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Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

RustedChrome posted:

I'm done with clones. I found my rangefinder nirvana.


:getout:

jealous

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Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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It may not have a rangefinder, but I chanced upon a little viewfinder camera the other day.



:effort: pic there, sorry

Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Oct 22, 2010

RustedChrome
Jun 10, 2007

"do not hold the camera obliquely, or the world will seem to be on an inclined plane."

Paul MaudDib posted:

It may not have a rangefinder, but I chanced upon a little viewfinder camera the other day.



:effort: pic there, sorry

Those are so cool. If I ever see one selling at a decent price I know I won't resist even though I don't need any more film cameras.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Paul MaudDib posted:

It may not have a rangefinder, but I chanced upon a little viewfinder camera the other day.



:effort: pic there, sorry

There was a guy selling one on APUG for $100 because the slow speeds were off and it had some other minor problem; I was so close to buying it but realistically I know I don't *need* it. They're amazingly small little guys.

pwn
May 27, 2004

This Christmas get "Shoes"









:pwn: :pwn: :pwn: :pwn: :pwn:

Pompous Rhombus posted:

There was a guy selling one on APUG for $100 because the slow speeds were off and it had some other minor problem; I was so close to buying it but realistically I know I don't *need* it. They're amazingly small little guys.
I bet you can get the elusive 40th frame with one of those.

FasterThanLight
Mar 26, 2003

HPL posted:

I have come to the conclusion that the Fed-2 is the best Russian rangefinder ever.
I'm partial to the Kiev (not-a-tumah edition) myself. The rangefinder base is so long, I can still get decent focus wide open without glasses/contacts.

vv All good points. The grip took a LONG time to get used to, but now actually I kinda like it. Being able to hold the camera and focus with one hand is a nice feature to have with a two year old clinging to you. And I've wondered many times how difficult it would be to mod the winder knob into something a little easier.

FasterThanLight fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Oct 22, 2010

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

FasterThanLight posted:

I'm partial to the Kiev (not-a-tumah edition) myself. The rangefinder base is so long, I can still get decent focus wide open without glasses/contacts.

The ergonomics of the Kiev are horrible though. I agree that it is a very smooth-operating camera and all, but I don't like having to use the "claw of death" grip and I don't like the way the focus helicoid locks at infinity. The film winding knob is also annoying in that it's too flat and flush to the camera body.

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.
I had a Zorki 4 for a while but I never really cared for it all that much. Plus the confusing operation and lousy build quality made me want to avoid taking it out on serious shoots. I eventually gave it away and got something else. The difference between that and a real quality rangefinder is pretty staggering.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
The Fed-2 is good because it's sort of like the best of the Zorki/Fed series combined with the best of the Kiev series. I don't know why everything seemed to regress after that.

Personally, I prefer to use 70s/80s SLRs for film work, but rangefinders are fun for a change of pace.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007
I WANT TO BUY A RANGEFINDER

VoodooXT
Feb 24, 2006
I want Tong Po! Give me Tong Po!

Pompous Rhombus posted:

I WANT TO BUY A RANGEFINDER

I don't know about you guys, but I probably had the hardest laugh on the day. Completely loving dead-on. :lol:

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Bleah, I need to buy a proper film scanner. My cheap photo scanner basically gives me just monochrome images from negatives.

Should I be buying one of the $200 models, or would the $95 Epson be fine?

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/category/scanners/21199.aspx?path=6162d08959e779d7a2759da18df02e27en01

Rednik
Apr 10, 2005


Honestly, even the $200 scanners for film aren't that great. I have an Epson V500 and I don't like it much compared to the V700 scanners at the university labs.

Rednik fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Oct 23, 2010

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Ah good to know.

Film processing to CD at the local drug store is so drat cheap here, but it's a shame they'll only produce NTSC-quality scans. The professional developers charge 20x as much for higher resolution scans. I figured I could just go with the cheap processing and scan myself. I don't want boxes of prints to throw out.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Rednik posted:

Honestly, even the $200 scanners for film aren't that great. I have an Epson V500 and I don't like it much compared to the V700 scanners at the university labs.

What software are they using on the V700? I use Epson Scan at home on my V500 and it's fine, but the V750's at work use Silverfast. I get that Silverfast is a more powerful program, but it seems way more of a pain in the rear end. Just trying to get it to auto-detect the image frames is a nightmare; the program seems to just draw a random quantity of them wherever it feels like, with no regards to the actual image frames. Epson Scan can be fooled by really dark negs, but Silverfast seems to have this problem with everything. I usually wind up inserting an empty 35mm slide scanning tray, then re-sizing those boxes to fit my images, since there doesn't seem to be a "create image frames" option. Then you have to individually select each frame and change the resolution/etc. Maybe I'm being thick, but I see no obvious way to automate that stuff :confused:

Sushi in Yiddish
Feb 2, 2008

I made the trip out to Chicago this week, and goddamn was it fun to see Central Camera. Right underneath a clanking elevated rail station in the heart of the town, full of old cameras. The prices were high, as expected but it was good to see an old fashioned camera store still kicking around. Can't wait to send the kodachromes in to Dwayne's.

Pompous Rhombus posted:

I WANT TO BUY A RANGEFINDER

Anyone who quotes advice from Ken Rockwell is CLEARLY an expert

Sushi in Yiddish fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Oct 23, 2010

Rednik
Apr 10, 2005


Pompous Rhombus posted:

What software are they using on the V700? I use Epson Scan at home on my V500 and it's fine, but the V750's at work use Silverfast. I get that Silverfast is a more powerful program, but it seems way more of a pain in the rear end. Just trying to get it to auto-detect the image frames is a nightmare; the program seems to just draw a random quantity of them wherever it feels like, with no regards to the actual image frames. Epson Scan can be fooled by really dark negs, but Silverfast seems to have this problem with everything. I usually wind up inserting an empty 35mm slide scanning tray, then re-sizing those boxes to fit my images, since there doesn't seem to be a "create image frames" option. Then you have to individually select each frame and change the resolution/etc. Maybe I'm being thick, but I see no obvious way to automate that stuff :confused:

They use Epson scan, I believe. I've had no issues with it and haven't felt the need to even bother with Silverfast.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

So... how about Canon? :D

m4mbo
Oct 22, 2006

Hey guys, I'm a bit of a printing newbie and I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice. I've shot a college project on 6x7, essentially the look I was going for really should have been shot on large format. I finished my final print, was happy with it, then looked at my plans and the photographers I was trying to emulate and realised I was out of my mind and it was poo poo. I'd produced a crisp clean portrait when I wanted a lo-fi feel.

I tried blurring in camera using long exposures but it didn't really have the right look, so I chose a sharper negative to print.

I was wondering A) how you would go about selectively blurring in an analogue darkroom and B) what I might do during the printing process to make my final print more closely resemble the works of (rather an odd mix) Paolo Roversi, Julia Margaret Cameron and Joel Peter Witkin.

I've been printing on to pearl 10x12

here is a scan of the neg I am using


Click here for the full 945x1102 image.


any advice would really be appreciated.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

What made you associate lo-fi and large format? :confused:

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

m4mbo posted:

I was wondering A) how you would go about selectively blurring in an analogue darkroom

Get a sheet of acetate, plexiglass, or whatever, apply Vasoline to the upper side, and place it over the paper when you're printing on the enlarger. You can also experiment with putting the paper at an angle (versus perfectly flat/perpendicular to the lens), and get some blurring effects from the uneven focal plane.

m4mbo
Oct 22, 2006

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Get a sheet of acetate, plexiglass, or whatever, apply Vasoline to the upper side, and place it over the paper when you're printing on the enlarger. You can also experiment with putting the paper at an angle (versus perfectly flat/perpendicular to the lens), and get some blurring effects from the uneven focal plane.

Ooh, that sounds exciting. I'll def get some acetate, I was thinking of using that to fake a scratched negative too by applying some tipex or something... Thanks :)

evil_bunnY Maybe lo-fi isn't the word I'm looking for, what I mean is those pictures that have very very shallow DOF, and the blurriness often seen in Roversi's work. Am I completely off track here?

Edit: How can I make the edges of the acetate not show up? I want a non blurred bit on the face and before when I've been printing contacts, the contact glass edge leaves a line...

Double edit: I've just realized how dense that question above is, never mind.

m4mbo fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Oct 23, 2010

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Get a sheet of acetate, plexiglass, or whatever, apply Vasoline to the upper side, and place it over the paper when you're printing on the enlarger.

If you hold it high off the paper, this can also be used to make diffusion burns when using the split filter printing technique. Use it for part (or all) of your #5 filter exposure and your blacks will "glow".

VoodooXT posted:

I don't know about you guys, but I probably had the hardest laugh on the day. Completely loving dead-on. :lol:

The part about the M5 being unforgivable was 100% true. :colbert:

m4mbo
Oct 22, 2006

McMadCow posted:

If you hold it high off the paper, this can also be used to make diffusion burns when using the split filter printing technique. Use it for part (or all) of your #5 filter exposure and your blacks will "glow".




I'll remember that for more advanced darkroom classes! Is split filter the same as split grade printing?

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Well I finally did it, my first test roll of 120 is hanging up in my bathroom drying.

Thanks again to the OP for the great guide on the front page.

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.

m4mbo posted:

I'll remember that for more advanced darkroom classes! Is split filter the same as split grade printing?

Probably. Split filter is the technique of combining 2 different filter grades for your overall exposure. A High number filter is used to control your blacks, and a low # to control your whites. The finished product doesn't necessarily look any different than a single grade of filter, but the dyniamic range is more closely controlled. I did a bigass writeup about it in the print megathread.


EDIT: Writeup here:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3194159&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=2#post367635098

My Flickr Page! :nws:

McMadCow fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Oct 24, 2010

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
Argh. Photo-co's web site doesn't seem to be up anymore. I hope it's a matter of paying the web hosting bill and not that they're out of business.

Bouillon Rube
Aug 6, 2009


I picked up my first 35mm SLR the other day- a Pentax Spotmatic for $10 at a thrift store. Just got my first roll developed:







But several of my shots had some serious issues:




Anyone have an idea of what's going on here? Does this look like an problem with the shutter? Or the film advance?

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Augmented Dickey posted:

I picked up my first 35mm SLR the other day- a Pentax Spotmatic for $10 at a thrift store. Just got my first roll developed:







But several of my shots had some serious issues:




Anyone have an idea of what's going on here? Does this look like an problem with the shutter? Or the film advance?

First one looks like maybe the shutter hanging up (doesn't have the same look as a leader).

Second one appears to be a light leak.

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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Can anyone think of a problem of mixing developer concentrate in glycol instead of water for longer storage life? I read about this on some Pyrocat sites, and it seems like it would also work with other developers. HC-110 syrup is also glycol-based for stability.

Sadi
Jan 18, 2005
SC - Where there are more rednecks than people
Ok, so my dumb rear end miss loaded my RZ67 on a camping trip and the film was put in with the emulsion facing the wrong way. It was 220 so theres not paper that got in the way. What should I expect from developing? (it was color btw) Also I feel pretty loving stupid right now, that film + developing isnt cheap.

I.G.
Oct 10, 2000

Sadi posted:

Ok, so my dumb rear end miss loaded my RZ67 on a camping trip and the film was put in with the emulsion facing the wrong way. It was 220 so theres not paper that got in the way. What should I expect from developing? (it was color btw) Also I feel pretty loving stupid right now, that film + developing isnt cheap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redscale. It will probably be underexposed though.

TheLastManStanding
Jan 14, 2008
Mash Buttons!

I.G. posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redscale. It will probably be underexposed though.

quote:

The technique is considered by some to be part of the lo-fi photography movement, along with use of toy cameras, pinhole cameras, instant cameras, and sprocket hole photography.
The Lomographic Society International has produced a pre-loaded redscale 35mm film, that will fit in all standard 35mm cameras. Because of the nature of the film, shots need to over exposed by one or two stops to achieve correct exposure on developing.
:ughh:

Toy pinhole cameras shooting backwards film that's then cross processed.

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

TheLastManStanding posted:

:ughh:

Toy pinhole cameras shooting backwards film that's then cross processed.

Still less offensive than 90% of all HDR images.

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
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8th-samurai posted:

Still less offensive than 90% of all HDR images.

You know, this is 100% true. I get frustrated with some of my photo-buddies for buying $100 Holga kits but it's still less annoying than 100 eV HDR's.

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

Moist von Lipwig posted:

You know, this is 100% true. I get frustrated with some of my photo-buddies for buying $100 Holga kits but it's still less annoying than 100 eV HDR's.

At least their looking at having fun with photography rather wasting their lives on their computers merging 100 shots to make a turd.

On that note I'm this -><- far away from getting one of those 360 degree spinner cameras, they do look like fun.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

Spedman posted:

On that note I'm this -><- far away from getting one of those 360 degree spinner cameras, they do look like fun.

I hear ya. Majorly tempted on this front too. I want to get a Horizon 202 as well because they look like fun. I've beat back the impulse to buy one because of the Kiev 60 on the way and together with the Arsat 30mm should provide nearly 180 degrees on 6x6 when defished which is more than a Horizon 202 anyway.

Rednik
Apr 10, 2005


HPL posted:

I hear ya. Majorly tempted on this front too. I want to get a Horizon 202 as well because they look like fun. I've beat back the impulse to buy one because of the Kiev 60 on the way and together with the Arsat 30mm should provide nearly 180 degrees on 6x6 when defished which is more than a Horizon 202 anyway.

I think some of the beauty of using the 30mm on 6x6 is potentially being able to crop either the top&bottom or sides in the darkroom and presto! Easy panorama on film.

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
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I'm looking for some good, cheap, colour film. I love shooting slide but I really have only shot 2 or 3 rolls of colour negative film before.

I just dropped off some Portra 160VC so we'll see how that turned out. Any other special colour films out there I should try?

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Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Moist von Lipwig posted:

I'm looking for some good, cheap, colour film. I love shooting slide but I really have only shot 2 or 3 rolls of colour negative film before.

I just dropped off some Portra 160VC so we'll see how that turned out. Any other special colour films out there I should try?

Ektar 100

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