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I know the clone wars show is a mixed bag here, but I really like it. I'm going through the season two dvds for the first time, and I'm continually surprised at how adult this show (usually) is. Torturing a jedi to death? Flamethrowers on geonosians? In the middle of the brain stealers episode, and it's cool seeing hints of anakin's turn when he force chokes poggle. Jesus Bariss Offee just begged Ahsoka to kill her. Does this keep up?
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Kingtheninja posted:I know the clone wars show is a mixed bag here, but I really like it. I'm going through the season two dvds for the first time, and I'm continually surprised at how adult this show (usually) is. Torturing a jedi to death? Flamethrowers on geonosians? In the middle of the brain stealers episode, and it's cool seeing hints of anakin's turn when he force chokes poggle. Jesus Bariss Offee just begged Ahsoka to kill her. Does this keep up? I really liked that Geonosis invasion 2-parter with the flamethrowers at first, but it was kind of troubling. The series takes pretty much every opportunity to vilify the Separatists and it all feel really unnecessary and forced. They use human shields, they kill civilians, they even talk evil-y. All that's missing are evil mustachios on all the droids. In fights the clones just take hits and fall over, but in that invasion episode for instance, they have these bug people screaming whilst on fire and being dismembered and apparently it's all ok because they're "the bad guys". I know the series isn't supposed to be thought provoking high art but then they'll do some boring council poo poo that's supposed to be all shades of gray and it's totally in opposition to the action parts of the show.
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Nov 3, 2010 05:47
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Mister Roboto posted:I take it you've never been to the theforce.net forums, where Luke is OBVIOUSLY Jesus and so is Vader. Also, Mandalorians are the Jews. What the heck? Is ESB lacking in Christian morality somehow? How could someone rank it anywhere close to TPM?
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Nov 3, 2010 06:05
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Diacritical Mark posted:What the heck? Is ESB lacking in Christian morality somehow? How could someone rank it anywhere close to TPM? I'd be more worried he's e-married to a 17 year old girl, but maybe he's using Padme/Anakin as his moral center.
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Nov 3, 2010 06:18
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Kingtheninja posted:In the middle of the brain stealers episode, and it's cool seeing hints of anakin's turn when he force chokes poggle. Jesus Bariss Offee just begged Ahsoka to kill her. Does this keep up? I think thats the only episode I watched, and I loved how that one small scene of Anakin just saying 'I dont need mind tricks' and beating the gently caress outta that dude did more to show Anakins fall to the dark side way better than the entire PT.
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Nov 3, 2010 07:14
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Hey I thought you all would like to know that reading this thread has kept me from ever buying TFU 1 and 2, and when I had the inkling to do so over the weekend I didn't. Then I read page 53 and I decided not only will I never buy TFU, but...I may just...never do anything with Star Wars again. It's as if my adult self has murdered my inner child for the sole purpose of keeping it pure and untainted, forever naive of what the real world is like and will do to it.
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Nov 3, 2010 08:40
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DSM IV posted:
That's pretty drat close to how Anakin acts. Which begs the question, does the Jedi order even screen their "applicants" for personality disorders? At least have some sort of contingency plan in case one of your padewans starts showing signs of mental instability.
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Nov 3, 2010 15:47
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NeonTurtle posted:That's pretty drat close to how Anakin acts. Which begs the question, does the Jedi order even screen their "applicants" for personality disorders? At least have some sort of contingency plan in case one of your padewans starts showing signs of mental instability. The Jedi are naturally haughty and arrogant anyway so I imagine someone with NPD would slip right through based on personal bias.
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Nov 3, 2010 15:59
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Der Luftwaffle posted:I really liked that Geonosis invasion 2-parter with the flamethrowers at first, but it was kind of troubling. The series takes pretty much every opportunity to vilify the Separatists and it all feel really unnecessary and forced. They use human shields, they kill civilians, they even talk evil-y. All that's missing are evil mustachios on all the droids. I know there are some instances with clones dying a bit more brutally than normal. The brain stealers episode for instance, one of the possessed clones gets run through with a lightsaber. There are other examples I can't recall right now but they are definitely few and far between.
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Nov 3, 2010 16:48
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dialhforhero posted:Hey I thought you all would like to know that reading this thread has kept me from ever buying TFU 1 and 2, and when I had the inkling to do so over the weekend I didn't. Then I read page 53 and I decided not only will I never buy TFU, but...I may just...never do anything with Star Wars again. TFU 1 wasn't nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be, but yeah avoid 2.
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Nov 3, 2010 19:41
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Rent TFU at least if you want to try it out. Don't touch the PC version as it was a poo poo conversion. But get drunk and pretend not to give a poo poo about the canon while playing it.
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Nov 3, 2010 19:44
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Kingtheninja posted:I know there are some instances with clones dying a bit more brutally than normal. The brain stealers episode for instance, one of the possessed clones gets run through with a lightsaber. There are other examples I can't recall right now but they are definitely few and far between. There's a particularly brutal bit from Season 3, where Ventress impales a clone on her lightsaber. The kiss was cut from broadcast. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/ARC_Troopers_(episode)#Behind_the_scenes
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Nov 3, 2010 20:22
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TFU is honestly worth a play if you haven't played it. Just don't touch the Wii port either, not only is it ugly as gently caress but it repeats itself more than a Devil May Cry game in terms of level design.
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Nov 3, 2010 23:37
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:TFU is honestly worth a play if you haven't played it. Just don't touch the Wii port either, not only is it ugly as gently caress but it repeats itself more than a Devil May Cry game in terms of level design. The Wii/Playstation 2 version can be considered a completely separate game.
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Nov 4, 2010 01:06
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NeonTurtle posted:The Wii/Playstation 2 version can be considered a completely separate game. It's not exactly a port, more of something akin to a Hong Kong knock off. Most PS2 and Wii ports usually are to tell the truth.
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Nov 4, 2010 02:45
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:It's not exactly a port, more of something akin to a Hong Kong knock off. Most PS2 and Wii ports usually are to tell the truth. Yeah, who would've thought that trying to fit The Force Unleashed on last generation gaming systems would be problematic?
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Nov 5, 2010 00:02
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NGL posted:There's a particularly brutal bit from Season 3, where Ventress impales a clone on her lightsaber. The kiss was cut from broadcast. Holy poo poo.
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Nov 5, 2010 00:36
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Has anyone gotten The Jedi Path? I'm kind of tempted to manchild it up after Christmas and get it from Amazon.
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Nov 5, 2010 04:21
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gently caress no, it's the most retarded thing yet.
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Nov 5, 2010 04:23
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Casimir Radon posted:gently caress no, it's the most retarded thing yet. The Force tester is worse but the Jedi Path is pretty bad and overpriced. I honestly just want to read it but I've never seen a physical copy of it. My passing interest in it is pretty awful I admit as well.
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Nov 5, 2010 11:10
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:The Force tester is worse but the Jedi Path is pretty bad and overpriced. I honestly just want to read it but I've never seen a physical copy of it. My passing interest in it is pretty awful I admit as well. Have you tried looking around your local library? My local library allows me to check every library in the state for a book. If anyone has it, they'll ship it on over so I can check it out. Maybe yours has something similar.
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Nov 5, 2010 21:44
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NeonTurtle posted:Have you tried looking around your local library? My local library allows me to check every library in the state for a book. If anyone has it, they'll ship it on over so I can check it out. Maybe yours has something similar. A library in New Jersey and another in Washington both have it apparently. It's also checked out with holds in both cases as well. I think I'll just wait until they come out with a non-vault, not so ridiculous edition. I like reading about the Jedi but from what I've found online it doesn't seem to be something to go crazy over by any stretch.
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Nov 5, 2010 23:31
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NeonTurtle posted:Have you tried looking around your local library? My local library allows me to check every library in the state for a book. If anyone has it, they'll ship it on over so I can check it out. Maybe yours has something similar. Interlibrary loan is a wonderful thing that many (if not most) libraries participate in. Most people are oblivious to this fact. It's a shame, really. It's like pre-internet file-sharing.
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Nov 5, 2010 23:37
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NGL posted:Interlibrary loan is a wonderful thing that many (if not most) libraries participate in. Most people are oblivious to this fact. It's a shame, really. It's like pre-internet file-sharing. Tell me about it. I was able to put in a request for "The Secret History of Star Wars" from some college. Sure beats having to buy the book.
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Nov 5, 2010 23:40
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It'd be loving hilarious if they let you check out the vault version, even more so from interlibrary loan.
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Casimir Radon posted:It'd be loving hilarious if they let you check out the vault version, even more so from interlibrary loan. I'm sure they would just glue all the extra crap into the book itself as pages. That's what they usually do with errata and maps. I would imagine some education libraries at major universities would have it as an in library use only item. My former college's had all kinds of ridiculous children's books and toys that you could check out for a few hours.
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Pope Mobile posted:Also doesn't help that Kenobi acts like he's pure evil through the whole OT. No mention of "Oh, yeah, by the way. I should probably tell you that, despite all the hosed up poo poo he did, your mother believed there is still some good in him. Perhaps there is." Well... Padme got killed for her trouble, which (a) arguably proves her assessment - driven as it is by some unJedi feelings of attachment wrong, and (b) highlights the risks involved in giving peace a chance when dealing with the guy, so Obi-Wan wouldn't want to risk his new golden boy, and has no problem lying to serve his own agenda. ImpAtom posted:It's not really explained. As mentioned there's some indication he's letting himself get captured. This doesn't explain why either of the Jedi present as his capture don't wonder what the deal is with him not force choking everything in a three mile radius. It's well in line with Obi-Wan in that energy field in AotC being helpless as a bantha cub  Which was also dumb as hell, but also it was OMG-Canon or whatever. yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Nov 8, 2010 |
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Angry Midwesterner posted:It's well in line with Obi-Wan in that energy field in AotC being helpless as a bantha cub Another possible explanation is that Starkiller's clone fried the poo poo out of Vader's suit with his amplified force lightning and he was running on a combination of barely-functioning life support equipment and a considerable portion of his dark side powers to survive. Seriously, though, how the gently caress did Vader live through that assault only to keel over to ten seconds of Palpatine's lightning in RotJ?
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Nov 8, 2010 02:03
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TwoSheds posted:Another possible explanation is that Starkiller's clone fried the poo poo out of Vader's suit with his amplified force lightning and he was running on a combination of barely-functioning life support equipment and a considerable portion of his dark side powers to survive. Seriously, though, how the gently caress did Vader live through that assault only to keel over to ten seconds of Palpatine's lightning in RotJ? Obviously because as per the Saga Edition RPG Palpatine was a level 20 character at that time. Starkiller was maybe lvl 16 at the time of TFU2. All issues with TFU can be dealt with by saying its fanfiction while the original trilogy was a masterpiece of science fiction. Vader died because it had meaning, not because of some 13 year old's dream scenario.
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TwoSheds posted:Another possible explanation is that Starkiller's clone fried the poo poo out of Vader's suit with his amplified force lightning and he was running on a combination of barely-functioning life support equipment and a considerable portion of his dark side powers to survive. Seriously, though, how the gently caress did Vader live through that assault only to keel over to ten seconds of Palpatine's lightning in RotJ? Palpatine had higher
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Nov 8, 2010 02:45
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:Obviously because as per the Saga Edition RPG Palpatine was a level 20 character at that time. Starkiller was maybe lvl 16 at the time of TFU2. Not really because it is considered movie-level canon according to GL.
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Nov 8, 2010 03:06
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LLJKSiLk posted:Not really because it is considered movie-level canon according to GL. Personal canon is the only canon.
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Nov 8, 2010 03:30
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LLJKSiLk posted:Not really because it is considered movie-level canon according to GL. The last person who's going to tell me how to enjoy Star Wars is George Lucas, which is why I can still enjoy the OT without the burden of the ridiculous-sounding EU (most of which I've never read) and wondering how video games apply to some ridiculous sense of fiction "canon".
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Derek Dominoe posted:The last person who's going to tell me how to enjoy Star Wars is George Lucas, which is why I can still enjoy the OT without the burden of the ridiculous-sounding EU (most of which I've never read) and wondering how video games apply to some ridiculous sense of fiction "canon". I agree with you. But you have the two sides of the argument. We each enjoy Star Wars in our own way. I for instance, am a big fan of I.M.P.S. and enjoy seeing a more sympathetic/realistic view of the Empire instead of the cartoonishly evil caricatures we are asked to accept by George Lucas. But on the flip side, people will say "nah nah I don't care what the books say the whole Empire is evil!"
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Derek Dominoe posted:The last person who's going to tell me how to enjoy Star Wars is George Lucas, which is why I can still enjoy the OT without the burden of the ridiculous-sounding EU (most of which I've never read) and wondering how video games apply to some ridiculous sense of fiction "canon". Nothing in the EU is worse than what Lucas put into the prequels. Midichlorians, Shmi's virgin birth, Anakin building Threepio (to help his mom do ???), Gungans, elected 14-year-old queens. And that's not even the worst prequel movie. Seriously, what's the stupidest thing in the EU books/comics, the Jedi Prince series? At least those made some kind of sense compared to the Trade Federation dispute. I can understand why Trioculus was hunting endangered Whaladons, even if it's stupid. I have no goddamned idea what is going on in The Phantom Menace.
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Suenteus Po posted:Nothing in the EU is worse than what Lucas put into the prequels. Three words: Psychic Force Clit.
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Nov 8, 2010 05:36
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NGL posted:Three words: Psychic Force Clit. Does this have something to do with FoTJ?
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NGL posted:Three words: Psychic Force Clit. Ok, I really need to know the context behind this one.
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If we're going to fight over which has stupider concepts (EU or movies) we might as well just give up and go get laid. It is a argument without an answer.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Does this have something to do with FoTJ? No. Nucleic Acids posted:Ok, I really need to know the context behind this one. I don't remember which novel it's from (there's a bit with Lando betting on blob racing), but at one point, Luke starts psychically exploring Leia's brain (for Force sensitivity, I believe) and in the very back, he finds a little psychic protuberance. When he... probes it with the Force, it knocks him on his rear end. Only Force-sensitive have the psychic Force clit.
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