and used it's limited rescources much more wisely. It never received the same level of criticism, although people did get pretty fed up with some of the decisions Heyman made in 2000 with Justin Credible and the Network. But the core fan base was still pretty loyal to the end and the overall view of the product was never as negative.
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Sue Denim posted:So I can see a lot of paralells between ECW and TNA, don't get me wrong *I consider ECW an infinitely superior product, but I do see similarities. The main difference I can see is ECW had fewer rescources and used it's limited rescources much more wisely. The counter-culture to wrestling right now is basically ROH. TNA is just identified as an attempted resurrection of everything that was WCW, including all of its systemic problems.
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I don't really see the TNA / ECW comparison. What ECW was know for was the innovation and popularization of a new style, attitude, and appearance of wrestling. I can think of few original ideas TNA has had. ECW was, for all its flaws, new. TNA is a rehash. ECW was genuinely influential. TNA is a retirement home for WWE and WCW alumni with a couple of good performers thrown in. Aside from the fact that both outlived their natural death, I don't see the comparison.
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TNA had one ECW-like run. It was between Russo's booking tenures.
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Both promotions were/are poo poo, and had/have a core audience that will ferociously defend said poo poo, so i would say yes, the similarities are definitely there They both even out because ecw's angles weren't stale so they get the lead on that one, but tna gets the edge on match quality as quite a few meltzerfests took place there! hth
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Mystery Opponent posted:Both promotions were/are poo poo, and had/have a core audience that will ferociously defend said poo poo, so i would say yes, the similarities are definitely there I still maintain that ECW was popular amongst a group of people who never saw the product.
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Lamuella posted:
TNA isn't exactly influential, but there were definately some times that TNA has been "indy and gently caress", and in a good way. The World X Cup saw them bring in teams of foreign workers for a "World Tournament", and treated it like a big deal, that ran over multiple weeks, and had a coherant (for TNA) ranking system. They didn't even bloat the roster by hiring them, or re-packaging TNA workers under masks. It was all a genuinely exhibitional thing. The cage match Dutch Mantel booked between Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle is arguably one of the most unique and exciting matches of the past decade. Even though TNA (and some fans) completely shat on this "new direction", I think this match probably has the potential to be influential. If anyone ever decides to seriously take Wrestling in a new direction (the same way ECW pushed wrestling in a new direction), then this is the match that the match that defines it. Of course, it's all gone to hell now, but I think TNA always strived to be seen in the same light as ECW. They wanted fans to think "this is the new ECW. It's the new alternative", not necessarily by emulating the violent style, but by trying to create the same sort of "rebel edge", that made people say "gently caress WWE. Have you heard what this other promotion are doing?!"
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Moose Bigelow posted:I still maintain that ECW was popular amongst a group of people who never saw the product. You're pretty much right. WWE 24/7 is ruining peoples perceptions of ECW. They get all excited to see what it was truly all about and then get bored watching Brian Lee brawl with Tommy Dreamer.
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Why is it that pretty much every wrestling board is full of absolute poo poo? It's almost worse than youtube comments. Is it something about the nature of wrestling fans or just the anonymity of the internet reaching out to all types of forums? Note I'm for the most part talking about non-pay sites.
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Wojtek posted:Why is it that pretty much every wrestling board is full of absolute poo poo? It's almost worse than youtube comments. A combination of the two. The greater internet fuckwhistle theory exists for a reason.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Hearing Shiavone on WWE commentary is weird every single time. Coincidentally, when I first started watching WWF, he was the main commentator, so it isn't all weird for me.
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Hockles posted:Coincidentally, when I first started watching WWF, he was the main commentator, so it isn't all weird for me. Yeah, I actually found it weirder to see Schiavone and Bobby Heenan on WCW back when it was airing, as they were "WWF guys" to me.
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:A combination of the two. The greater internet fuckwhistle theory exists for a reason.
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Wojtek posted:Why is it that pretty much every wrestling board is full of absolute poo poo? It's almost worse than youtube comments. Its the same thing with any board. They all seem to bring out the worst and/or the craziest fans.
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