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Football is a ratings juggernaut. Premiering your new show against it would not be ideal. Not to mention that both share the same key demographic (Males, 18-34).
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True, and perhaps they thought airing it on Halloween would be...
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Oct 28, 2010 16:56
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If you don't see the correlation between a barely animate shambling corpse and Brett Favre I don't know what to tel you.
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Oct 28, 2010 19:19
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Gassire posted:If you don't see the correlation between a barely animate shambling corpse and Brett Favre I don't know what to tel you. Zombies can't use cell phones.
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Oct 29, 2010 15:15
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Gassire posted:If you don't see the correlation between a barely animate shambling corpse and Brett Favre I don't know what to tel you.
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Oct 29, 2010 16:24
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How does TWD fare if you find most of the tenets of Romero-style zombies painfully outdated? I read ~20% of the compendium today at my local bookstore, and I had a lot of trouble connecting with the survivors, because I knew most of them would eventually foolishly get eaten, or fight amongst themselves, or destroy their surroundings so that the otherwise-harmless zombies can come in.
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Oct 31, 2010 07:54
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MisterBibs posted:How does TWD fare if you find most of the tenets of Romero-style zombies painfully outdated? I read ~20% of the compendium today at my local bookstore, and I had a lot of trouble connecting with the survivors, because I knew most of them would eventually foolishly get eaten, or fight amongst themselves, or destroy their surroundings so that the otherwise-harmless zombies can come in. It's actually fairly good about that, with external forces causing most of the conflict. Not to say they don't bitch and fight amongst themselves but it rarely, if ever, turns out like the climax to Dead Set for example.
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Oct 31, 2010 11:39
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Then again.. isn't that the whole purpose of a zombie film? To reflect on the fact that we're the real monsters in the situation and that while a flesh eating death lays out in the world, we have more to fear from internal struggle and how many snap at the whole concept of society breaking down? I'm not sure how you can updated it. And don't tell me fast moving zombies. I find that as a 'why even bother, let me eat a bullet' situation. As they're always used as a shock scare or just so overwhelming that it's not even worth it.
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Oct 31, 2010 12:43
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The Walking Dead isn't really about the breaking down of society as much as its about what kind of society can survive in a zombie apocalypse, which is what makes the book interesting and not just dumb zombie stuff.
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Oct 31, 2010 13:05
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Jack Skeleton posted:Then again.. isn't that the whole purpose of a zombie film? To reflect on the fact that we're the real monsters in the situation... No matter how many movies I see, the answer is always the same. It's the zombies. The zombies are the real monsters. You can tell by a lack of decay and better grooming among the survivors.
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Oct 31, 2010 15:46
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Jack Skeleton posted:Then again.. isn't that the whole purpose of a zombie film? To reflect on the fact that we're the real monsters in the situation and that while a flesh eating death lays out in the world, we have more to fear from internal struggle and how many snap at the whole concept of society breaking down? My answer is the same answer I gave the Youtube-Video-Of-The-Dead-Whose-Name-I-Can't-Remember: No, we're not the monsters, the aforementioned flesh-eating zombies are the real monsters. See Just Here For Godzilla. Jack Skeleton posted:I'm not sure how you can update it. And don't tell me fast moving zombies. I find that as a 'why even bother, let me eat a bullet' situation. As they're always used as a shock scare or just so overwhelming that it's not even worth it. Therein lies the actual terror I want to get out of a zombie property, which is why I asked if TWD eventually gets to that point. Where I fear the actual zombies and what they can do, not what boneheaded infighting or Retarded Human Bad Guy does to screw up the existing good things they got going on. Christ on a cracker, right now they are in a safe location, and Rick wants to steal the goddamn guns?!
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First of all, what you're describing is a feeling that your bored or don't connect with these situations, not that they're "outdated." It's not like people in the 70's were more likely to crack under pressure or do dumb things in horror movies than people are today. Date has nothing to do with it. Secondly, I think the series does a great job of alternating between other people and the zombies being the biggest threat. Every time it seems like they're safe, some outside force screws it up for them (though bad decision making can play a role in it, it's never your typical scary movie "don't open the door you goddamn idiot" kind of stupidity), whether that's another group of people or the zombies themselves. I guess what I'm saying is that the danger never feels forced. It's never that typical zombie movie moment where someone freaks out and tears down the barricade or starts killing the other people there right before the zombies come to finish the job. It has always felt organic to me as I've been reading the series almost since it started (I think I have all but the first 15 or so issues in single issue format because I've been reading it monthly). Rick wants to steal the guns because he doesn't trust these people. He's had to rely on himself for too long to believe that this random group of strangers can be entrusted with the safety of himself, his son, and the group that has become his surrogate family. If you haven't been reading the series up to this point, you definitely don't want to start with a random issue. Hell, just knowing who is alive now and who isn't is a huuuuge spoiler that will ruin some of the great "HOLY poo poo" moments in the series. If you have some interest in it, pick up the first trade. It's cheap and there are a million copies out there thanks to the TV series starting up later today. If you like it, buy the second book. If you don't, then don't. Read until it is no longer enjoyable or you catch up, whichever comes first.
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Oct 31, 2010 19:41
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Well, they do touch on the threat that a full on zombie horde offers when they're going to Washington D.C., but the whole point of zombies was never to be running. Much like death, it's slow and no matter what, you're not going to escape no matter where or how fast you run.
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Oct 31, 2010 22:23
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I do hope the Community survives for a least a little while longer. Be a bit annoying to have all the supporting cast end up as zombie fodder again.
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AttitudeAdjuster posted:I do hope the Community survives for a least a little while longer. Be a bit annoying to have all the supporting cast end up as zombie fodder again. True. But I'm looking forward to seeing the Preacher and that pseudo-scientist gently caress get eaten.
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Nov 1, 2010 07:23
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Aww.. I felt bad for the science teacher. I could understand where he's coming from. But I think he's underestimating his usefulness. I mean, look at all the people he helped patch up.
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foxatee posted:Aww.. I felt bad for the science teacher. I could understand where he's coming from. But I think he's underestimating his usefulness. I mean, look at all the people he helped patch up. I think he could be useful to make some anti-zombie things. Plus, a knowledge of chemistry would be very useful in a community. But, he was a gigantic douche by lying to everyone, so he's going to get eaten. Well, I'd bet money he dies soon.
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Nov 2, 2010 01:58
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To be fair, the group was kind of retarded for believing him in the first place.
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Nov 2, 2010 03:04
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"Are you scared of me?" "No." Holy poo poo.
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Timeless Appeal posted:To be fair, the group was kind of retarded for believing him in the first place. Yeah, I guess. But, we already know they weren't it their right minds when they met him, and hope is a funny thing. They just lost their home, their friends, their family, and he offered them something so outrageous, it had to be true. I admit I had doubts about him when he first popped up, but I wanted him to be telling truth.
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CaptainPete posted:Yeah, I guess. But, we already know they weren't it their right minds when they met him, and hope is a funny thing. They just lost their home, their friends, their family, and he offered them something so outrageous, it had to be true. I admit I had doubts about him when he first popped up, but I wanted him to be telling truth. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I was pretty into him as a character and really wanted to see how things were going to go down. You're talking about bringing hope to them but man, he brought hope to me! I understand their disappointment in him and also his shame at the same time 
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Nov 2, 2010 06:28
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Speaking of that guy where the hell is he? Haven't seen him in like 6 issues.
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Nov 2, 2010 19:07
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The show has turned out fantastic, I just loved the first episode. One thing I never really understood was this. In the original comic, why did the first artist decide to leave the series, having Tony Moore take over? I never really understood the reason, was it he was busy on other books? Didnt enjoy the project? Holding out for more money? If anyone knows, I'm very curious for an answer. Sorry I forget his name, I'm sure you all know though. Again, it was the first artist paired with Kirkman on the WD who left, what was his reason?
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Nov 2, 2010 19:37
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Tony Moore is the original artist. It's probably because Walking Dead was always intended as a longterm investment that would've distracted Moore from other work. Tony's definitely a better artist, but I think Charlie Adlard's mundane style is a better fit for the series than Moore's more stylized and exaggerated stuff from the early issues.
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Nov 2, 2010 20:38
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I think Kirkman wrote something in the letters column about Moore just not being able to keep up a monthly schedule long term and they parted on good terms. It took awhile to get used to Adlard's take on the characters, but dude has done 70+ issues in a row and it sucks that he's always getting compared to Moore.
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Nov 2, 2010 22:31
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How is it possible, for a major artist, who has great experience dealing with monthly schedules, going to pull out, because all the sudden it's to much work? That's what I don't understand. It's not like the guy did not know what he was signing on for.
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Nov 3, 2010 00:41
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Subways Jared posted:How is it possible, for a major artist, who has great experience dealing with monthly schedules, going to pull out, because all the sudden it's to much work? That's what I don't understand. It's not like the guy did not know what he was signing on for.
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Nov 3, 2010 00:55
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I really like Adlard's art. I've binged through the entire series over the past month, and there's definitely a bit of a system shock getting used to the differences after the first arc, but at this point the series wouldn't be right without him. Moore is great, but the idea of getting married to a series probably just turned him off. Art aside, the consistent quality of this series is absolutely unmatched. Every issue is great, and even the cannibal arc - probably one of the weakest of the series - was loving awesome. TAAINNNTEED MEAATTT! Also: "Huh. Looks like my sniper got yours."
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Nov 3, 2010 03:52
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Adlard sketched a really cool zombie for me one year at con without any line or anyone around him. He's a-okay in my book.
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The tv show has brought people out of the woodwork who won't read the comics because they're in black and white. What the he'll does that even mean? I actually prefer black and white a lot of the time and the thought of someone's brain making that connection baffles me. I actually think the comic works best without lovely computer coloring ruining the great mood Moore and Adlard have managed to fill the pages of this series with.
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Nov 7, 2010 04:39
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I've always been annoyed with the whole "The book went to poo poo because Adlard is not Tony Moore" Yes, we get it. Tony Moore is a much better artist but Adlard once getting his groove really does draw some nitty gritty zombies really well.
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Nov 7, 2010 11:36
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I find that Adlard's more mundane style fits the book much better than Moore's more cartoony looking style. That's not a slam against Moore either. I just think Adlard's a better fit.
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Geekboy posted:The tv show has brought people out of the woodwork who won't read the comics because they're in black and white. What the he'll does that even mean? I actually prefer black and white a lot of the time and the thought of someone's brain making that connection baffles me. I actually think the comic works best without lovely computer coloring ruining the great mood Moore and Adlard have managed to fill the pages of this series with. These are the same people that won't watch Raging Bull because it's in black and white.
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choobs posted:These are the same people that won't watch Raging Bull because it's in black and white. Or, perhaps even more accurately: They're people who will only listen to music with sampling and computer generated beats because IT'S 2010 GET WITH THE TIMES!!!
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Geekboy posted:Or, perhaps even more accurately: They're people who will only listen to music with sampling and computer generated beats because IT'S 2010 GET WITH THE TIMES!!! P-people like that actually EXIST? 
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Nov 8, 2010 22:51
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After watching the second episode of the AMC series: Is it me, or does Lori seem like a slut? This is why I shouldn't watch adaptations
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Tetris Crowley posted:P-people like that actually EXIST? I've got a friend who refuses to watch The Twilight Zone because it's "too old".
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I've got a friend who refuses to watch The Twilight Zone because it's "too old". I have a friend who won't watch Ghost Busters for that same reason.
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foxatee posted:After watching the second episode of the AMC series: Is it me, or does Lori seem like a slut? This is why I shouldn't watch adaptations Never liked that broad anyway.
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Two questions. Why are they still your friend, and why haven't you made them into a ghost?
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