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sirbeefalot posted:Curse me for getting a deal on the jacket, though. You might not have to provide your purchase price, they should pay you market rate for your gear--find the most expensive listing of the jacket at a reputable site and don't submit your receipt.
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ohwandernearer posted:You might not have to provide your purchase price, they should pay you market rate for your gear--find the most expensive listing of the jacket at a reputable site and don't submit your receipt. Ok, I'll try that. They don't even make the jacket anymore, I'll just look for a similar one I guess. E: Or just google shop it, duh. sirbeefalot fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Nov 5, 2010 |
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Nov 5, 2010 16:55
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Please stop crashing CA
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Nov 5, 2010 17:23
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Yeah, get your poo poo together California
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sirbeefalot posted:I was sideswiped on the 10 East in LA yesterday, around 4:45 pm, right before the National Blvd exit. I was splitting in the right side of the #3 lane, and a silver Pontiac Sunfire came either from the left side of the #3, or from the #2 (I didn't even see the car until I was watching my arm take her passenger mirror off), and tried to get into the #4 lane via me. I closed my eyes immediately after getting hit in the left side, but I think I was tossed off the bike and hit on my right shoulder/forearm, then rolled and slid a little bit. There was zero opportunity to try and control the bike, which is why I think I was hit hard enough to be thrown right away. I was going 40-45, traffic was going 35-40. A good tip whilst lane-splitting is not to watch for wheels turning or indicators coming on, but to watch drivers' heads. Even complete muppets will turn the head a little when they're going to change lanes.
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Nov 6, 2010 06:54
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I was originally admonishing sirbeefalot in my head for lane splitting at such a high speed, then I looked up CA law. Anywhere I've been that lane splitting was allowed, it was at low speeds. California, on the other hand, has no real restrictions it seems. Good legally, but still dangerous. I don't think I'd feel comfortable doing it over 25 or 30 because I ride a motorcycle and I know how little attention people pay. That said, I'm glad it sounds like it will work out for you!
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I don't think speed matters, but rather speed differential. As long as you're only going 5-10mph above traffic there should be no issue. Also, where have you been that only permits filtering at low speed? Not in the US, right?
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2ndclasscitizen posted:A good tip whilst lane-splitting is not to watch for wheels turning or indicators coming on, but to watch drivers' heads. Even complete muppets will turn the head a little when they're going to change lanes. Definitely, and I do this. I didn't see her car (or I don't remember seeing it) until the point of impact, which was surprising because I am constantly marking cars anywhere near my path of travel that have a chance to interfere with me. She was either blocked from my view by another car, or came from another lane entirely. I'm pretty sure for her statement she said she was traveling straight in the lane she hit me from, so its possible there was just a larger car behind her. People like to drive about 3 feet apart in LA, so that's not completely impossible. And on the speed, that's definitely the upper end of what I normally will split at. I'm pretty sure the "unwritten" rule is not to split with a differential higher than 15 mph, and not to split when traffic is faster than 45 mph. The differential is important, but you really open yourself up to much more risk the faster everyone is going. I see people split on my morning commute going 90-95 mph when the traffic is cruising at 70, and it makes my balls jump into my throat.
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Nov 6, 2010 16:56
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Sounds like you were just poo poo outta luck this time dude 
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Synonamess Botch posted:I don't think speed matters, but rather speed differential. As long as you're only going 5-10mph above traffic there should be no issue. I tried to think of it, then realized that it was probably related to me anecdotally and when I went to look up places I'd been that allowed it (Cali, the UK, France, maybe the dutch or germans? not sure) none of them seemed to have that as part of the law, mostly just no more than X over traffic. So I guess it was just some bullshit I've believed for a while. Thanks.
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Neckbeard v. 2.0 posted:I tried to think of it, then realized that it was probably related to me anecdotally and when I went to look up places I'd been that allowed it (Cali, the UK, France, maybe the dutch or germans? not sure) none of them seemed to have that as part of the law, mostly just no more than X over traffic. As I recall California used to limit lane splitting speed to 25mph or so. The CHP supposedly pushed for that limit to be removed. This is anecdotal though.
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OrangeFurious posted:As I recall California used to limit lane splitting speed to 25mph or so. The CHP supposedly pushed for that limit to be removed. This is anecdotal though. I was surprised to learn last year (when I was reading up on California Motorcycle Laws prior to a visit to Santa Barbara) that the law had changed, and that the limit had been removed.
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When I got my license in 04(?) the law was not faster than 45mph, not at a differential of more than 15mph, and not on single lane roads. Sometime around 06 or 07, it changed to "lane sharing is not recommended but legal when done in a safe and prudent fashion".
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Isn't the whole point of splitting to get through slow-moving traffic (and free up the space you'd be otherwise using to help reduce congestion for everyone else)? It seems like splitting in 50mph traffic would just be showing off.
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Nov 7, 2010 05:16
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Yeah the diminishing returns on lanesplitting means anything much over 30mph is just doing it cause you can.
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Nov 7, 2010 05:32
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Jack the Smack update: http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351601 Never change, man.
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Nov 7, 2010 08:41
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I just posted that in the chat thread as I figured it'd get off topic fast. I mean, come on, there's not a lot of positive to come when he wheelies a drunk chick off the back of a bike. Someone should grab the pics an posts for history's sake though.
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Inertiatic posted:Jack the Smack update: what a loving idiot
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It's funny, when I was first thinking about taking my MSF, I read all the way through several threads here as research. I remember seeing JTS's posts and being completely unsure if he was just being sarcastic, or if he's really that much of an idiot. It just didn't seem possible that somebody could be posting in a forum with so much good advice, and yet be the antithesis to every single bit of it. I'm glad the girl wasn't hurt badly.
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Low water crossings suck. TsavenNava and I go out for a nice leisurely cruise through the Hill Country (me two up with my wife, him two up with a lady friend of his), and I wind up dropping my bike in front of him. Yeah, I'm smooth like that. We were heading west on Fitzhough Road / Pedernales Falls Road, when we came to this http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...014269&t=h&z=16 I've been through low water crossings before on the ST, and it's never been a big deal. There was a pickup truck that we had just watched go through the water, so we could tell it wasn't too deep and wasn't moving very fast. I slowed the ST down, and was rolling in first at maybe 5 miles an hour with the throttle ever so slightly cracked. We got almost all the way through the running water when I felt the rear of the bike start sliding to the left. I kept my head up and throttle input the same, hoping to ride it out. Unfortunately, the rear tire fishtailed the other direction, and instead of making it through, the bike just sort of... fell over on its left side and spun 180* in the middle of the bridge. Tsaven was about 5 - 8 lengths behind me and right about the time my bike is spinning around on the ground, he was hitting the slickest part of what put me down. He managed to not drop the Strom, and to not run us over, yay! My wife bumped her elbows on the ground when she slid off her seat, but it's nothing serious. Her still healing broken arm is fine, and she only has a small red mark from where the pad in the jacket rubbed on her skin. I dragged my knee and lower left leg on the ground, no marks though, just some dirt on my overpants and my gloves got wet. I did bang my right leg into the side of the bike, but I just have a small bruise there, nothing serious. The bike laughed it off. Since it skidded on the front tip over wing and rear crash bar, there was no damage to the bike at all.
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Z3n posted:Someone should grab the pics an posts for history's sake though. Ask and ye shall receive. JTS - How To Lose Your Girl In 10 Seconds: Jack The Smack posted:At around 3AM on Wednesday night my passenger, 130lbs I guess (she wont tell me her weight) fell off the back of my bike at 75mph. It was a dark, deserted straight road luckily. Alcohol was involved; she had drank a few beers and was still tipsy. I was sober after having a beer a few hours ago. And the followup: Jack The Smack posted:To clarify some things, she and I are the only ones that drive aggressively. She enjoys doing wheelies and high speed. I choose the safest spots to do things (empty road at night was a good place, not a good anything else). I failed to consider alcohol and proper warning before doing it that time. If it were any other person who I didn't have experience with I wouldn't be doing illegal and dangerous stunts. This doesn't excuse my responsibiliy, but I don't wanna appear like I'm taking her for a ride she doesn't want. Frozen Pizza Party fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Nov 8, 2010 |
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If that hand rash had been just an inch or two lower, he'd at least have done her the service of removing those horrible tattoos.
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SlightlyMadman posted:If that hand rash had been just an inch or two lower, he'd at least have done her the service of removing those horrible tattoos. Was thinking that myself, but didn't want to be the one to say it. Thanks 
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Raven457 posted:Low water crossings suck. I just want to chime in and say that this concret was SLICK AS ICE. I mean, I know people make that analogy all the time, but it was no exaggeration here. Once we got the bike picked up and I was poking around, with just a few strides of a running start I could slide across the pavement easily. I think it was a combination of the cement being polished smooth by the water, and alge growth that combined to make it one of the slippriest things I've EVER had to try and ride on. I was only milliseconds away from dumping my Wee-Strom avoiding Raven. I really have no idea how I kept it upright, I was sliding around all over the place.
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SlightlyMadman posted:If that hand rash had been just an inch or two lower, he'd at least have done her the service of removing those horrible tattoos. What do you have against Wingdings?
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Crashed tonight. Saw frost on my car's windshield. Don't know why I ignored it. Gave my triumph too much gas as I came out of a right turn on to a main drag. Went sideways for a few feet and then the bike went over. Fairing damage. Shifter and rider/passenger pegs ripped off. Left handlebar bent. Rideable. Took it home in first gear. Helmet seems reuseable. No lost time. Still annoying. nothing more embarassing than a sub 20 mph throttle mistake.
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Embarrassing maybe but at least you came out alright, it would be way more embarrassing if that landed you in the hospital. I've only hit the ground once and it was at 0 speed so it's the same kind of thing. I locked up the rear brake when i was new to riding on some leaves at a stop sign, and the bike came to a stop with the rear wheel a foot or two to the left of the front. The bike just tipped and hurt my pride and brake levers. That's always better than tipping the bike and breaking a leg or something, hah.
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TheCosmicMuffet posted:Crashed tonight. Saw frost on my car's windshield. Don't know why I ignored it. If you had a supermoto you could have weighted the outside peg, gassed it, and completed the drift and then pretend it was intentional. 
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Riding in the snow is fine as long as you accept that you're going to crash a lot. It's a real beast and even when you get used to it you'll still probably dump it all the time. Personally I've only done it with street bikes. But a couple of my uncles-in-law who used to be motocross racers, they say it's not much easier with a dirt bike. Then again they would all be drunk and high or whatever so I dunno.
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FuzzyWuzzyBear posted:If you had a supermoto you could have weighted the outside peg, gassed it, and completed the drift and then pretend it was intentional. This happens to me on my KTM. Wet road paint, wet leaves, spilled oils (we have a LOT of that), frosty roads: You're accelerating out of a turn or pulling out from a side road and suddenly the bike's sideways. You keep the throttle steady and before you have time to leave a stain in your skivvies everything just rights itself. Supermotos are so good they make you cooler by accident.
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I was going down my favorite twisty this evening, when all of the sudden I felt my back wheel slipping out. It wasn't quite cold enough for ice, so I was confused and slowed down a bit to figure it out. Everything seemed fine so I figured I hit an oil patch or something (pretty dark out so I couldn't see much), and I proceeded on into the next one. As soon as I do so, the exact same thing happened and next thing I know I'm on the ground. Thankfully I wasn't going fast since I noticed it before, and not even a scratch on me or my gear. The bike is pretty much fine, with just some scrapes on the grips and pipe, and the clutch peg popped off. It was in 2nd, so I managed to just ride it home that way without changing gears at all. Turns out there was a giant slick of oil all over the road. I'll have to take a different route to and from work to give that time to wash away, I guess.
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Good job on slowing down and trying to figure out what was going on, and reducing the damage as a result Everything going to be easy enough to repair? It also might be worth reporting it to caltrans or what have you in your area if you have one.
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Yeah, the only thing that I really need to do is replace the clutch peg and maybe one of the mirrors. I can't seem to find replacement clutch pegs online, but I can just take it to the dealer this weekend, since it's still pretty much rideable. I'm certainly glad I slowed down, although I wish I'd taken it more seriously and actually checked the ground better for the source of the problem. Also of course I'm sure a more seasoned rider could have managed to keep the rubber side down despite the oil slick, but at least now I'm a little more prepared for that situation. If I feel the back popping out to the side like that, what's the correct response? I'd think I should give it some throttle to straighten out, but if the rear loses traction then suddenly regains it, that can cause a high-side, right? I'm also lucky that a car behind me happened to also stop and help me pick the bike up, and even followed me a couple blocks to make sure I was ok. I rode the whole way home super slow, because I couldn't shake the feeling that I still wasn't getting proper traction. Could have just been my imagination from being shaken up, or there could have been some oil still left on my tires.
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I think what normally happens is the rear starts to slip out and then you... fall. At least I do. But at least you minimized it, which is all you can do in your situation. That super curved lever isn't the first.
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If the back starts sliding, turn into the slide, let the bike slip under you, get on the outside edge of the seat, and ride it out. More throttle will not make it straighten out, more throttle just reduces the traction budget and makes you slip more. Spend some time skidding the back tire on a bicycle to understand. Try skid turns on a steep hill for advanced level practice. It's easier than it sounds.
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Just avoid abrupt movements and let the bike do it's thing, you'll be fine. By the way, riding a supersport in dirt is loving awesome.
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BlackMK4 posted:Just avoid abrupt movements and let the bike do it's thing, you'll be fine. http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?88535-fernley-vet-national-and-GP-pics  Click here for the full 1024x683 image.
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SlightlyMadman posted:If I feel the back popping out to the side like that, what's the correct response? I'd think I should give it some throttle to straighten out, but if the rear loses traction then suddenly regains it, that can cause a high-side, right? . Sometimes there's just not a whole lot you can do though, especially when outside factors like oil, gravel, sand, ice, etc are involved. If you haven't read it, Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist II is really great for explaining what you should do in a potential crash situation, and more importantly, what you should avoid doing.
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SlightlyMadman posted:. you wrecked her already? :-( Glad you are ok, though. Where did this giant oil slick happen? I'd like to avoid it.
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ohwandernearer posted:you wrecked her already? :-( Nah, she's fine, just has some matching scuff marks on the other side to make things symmetrical  It's on San Martin, right on the fun bit. Big streak going right down the middle of the Northbound lane. Hopefully we'll get some rain soon or something to wash it away.
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