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wayfinder posted:Some lazy sunday rolling techno (work in progress) very nice its pretty busy though, have you considered making some of the parts abit stronger and scaling back on the amount f.ex? On the gated sound that runs from where the kick drops, you could easily make it abit more colorful by either make a notechange, or a filter automation thingie - something like 1 2 3 4 basically just fewer parts but make them bigger and more important. im not talking make it all villalobos or something, just give your track some room to breathe. Would also give you space for more fills and cameo synths/percs - giving you more variety overall. Less is more - example (Notice how much of a bigger impact new parts that get dropped in has) Im also not a big fan of those fast kick rolls. Awesome groove you got goin tho, you are definitely improving. One last thing, this is a taste issue though - I could see this being smoother with a slightly lower tempo, but thats just me.
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So, I feel a bit out of my league posting after Wayfinder but I just finished something up and would appreciate any feedback.
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Thanks Dicky B and Quincy! My feeling regarding your feedback is that I've been changing it up too much in the first minute or so, that there's not enough time for the elements to settle in because I'm too eager to introduce them all. I'll probably just leave a little longer for stuff to develop, be a bit more careful with the percussion (I've got a lot of different elements that I've been just kinda throwing into the arrangement so far). So yeah, a change of pace probably, and with that the elements should gain some more weight when they come in. I like the timings during/after after the telephone breakdown, so I'll probably do something like that. Gonna end up with another 8 minute track, dammit  The fast kick rolls – they're here to stay  Thanks for that really good feedback... don't get that very often! parade posted:You've got the compositional chops, your harmonies and melodies are good and appropriate for the genre, and there's a lot of potential in the track. But your production level is stuck in the mid-90s. Instead of enumerating everything that could be done differently, I would ask you to listen to the Trance Around The World podcast every week (you can start right now, they have all the old issues available on their website). Just soak up the sounds and listen with a critical ear. Identify how what the guys on the radio are doing differs from what you do (for example, how they handle their strings, or what kinds of transitions they use, or the way they structure their tracks, sound choices, percussion feel etc) and try to find stuff you like; then emulate it with the means you have available. Don't worry about getting it completely right, but be honest with yourself about what in your stuff works and what doesn't. And in a year or so, come back to this track and carve out the banging tune I can sort of already hear in there
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Oct 24, 2010 23:17
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parade posted:So, I feel a bit out of my league posting after Wayfinder but I just finished something up and would appreciate any feedback. Agreeing with Wayfinder, your melodies and such are great. From my listening perspective I'd say make it a bit shorter (unless you were aiming for something longer), meaning make the different parts come in sooner. It drags on a bit in the beginning, but that's a big part of trance music so I'd say keep doing what feels right! Also, Wayfinder, your track is sweet
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wayfinder posted:You've got the compositional chops, your harmonies and melodies are good and appropriate for the genre, and there's a lot of potential in the track. But your production level is stuck in the mid-90s. Instead of enumerating everything that could be done differently, I would ask you to listen to the Trance Around The World podcast every week (you can start right now, they have all the old issues available on their website). Just soak up the sounds and listen with a critical ear. Identify how what the guys on the radio are doing differs from what you do (for example, how they handle their strings, or what kinds of transitions they use, or the way they structure their tracks, sound choices, percussion feel etc) and try to find stuff you like; then emulate it with the means you have available. Don't worry about getting it completely right, but be honest with yourself about what in your stuff works and what doesn't. And in a year or so, come back to this track and carve out the banging tune I can sort of already hear in there I think I've been reaching towards the more nineties production styles because the relatively sparse and rhythmically simple arrangements suit my weak points in those areas--it's not that I don't listen to more recent stuff but I get rather intimidated by how complex they appear. I'll keep at it and try to incorporate more, I tend to focus on the things I'm good at but I should get out of my musical comfort zone more often. I appreciate the feedback, I've been a big fan of your music since fr-025 back in the day. I r Pat posted:Agreeing with Wayfinder, your melodies and such are great. From my listening perspective I'd say make it a bit shorter (unless you were aiming for something longer), meaning make the different parts come in sooner. It drags on a bit in the beginning, but that's a big part of trance music so I'd say keep doing what feels right! Yeah, I suppose it's in the vein of "buffer for a DJ to mix in" but given how infrequent that is likely to happen with my music it'd probably benefit from an edit that cuts to the chase faster. parade fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Oct 25, 2010 |
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BittyWings posted:there's no tutorials, and the only general FM tutorials I can find online basically require me to be a rocket surgeon to figure out. To be fair, this has always been the case for FM synthesis, ever since 1983. FM is just plain unintuitive and sort of a black art to figure out. That's why the DX-7 presets were so goddamn ubiquitous on everything in the 80s - nobody else could figure it out either (the confusing manual and menu-driven programming weren't very helpful either).
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HotCanadianChick posted:FM is just plain unintuitive and sort of a black art to figure out. Watch this. Complexity is a symptom of confusion, not a cause.
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Oct 25, 2010 05:35
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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > No Music Discussion > Musician's Lounge > The EDM Thread: but once I figured out how to get changes in timbre from the amplitude envelope of the modulating oscillator FM became so obvious that I was shocked it looked so confusing at first.
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:http://soundcloud.com/madeon Madeon is somewhat of an internet celebrity over at the FL Studio forums. He wins just about every remix contest that image-line puts out, and has a lot of his stuff featured in the new FL beta videos. It's pretty mind blowing that he's only 16, and he's a super chill kid on the forums. Kind of makes me happy that I use FL Studio, so I can rub it in peoples faces that good sounding tracks aren't really reliant on the DAW, but rather the person using it.
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E1M5 posted:Madeon is somewhat of an internet celebrity over at the FL Studio forums. He wins just about every remix contest that image-line puts out, and has a lot of his stuff featured in the new FL beta videos. It's pretty mind blowing that he's only 16, and he's a super chill kid on the forums. Imagine what he'd sound like a on a real DAW
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Oct 25, 2010 23:21
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I've recently started to use delays in a different way and I'm very happy with the results. A simple delay with a moderate amount of feedback and a really short delay time (80ms is what I've been using) can give a sound a cool feeling of space. Very similar to a reverb, but with a different kind of sound depending on how you set the delay. Is this how algorithmic reverbs work? I know that convulsion reverbs emulate the actual physical space and model how the sound would change if it was put through that space, but I don't know how algorithmic reverbs work.
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Oct 25, 2010 23:23
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:Imagine what he'd sound like a on a real DAW hahahahaha I heard this alllllll the time when I was using FLS
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Oct 25, 2010 23:35
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will you get out im tryin to troll here
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Oct 25, 2010 23:38
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Reality Is Digital posted:I've recently started to use delays in a different way and I'm very happy with the results. A simple delay with a moderate amount of feedback and a really short delay time (80ms is what I've been using) can give a sound a cool feeling of space. Very similar to a reverb, but with a different kind of sound depending on how you set the delay. This trick has been around for quite a while. In fact, a bunch of low-rate dubstep producers were bragging that they'd NEVER use reverb in a modern track.
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:will you get out im tryin to troll here Whoops I meant haha you can really hear the fl sound in his music
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Oct 26, 2010 02:58
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Naw I sure as hell cant. One thing I can say however is that all my friends who use it seem to not develop very quickly. In fact, most stick to the same sound for years. I think we should have a Fastracker II competition. edit: octamed fags can play too I guess.
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Oct 26, 2010 03:26
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Fasttracker sucks, Impulse Tracker 4 Lyfe
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Oct 26, 2010 06:06
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I've got Renoise. Best tracker ever .
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I do believe some some light gear porn is in order. Holy poo poo, is all I have to say.
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Oct 26, 2010 15:19
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:I do believe some some light gear porn is in order.
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Oct 26, 2010 19:51
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:I do believe some some light gear porn is in order. Ugh. $5000 and it's only a USB interface and 2 channels? Pass.
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Oct 27, 2010 15:30
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Just a shot in the dark here but would anyone be interested in an Axiom 25? I used it a few times then loss my free time to work on music.
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Not sure if any of you are familiar with the UK band James, but in the spirit of trying something different with my music, I've put together a drum & bass remix of one of their slower more chilled songs, as a challenge to myself, and because I love the song. I'd be interested to hear what you think of it! Click here to listen to James - Out To Get You (Deftek remix).mp3
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HotCanadianChick posted:Ugh. $5000 and it's only a USB interface and 2 channels? Pass. ahahaha... wait what??
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I'll stick with my Fireface, but hey, that looks neat . When it becomes worth more to me than the nice modular I could build with five grand, maybe i'll look at it instead of a Jupiter 8  ....everything aside, though. I could see this becoming somewhat of a standard for guys like Deadmau5 or Wolfgang Gardner who make good cash and go on tour. I just don't see how it's worth much to people who aren't already well off when likely better converters are available for 1/3 the price, dispite the lack of hands on control. Edit : After reading more, I do think the "Switching between three systems" thing would be very cool, and you could easily integrate something like this with one's current setup. Neglected to notice that factoid. In that case, I think this'll be good for people getting into tracking bands who use say, protools and logic at the same time. Shes In Parties fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 27, 2010 |
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Oct 27, 2010 17:44
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The SSL logo alone is worth 2k haha
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Oct 27, 2010 18:05
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Must be. 2500 actually seems like a fairer price.
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Hey hey, i'm nearly done with a new one and i've uploaded a short segment. http://soundcloud.com/downpour/grindhouse-2-demo Sorry for not having it fade. Any comments on mix, feel, drums, etc? I'm not happy with the hook in the second half and i'm planning to re-write it, so it's just a segment of the first break. The intro needs some work too, but I know what needs doing there. Wayfinder - i'm really into that. It's right up my street
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Oct 27, 2010 23:39
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wacky posted:I recently revisited Ishkur's website and his guide to electronic music and now I'm depressed because I feel like everything I do will be inherently derivative (he is a pretty scathing man and reading his take on modern EDM and electronic music in general makes me feel like any effort is futile) The only thing you should care about is "Do I Enjoy This?". All music is inherently derivative. Don't worry about revolutionizing electronic music or getting frustrated with yourself for making someone that someone else may have already made something similar to. Just make what you enjoy and put your own spin on it. When you stop enjoying yourself, THEN it is futile.
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Oct 28, 2010 05:05
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Ishkur is a clueless retard, if that helps you at all.
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:Ishkur is a clueless retard, if that helps you at all. Progressive Anthem Trance fan spotted.
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place fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Feb 10, 2017 |
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Oct 28, 2010 05:56
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Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about Ishkur's negative opinions. Guy honestly embodies the worst traits of uppity, elitist IDM fans, if you know what I mean.
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HotCanadianChick posted:Progressive Anthem Trance fan spotted. Nah dude Progressive Anthem Trance sucks, its all about Epic Uplifting Progressive Trance these days.
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HotCanadianChick posted:Progressive Anthem Trance fan spotted. I dont even know what thats supposed to mean.
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wacky posted:I dont get why its called House when its played in clubs WHAT IF IT IS A CLUB CALLED HOUSE :X
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melee beats posted:WHAT IF IT IS A CLUB CALLED HOUSE :X http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouse_(nightclub) shut up it had to be done HAD TO!
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