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Pththya-lyi posted:His name is Baron Papanoida and he's the Chairman of the Pantoran Assembly. Baron Papanoida is an anagram of Paranoia And Bop. Interpret that as you will.
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:I think KOTOR was cut to make way for the bad Old Republic tie in comic. Can't have the kids getting confused now can we? KOTOR was a tie in comic too, and written by the same guy as is writing the new one. In this case I'm giving him a chance. Also, the decision wouldn't have been about confusion. From a marketing POV, milking a common name is pretty great. That's why you've got so many different X-Men titles out there. It's more about there only being so much appetite for Star Wars in comic form. Total sales plateau after there are about three or four monthly titles being released simultaneously. It's the bad Clone Wars tie-in comic that's the problem. yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Oct 17, 2010 |
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I feel like introducing some of the personalities of the political subforums of theforce.net, just for fun. Scroll past if you don't care.Master_SweetPea posted:Due Process is when someone is accused of a crime. Here's Kimball Kinneson, an ex-moderator with a penchant for explaining his Mormon beliefs and his divorce. Kimball Kinneson posted:A strict party line vote would have been if you had 0 Republicans on one side and 0 Democrats on the other side for the vote. That only happened in one vote (the Senate vote on HR 3590). In every other vote on the Health Care Reform issue, the Republicans were part of a bipartisan group of Representatives and Senators opposed to it. Yep, guy still "signs" his posts. In 2010. But, nonetheless, he is one of their "moderate" conservatives. Then there is his brother, Smuggy, as some call him... JediSmuggler posted:And the left side of the aisle hasn't been trying to use the race card (or sexism or claims of bigotry against homosexuals) to silence debate as well? The use of the race card is intended to silence debate. Rather than make the case for Obama's version of health care, people like Janean Garafolo and yourself have all but thrown the race card out there instead. JediSmuggler posted:Let's look at the "falsely accusing" part: In the alleged barrage of N-words, at least two videos have disputed the version of events set forth by members of the Congressional Black Caucus. Since the dust-up last month, some more videos have emerged, none of which support the claims made by Andre Carson and John Lewis. Congressman Cleaver's claim the Capitol Police arrested a protester who spat on him was disputed by the Capitol Police at the time - and he has, by my understanding, disavowed the claim he was spat on. There is only one conclusion: They have lied about the incident in question. FreedomWorks has also reported on a smear campaign being waged against a Republican lawmaker in Arkansas.
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Angry Midwesterner posted:I feel like introducing some of the personalities of the political subforums of theforce.net, just for fun. Scroll past if you don't care. Is it the simplistic black-and-white/good guys vs. bad guys nature of Star Wars that attracts these kind of people?
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mojo1701a posted:Is it the simplistic black-and-white/good guys vs. bad guys nature of Star Wars that attracts these kind of people? That's the popular hypothesis. Add an increased likelihood of poor socialisation (neckbeard shut-in variety), and you have a perfect recipe for well-reasoned political discussion.
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Hey a excuse to post the website of the crazy guy who wrote the old Lando novels http://www.lneilsmith.org/ Abraham Palpatine quote:The American Lenin
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mojo1701a posted:Is it the simplistic black-and-white/good guys vs. bad guys nature of Star Wars that attracts these kind of people?
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mojo1701a posted:Is it the simplistic black-and-white/good guys vs. bad guys nature of Star Wars that attracts these kind of people? Can't be. Traviss if anything bent the morality lines the hardest in her novels, and I think it's her fans who generally get accused of wacky politics. But really the posted TFN excerpts are pretty tame. It's wildly right-wing by SA standards, but SA needs to get out more.
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Nckdictator posted:Hey a excuse to post the website of the crazy guy who wrote the old Lando novels Not to turn this into a political debate, but he's not all wrong in that article. I still like him and his books
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Der Luftwaffle posted:Not to turn this into a political debate, but he's not all wrong in that article.
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Casimir Radon posted:The Lando trilogy is still good though. "Outside, a braid of raspberry red, lemon yellow, and orange orange twisted through the heavens, across a constellation the locals called the Silly Rabbit"
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# ? Oct 17, 2010 20:28 |
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There's no Jedi, no Sith, No Mandolorians, and no emo bullshit. It's just Lando flying around being awesome.
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Casimir Radon posted:There's no Jedi, no Sith, No Mandolorians, and no emo bullshit. It's just Lando flying around being awesome. Point taken; that's why I love those pulpy,old Han Solo books.
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The last thing I saw of L. Niel Smith's was an alternate history webcomic where Texas remained an independent country/libertarian utopia because they won the battle of the Alamo and as a result they expanded into the southwest and so were able to claim the technology of the Roswell crash and use it to fight against evil socialist Mexicans and communist New Englanders, and there were also lots of naked women. It was basically what a teenager just exposed to Ayn Rand and Ron Paul would fantasize about, it made Liberality For All and Orson Scott Card's Empire seem like nuanced political satire by comparison. It was just embarrassing. That out of the way - so would those of you who read it recommend Knight Errant? I liked the KOTOR comic for most of its run, but I really thought for a long stretch in the middle it was kind of meandering and plotless. And since from what I hear, the plot of Knight Errant is basically similar in structure to the middle of KOTOR (a single wandering Jedi on the run doing good deeds with smuggler friends while running from Dark Jedi during a war) it makes me a bit nervous.
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This is a guy who's so libertarian he thinks the Articles of Confederation are better than the Constitution which he considered fascistic. He wrote another book about a parallel universe where George Washington was executed for trying to put down the Whiskey Rebellion, and then gorillas demanded equal rights . I'm pretty sure the Alamo one had the Lindbergh baby as president of Texas, and made a bunch of excuses for his dad's Hitler sympathies.
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Chairman Capone posted:That out of the way - so would those of you who read it recommend Knight Errant? I liked the KOTOR comic for most of its run, but I really thought for a long stretch in the middle it was kind of meandering and plotless. And since from what I hear, the plot of Knight Errant is basically similar in structure to the middle of KOTOR (a single wandering Jedi on the run doing good deeds with smuggler friends while running from Dark Jedi during a war) it makes me a bit nervous. To be fair there is only one issue so far. The plot isn't them running around doing good deeds, it's a plot with her trying to survive in a galaxy overrun with Sith warlords and the Republic is a small, ever shrinking portion of space. It takes place about 30 years before the whole Jedi vs. Sith, Darth Bane events. The main character is a member of a Jedi raid on a mining planet. The raid goes horribly wrong when a rival Sith Lord shows up to destroy much of the planet. The main character throws a monkey wrench into this Sith's plans but everyone else gets killed. It ends with her coming to in the rubble and being told she's the only Jedi left. The next 5 issues seem to be about her taking out the guy who killed her master and allies. I honestly felt it was better written than The Old Republic, the MMO tie in, but then again it's only the first issue. The plot of Old Republic really doesn't make any sense and it is hard to follow at times. Also, The treaty is never broken and Shan goes on to be Grand Master of the Jedi Order. This has already been established apparently. EDIT: I really kind of ignore most sci-fi authors as opinionated people. As long as their politics aren't so overtly apparent, I usually can ignore them. For instance I enjoy The Moon is a Harsh Mistress but I'm very far from libertarian. RocknRollaAyatollah fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Oct 17, 2010 |
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Heinlein wasn't crazy yet when he wrote that. Most of his later stuff is however unreadable poo poo where he rambles on for chapters about vague concepts and nothing of meaning ever happens.
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Also when he gets fixated on what a great idea it would be if twelve year old girls seduced their fathers.
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# ? Oct 17, 2010 23:38 |
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Most science fiction writers seem to end up being really weird or human cesspools. Sometimes they start out normal and go down hill or other times where they just start out crazy and fall farther. Look at Orson Scott Card.
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He was raised Mormon, never had a chance.
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Casimir Radon posted:This is a guy who's so libertarian he thinks the Articles of Confederation are better than the Constitution which he considered fascistic. He wrote another book about a parallel universe where George Washington was executed for trying to put down the Whiskey Rebellion, and then gorillas demanded equal rights . I'm pretty sure the Alamo one had the Lindbergh baby as president of Texas, and made a bunch of excuses for his dad's Hitler sympathies. In the Roswell, TX continuity, Hitler himself ended up leaving the Nazis, moving to Texas, becoming a famous muralist, and having a daughter who grew up to be an even more famous sculptor and President of Texas. The most untoward thing he ever did was get drunk at his daughter's inauguration and embarrass himself.
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Casimir Radon posted:There's no Jedi, no Sith, No Mandolorians, and no emo bullshit. It's just Lando flying around being awesome. Awesome.
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Pththya-lyi posted:In the Roswell, TX continuity, Hitler himself ended up leaving the Nazis, moving to Texas, becoming a famous muralist, and having a daughter who grew up to be an even more famous sculptor and President of Texas. The most untoward thing he ever did was get drunk at his daughter's inauguration and embarrass himself. For Godsakes man, I need the name of this book!
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Rough Lobster posted:For Godsakes man, I need the name of this book! EDIT: Also for some reason all the Nazi's are horrible gay stereotypes. Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Oct 18, 2010 |
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Nckdictator posted:Abraham Palpatine It's really hard for me to want to go and reread his old Lando books when he's writing poo poo like this.
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Nucleic Acids posted:It's really hard for me to want to go and reread his old Lando books when he's writing poo poo like this. Luckily you get to choose whether you care more about the story or the storyteller. I've always been at about a 100/0 story/storyteller ratio and so I can argue that the Republic Commando books were great while acknowledging Traviss' stupidity and later failures in the franchise. Just choose not to care about real world factors; sci fi books are supposed to be an escapist experience anyway.
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mojo1701a posted:Is it the simplistic black-and-white/good guys vs. bad guys nature of Star Wars that attracts these kind of people? Seems pretty obvious that it does. Complicating things (like politics) with shades of grey and different perspectives is for human being Libera--I mean, cowardly Sith.
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Casimir Radon posted:Heinlein wasn't crazy yet when he wrote that. Most of his later stuff is however unreadable poo poo where he rambles on for chapters about vague concepts and nothing of meaning ever happens. Have you read For Us the Living? Heinlein's first novel written in 1938. He never wanted it to be published. It more or less shows that he didn't really go crazy, he was kind of always crazy. I still really like him. Kind of hard not to, he was too big a part of my childhood. mojo1701a posted:Is it the simplistic black-and-white/good guys vs. bad guys nature of Star Wars that attracts these kind of people? Lord of the Rings has a white supremacist following. Fantasy worlds tend to appeal to people with extreme non-mainstream views. It's like if a bunch of flat earth people got really into Discworld. The world is constructed (or can be construed) so that they're right. There is objective good and evil in both and in the case of LotR, the evil is a different race. Captain von Trapp posted:Can't be. Traviss if anything bent the morality lines the hardest in her novels, and I think it's her fans who generally get accused of wacky politics. I think Traviss gets a pass because of the strong military themes. That leads to a lot of support from the same people who thought Starship Troopers was good model for society. In case anyone is confused, I'm pretty sure Heinlein thought of Starship Troopers as at least somewhat dystopian. If you've only seen the movie, he probably would have thought the movie version of human society was fascist and horrible.
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What the gently caress happened to this thread? This is one thread where I can get away from my constant anger at crazy right wingers. You guys are ruining it!
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What the gently caress happened to this thread? This is one thread where I can get away from my constant anger at crazy right wingers. You guys are ruining it! Yeah, not everyone on the right end of the spectrum is nuts. Talk about Star Wars, not Glenn Beck
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Faerunner posted:Yeah, not everyone on the right end of the spectrum is nuts. Talk about Star Wars, not Glenn Beck Shhhhhh you'll stir up D&D
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Mister Roboto posted:Baron Papanoida is an anagram of Paranoia And Bop. I always saw it as a way to call him the father (papa) of all nerds (noid). Edit: Heh. According to the discussion page, his Wookieepedia entry once stated that the name stood for "Papa no idea." I like it. Dave Syndrome fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Oct 18, 2010 |
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Dave Syndrome posted:I always saw it as a way to call him the father (papa) of all nerds (noid). Avoid the noid, he ruins movie franchises!
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Mister Roboto posted:Seems pretty obvious that it does. Complicating things (like politics) with shades of grey and different perspectives is for human being Libera--I mean, cowardly Sith. Not a lot of gray in that opinion either, no? The great strength of the moral view of the original Star Wars films is not that it's black/white or entirely gray. There's good and evil, but there's also aspects of the story that are more complicated. The strength is that the movie isn't trying to sell us a moral framework at all - it simply tells a story. One of the places where the prequels come off the rails is where it tries to make that kind of a sell in both directions at once: Obi-Wan: "Only Sith believe in absolutes!" Anakin: "Well actually there's shades of gray and my perspective is more complicated..." Obi-Wan: "You're absolutely wrong!"
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Thought I'd post some more of Fractalsponge's attemtps to model one of the Dark Empire ships. Sum total of his references: (The ship on the right, about halfway down) What he's done so far (click for big): Click here for the full 1600x360 image. Click here for the full 1024x420 image. Click here for the full 1024x768 image. [EDIT] On an unrelated note, I've thought of a brilliant Halloween costume idea that somehow combines these items: Click here for the full 378x840 image. Captain Splendid fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Oct 18, 2010 |
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I wish the stories from the comics were as interesting as their art.
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That cruiser is pretty well designed, they actually partially covered those shield generators.
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:That cruiser is pretty well designed, they actually partially covered those shield generators. They're not shield generators, they're communication towers. The timing of that line in Return of the Jedi is coincidental.
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Chaos Hippy posted:They're not shield generators, they're communication towers. The timing of that line in Return of the Jedi is coincidental. According to the old Essential Guide to Vehicles they're the deflector shield generators. The communication tower is the bar between them in the center of the command tower.
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The X-Wing and Tie Fighter series' agree
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