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SlimGoodbody posted:Man, I see one of two things happening with Durkon here, and both are depressing as hell. I'd really like to believe that they're just going to have a civil, if heated, disagreement in philosophy but manage to maintain a level of friendship in spite of it. Of course, Durkon is kind of overdue for some character development so I wouldn't bet on it.
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It's a neat layout but needs stronger reference to the passage of time to keep you from reading it like a normal strip. But it's great once you figure out what it is doing.
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Oct 13, 2010 12:23
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I don't see why Durkon would have to fight this cleric. While he worships an evil-ish god, I think the strips pretty much suggests the cleric is neutral, not evil, himself.
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Oct 13, 2010 12:24
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 Click here for the full 1320x970 image. Edited for clarity.
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Oct 13, 2010 14:06
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Nicely done!
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Oct 13, 2010 14:34
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Haha, somehow I totally missed the cat and V's bird fighting the first time through.
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Oct 13, 2010 14:55
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He should have had the different phases of the sun on the left and gone left-> right instead of up->down. Who reads up and down?
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Oct 13, 2010 14:59
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Of course all the criticism he's getting will mean he'll go into no strip output mode for months now.
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Oct 13, 2010 17:10
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Indolent Bastard posted:
This is certainly much more clear but it doesn't read well at all. I don't see what was so difficult about the original strip. Did any of you who were having trouble reading it actually notice the sun panels at top? Stop skimming pages.
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Oct 13, 2010 17:25
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Brannock posted:This is certainly much more clear but it doesn't read well at all. It was just a quick and dirty edit for those that couldn't see how the original flowed. If he made it in the style I edited into (how each character's day went) I think it could read better, but whatever, it's only one strip.
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Oct 13, 2010 18:43
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Manyorcas posted:If you only follow Durkon in the very, very confusing left to right order he seems to ask the lizard cleric for advice on the spell after his first attempt, so I imagine it was something a bit more complicated than that. I think he's researching a mass version of Death Ward: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0672.html (panels 4 & 5)
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Oct 13, 2010 19:32
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I wasn't really directing that comment towards you, sorry. I'm just bugged when people complain that they don't understand a page's flow and it turns out it's because they skim it without actually paying attention to stuff like the sun panels at top of the page.
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Oct 13, 2010 19:33
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Brannock posted:I wasn't really directing that comment towards you, sorry. I'm just bugged when people complain that they don't understand a page's flow and it turns out it's because they skim it without actually paying attention to stuff like the sun panels at top of the page. Because the eye doesn't' work that way. I imagine if the webcomics thread isn't already having a field day with this they certainly would.
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HKR posted:Because the eye doesn't' work that way. If I got it immediately but you didn't, do we have different kinds of eyes?
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Oct 13, 2010 20:13
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Nenonen posted:If I got it immediately but you didn't, do we have different kinds of eyes? I wasn't saying I was unable to follow it immediately, but it took a couple scans to figure out what was going on and how it should be read, which is a horrible idea for comics.
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I think Affl hit the nail on the head with this post:Affi posted:He should have had the different phases of the sun on the left and gone left-> right instead of up->down. Who reads up and down? From what I can guess, it looks like people got confused because they were reading left to right, morning to evening, then moved down a panel and it was morning again.
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Oct 13, 2010 22:16
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Yeah, my issue was that I was reading along the top row, as you normally would in a comic. But that one with the stories rearranged to line up is just a bad solution; breaks the flow and means that you just end up reading each separately. Compromise edit?  Click here for the full 1320x970 image. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Oct 14, 2010 |
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Oct 14, 2010 00:45
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MikeJF posted:Yeah, my issue was that I was reading along the top row, as you normally would in a comic. I like this edit. Very easy to follow the action.
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Oct 14, 2010 15:33
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New comic!
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Oct 15, 2010 21:20
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Elan's dad is happy that his son's a hero, and unhappy that Nale's a villain? Or is he just unhappy that Nale is such a lovely villain?
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Pope Guilty posted:Elan's dad is happy that his son's a hero, and unhappy that Nale's a villain? Or is he just unhappy that Nale is such a lovely villain? I imagine, considering he is Elan's dad, that he's super-happy that he has a son who is a hero who can dramatically oppose him. Nale is a disappointment because he followed in his dad's footsteps and there is no drama in that.
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Pope Guilty posted:Elan's dad is happy that his son's a hero, and unhappy that Nale's a villain? Or is he just unhappy that Nale is such a lovely villain? I always Figured Elan's dad is a tyrant but he stands by his word (Family excepted) and understands the worth of his allies e.g. Evil, not a douche Nale of course is a backstabbing Maniac who has no sense of Honor or Dramatic timing.
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Oct 15, 2010 22:10
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Of course, it's also possible that he's just saying that to Elan because Elan's not bright enough to understand when he's being played.
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Oct 15, 2010 22:23
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Or he enjoys a son that is fun as opposed to a son who is a colossal tightwad with charisma as his dump stat?
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Why would your mother lie to you, Elan? Maybe because she's Chaotic Good and thinks the lie is what's best for you?
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I think Tarquin, being Elan's father, considers PC to be well above Recurring Sub-Villain. He's proud of Elan for being so narratively important.
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Pope Guilty posted:Of course, it's also possible that he's just saying that to Elan because Elan's not bright enough to understand when he's being played. He's not smart, but he knows enough dramatic troupe to know what's going on on a bigger scale.
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Guys, remember, Tarquin's Lawful. He may be an evil oppressor of humanity, but he's a (somewhat) faithful, loyal, law-abiding evil oppressor of humanity.
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Oct 18, 2010 15:49
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New episode! ... eh, I dunno. I think I like Haley better when she's tough and acts sensibly and isn't just the requisite girl character who cares about shoes and hair. Oh well, couldn't find anything to complain about in the last few hundred episodes, I guess it's about due.
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Oct 18, 2010 18:41
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Oh thank goodness, couldn't stand that haircut (or V's.)
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Oct 18, 2010 18:51
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My Lovely Horse posted:New episode! I doubt it's that she just cares about shoes and hair, and more that she realizes that ravishing his beautiful queen-of-thieves lover in a castle tower on an enormous red silk mattress on her extremely long and flowing locks is basically what Elan's entirely life has been aspiring to, and she likes doing things for him. I also like that Elan never questioned the haircut, cause his entire worldview is based on narrative structure.
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SlimGoodbody posted:I also like that Elan never questioned the haircut, cause his entire worldview is based on narrative structure.
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But I thought the dramatic convention was that the girl has to be traumatized by the loss of her hair and overcome it later. This is like double lampshading what's going on here! Although I guess this does highlight Haley's opportunism. First brush the minor inconvenience aside, but take an opportunity to improve things. Fine, that works.
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You know, liking to look good and dress in attractive clothing isn't a "girly" thing, nor is it a bad thing. Most people feel that way.
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I think I can shove some more in.  Goddamn Elan, that dashing rogue class you picked up's starting to effect your dialog.
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Cuchulain posted:I think I can shove some more in. Knowing Elan, I doubt that was intentional.
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That... is a ridiculous amount of hair. The thought of laying on all that hair and then trying to sit up - let alone engage in the making of the beast with two backs - makes my scalp hurt.
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Pope Guilty posted:You know, liking to look good and dress in attractive clothing isn't a "girly" thing, nor is it a bad thing. Most people feel that way. You forget you're talking to internet people, who are renowned for practically needing a chart to explain why bathing, shaving, and changing your clothes are necessary. Vicissitude posted:Knowing Elan, I doubt that was intentional. I don't know, Elan and Haley tend to have some pretty good sex banter. Elan's not the sharpest knife in the "life skills" drawer, but wordplay and double entendre are his bread and butter.
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quote:You know, liking to look good and dress in attractive clothing isn't a "girly" thing, nor is it a bad thing. Most people feel that way. 
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