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For those that bombed on this last Otober LSAT, what killed you? I looked at my scores and I was shocked to see what happened. I did great on Reading Comprehension and Logic Games, the two areas where I studied the least. I studied the MOST on Logic Reasoning and I got absolutely destroyed on both of them. The hell? Did this last LSAT have a lot of certain questions in LR that were not normal? If I would have scored the same in LR that I did in RC or LG, the I would be doing backflips right now.
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Two of the four sections you were graded on were LR? I thought my year we only had one graded LR section.
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Enigma89 posted:For those that bombed on this last Otober LSAT, what killed you? I looked at my scores and I was shocked to see what happened. I did great on Reading Comprehension and Logic Games, the two areas where I studied the least. I studied the MOST on Logic Reasoning and I got absolutely destroyed on both of them. The hell? Did this last LSAT have a lot of certain questions in LR that were not normal? If I would have scored the same in LR that I did in RC or LG, the I would be doing backflips right now. The same thing happened to me. I ended up having to do 3 LR sections and it was just brutal on my mental speed since it was my most difficult section. I haven't looked over the sheets, but from what I remember after doing the test was that they went against a lot of the stock "rules" taught by Powerscore and Kaplan -- they suggest that the answers with the stock logical reasoning error descriptions (ad hominem, circular, etc) tend to be wrong. However, I seem to remember several instances where they actually were the correct answers so that may have thrown some people if they were too dogmatic about tips and tricks. I know I had to revise some of my assumptions while writing the test. There's also usually a brutal stretch in the 20s on each LR section where it's just saturated with difficult questions, so stumbling there may not be recoverable if it throws your timing/confidence/pace. I haven't looked over the PDFs, but those are my initial thoughts.
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Oct 30, 2010 22:37
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AshB posted:That was my retake. This is the worst thing you could do and you are a dumb. Why are you trying to move forward with this.
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Oct 30, 2010 22:45
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Someone on our mid semester surveys in my IP class actually complained that we're not doing enough work.
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Oct 30, 2010 23:24
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Petey posted:This is the worst thing you could do and you are a dumb. You are on the verge of making the worst mistake of your life. This is your one easiest moment to say "no, perhaps I won't go to law school after all" and save yourself and maybe have a chance at some kind of career but instead your attitude is "oh well no harm in trying" there is quite a bit of harm in trying don't do it you dolt
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Oct 31, 2010 00:22
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AshB posted:That was my retake. Don't please. Don't do it. You could seriously ruin your life. Please just go do anything else. It will be hard on your family but they don't understand. Please listen.
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Oct 31, 2010 00:45
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AshB posted:That was my retake. AshB I swear to god if you go to law school I will cover your house in poo poo. Liquid poo poo, so it dries like a layer of paint then your house will be covered in poo poo paint. Also, I got my friend to talk to his friend at Nike SB (the skateboarding division) and he hinted at a legal summer job position, so my life might not be extremely horrible next summer.
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Oct 31, 2010 01:09
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Enigma89 posted:I am an unique snow flake so I am going to apply anyways. My goal is to get into University of America (#2 in the country for international law), I still have a chance to get in there and we will see. If not then I will take a year off and start my finger painting career.... That or go back to Germany and teach English to kids. Ainsley posted:You are on the verge of making the worst mistake of your life. This is your one easiest moment to say "no, perhaps I won't go to law school after all" and save yourself and maybe have a chance at some kind of career but instead your attitude is "oh well no harm in trying" Ersatz fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Oct 31, 2010 |
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Oct 31, 2010 01:16
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It truly is horrible out there. I'm actually excited to be an applicant for Marine Corps OCS and *hopefully* eventual commission as a JAG. Doesn't hurt that the vast majority of law students can't come close to meeting the PFT requirements. I'll use whatever advantage I have for a job.
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Oct 31, 2010 01:24
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You'll get in everywhere you apply!
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Oct 31, 2010 01:36
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Yojimbo Sancho posted:It truly is horrible out there. I'm actually excited to be an applicant for Marine Corps OCS and *hopefully* eventual commission as a JAG. Doesn't hurt that the vast majority of law students can't come close to meeting the PFT requirements. I'll use whatever advantage I have for a job. You'd be surprised. A lot of law school people are fitness freaks. Whole lot of runners, not a lot of weight lifters, some cyclists.
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Oct 31, 2010 01:40
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Yojimbo Sancho posted:It truly is horrible out there. I'm actually excited to be an applicant for Marine Corps OCS and *hopefully* eventual commission as a JAG. Doesn't hurt that the vast majority of law students can't come close to meeting the PFT requirements. I'll use whatever advantage I have for a job. Would you be going PLC-LAW, or straight OCS without a law guarantee and thinking you'll pick JAG up later? BTW, you'll be commissioned as a Marine Corps officer, not as a JAG. JAG is merely an MOS. (military occupational specialty)
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Oct 31, 2010 02:31
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Discovery sucks.
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Oct 31, 2010 02:48
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Stunt Rock posted:Discovery sucks. God does it ever. So do MSJs.
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Oct 31, 2010 02:55
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CaptainScraps posted:God does it ever. I have to write one of those next and it's going to suck but I'm probably going to win and there's no pressure because even if I lose the MSJ I'm confident that I will win at trial.
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Oct 31, 2010 03:54
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CaptainScraps posted:So do MSJs. Don't worry, those of us on the court end of the equation hate reading them as much as you hate writing them!
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Oct 31, 2010 05:14
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CaptainScraps posted:You'd be surprised. A lot of law school people are fitness freaks. Whole lot of runners, not a lot of weight lifters, some cyclists. Opposite here. I know one person who runs frequently. Students either (1) never go to the gym, ever or (2) do strength training 3+ times a week. There are a lot of swole law students this year. Today, a guy in my fraternity told me how stoked he was to get his 161 back. Don't worry, he's planning to do JAG so nbd it won't be a problem to get into. I told him that .5% on a good day get accepted and the fact that he's been a pack a day smoker for 4 years probably won't work out so well for the whole fitness thing but what do I know I was dumb enough to go to law school. But seriously, I hope that I don't hit a wall where I become sad, depressed, and homeless because I'm enjoying law school way more than undergrad.
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Oct 31, 2010 05:28
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Alaemon posted:Don't worry, those of us on the court end of the equation hate reading them as much as you hate writing them! I have opposing counsel who outright lies about the cases in his motion. Makes everyone's lives suck. And I'm doing research on Halloween. woooooo. G-Mawwwwwww fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Oct 31, 2010 |
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Oct 31, 2010 05:36
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Yeah the whole "I'll fall back on JAG" thing doesn't work out so hot, it is ridiculously competitive to get into any branch.
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Oct 31, 2010 05:38
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This motion talk can't be any worse than def atty motions wherein the entire thing has been lifted from a previous case. And by everything, I mean the old fact pattern is still in there. Hmm... defendant should get a new trial because police improperly raided his home. Funny, I thought this was an agg bat outside a club... oh wait nvm the defence attorney is mildly retarded 
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Oct 31, 2010 05:58
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Shang Yang posted:This motion talk can't be any worse than def atty motions wherein the entire thing has been lifted from a previous case. And by everything, I mean the old fact pattern is still in there.
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Oct 31, 2010 06:00
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nm posted:What is worse is writing a motion where the fact pattern is exactly the same as in the case you're citing and you still don't know if you'll win because the judge loves the DA. maybe the judge loves the DA because he is a shining paragon of virtue did you consider that also I am kind of doubtful, because every time I've heard or read a def atty say that the fact patterns are the same, they're invariably different. it's like def attys live in an alternate universe
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Oct 31, 2010 06:03
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Stunt Rock posted:Discovery sucks. I like discovery.  But I imagine discovery is a little more interesting in the crim defense world, especially as so much of what I get is audio/video. PS gently caress the police
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Oct 31, 2010 06:47
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My friend just got a 156 on her LSAT and I just made an rear end of myself trying my damnedest to convince her to at least retake it if it didn't dissuade her from going to law school. She's a smart girl but she's one of those people who decide that they want to be a lawyer after doing poorly in their freshman year of pre-med 
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Oct 31, 2010 06:51
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So you got a C in your organic chemistry? D+ actually, how did you know?
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Oct 31, 2010 06:57
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Shang Yang posted:maybe the judge loves the DA because he is a shining paragon of virtue
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Oct 31, 2010 07:22
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Save me jeebus posted:I like discovery. Plus discovery in crim defense is, like, a 20 minute tape of the traffic stop and a picture of / access to the knife, and is not 17,000 emails about Tonka Truck label contracts.
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Oct 31, 2010 08:22
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CaptainScraps posted:God does it ever. No they don't. Lots of billables, and it is when you usually figure out what the case is about.
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BigHead posted:Plus discovery in crim defense is, like, a 20 minute tape of the traffic stop and a picture of / access to the knife, and is not 17,000 emails about Tonka Truck label contracts. Except when it's 68 hours of your client's phone calls from the jail, dumped on you 10 days before trial. In Spanish.
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Oct 31, 2010 14:15
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MSJs own and are a defense lawyer's reason for living
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Oct 31, 2010 15:39
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Solomon Grundy posted:No they don't. Lots of billables, and it is when you usually figure out what the case is about. I feel bad because I'm going to have like 8 to 10 hours of billables from scanning 2 years worth of emails to send for discovery and if I had any sort of support staff I could just make them do it and charge way less. So far I'm sitting at 289 documents scanned yesterday and will probably hit 500 today.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:MSJs own and are a defense lawyer's reason for living Defense lawyer gets $2000-$2500 for writing one. I get $100 for writing the response and my boss gets nothing. And we usually win. And then defense counsel usually files another one to get a second bite at the apple, despite his only new evidence being new affidavits from his experts and opposing counsel in the underlying case. And then...well, gently caress if I know, hearing Tuesday. G-Mawwwwwww fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Oct 31, 2010 |
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Oct 31, 2010 17:09
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Solomon Grundy posted:No they don't. Lots of billables, and it is when you usually figure out what the case is about. This. And when you win as a defendant, your client is stoked.
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joat mon posted:Would you be going PLC-LAW, or straight OCS without a law guarantee and thinking you'll pick JAG up later? Yep, PLC-Law. I'm still learning a lot about the specifics, and will probably get a fair amount wrong as things progress- but I believe you are correct about JAG being merely the MOS. That's part of what actively interests me about it. Of course "going JAG" is not a guarantee and it's definitely not a fall back but I'm giving it my full attention currently. I'm finishing up my rough application with my OSO's guidance and attending various applicant pool events where we do PFT's and different "class-room" experiences like land navigation and compass work.
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Oct 31, 2010 19:27
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Mookie posted:This. And when you win as a defendant, your client is stoked. And then you get to bill for an appeal, too.
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Oct 31, 2010 20:01
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Solomon Grundy posted:And then you get to bill for an appeal, too. Done and done!
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Oct 31, 2010 20:32
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Yojimbo Sancho posted:I'm finishing up my rough application with my OSO's guidance and attending various applicant pool events where we do PFT's and different "class-room" experiences like land navigation and compass work. Haha it's so funny how much different Army JAG is than Marine JAG. I was an enlisted Marine and I'll take chillaxing behind my desk as an Army JAG over that oorah semper fidelis motivator bullshit anytime, I care not if there are fatbodies sitting next to me.
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Solomon Grundy posted:And then you get to bill for an appeal, too. You people are monsters. 
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