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Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
I doubled up a couple times.

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Ramms+ein
Nov 11, 2003
Henshin-a-go-go, baby!

Genpei Turtle posted:

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you--I scored high on English Expression and General knowledge but low on the Biographic Info with only 45.66. I just don't do a lot of talking to the public or management type stuff in my current job, that's going to count against me.

Side question to anyone that might know--are the references for the personal narratives supposed to be different for each question or is it OK to use the same person for more than one?

Biographic Info was my highest score. I treated this part of the exam as I treat all applications to the Federal Govt., I picked the highest possible score I could for each question. I barely have any work experience (grocery store, Census, intern at non-profit) but I could feasibly justify picking the best answer for each question. You just have to think outside the box when trying to come up ways that your experience could fit the questions. Obviously I couldn't do the same for the Biographic questions that require you to type in answers but those were only like 1/3 of the questions in the section and I was still able to pick the best answer for most of those.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
So I sent in my application for the summer internship program last night. Lets hope I didn't gently caress it up! I think I should more than enough work and international experience for them, and my Undergrad grades are excellent. But the written sections of the application was very vague, and I don't think I wrote well.

But lets hope I'll be in Japan/Singapore/Korea/China by June!

problematique
Apr 3, 2008

What saves a man is to take a step. Then another step. It is always the same step, but you have to take it.
I applied for a Information Management Specialist back in February and it's been stuck in "Eligible – Application Referred to Selecting Official" since then.

I'm not really sure what to expect or what this means but it seems like a rather long to be stuck in limbo.

Also, just applied to take the FSOT which will occur sometime in Jan/Feb.

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope

problematique posted:

I applied for a Information Management Specialist back in February and it's been stuck in "Eligible – Application Referred to Selecting Official" since then.

I'm not really sure what to expect or what this means but it seems like a rather long to be stuck in limbo.

Also, just applied to take the FSOT which will occur sometime in Jan/Feb.

It's a slow process. Going that long without a response is a little longer than I'd expect but not outside the ballpark at all.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Ba-dam ba-DUMMMMMM

This is making the rounds with my friends at State.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7587243/

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

suboptimal posted:

This is making the rounds with my friends at State.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7587243/

This is a ripoff of the so you want to be a lawyer video.

At least they have jobs.

Vilerat
May 11, 2002
Speaking of jobs, Handshake, The Hague!

Slingshot Smith
Jul 1, 2010

problematique posted:

I applied for a Information Management Specialist back in February and it's been stuck in "Eligible – Application Referred to Selecting Official" since then.

I'm not really sure what to expect or what this means but it seems like a rather long to be stuck in limbo.

Also, just applied to take the FSOT which will occur sometime in Jan/Feb.

I was stuck at that point in the process for 10 months ... then is started moving. The hiring process will test your patience.

Good Luck

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

Vilerat posted:

Speaking of jobs, Handshake, The Hague!

Nice! Congrats!

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Vilerat posted:

Speaking of jobs, Handshake, The Hague!

Congrats on two nice assignments in a row bastard!

In other news, I just wrote my first reporting cable and attended a large reception at the CMR.

Now how to convert over...

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004
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maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Apr 28, 2019

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

GregNorc posted:

Do specialists take the FSOT, with some technical questions added or a completely different test?

It is a separate hiring process.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Slaan posted:

So I sent in my application for the summer internship program last night. Lets hope I didn't gently caress it up! I think I should more than enough work and international experience for them, and my Undergrad grades are excellent. But the written sections of the application was very vague, and I don't think I wrote well.

But lets hope I'll be in Japan/Singapore/Korea/China by June!

Good luck with that; I was a Boren scholar (Thai) with almost 3 years of undergrad overseas, was only good enough to make alternate for Bangkok. That was my second try, the first time I didn't even make alt.

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope

GregNorc posted:

Do specialists take the FSOT, with some technical questions added or a completely different test?

Like BoF said it's a different process. You're given some time to write a short essay on some vaugely IT related topic just so they get an idea of your ability to string words together. Then you're interviewed by a two person team. One is a generalist who conducts a more or less generic job interview with some basic questions about government and conducting yourself overseas thrown in. The other is an IMer who asks some basic IT questions.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004
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maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Apr 28, 2019

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

GregNorc posted:

Is the timeframe from application to hiring decision similar?

I was 12 months from application submission to reporting to work.

edit:

AKA Pseudonym posted:

Like BoF said it's a different process. You're given some time to write a short essay on some vaugely IT related topic just so they get an idea of your ability to string words together. Then you're interviewed by a two person team. One is a generalist who conducts a more or less generic job interview with some basic questions about government and conducting yourself overseas thrown in. The other is an IMer who asks some basic IT questions.
Specialists also go through a QEP review as well.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Good luck with that; I was a Boren scholar (Thai) with almost 3 years of undergrad overseas, was only good enough to make alternate for Bangkok. That was my second try, the first time I didn't even make alt.

I... I.... :smith:



Oh well, I'm 90% sure I'll get into the Master's International program, so a Masters plus Peace Corps service is bound to get me in, right? Right?

Right?

Cjones
Jul 4, 2008

Democracia Socrates, MD
So I'm studying secondary education but I've always wanted to do Foreign Service. After I graduate I'll pursue a Masters (in something) but right now I'd like to do something other than teaching all of my life.

Do you guys have any suggestions for a course of action in the future? Although I'm studying Spanish, I'd love the chance to take another foreign language as well. I consider my self fairly smart but if I had to fill out a biography it would be completely mediocre and middle of the road.

My biggest concern is the prospect of not having a job for a long time. I'd love to supplement that with teaching but I have no idea what the contractual commitment will be if I do get a teaching job.

Any help?

I'm 20 and since summer internship applications are closed for 2011, I believe I'll be too old for the next go around? How about a summer clerical position? Does that help with future employment in the Foreign Service?

Cjones fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Nov 11, 2010

Vilerat
May 11, 2002
SUBJECT: FOREIGN SERVICE INFORMATION MANAGEMENT
SPECIALIST VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT

1. This is to alert posts that a vacancy announcement
for Foreign Service Information Management Specialists
is opening on November 15, 2010. It closes on December
30, 2010. The announcement is available on
careers.state.gov.



Wakey wakey fellow IT nerds!

peredur
Jun 5, 2005

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!
I'm taking the FSOT in February. I'll likely select the econ track but politics has always been more interesting to me. Is it possible to jump ship a few years into a track without totally wrecking your job prospects?

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

peredur posted:

I'm taking the FSOT in February. I'll likely select the econ track but politics has always been more interesting to me. Is it possible to jump ship a few years into a track without totally wrecking your job prospects?

Well, it is a lot easier to move from political to economic than the other way around, but it is best to not count on being able to switch. It does happen, but it is mighty tough (and not the best thing for one's career advancement).

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

peredur posted:

I'm taking the FSOT in February. I'll likely select the econ track but politics has always been more interesting to me. Is it possible to jump ship a few years into a track without totally wrecking your job prospects?

As a note, it's possible to be a Political/Econ Chief at small/med posts as an Econ cone officer.

Edit: At my post, as a specialist, I'm getting into Econ reporting with the blessing of the section chief and Front Office. I have to make time for it, and my boss is on-board as long as I get my usual work projects accomplished, but that's the beauty of small posts. The Econ Off does a fair amount of Pol work just by nature of it being a small section.

At larger Posts this doesn't necessarily hold true.

TCD fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Nov 16, 2010

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.
If memory serves, personal narratives are due today. Best of luck to those making submissions!

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Business of Ferrets posted:

If memory serves, personal narratives are due today. Best of luck to those making submissions!

Finishing up my last one, formatting, and sending off. Cutting it close, but so long as their servers don't catch fire I'll be golden.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Wow, looks like February invites stopped either 1 or 2 names short of me. GRRR.

HisMajestyBOB
Oct 21, 2010


College Slice

Business of Ferrets posted:

If memory serves, personal narratives are due today. Best of luck to those making submissions!

Sent mine in. I'm very satisfied with three of my answers. The other two seem to be weaker, but I just couldn't think of anything else suitable for the answer there.

Got my fingers crossed!
It's about 4 or 5 weeks until I get the results, right?

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Sent mine in yesterday afternoon, hope that my answers are good. I know they're well-written.

And now we play the waiting game.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007
I got called for the Diplomatic Security Service test/interview today, scheduled for January. I peg my chances at somewhere between slim and none with no prior military/law enforcement experience, but I'd like to get the job and it certainly doesn't hurt to try. Any have any tips/pointers or general info?

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Pompous Rhombus posted:

I got called for the Diplomatic Security Service test/interview today, scheduled for January. I peg my chances at somewhere between slim and none with no prior military/law enforcement experience, but I'd like to get the job and it certainly doesn't hurt to try. Any have any tips/pointers or general info?

I'm in the same boat. I was also wondering what places people in that job usually end up at, if anyone is able to share.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
-e- this is the wrong thread

Slingshot Smith
Jul 1, 2010

Pompous Rhombus posted:

I got called for the Diplomatic Security Service test/interview today, scheduled for January. I peg my chances at somewhere between slim and none with no prior military/law enforcement experience, but I'd like to get the job and it certainly doesn't hurt to try. Any have any tips/pointers or general info?

Pompous and Ugly,

Did you get a invite for a DS Agent interview or for some other security position within DOS?

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Slingshot Smith posted:

Pompous and Ugly,

Did you get a invite for a DS Agent interview or for some other security position within DOS?

Special Agent with DSS

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Slingshot Smith posted:

Pompous and Ugly,

Did you get a invite for a DS Agent interview or for some other security position within DOS?

It was for a DS Special Agent position.

Slingshot Smith
Jul 1, 2010

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Special Agent with DSS

The agents that were in my class ... I'm an IMS ... mostly had previous military or law enforcement experience, BUT not all. Several were hired basically right out of school. So they had an interest in law enforcement and I believe they also had a degree that was law enforcement focused.

First tour is is almost always domestic. DS has offices in big cities from LA and San Fran to NY and DC with points in between. Each oversees post has one to several DS agents assigned, so the opporunity to work oversees is available ... just takes a couple of assignements to get there.

Hope this helps ... and good luck

Kase Im Licht
Jan 26, 2001
From what I understand, if you are a DSS special agent, you will be going overseas. And you'll be doing it soon, and very frequently. Your first assignment will be domestic, probably DC, but you're going to get sent all over the place. Apparently its not uncommon for people on "domestic" tours to spend the majority of their time overseas.

Here's a very long thread with lots of information (also with lots of people repeating the same questions and getting the same information, but if you're serious about the job it wouldn't hurt to read through the whole thing).

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?55598-bureau-of-diplomatic-security-opening

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Kase Im Licht posted:

From what I understand, if you are a DSS special agent, you will be going overseas. And you'll be doing it soon, and very frequently. Your first assignment will be domestic, probably DC, but you're going to get sent all over the place. Apparently its not uncommon for people on "domestic" tours to spend the majority of their time overseas.

Here's a very long thread with lots of information (also with lots of people repeating the same questions and getting the same information, but if you're serious about the job it wouldn't hurt to read through the whole thing).

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?55598-bureau-of-diplomatic-security-opening

Thanks for the link. I wasn't sure whether some aspects of the job are really for me, and the information is helpful. I'm gonna have to think a lot about this one.

Omits-Bagels
Feb 13, 2001
how about this wikileaks mess?

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope
There's not going to be a massive unveiling of scandal and wrongdoing. All it really does is expose the private thoughts and assessments of American diplomats that are private for a legitimate reason.

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Vilerat
May 11, 2002
Counterpoint: Today sucks.

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