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the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT
There Will Be Blood:

I thought it was rather vague with that. He could have easily paid off that butler and whoever else happened to be in the house. I don't believe "I'm finished" is a reference to his demise, but a declaration of accomplishment.

He's beaten his one true rival for good. He's taken everything he possibly can. He's satisfied. He says "I'm finished" in such a way that he could be referring to his plate of dinner.

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Rake Arms
Sep 15, 2007

It's just not the same without widescreen.

Magic Hate Ball posted:

I kind of like the ending because it really is just the end. He's killed a man, the end. No weaseling out, he'll go to prison, he'll lose his fortunes, and essentially the tiny wisp of person that could be considered Daniel Plainview will dissipate.

I actually thought the opposite. He's a rich, powerful man with no sense of ethics. He won't be punished for murder because he's above punishment. He'll buy his way out or just cover the whole thing up. To me, it's the end because it's probably the last moment of passion in Daniel's life. His son has left him, his worst enemy is dead, and now he's free to quietly drink himself to death.

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

Two questions. The first I may have already asked here before, but I forgot if it was answered or not.

1.) Is the Blu-ray edition of The Return of the Living Dead the same exact neutered version as the MGM DVD with the shortened and/or absent songs and Tarman's re-recorded voice (along with a couple of other zombies ie. "Send more cops.")? My sister wanted to buy the Blu-ray, but I told her to wait until I had proof it's the same as the DVD.

2.) What is the exact name and artist of the old-timey song that plays on the victrola in the basement and is used in the end credits of The Evil Dead? Most sources say it's "Charleston" without knowing the artist, but it sounds different than the Charleston I know. This is obviously a newer recording of it, but it still says "Charleston." Help a brotha' out.

Edit: If I'd just read the YouTube summary, I'd find out it is a stock library track called "Charleston" by Erik Markman. Doy. Okay, but is the Evil Dead version a newer recording made to sound like an old 78 RPM record, or is it really that old?

You Are A Werewolf fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Nov 12, 2010

penismightier
Dec 6, 2005

What the hell, I'll just eat some trash.

You Are A Elf posted:

1.) Is the Blu-ray edition of The Return of the Living Dead the same exact neutered version as the MGM DVD with the shortened and/or absent songs and Tarman's re-recorded voice (along with a couple of other zombies ie. "Send more cops.")? My sister wanted to buy the Blu-ray, but I told her to wait until I had proof it's the same as the DVD.

The easy way to tell is if the laughing in The Damned song starts after the Colonel talks, right? Blu-Ray is the version with the laughter.

Bobfromsales
Apr 2, 2010

You Are A Elf posted:


Edit: If I'd just read the YouTube summary, I'd find out it is a stock library track called "Charleston" by Erik Markman. Doy. Okay, but is the Evil Dead version a newer recording made to sound like an old 78 RPM record, or is it really that old?

You could check the end credits of the film which should have the recording date listed.


Edit: I checked, it's not there, but considering the composor was born in 1934 and most of his credits start in the 60s it's not really that old.

But thanks to you I discovered this amazing thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7rx0iuzO4Y

Bobfromsales fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Nov 12, 2010

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Rake Arms posted:

I actually thought the opposite. He's a rich, powerful man with no sense of ethics. He won't be punished for murder because he's above punishment. He'll buy his way out or just cover the whole thing up. To me, it's the end because it's probably the last moment of passion in Daniel's life. His son has left him, his worst enemy is dead, and now he's free to quietly drink himself to death.

I'm on a similar track to yours, but he's finished in that everything about which he cared, good or bad, is gone or dead. He's alienated his son, he's achieved all that he could financially, and he's killed his enemy - there is just nothing left for him. Whether he goes to prison (or hangs), or buys his way out is immaterial - his life is effectively over. He has nothing left to live for, no love, or hate, to sustain him. He's finished.

Plus he's drunk all the milkshake.

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

penismightier posted:

The easy way to tell is if the laughing in The Damned song starts after the Colonel talks, right? Blu-Ray is the version with the laughter.

Aha, so it is the original untouched version (like the one I have on an old VHS)? I looked up your bit of info on IMDb and that means it's the original version, but a few reviews online still say it's the neutered version... Are these people nuts?. The one thing I remember on the DVD is that "Burn the Flames" is severely shortened and just kind of fades out as Frank gets in the crematorium leaving him to scream without any music and effectively changing the mood of the scene. This clip right here is the original version I have on VHS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS23CWl4lUE&fmt=18

If the Blu-ray is the original version, I can get finally get rid of my lovely DVD and retire my VHS copy :neckbeard:

Bobfromsales posted:

You could check the end credits of the film which should have the recording date listed.

Edit: I checked, it's not there, but considering the composor was born in 1934 and most of his credits start in the 60s it's not really that old.

Yep, did that and also checked IMDb which doesn't even have a soundtrack listing for the movie. I guess I'll settle for seeking out the stock library version which was also used in Creepshow and I think the intro was used in Twice Upon a Time. Now there's a movie I would love to see get a proper release.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

the Bunt posted:

There Will Be Blood:

I thought it was rather vague with that. He could have easily paid off that butler and whoever else happened to be in the house. I don't believe "I'm finished" is a reference to his demise, but a declaration of accomplishment.

He's beaten his one true rival for good. He's taken everything he possibly can. He's satisfied. He says "I'm finished" in such a way that he could be referring to his plate of dinner.

I think it's a bit of both. I take it as "I've accomplished everything that I wanted and now have nothing left to live for".

Umbriago
Aug 27, 2004

Sorry if this isn't the right thread for asking about recommendations.

What films would you recommend to someone who really enjoyed Little Miss Sunshine and wanted to watch other off-beat but uplifting films? Cheers!

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

Umbriago posted:

Sorry if this isn't the right thread for asking about recommendations.

What films would you recommend to someone who really enjoyed Little Miss Sunshine and wanted to watch other off-beat but uplifting films? Cheers!

Watch The Host. It's essentially Little Miss Sunshine combined with a monster movie.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

Umbriago posted:

Sorry if this isn't the right thread for asking about recommendations.

What films would you recommend to someone who really enjoyed Little Miss Sunshine and wanted to watch other off-beat but uplifting films? Cheers!

Check out Wes Anderson's movies (if you haven't already) and what seems to be the grandaddy of that tone, Harold and Maude.

Edit: Also, there's a recommendation thread here.

morestuff fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Nov 12, 2010

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.

You Are A Elf posted:

Aha, so it is the original untouched version (like the one I have on an old VHS)? I looked up your bit of info on IMDb and that means it's the original version, but a few reviews online still say it's the neutered version... Are these people nuts?. The one thing I remember on the DVD is that "Burn the Flames" is severely shortened and just kind of fades out as Frank gets in the crematorium leaving him to scream without any music and effectively changing the mood of the scene. This clip right here is the original version I have on VHS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS23CWl4lUE&fmt=18

If the Blu-ray is the original version, I can get finally get rid of my lovely DVD and retire my VHS copy :neckbeard:

I didn't respond, because I didn't know there was an untouched version, thus I couldn't compare the Blu-Ray to the DVD version. Also, I couldn't remember watching the older DVD version. But, I am 99% sure that 'Burn the Flames,' plays throughout Frank's scene on the Blu-Ray. I saw it a few weeks ago, so I am going on memory, but I don't remember anything else happening in that scene.

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

Twin Cinema posted:

I didn't respond, because I didn't know there was an untouched version, thus I couldn't compare the Blu-Ray to the DVD version. Also, I couldn't remember watching the older DVD version. But, I am 99% sure that 'Burn the Flames,' plays throughout Frank's scene on the Blu-Ray. I saw it a few weeks ago, so I am going on memory, but I don't remember anything else happening in that scene.

Well, I bit the bullet and bought the Blu-ray while out earlier today. 'Twas all for nought, though. The Blu-ray is the neutered DVD version with the shortened music and re-recorded zombie voices (and that includes the shortened "Burn the Flames" that fades out before the scene is over). gently caress :( The picture quality isn't nothing to write home about, either (better than the DVD, but not by much).

I'm going to see if I can't return it for store credit or something else. I don't think I'm going to hang onto it and just stick with my cheapo DVD and old VHS tape. It's rather pedantic of me to say gently caress it to the version I speak of here, but is it really too much to ask to have the original version that has the badass music and Tarman's voice as it should be?

Thanks for the help anyway, CD folks.

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.

You Are A Elf posted:

Well, I bit the bullet and bought the Blu-ray while out earlier today. 'Twas all for nought, though. The Blu-ray is the neutered DVD version with the shortened music and re-recorded zombie voices (and that includes the shortened "Burn the Flames" that fades out before the scene is over). gently caress :( The picture quality isn't nothing to write home about, either (better than the DVD, but not by much).

I'm going to see if I can't return it for store credit or something else. I don't think I'm going to hang onto it and just stick with my cheapo DVD and old VHS tape. It's rather pedantic of me to say gently caress it to the version I speak of here, but is it really too much to ask to have the original version that has the badass music and Tarman's voice as it should be?

Thanks for the help anyway, CD folks.

I just pulled out my DVD copy (the one that came with the Blu-Ray) and I now see exactly what you were talking about. I didn't notice the difference, as you can see from my response. What a weird change.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Hm, okay so this may not be the place to put this since it's a request, but does anyone happen to have a screenshot of (or just the source of) the Coen Brothers giant bookshelf full of unfilmed scripts? I remember seeing it in some documentary or behind-the-scenes footage of them and being blown away, but can't recall where I saw it.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
I'd give a few precious body organs to be able to read through that bookshelf.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I'm watching Scoll Pilgrim Vs The World, and while I recognize almost everything else in the film, the record store they're always in escapes me. It looks like the old Tower Records store at Young/Queen.

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.

twistedmentat posted:

I'm watching Scoll Pilgrim Vs The World, and while I recognize almost everything else in the film, the record store they're always in escapes me. It looks like the old Tower Records store at Young/Queen.

Sonic Boom in Toronto. It's near the Honest Ed's.

http://www.sonicboommusic.com/

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




I remember reading about how the New Line Cinema logo was very clever, but I didn't really understand the terms used to describe why it was so clever. Something to do with a split audio track or something like that. Can somebody explain to a layman what the symbolism of their logo is?

Dave1000
May 16, 2006
nothing
Does anyone in Canada have a Netflix account? What's the selection like?
The "Browse Selection" section of their website is pretty underwhelming.

Stabbing Spork
Apr 9, 2006

Dave1000 posted:

Does anyone in Canada have a Netflix account? What's the selection like?
The "Browse Selection" section of their website is pretty underwhelming.

It's pretty underwhelming.

The best movies are pretty much the same stuff you can see on cable. So unless you're into cheesy b-movies you're not going to find anything super interesting. The TV show selection is ok, but not really anything current.

But it is super cheap, and they are continually adding new stuff, so it's worth it for me.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

SkunkDuster posted:

I remember reading about how the New Line Cinema logo was very clever, but I didn't really understand the terms used to describe why it was so clever. Something to do with a split audio track or something like that. Can somebody explain to a layman what the symbolism of their logo is?

Here's a breakdown of the logo evolution. There's mention that Michael Kamen composed the audio portion of the logo so perhaps it is related to that?

http://www.closinglogos.com/page/New+Line+Cinema

Henron
Feb 19, 2010

Arms held out
In your Jesus Christ pose
So can someone tell me the significance of the character Buck in Boogie Nights? He really seemed like the only one who had any sort of dream or ambition in life but the path he took to achieve it was pretty unorthodox.

codyclarke
Jan 10, 2006

IDIOT SOUP

Henron posted:

So can someone tell me the significance of the character Buck in Boogie Nights? He really seemed like the only one who had any sort of dream or ambition in life but the path he took to achieve it was pretty unorthodox.

He also seems like the most innocent and well-meaning character. I think the donut scene serves as a metaphor for his relationship to the industry.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Henron posted:

So can someone tell me the significance of the character Buck in Boogie Nights? He really seemed like the only one who had any sort of dream or ambition in life but the path he took to achieve it was pretty unorthodox.

Whaaa? You don't think Eddie/Dirk had ambitions? In fact, in a big way the film is about how all these people's dreams of artistic integrity and respectability died once videotape porn came around.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
A lot of the characters do have a scene like that, where they've hit absolute rock bottom, and Buck is lucky because he's allowed a way out, as ugly as it is. Most of the others have to find solace in the family they've had to create amongst themselves. The only other characters who have an "out" are the couple who are married and move to Bakersfield about halfway through the film (possibly later), and in the original cut even that goes to hell (he beats her, she runs away).

Szmitten
Apr 26, 2008

SkunkDuster posted:

I remember reading about how the New Line Cinema logo was very clever, but I didn't really understand the terms used to describe why it was so clever. Something to do with a split audio track or something like that. Can somebody explain to a layman what the symbolism of their logo is?

All I know about the logo is that WETA remade it for them in LOTR's intro since it was old and grainy.

DannoMack
Aug 1, 2003

i love it when you call me big poppa

Dave1000 posted:

Does anyone in Canada have a Netflix account? What's the selection like?
The "Browse Selection" section of their website is pretty underwhelming.

I just got it this month and it is a little disappointing. Most of the things I search for are listed but have "Not Available" next to them, which is frustrating. The TV show selection isn't bad, but like the guy above me said they aren't really that current. There's a few gems to be had though. And for $8 a month, it's worth it to be able to watch an episode of iCarly WHENEVER I FEEL LIKE IT.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

DannoMack posted:

I just got it this month and it is a little disappointing. Most of the things I search for are listed but have "Not Available" next to them, which is frustrating.

The worst part about this is that they'll say your selected movie is not available, but then suggest something "similar" out of their limited library, and these same suggestions will keep coming up.

"Unfortunately we do not carry Terminator: Salvation at this time.
May we suggest Transmorphers 2?"

"Unfortunately we do not carry Short Circuit at this time.
May we suggest Transmorphers 2?"

"Unfortunately we do not carry Precious: Based on the novel by Sapphire at this time.
May we suggest Transmorphers 2?"

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Lobok posted:

The worst part about this is that they'll say your selected movie is not available, but then suggest something "similar" out of their limited library, and these same suggestions will keep coming up.

"Unfortunately we do not carry Terminator: Salvation at this time.
May we suggest Transmorphers 2?"

"Unfortunately we do not carry Short Circuit at this time.
May we suggest Transmorphers 2?"

"Unfortunately we do not carry Precious: Based on the novel by Sapphire at this time.
May we suggest Transmorphers 2?"

That's just mean. When I heard about Netflix finally in Canada and on Xbox, i was "getting rid of my cable and just watching stuff through that!" and then i found out they have nothing, so why bother? It has to be some CRTC thing preventing them from having their full selection.

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

twistedmentat posted:

That's just mean. When I heard about Netflix finally in Canada and on Xbox, i was "getting rid of my cable and just watching stuff through that!" and then i found out they have nothing, so why bother? It has to be some CRTC thing preventing them from having their full selection.

Independent films will often have a different distributor in Canadia than in the US. Studios though - dunno. It might be that the studios and Netflix can't reach an agreement on terms, or the studios do not want Netflix to gain the same position of dominance in Canadia that it has in the US.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

twistedmentat posted:

That's just mean. When I heard about Netflix finally in Canada and on Xbox, i was "getting rid of my cable and just watching stuff through that!" and then i found out they have nothing, so why bother? It has to be some CRTC thing preventing them from having their full selection.

I really don't think it's Netflix's fault. Not like I'm white-knighting them, but with the dominance Bell/Rogers have in this country and with different countries requiring different rights and licensing agreements, it's not as easy as Netflix clicking on the "Make Available in Canada" toggle button on their entire American catalogue.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

twistedmentat posted:

That's just mean. When I heard about Netflix finally in Canada and on Xbox, i was "getting rid of my cable and just watching stuff through that!" and then i found out they have nothing

They have a bunch of Criterion films, a large library of MST3K episodes, and most importantly Robot Jox so I'm good while they expand their library (which they're doing all the time).

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

therattle posted:

Independent films will often have a different distributor in Canadia than in the US. Studios though - dunno. It might be that the studios and Netflix can't reach an agreement on terms, or the studios do not want Netflix to gain the same position of dominance in Canadia that it has in the US.

I know Rogers and Bell were against Netflix coming into Canada because it would mean people wouldn't use their PPV system anymore.

LitigiousChimp
Sep 14, 2002

Sputty thinks I'm awesome and I deserve a kitten avatar!

twistedmentat posted:

I know Rogers and Bell were against Netflix coming into Canada because it would mean people wouldn't use their PPV system anymore.
Rogers and Bell (and Shaw) also own TV networks that control the broadcast & internet streaming rights for a lot of American shows in Canada, so if they don't want their shows on Netflix it's not going to happen. It's got nothing to do with the CRTC.

Even if the selection isn't as good as it is in America it's still worth $8/month.

Yad Rock
Mar 1, 2005
Okay there's a trailer here for a movie called "The Thr3e"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdAw98ZYVkk

Does this have anything to do with Adaptation at all? The comments, the dedication, it all seems too much to be a hoax. But it's not real, is it? I don't know anymore...

ClydeUmney
May 13, 2004

One can hardly ignore the Taoist implications of "Fuck it, Dude. Let's go bowling."

Jacques Diarrhida posted:

Okay there's a trailer here for a movie called "The Thr3e"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdAw98ZYVkk

Does this have anything to do with Adaptation at all? The comments, the dedication, it all seems too much to be a hoax. But it's not real, is it? I don't know anymore...

Okay, here's the deal with this: this is based on a book by a guy named Ted Dekker, who's mainly known for Christian thrillers. This was his big "breakout" book, pitched more mainstream. Apparently he wrote it before Adaptation came out, and to his mind the plot which is about a guy who is the same person as the person threatening him and as a girl he knows was totally original. Then he sees Adaptation and hears the pitch for the movie within the movie and starts to get really upset. Did someone steal his idea? He eventually concedes that it's just coincidence, that the movie was in the works far too long to have lifted his idea.

All of this comes from his afterword to the book, which I scanned through at the grocery store after a friend of mine read the book. What's hilarious to me is that it never seems to occur to him that the plot is being made fun of.

Yad Rock
Mar 1, 2005
Okay so it is real then. But it can't just be a coincidence, can it?

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Jacques Diarrhida posted:

Okay so it is real then. But it can't just be a coincidence, can it?

I imagine Charlie Kaufman might have read the book and thought it was so ridiculous that he had to make fun of it in his script.

edit: or I may be wrong about that.

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

therattle posted:

Independent films will often have a different distributor in Canadia than in the US. Studios though - dunno. It might be that the studios and Netflix can't reach an agreement on terms, or the studios do not want Netflix to gain the same position of dominance in Canadia that it has in the US.

This came up in the 360 thread in Games. Someone who seemed to know what they were talking about said that many American studios have ridiculous licensing fees for Canada as a pressure tactic on the government due to Canada's loose piracy laws.

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