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Do not become a lawyer. You. You there. Do not go to law school. Stop it.
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Bud Manstrong posted:Do not become a lawyer.
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Oct 25, 2010 19:51
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nm posted:poo poo, i already became one, what do I do? Go to Barrow, Alaska, and become a public defender/vampire slayer
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Oct 25, 2010 19:59
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Roger_Mudd posted:Got my first client. Awesome. You have now found someone who will expect you to be on call 24 hours per day to rescue him or her from awful life choices. Someone who wants to fill you in, in painful and exacting detail, why his or her circumstances are *SO UNFAIR*, but under no circumstances wants to pay you for the time listening. Someone who will not pay your bills, but expect prompt and courteous service. And someone who will sue you at the drop of a hat, for slights real or imagined, when the representation is over. Enjoy!
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Oct 25, 2010 20:11
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nm posted:poo poo, i already became one, what do I do? you tell me 
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Oct 25, 2010 20:27
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TyChan posted:How many of those people are those with Ph.Ds in the arts who deliberately took a menial day job to give themselves the time to pursue other ventures outside of work? When I worked in casual fine dining, almost every single co-worker was a college grad, some with grad school degrees/work as well. All were there by choice and enjoyed the freedom working in a restaurant gave them.
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Oct 25, 2010 21:12
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Anyone have any experience in the recent foreclosure defense craze? Are all law firms that claim they are successful in loan modification full of it? I may have a good in at a commercial litigation/foreclosure defense/loan modification firm but I'd rather know up front if this only involves scamming poor people out of money for impossible loan modifications.
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Oct 25, 2010 21:14
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blar posted:Anyone have any experience in the recent foreclosure defense craze? Are all law firms that claim they are successful in loan modification full of it? I may have a good in at a commercial litigation/foreclosure defense/loan modification firm but I'd rather know up front if this only involves scamming poor people out of money for impossible loan modifications. Even if they get it, 50%+ of mortgages that have been modified are back in collections within a year. It sucks. Neon Belly fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Oct 25, 2010 |
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Oct 25, 2010 21:19
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blar posted:Anyone have any experience in the recent foreclosure defense craze? Are all law firms that claim they are successful in loan modification full of it? I may have a good in at a commercial litigation/foreclosure defense/loan modification firm but I'd rather know up front if this only involves scamming poor people out of money for impossible loan modifications. Loan modification is accepting thousands of dollars from poor people to ask their bank if they'd consider taking less money, and the banks are less receptive to the lawyer than the actual lender.
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Oct 25, 2010 21:26
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I like La Victoria Taco Sauce. Deal with it.
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Oct 25, 2010 21:28
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blar posted:Anyone have any experience in the recent foreclosure defense craze? Are all law firms that claim they are successful in loan modification full of it? I may have a good in at a commercial litigation/foreclosure defense/loan modification firm but I'd rather know up front if this only involves scamming poor people out of money for impossible loan modifications. I would probably be that guy who wears the hood and pulls the lever to hang people at this point.
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Oct 25, 2010 21:30
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blar posted:Anyone have any experience in the recent foreclosure defense craze? Are all law firms that claim they are successful in loan modification full of it? I may have a good in at a commercial litigation/foreclosure defense/loan modification firm but I'd rather know up front if this only involves scamming poor people out of money for impossible loan modifications. More detailed answer: http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/221604/mortgage-firm-workers-could-be-on-hook
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Oct 25, 2010 22:01
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evilweasel posted:More detailed answer: http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/221604/mortgage-firm-workers-could-be-on-hook Make sure to check the comments for some hilarious defenses from Dan Dargon, Esq.!
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Oct 25, 2010 22:10
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Adar posted:Make sure to check the comments for some hilarious defenses from Dan Dargon, Esq.! Guys, I think The Dragon is being set up!
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Oct 25, 2010 22:25
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Bud Manstrong posted:Do not become a lawyer. Want to know the percentage of my law school friends who graduated with me who agree with this? About 80%. It's actually pretty funny. Some have already quit their "amazing" big firm jobs.
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Oct 25, 2010 22:32
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evilweasel posted:More detailed answer: http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/221604/mortgage-firm-workers-could-be-on-hook Oh no, they are after The Beard: evilweasel posted:Don Lader, a Gorham attorney who runs Lader Legal Services and has taken on about 80 of Dargon's former clients, also said yesterday that he did not want to comment. The banking department alleges he committed 38 unlicensed loan originations and was an unlicensed branch manager and unlicensed mortgage broker.
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Oct 25, 2010 23:20
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Bud Manstrong posted:you tell me (Admitted in 2 states) Also, I applied to the alaska PD. Never heard anything. I blame sarah palin. Adar posted:Make sure to check the comments for some hilarious defenses from Dan Dargon, Esq.! Goddammit. nm fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Oct 25, 2010 |
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Oct 25, 2010 23:22
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Lawyer & Law School Megathread #13: 108 Unlicensed Loan Modifications But I'd Work For Him
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Oct 25, 2010 23:28
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So I'm digging through the forms on my computer left by the previous assistant. Ever hear of a "please agreement"? No wonder she was fired.
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Oct 26, 2010 00:44
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Save me jeebus posted:So I'm digging through the forms on my computer left by the previous assistant. Ever hear of a "please agreement"? Yes It is either an agreement to perform certain sexual favors or one that provides one party with tacos.
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Oct 26, 2010 00:47
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blar posted:Anyone have any experience in the recent foreclosure defense craze? Are all law firms that claim they are successful in loan modification full of it? I may have a good in at a commercial litigation/foreclosure defense/loan modification firm but I'd rather know up front if this only involves scamming poor people out of money for impossible loan modifications. There is no such thing as foreclosure defense, nobody who is going through foreclosure can pay a lawyer to argue that there was fraud, if there is no fraud then the house is taken 100% of the time. Attorneys doing loan modification is always a scam, there are HUD certified counselors in almost every state that can actually help (sometimes but not usually because banks are terrible), and they are free. It's not like attorneys have some special expertise in filling out HAMP applications or calling banks to be told "we're reviewing the paperwork" and getting hung up on that's worth paying for. Mattavist fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Oct 26, 2010 |
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Oct 26, 2010 00:59
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nm posted:Pay $1000 and join another bar! That is sure to double our chances! About to do that. Moving to Colorado in January. I'm admitted in Florida, and we have reciprocity with no one because we get all shakey-fist at New York sending its oldsters down here and taking our jerbs  . I was hoping to get a cushy research/gubmint job and not have to take another bar, or at least find something in a practice area that doesn't make me weep blood from my ears, but that ain't happening. No jobs.Honestly I should just be a park ranger. I'd
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Oct 26, 2010 01:53
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Where in CO are you moving?
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Oct 26, 2010 01:58
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Solomon Grundy posted:Awesome. You have now found someone who will expect you to be on call 24 hours per day to rescue him or her from awful life choices. Someone who wants to fill you in, in painful and exacting detail, why his or her circumstances are *SO UNFAIR*, but under no circumstances wants to pay you for the time listening. Someone who will not pay your bills, but expect prompt and courteous service. And someone who will sue you at the drop of a hat, for slights real or imagined, when the representation is over. Enjoy! Not this one, this client cares about me as a person.
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Oct 26, 2010 02:39
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Roger_Mudd posted:Not this one, this client cares about me as a person. your mum doesn't count as a client
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Oct 26, 2010 04:45
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Bud Manstrong posted:Honestly I should just be a park ranger. I'd
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Oct 26, 2010 06:01
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Save me jeebus posted:Where in CO are you moving? Boulder. Been looking in Boulder (ha) and Denver.
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Oct 26, 2010 14:19
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diospadre posted:There is no such thing as foreclosure defense, nobody who is going through foreclosure can pay a lawyer to argue that there was fraud, if there is no fraud then the house is taken 100% of the time. The exception is lawyers who do foreclosure defense for Legal Aid. They focus on delaying the foreclosure long enough for the homeowner to find someplace new to live.
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Oct 26, 2010 15:09
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Should US courts be allowed to consider intergalactic law when deciding domestic cases? Star Trek cited by Texas Supreme Court
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Oct 26, 2010 16:01
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Defenestration posted:Should US courts be allowed to consider intergalactic law when deciding domestic cases? A TX Supreme Court clerkship sounds like something you'd have to be a pretty hardcore gunner to get, I'm surprised one of them has a sense of humor. Then again, I remember someone citing Wikipedia in a Federal District Court opinion on an issue of fact, and they didn't even use the 'Permanent link' feature, instead just citing the live page. Edit: The case citing Wikipedia is at https://www.ailf.org/lac/chdocs/Buck-Order.pdf with the Wikipedia cite on page 2. I found the case itself while looking up something on immigration, it's pretty much the court saying "No, redneck county employee in Bumfuck, PA, you can't deny someone a marriage license just because they can't prove their immigration status." Konstantin fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Oct 26, 2010 |
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Oct 26, 2010 17:59
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Konstantin posted:A TX Supreme Court clerkship sounds like something you'd have to be a pretty hardcore gunner to get, I'm surprised one of them has a sense of humor. Then again, I remember someone citing Wikipedia in a Federal District Court opinion on an issue of fact, and they didn't even use the 'Permanent link' feature, instead just citing the live page. This is amazing. Have a link?
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Oct 26, 2010 18:06
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See STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN (Paramount Pictures 1982). The film references several works of classic literature, none more prominently than A Tale of Two Cities. Spock gives Admiral Kirk an antique copy as a birthday present, and the film itself is bookended with the book’s opening and closing passages. Most memorable, of course, is Spock’s famous line from his moment of sacrifice: “Don’t grieve, Admiral. It is logical. The needs of the many outweigh . . .” to which Kirk replies, “the needs of the few.”
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Oct 26, 2010 18:26
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I have a friend who is doing her sociology dissertation on law school and the legal profession and she's hoping to speak to several more law students for a 30-45 minute phone interview. Please contact me...Sociology Student posted:Want to talk about law school and legal careers? I would love to hear your thoughts! I am conducting a study on legal careers, with particular focus on gender and diversity issues in the profession. I am looking to speak with law students like you about your experiences, aspirations, and perceptions about the profession. Interviews (~30-45 minutes) can be done over the phone, and all information is confidential and anonymous. As a token of appreciation, you will be entered into a raffle for one of five $100.00 Amazon.com gift cards. This study is approved by the Stanford University Institutional Review Board and funded by the National Science Foundation. Edit: She has enough people now. Thanks! Grammar Fascist fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Oct 29, 2010 |
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Oct 26, 2010 19:38
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Konstantin posted:A TX Supreme Court clerkship sounds like something you'd have to be a pretty hardcore gunner to get, I'm surprised one of them has a sense of humor. I think it's the Justice who adds it. He cited to Pink Panther (on YouTube) in another decision: FKM P'ship, Ltd. v. Bd. of Regents of Univ. of Houston Sys., 255 S.W.3d 619, 639 n.7 (Tex. 2008) (Willett, J., concurring in part and dissenting in part)
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Oct 26, 2010 19:58
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Grammar Fascist posted:I have a friend who is doing her sociology dissertation on law school and the legal profession and she's hoping to speak to several more law students for a 30-45 minute phone interview. If you're interested in participating, please e-mail me (grammarfascist@gmail.com) and I'll give you her contact info. Won't sampling from this population severely skew her research?
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Oct 26, 2010 23:51
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_areaman posted:Won't sampling from this population severely skew her research? Shhhhh!
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Oct 26, 2010 23:55
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Bud Manstrong posted:Boulder. Been looking in Boulder (ha) and Denver. Aww I'm jealous. Good luck on your new endeavor! 
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Oct 27, 2010 00:33
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Is it unhealthy to develop an immediate allegiance to Westlaw over Lexis, or should I be more open minded?
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Oct 27, 2010 03:12
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Direwolf posted:Is it unhealthy to develop an immediate allegiance to Westlaw over Lexis, or should I be more open minded? No, this is the correct option.
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Direwolf posted:Is it unhealthy to develop an immediate allegiance to Westlaw over Lexis, or should I be more open minded? That was my first reaction when I started law school, but then I had an internship that only had Lexis available and I decided I actually liked it better than westlaw. I do not remember why I wish one of them were free
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