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Does he do any geometry changes? Or just replicate the stock one?
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Z3n posted:Does he do any geometry changes? Or just replicate the stock one? Just a duplication of the stock one, but the added rigidity coming from an all steel frame is really noticeable and allows for faster pickups and better braking input when rolling endos. Also, now that he's put the effort into this it's led at least 3 other people I know of to start making their own frames. I'm sure we'll see some exciting new developments as more and more people start experimenting with the concept!
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Oct 26, 2010 04:14
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Steel is generally a lot less rigid than aluminum. Nevermind that you've got basically a two piece frame now. Is there any actual engineering or proof that what you have is stiffer? Edit: Better braking input from a frame? Okay. n8r fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Oct 26, 2010 |
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Oct 26, 2010 04:46
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Can't say I'd wanna be stunting on a frame that's been cut in half and a seperate part fastened to the front.
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Oct 26, 2010 04:50
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Deeters posted:Come for some basic stunting on a Sportster, stay for the last 30 seconds. To bad, I wanted to see him bust out a sick 12 o'clocker with those silly ape hangers.
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Oct 26, 2010 05:45
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It looks like the crash bars are part of the structure, I'm sure that helps. The paint scheme is pretty cool looking, and thats what stunting is about, right? V I meant it  Who cares if it does flex more, its primary function is to catch your eye, and it does it well.
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Oct 26, 2010 05:48
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Gullous posted:The paint scheme is pretty cool looking, and thats what stunting is about, right? I know you're being facetious, but it really is. Stunting is about showmanship. That's what the crowd wants, yea sure the rider has to have some set of skills, but the audience just wants showmanship. And visuals are part of that. I'm sure there are some bros watching going, "man that frame looks wicked pisser like my loving rockstar monster 3000 energy drink I just mixed with my dad's stash of vodka" and then that bro remembers the stunter with the neon frame and the stunter with the neon frame ropes up all these bros and get's an endorsement to let him buy more energy drink colored frames and then wham bam thank you ma'am he's a MOTHERFUCKING MILLIONAIRE AND THE KEN BLOCK OF STUNTING.
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Oct 26, 2010 14:12
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Serious question, how can I learn to control my bike like that? Find a group of stunters and "apprentice" as it were? Would it be necessary to learn on dirt?
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inolen posted:Also, now that he's put the effort into this it's led at least 3 other people I know of to start making their own frames. I'm sure we'll see some exciting new developments as more and more people start experimenting with the concept! Or exciting new ways for frames to break. I have to say the bike does look sharp, but how come the stunting world hasnt figured out a solution for flattened tanks yet? The rest of the bike is bright and flashy and the tank looks like it was thrown off a mountain, retrieved, and bolted back on.
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Synonamess Botch posted:Serious question, how can I learn to control my bike like that? Find a group of stunters and "apprentice" as it were? Would it be necessary to learn on dirt? Dirt is an easier start than asphalt, that's for sure. A lot of guys seem to recommend picking up 50s and starting with that. If I wanted to really take up stunting I'd definitely try and dig up a little dirtbike to screw around with first, then find a crashed bike to stunt out (or a pre-stunted one).
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Try stunting in the snow: Only $5500 I wonder how much power that transfer case robs...
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Gullous posted:Try stunting in the snow: That would be so much fun. I know a couple guys who have ridden them in the snow and they just love them. I mean just look at it. SUPERSNOWMOTO!  I won't ever get tired of this image 
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Oct 27, 2010 01:24
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Would this be the snow 'busa? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvaoW3pz7Iw&t=14s
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Oct 27, 2010 01:29
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-RxHauGny0&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9RgWyahOa8&feature=player_embedded Last one is most definitely a repost but ah well
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n8r posted:Steel is generally a lot less rigid than aluminum. Nevermind that you've got basically a two piece frame now. Is there any actual engineering or proof that what you have is stiffer? I'm not a fabricator or engineer by any means, but as far as I know, when comparing a piece of steel and the same sized piece of aluminum, the steel will be "stronger." Aluminum can be stronger, but it requires more material to achieve the same strength. Regardless, the overall strength and rigidity of the frame is determined by much more than the individual metals used to create it. As far as the 2 piece part goes: 1. The connecting joint is very sturdy. Since the stock frame is hollow in that area, a solid adapter block a few inches long is inserted and welded in and then that is bolted to the new front half. 2. The joint is in between the two rear motor mounts, so if for whatever reason the connecting joint isn't strong enough, those will be helping hold it together. And yes, better braking input while rolling endos from this frame. When rolling endos and having the entire weight of the bike concentrated on the neck of the frame, you can really feel the slop and flex in a stock frame compared to this. You seem to act like this isn't possible, perhaps you have years of experience rolling endos that would provide some alternate insight into the situation? Synonamess Botch posted:Serious question, how can I learn to control my bike like that? Find a group of stunters and "apprentice" as it were? Would it be necessary to learn on dirt? Hah, there is no apprenticing, this isn't Biker Boyz  I don't think learning on dirt is necessary, and as z3n said, some people do learn on 50s. I personally think finding an old f2/f3/f4i for $1500 on craigslist and going at it on a 600 is your best bet and then hit up some local bike nights, filter through the idiots and you'll find someone who knows someone who knows someone who does wheelies in parking lots.Leah did a short writeup about getting started and find spots here that we still haven't fleshed out: http://www.leahstunts.com/Blog/DetailsPost/498 We also did a writeup about getting started on a cheap old bike here: http://www.stuntbums.com/Blog/stunting-on-a-budget-ernie-vigil-talks-about-riding-the-prehistoric-wonder-bike And then we did a 3 part series where we somewhat documented our friend Tone throughout his quest to learn idle wheelies. It's not exactly the most technical documentary, but if you spend some time riding, ask some questions at your local lot and watch the videos for reference I'm sure they could be beneficial to you as you learn: http://www.stuntbums.com/Category/riding-tips Phat_Albert posted:Or exciting new ways for frames to break. Haha, that is possible, but the stock ones already break so easy that it can't be any worse. I just see it as another progressive step in our immature sport. What we do clearly isn't riding a sportbike in it's traditional sense, it's not trials riding and we keep working towards tweaking our machines to do what we want to do better in order to further define our sport. Also, lots of people are starting to chop up and create really nice custom tanks, but it's just that denting them still provides great performance for the amount of work. I can't find any great close up shots, but check out Dan Jackson's tank from his 09 zx6r:    It's completely flat with a built up lip in the back for keeping in there when on the tank. inolen fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Oct 27, 2010 |
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We are not talking about strength, we are talking about flex. In the dirtbike world, it is well known that steel framed bikes flex under really harsh conditions, while aluminium frames stay very rigid. Your new steel frame might be more rigid because of the way it was designed, but the likelihood that it is actually flexing less than the old aluminum one is minimal, as they don't flex hardly at all. I would be more inclined to think that endos are easier now because the frame flexes and absorbs bumps and jars better, than because it is more rigid. In celebration of leaving for the 24 hour race in 2 days, you all should watch this nice little documentary on last years race. Its not done yet, but 3 of the 4 parts are. Pinning The Ridge - Part 1 http://www.vimeo.com/15149203 Pinning The Ridge - Part 2 http://www.vimeo.com/15866749 Pinning The Ridge - Part 3 http://www.vimeo.com/16188736
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TheFonz posted:I know you're being facetious, but it really is. Stunting is about showmanship. That's what the crowd wants, yea sure the rider has to have some set of skills, but the audience just wants showmanship. That's like saying any sport is all about showmanship. Not all stunters want to be flashy, plenty just want to be left alone in some remote parking lot so they can entertain themselves trying new tricks on their beater. I personally wanted something brighter this season as I spent all last season shooting photos of a bunch of black and red bikes that just come out looking horrible in photos. I've always loved Rossi's bright colors: 
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mutt2jeff posted:We are not talking about strength, we are talking about flex. In the dirtbike world, it is well known that steel framed bikes flex under really harsh conditions, while aluminium frames stay very rigid. Your new steel frame might be more rigid because of the way it was designed, but the likelihood that it is actually flexing less than the old aluminum one is minimal, as they don't flex hardly at all. I would be more inclined to think that endos are easier now because the frame flexes and absorbs bumps and jars better, than because it is more rigid. I am aware of the steel vs aluminum frame situation in the dirtbike world, but we're talking a completely different frame design here, not just a steel version of the stock aluminum frame. Although I'm sure the crack I was running with on my old aluminum frame near the end of its life wasn't exactly helping my opinion of it. Edit: Again, not an engineer here. I can only talk about how it feels to me and the others that have also started running a similar setup. inolen fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Oct 27, 2010 |
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inolen posted:I am aware of the steel vs aluminum frame situation in the dirtbike world, but we're talking a completely different frame design here, not just a steel version of the stock aluminum frame. Although I'm sure the crack I was running with on my old aluminum frame near the end of its life wasn't exactly helping my opinion of it. Using "average" alloys for the numbers. Steel is about 2.86 X as stiff as aluminum, but weighs about 2.9 X more. It's almost a wash, with aluminum barely poking ahead in stiffness to weight by about 1.3%. Inolen has the right idea about different frames though, you can't compare the materials involved unless the geometry is the same.
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For only $1.1 million, you can show everyone how utterly retarded you are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Phf8ytsfD0 I offered him $500 so I could dump it in the Mariana trench.
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Oct 27, 2010 05:43
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Please tell me the 1.1 mil is all going to charity or something.
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Oct 27, 2010 05:54
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjp5uvfiHIY Daaaaaamn
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Oct 28, 2010 00:43
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Getting ready for Halloween.
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harm0nic posted:Getting ready for Halloween. While you're at it, get ready for the "ATTGATT, MOTHERFUCKER!!" storm and other safety lectures. For content, here's a bobbed 1963 Sportster with a 900 ironhead built by my friend Rat Rod Rusty: [img]http://img.waffleimages.com/33826c3445b8bb82502ede32cd4bd31902efdb8e/604617423212[1].JPG[/img] HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Oct 28, 2010 |
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Oct 28, 2010 03:30
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HenryJLittlefinger posted:While you're at it, get ready for the "ATTGATT, MOTHERFUCKER!!" storm and other safety lectures. He wouldn't make it out of his apartment's parking lot (where the picture appears to be taken) without crashing if he wore the mask while riding.
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HenryJLittlefinger posted:For content, here's a bobbed 1963 Sportster with a 900 ironhead built by my friend Rat Rod Rusty: Very classy, I dig  But what's with the gigantic sidestand?
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harm0nic posted:Getting ready for Halloween. What's with the long face?
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Hah, yeah. I can't see a goddamn thing through that mask. I'd kill myself before I left the parking lot.
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Oct 28, 2010 16:22
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harm0nic posted:Getting ready for Halloween. Take this picture again with a helmet on the mask.
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saw this at Metropolis Motorcycles yesterday, the Sharpiest of Sharpie paint jobs. Really pretty slick looking. Can't imagine the cost though, and you know it'll never be ridden, just put on a podium in a bike shop or in the million £ loft of some rich prick.  
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Is there a guy with a high pressure air jet pointing at her face from just behind the camera?
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ynotony posted:Take this picture again with a helmet on the mask.  I had my horse mask laying around, so I said "what the hell"
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Slim Pickens posted:I had my horse mask laying around, so I said "what the hell" That sounds a bit...nonchalant. Is there a motorcyclist horse-mask thing I'm unaware of?
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More like an SA horse-mask thing. I bought it 2 years ago, but it's a big thing in the GBS halloween thread.
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The popularity of the horse mask makes life a lot easier for those of us who actually look like that.
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