|
Casimir Radon posted:The X-Wing and Tie Fighter series' agree Rogue Squadron, too.
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 04:52
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 15, 2024 05:38 |
|
|
I saw Abyss in the Local Library, I was tempted to rent it out for the week and read it but I read the blurb on the inside jacket where it gave away 2/3rds of the plot in a paragraph causing my eyes to glaze over but then I saw that Troy Denning wrote it so I stuck the drat thing back. I wish the current post OT EU was drat appealing now but it such a boring mess. This was the one where they revealed Force Cthulu right? And when did books start telling us half the story on the inside jacket and back?
|
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 10:19
|
|
|
Abyss is the third book right? I think that's the one with mind drinkers and shadow walking or whatever it's called. Was very bored with this book, I hated the luke/ben story and the coruscant part was only mildly entertaining. The only awesome part was at the end when Luke kills vestara's master. Also, one thing that bothers me about this series: Are Luke and Ben ever going to use the things they've learned? I understand if Ben doesn't use flow walking, but jesus christ Luke has the ability to teleport organic things. I feel like he could have used that more than a few times already, and it hasn't even been spoken of since. As it stands currently, The Luke/Ben story is kinda starting to bore, but I'm really interested in what's going to happen with the jedi temple on coruscant in the next book.
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 16:22
|
|
|
RocknRollaAyatollah posted:According to the old Essential Guide to Vehicles they're the deflector shield generators. The communication tower is the bar between them in the center of the command tower. This is one of the spergier arguments that I've personally gotten into, but it basically just comes down to the fact that people misinterpreted the original scene. The globes on the top of the Star Destroyer's bridge were originally meant to be radomes like those on the top of the bridges of modern-day warships. Even the model makers and production designers referred to them as such. The problem arises during the scene where immediately following the destruction of one of the radomes, an Imperial bridge officer exclaims "The bridge deflector shields are down!" The original intent was that the radomes were vulnerable because the deflector shields were down, not because they themselves WERE the deflector shields. After all, the shields were weakened by the entire Rebel fleet opening up on the Super Star Destroyer, and so once the small fighters started taking out the more fragile pieces of their ship, the Imperials would realize the shields were down. Plus it's retarded that the shield generators wouldn't be protected by the shield they're generating. Like I said, though, the scene was misinterpreted as to meaning that destroying the globes takes down the shields. So it appeared in video games as a way for tiny fighters to take out the massive destroyer, and it appeared in reference books and technical manuals and novels and etc. etc. until now it's pretty much canon that the radomes are actually shield generators. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/ edit: Again, because they weren't originally supposed to be shield generators, but instead radar/sensor globes, which would make sense to place all over your ship. Mecha Gojira fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Oct 19, 2010 |
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 16:46
|
|
|
In regards to the shield generators, how come the Star Destroyers shield generators we exposed at almost all angles, but you can't find them easily on Mon Calamari ships? I remember them being noted as not as heavily armed, but being more shielded than their Imperial counterparts.
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 16:48
|
|
|
I guess aliens are smart enough to put their shields and command centers inside their ships instead of sitting out there in the open for everyone to shoot at.
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 17:18
|
|
|
So I'm reading a blog unrelated to SW and the author added this quote:George Lucas posted:“You simply have to put one foot in front of the other and keep going. Put blinders on and plow right ahead.” That explains so much. In case anyone cares, the link is http://thoughtcatalog.com/2010/recorded-live-before-a-paid-studio-audience/
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 18:05
|
|
|
You know, now that I'm thinking about it, it might actually be a neat concept for a SW-esque sci-fi universe to require that shield generators can never be inside a shield. That'd basically define naval tactics for that universe. Of course, it'd have to be a universal thing for it to work, but authors could have all sorts of spergy fun devising tactics and counter-tactics. Back in Star Wars, I'm of the opinion that the things on Star Destroyers are "really" scanner globes, and not shield generators. They were made into shield generators purely as a videogame contrivance, to give the player characters half a chance. Sort of like how in TIE Fighter you'd have to take six or seven direct hits before your own TIE would be destroyed, whereas in the movies I don't think we ever saw one survive even a glancing blow. Of course, we also saw plenty of X-Wings and Y-wings blow up from one hit, so make of that what you will..
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 18:09
|
|
|
Powered Descent posted:Of course, we also saw plenty of X-Wings and Y-wings blow up from one hit, so make of that what you will.. The implication in the movies for the trench run is that the X and Y wings had their shields on full forward to protect from the turbo lasers in the trench.
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 18:24
|
|
|
Weren't the tracking mechanisms on the Death Star based batteries to slow to hit the X wings anyway?
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 19:04
|
|
|
The turbolasers were fast enough to hit Porkins. (INSERT FAT JOKE HERE)
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 19:20
|
|
|
Not Star Wars but George Lucas related: I watched THX1138 the other day. It loving sucked. Lucas loving sucks. Edit for Star Wars: quote:Of course, we also saw plenty of X-Wings and Y-wings blow up from one hit, so make of that what you will..
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 19:32
|
|
|
Is there a reliable timeline for the episodes in The Clone Wars?
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 19:45
|
|
|
DarthJon posted:Is there a reliable timeline for the episodes in The Clone Wars? Not in the least. Lucasfilm has said they aren't even going to think about it until the series is over, which can only result in the whole thing coming out as a barely coherent mess. I know, big surprise, right? http://www.darkhorse.com/Help/Boards/viewtopic.php?t=13886&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=101
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 21:01
|
|
|
The2ndQuest on TFN has been making an updated potential timeline for the series after the new episodes air. Putting them in the order which makes the most sense based on episode content and some other outside SW sources: (story arc titles are unofficial designations) (Production ###/Airing ###) Christophsis Arc -217/216: Cat and Mouse -201/116: The Hidden Enemy -118/TCW: The New Padawan -101/TCW: Castle of Doom -103/TCW: Castle of Deception -104/TCW: Castle of Salvation Ambush Duology -224/303: Supply Lines -108/101: Ambush Droid Duology -102/106: Downfall of a Droid -106/107: Duel of the Droids Malevolence Trilogy -107/102: Rising Malevolence -109/103: Shadow of Malevolence -111/104: Destroy Malevolence Nute Trilogy -105/108: Bombad Jedi -110/109: Cloak of Darkness -112/110: Lair of Grievous Clone Trilogy -301/301: Clone Cadets -114/105: Rookies -302/302: ARC Troopers* Dooku Duology -116/111: Dooku Captured -120/112: The Gungan General Ryloth Trilogy -115/119: Storm Over Ryloth -117/120: Innocents of Ryloth -119/121: Liberty on Ryloth Maridun Duology -122/113: Jedi Crash -124/114: Defenders of Peace Virus Duology -126/117: Blue Shadow Virus -202/118: Mystery of a Thousand Moons Stand Alone -125/115: Trespass Holocron Arc -219/217: Bounty Hunters -204/122: Hostage Crisis -123/201: Holocron Heist -113/202: Cargo of Doom -203/203: Children of the Force Geonosis Arc -205/204: Senate Spy -207/205: Landing at Point Rain -208/206: Weapons Factory -209/207: Legacy of Terror -212/208: Brain Invaders Saleucami Arc -211/211: Lightsaber Lost -214/209: Grievous Intrigue -206/210: The Deserter Mandalorian Trilogy -213/212: The Mandalore Plot -121/213: Voyage of Temptation -216/214: Duchess of Mandalore Stand Alones -225/304: Sphere of Influence -210/215: Senate Murders Zillo Duology -222/218: The Zillo Beast -223/219: The Zillo Beast Strikes Back Boba Fett Trilogy -215/220: Death Trap -218/221: R2 Come Home -220/222: Lethal Trackdown Corruption Duology -304/305: Corruption -226/306: The Academy *takes place at an undefined time afterwards
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2010 22:14
|
|
|
Pope Mobile posted:Not Star Wars but George Lucas related: I watched THX1138 the other day. It loving sucked. Lucas loving sucks.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 03:19
|
|
|
Casimir Radon posted:I watched the special edition a few years ago and all the changes seemed subtle enough that there was no reason to bitch about them? I'm talking about the movie itself. I fell asleep three times.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 03:21
|
|
|
Star Wars: Infinities So people have read these, right? They weren't written very well, but the concepts had potential. I wonder why prequel versions were never made? They are full of more material like that. Episode 1: What if Obi-Wan died and Qui-Gon lived? Episode 2: What if it didn't suck? Episode 3: Pretty much every event going a different way would change the SW universe, from Yoda dying to Anakin winning to Palpatine losing.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 03:52
|
|
|
I have ANH and empire infinites, but I don't remember what the "what if" for the ROTJ one was.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 03:55
|
|
|
Mister Roboto posted:I wonder why prequel versions were never made? They are full of more material like that. See the one labeled "What if it Didn't Suck" this would be a great reason not to publish an Infinities anthology for the prequel trilogy. If the original material disappoints core fans, its probably not best to give them a taste of what could have been. On the other hand, I would love a "What if Anakin Skywalker became an Intergalactic Pod-Racing Champion?"
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 03:55
|
|
|
Der Luftwaffle posted:I guess aliens are smart enough to put their shields and command centers inside their ships instead of sitting out there in the open for everyone to shoot at. Which is why a brainwashed A-Wing pilot blew the poo poo out of the bridge in one of the Wraith Squadron books? 
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 04:08
|
|
|
Mister Roboto posted:Star Wars: Infinities There actually was a "What If Anakin Won" scenario in the RotS video game. The answer is "he kills Palpatine and takes over."
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 04:26
|
|
|
Torael_7 posted:Which is why a brainwashed A-Wing pilot blew the poo poo out of the bridge in one of the Wraith Squadron books? Revised: They don't put them on big ol' towers for everyone to shoot at.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 04:29
|
|
|
Sometimes they do. Granted there are more than one and only one of them is the actual bridge, but it's still sticking out there like a sore thumb, and I'm pretty sure it's the biggest and most obvious one.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 04:42
|
|
|
Torael_7 posted:Which is why a brainwashed A-Wing pilot blew the poo poo out of the bridge in one of the Wraith Squadron books? I thought this was because the shields of the ship in question were'nt up at this point, especially since they were in the middle of nowhere (effectively) and had just launched a bunch of their own fighters. We're talking about Solo Command, yeah? That book was fantastic! 
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 05:44
|
|
|
Flagrant Abuse posted:Sometimes they do. ...I've had it with all these Star Wars.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 06:31
|
|
|
Not A Bear posted:I thought this was because the shields of the ship in question were'nt up at this point, especially since they were in the middle of nowhere (effectively) and had just launched a bunch of their own fighters. We're talking about Solo Command, yeah? That book was fantastic! Der Luftwaffle posted:Revised: They don't put them on big ol' towers for everyone to shoot at. I was actually referring to command centers specifically. Courtship of Princess Leia talks about how great the view from the bridge is in the first few pages, too.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 06:34
|
|
|
The notion that the globes are communication towers and not shield generators flies in the face of 30 years of star wars knowledge. Can you find evidence that says they were meant to be communications towers?
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 09:03
|
|
|
It's always been my understanding that the domes were communication equipment, and their being destroyed was intended to show that the shields were down because missile weapons were now impacting the ship's structure. Of course, all the games used them as shield generators to make space combat possible.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 09:09
|
|
|
Aw, how nice.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 14:45
|
|
|
Otterspace posted:The notion that the globes are communication towers and not shield generators flies in the face of 30 years of star wars knowledge. Can you find evidence that says they were meant to be communications towers? Somebody noticed that fans were arguing about this, so they decided to canonically make the globes be both shield generators AND sensors! That'll please everyone, right? http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/ISD-72x_deflector_shield_generator_dome Unrelated: What the hell happened to wookieepedia's page layout? Suddenly it's all retarded.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 18:39
|
|
|
Otterspace posted:The notion that the globes are communication towers and not shield generators flies in the face of 30 years of star wars knowledge. Can you find evidence that says they were meant to be communications towers? Here's the other side of the argument. It's important to note that they're not supposed to be communication towers, but radar domes. quote:We're also still working on the sequence where Mad Max crashes his A-wing into Vader's ship and causes the star destroyer to lose control and crash into the Deathstar. The penetration shot with the mushroom-cloud explosion we've had for some time, and we've got the shot where the ship's been hit and is starting to heel over. A very large explosion is coming out of the bridge area and it's causing several others to go as well; and one of the big radar domes up on top has been blown away, and that's spewing flames. It's pretty spectacular. Between that sort of closeup of the bridge section and the long-shot of the surface, we need two more cuts of the ship continuing to heel over and dropping towards the Deathstar like an arrow. We've shot a number of elements on those - explosions and things that have to be projected onto the miniatures - and so they're pretty much ready to go. Don Dow will be shooting those tomorrow.  The original intent was that they were supposed to be radomes. It's just that now, yeah, canonically speaking they're both. Which is retarded. Why would your shield generators not be protected by your shields? Why would you place them in such a way that would make them highly vulnerable. Sensor globes just make more sense.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2010 19:18
|
|
|
Powered Descent posted:Unrelated: What the hell happened to wookieepedia's page layout? Suddenly it's all retarded.
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2010 08:59
|
|
|
40 Star Wars Stories That Should Be Movies http://www.totalfilm.com/features/40-star-wars-stories-that-should-be-movies No one is going to like #38
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2010 17:45
|
|
|
Bonzo posted:40 Star Wars Stories That Should Be Movies Good God, I'm only up to #3, and they've all been bad ideas so far. edit: Although, I would see #4.
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2010 17:49
|
|
|
Bonzo posted:40 Star Wars Stories That Should Be Movies The Great Heap? Of all things the Great loving Heap? This list is loving terrible.
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2010 17:54
|
|
|
That list really is the worst. They basically just listed every Star Wars EU story they had heard of, and when they couldn't think of all of them, they started using fan vids. Just terrible.
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2010 17:58
|
|
|
I counted three on that list that I'd actually like to see movies of: 11 (Jedi Twilight), 20 (Republic Commando; the Xbox version, not the KT version), and 23 (Rogue Squadron). The rest just boggle the mind, aside from maybe Dark Forces.
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2010 19:57
|
|
|
I especially like how several items on the "ought to be movies" list are movies.
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2010 20:19
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 15, 2024 05:38 |
|
|
Of that list, the only one that I could really see actually being made and working as a good Star Wars movie is Heir to the Empire. I don't think that an EU work has to be in the mold of a movie for it to be good, but I just think that the structure and tone of the Thrawn Trilogy were one of the few EU works that really felt like I was reading/watching a Star Wars movie. It also might have something to do with the fact that it was essentially a blank slate working entirely off of the movies rather than modern EU works which are basically just giant Wookieepedia entries relating to other works. (Yes, I know Zahn included stuff from the WEG games which in turn used stuff from Marvel and the Han Solo books, but still)
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2010 21:44
|
|
