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Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

Guys, something is wrong with my guitar and I don't know what :(

It's a brand new Epi SG - and it's hissing/fizzing/buzzing when it's not amplified. It's most obvious if I fret the A strain closest to the pickups. It sounds like something inside the guitar is resonating or something - it doesn't sound like a buzz when you mis-fret something.

Oddly I have literally changed nothing on it, but the temperature has been all over the place for the last few days (-1 to 16 degrees centigrade). My step brother believes that this happens with new guitars and they need to be tuned up after playing a new one for a while.

Any ideas?

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spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer
Can you exchange it for another one at the store? Maybe it has a warranty?

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

MAybe something really is loose - check the screws, and especially if it has those little ones on the bridge saddles, to control their individual height.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



How much is an original Pod Pro with pedal board worth these days? I'm seeing wildly varying prices on ebay and craigslist, and I have no experience to know what are the crazy ones and what aren't.

Selavi
Jan 1, 2010

Acid Reflux posted:

Anecdotally, my son's running an old GuitarPort on a single-core Athlon that's 4+ years old, and if there's any audible lag I'm not able to pick up on it. Win7, on-board audio, 1 gig of RAM, nothing special at all. We can play right side by side, me on rhythm through an amp and him on lead through the computer (using the Line6 software, effects and all) and saying in sync has never been an issue.

The problem wouldn't be two guitars playing at the same time. It would be recording two guitar parts at different times and getting those to sync up, or a delay hearing it through the speakers (if the sound is going through the computer and not just through an output in the guitarport.

At least that has been my experience (I have tried recording directly into the line in, and also with a presonus box). There's apparently something with how Windows is coded, maybe someone else would be able to tell you more.

Duck and burger
Jul 21, 2006
Never a greater duo

Selavi posted:

If this computer runs on Windows (even moreso on W7 than XP), you're going to have to jump through a lot of hoops to get your computer to record or playback the guitar without much latency. I'm happy with Windows for just about every reason, but recording on it is frustrating.

Latency doesn't matter if you're recording. Mine is 749ms. Sonar, at least, tells you what the latency of your device is, and you can have it compensate by that (or any) amount by sliding over whatever you record. Whatever you're using, I guarantee you there is a solution.

crm
Oct 24, 2004

Finally talked my wife into it lol

Picking this up tomorrow and starting lessons asap

http://www.samash.com/p/Takamine_EG340C-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar_-49984866

Is there anything else I should get other than a strap and a case of some sort?

Not going to bother with an amp at the moment.

Pocket Billiards
Aug 29, 2007
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crm posted:

Finally talked my wife into it lol

Picking this up tomorrow and starting lessons asap

http://www.samash.com/p/Takamine_EG340C-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar_-49984866

Is there anything else I should get other than a strap and a case of some sort?

Not going to bother with an amp at the moment.

Digital metronome, tuner, plectrums of different sizes (0.7mm-1.0mm), peg winder, small wire cutters, a capo and spare strings (11-52 ?) and a folder to store all your loose paper and songs in.

crm
Oct 24, 2004

I picked up the Takamine. Yay!

Are there any decent getting started videos I can start to play with before my first lesson? I'd rather not waste too much time with the super basic once I get with a teacher.

Mach420
Jun 22, 2002
Bandit at 6 'o clock - Pull my finger

crm posted:

I picked up the Takamine. Yay!

Are there any decent getting started videos I can start to play with before my first lesson? I'd rather not waste too much time with the super basic once I get with a teacher.

http://justinguitar.com/ is perfect for you.

crm
Oct 24, 2004

http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/p/pink_floyd/wish_you_were_here_ver5_tab.htm

How exactly do I play that "0h2" thing?

Zakalwe
May 12, 2002

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crm posted:

http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/p/pink_floyd/wish_you_were_here_ver5_tab.htm

How exactly do I play that "0h2" thing?

That's called a "hammer-on". Pluck the string, then as it rings out, place a finger on the 2nd fret. You don't pluck the string as you place your finger on the second.

5h7 would mean that you fret the 5th fret (probably with your pointer finger), pluck the string and then place another finger (probably your ring finger) on the 7th.

crm
Oct 24, 2004

Ah, got it figured out. Doesn't always sound right, but when I do it right, I can tell.

How do you handle the 5/6 strings both being held down on that first cord in such close proximity? My fingers aren't that tiny.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
They will be after a billion hours of practice. :)

Okay, well, not a billion, but yeah, just keep doing it and you'll see it get easier and easier and easier. Probably after a lot of swearing. But that's normal.

I might suggest doing the free trial at guitarjamz.com for three days and do those beginning videos. He starts you out with some really easy chords that even the fattest of goon fat fingers can do and gets you up playing simple melodies. Doesn't take a CC or anything, just an email address. I wish I had done that when I started to get a feel for guitar really quick. Instead I got frustrated with the G chord ;)

Philthy fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Nov 20, 2010

Leviathan
Oct 8, 2001

I hear the jury's
still out.. on science.
Fun Shoe

crm posted:

Ah, got it figured out. Doesn't always sound right, but when I do it right, I can tell.

You're not just "placing" your finger on the 2 after plucking the open. You actually want to forcefully hammer the 2nd fret with your index finger (always use 'tips' not 'pads' for ho/po) so that the volume of the hammered note is the same as that of the open plucked string. This is the sort of strength you build by doing 1h2h3h4 4p3p2p1 drills up and down the neck with a metronome.

crm
Oct 24, 2004

http://www.xguitar.com/guitar-tabs/pearl_jam/no_code/off_he_goes.txt

In the 4th measure, there are two chords that are just X X

What does that mean?

amotea
Mar 23, 2008
Grimey Drawer

crm posted:

http://www.xguitar.com/guitar-tabs/pearl_jam/no_code/off_he_goes.txt

In the 4th measure, there are two chords that are just X X

What does that mean?

It means you should loosely place your fingers on the strings instead of pressing the strings down. This way you should get a sort of dead/muted sound when strumming them.

Banjo Bones
Mar 28, 2003

Do you guys find hammer ons way easier than pull offs? I feel like I can play ascending runs way easier than descending ones. I feel like I just cant get any power and volume from pull offs unless im pulling off to an open string. It's also a pain in the rear end having to mute strings because with pull offs I always sound the adjacent string.

Sometimes I feel like I need to do "flick-offs" instead of pull offs if that makes any sense, I have to flick my fingers up against the string as they let off the fret instead of pulling up and away from them. It feels like if I practiced it I could do it a lot more consistently or is this a really bad habit?

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Not exactly sure what you mean, but try plucking the string with the finger you're pulling off - more of a sideways movement basically. Easiest thing to do is a trill - play a note then hammer on and pull off repeatedly, trying to get a consistent volume for all the notes (and you only pluck the first one). It will be hard at first but practice will help.

Also muting strings you don't want sounding is a very good habit to get into. Use your fretting hand to mute the higher strings, and your pickign hand to mute the lower ones. It's probably worth practicing both ways though (with muting and without) since there'll be times where you want other strings ringing and you just don't want to hit them

Banjo Bones
Mar 28, 2003

I mean you "pull" to one sideways direction from the fretboard with your finger to sound the note but if you "push" in the opposite direction or do like an upstroke with your finger you don't have to worry about muting the other strings it seems.

I can do trills and stuff really easily on the two outside E strings but all the inside strings seem way harder to do pull offs.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
I must have spent close to 3 hours in the local Guitar Center playing all the guitars. Expensive Gibsons, Fenders, PRS, etc. I didn't think any of them felt or sounded particularly good, or different compared to my ESP LTD M-10, which is basically a $100 starter. I think the nicest one that I bonded with was a Schecter C1+. I don't know if I'm let down that there isn't much out there that I can move on to, or if I should be happy I'm not dropping $500-1500+ on a new guitar.

I think my biggest disappointment was trying a Gibson that looked absolutely amazing, but the sound and feel was just meh. A Fender American Standard Strat had a great maple neck and I could move around on the frets really well, but the sound was just eh.

I think I'm going to just order some nice tuning pegs, and having a new nut put on, and maybe experimenting with different pickups on my guitar for now.

Philthy fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Nov 21, 2010

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Nov 12, 2008

Philthy posted:

I must have spent close to 3 hours in the local Guitar Center playing all the guitars. Expensive Gibsons, Fenders, PRS, etc. I didn't think any of them felt or sounded particularly good, or different compared to my ESP LTD M-10, which is basically a $100 starter. I think the nicest one that I bonded with was a Schecter C1+. I don't know if I'm let down that there isn't much out there that I can move on to, or if I should be happy I'm not dropping $500-1500+ on a new guitar.

I think my biggest disappointment was trying a Gibson that looked absolutely amazing, but the sound and feel was just meh. A Fender American Standard Strat had a great maple neck and I could move around on the frets really well, but the sound was just eh.

I think I'm going to just order some nice tuning pegs, and having a new nut put on, and maybe experimenting with different pickups on my guitar for now.

Gibsons really aren't worth it. The only reason they're still the massive company they are is because of brand recognition. They have notorious quality control issues, with things as simple as dressing frets and building necks that don't break.

Fender is slightly better, and I still think they make decent amps. But if you want a "more Fender than Fender" guitar, I would check out G&L Guitars. They sound great, they're well built, and the price is somewhat reasonable.

Really, I wouldn't bother with Guitar Center for purchasing instruments. They're fine for cords, tuners, and even the occasional pedal. But they only stock brand name guitars, usually with lots of scratches on them from being on the floor for so long. Their staff is pretty underwhelming in their knowledge and overwhelming in their desire to push overstock on you.

You're much better off finding a smaller, respectable store with better instruments and a more knowledgeable staff. That's not to say that there aren't awful mom and pop guitar stores, because there are a ton. But checking something like Yelp, or even just asking good working musicians in the area where they shop, is always a good idea.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

bromplicated posted:

I mean you "pull" to one sideways direction from the fretboard with your finger to sound the note but if you "push" in the opposite direction or do like an upstroke with your finger you don't have to worry about muting the other strings it seems.

I can do trills and stuff really easily on the two outside E strings but all the inside strings seem way harder to do pull offs.

Well to a point use Whatever Works, but honestly it sounds like you're doing the exact same movement in the other direction, your finger has as much space to move before it hits another string so really it's down to technique. You have more strength and control curling your finger in, so I'd practice that way until you have it under control. I'm guessing your finger's just going too far because it's more powerful doing that movement, so practice trilling until you can get an even sound without hitting any other strings.

It doesn't actually take much of a pull either, you'll see as you do more of it. Also you should be fretting as close to the fret as possible, to maximise the distance between the note you're pulling off from and the one you're going to. This matters more when the notes are one fret apart - try pulling off from the first fret to an open string, and see how much harder it is when your pulloff finger is close to the nut

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
I'll definitely be making the rounds. I do try and buy from the local shops if I get a chance, but they always seem to not have what I want. GC just has an absolutely huge selection that allowed me to burn through trying out all the big names. I went in expecting to be conflicted over wanting to buy everything I tried, but it was just the opposite.

There is a local guitar maker in town (US Masters), so I'll go check them out. A coworker has a Godin that I'll have to ask to let me try out, since no one sells them around here.

SuicideSnowman
Jul 26, 2003

Philthy posted:

I must have spent close to 3 hours in the local Guitar Center playing all the guitars. Expensive Gibsons, Fenders, PRS, etc. I didn't think any of them felt or sounded particularly good, or different compared to my ESP LTD M-10, which is basically a $100 starter. I think the nicest one that I bonded with was a Schecter C1+. I don't know if I'm let down that there isn't much out there that I can move on to, or if I should be happy I'm not dropping $500-1500+ on a new guitar.

I think my biggest disappointment was trying a Gibson that looked absolutely amazing, but the sound and feel was just meh. A Fender American Standard Strat had a great maple neck and I could move around on the frets really well, but the sound was just eh.

I think I'm going to just order some nice tuning pegs, and having a new nut put on, and maybe experimenting with different pickups on my guitar for now.

How long have you been playing? Sound, or tone is not something easily noticeable by a beginner. In fact, it takes years to really find the sound you're looking for.

Not to mention, a lot of it comes down to the amp and settings of the amp you're playing through. You can have a $4000 PRS Custom 24 and it'll probably sound like rear end through a cheap amp.

Epi Lepi
Oct 29, 2009

You can hear the voice
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And you're doing what it wants

SuicideSnowman posted:

How long have you been playing? Sound, or tone is not something easily noticeable by a beginner. In fact, it takes years to really find the sound you're looking for.

Not to mention, a lot of it comes down to the amp and settings of the amp you're playing through. You can have a $4000 PRS Custom 24 and it'll probably sound like rear end through a cheap amp.

I'd argue that amp sound is more important than guitar sound especially for someone who doesn't have a well trained ear for tone. I tell everyone I know who starts getting into an instrument to upgrade their amp first before their guitar/bass.

crm
Oct 24, 2004

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/p/pearl_jam/better_man_ver3_tab.htm

What does the 2/4 signify?

Figured out hammer ons and pull off, but no clue what's going on with that.

Actually are those half notes?

How would you do the fingering on those?

crm fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Nov 21, 2010

Epi Lepi
Oct 29, 2009

You can hear the voice
Telling you to Love
It's the voice of MK Ultra
And you're doing what it wants
Slide down from 2 to 4

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

SuicideSnowman posted:

How long have you been playing? Sound, or tone is not something easily noticeable by a beginner. In fact, it takes years to really find the sound you're looking for.

Not to mention, a lot of it comes down to the amp and settings of the amp you're playing through. You can have a $4000 PRS Custom 24 and it'll probably sound like rear end through a cheap amp.

About a year now. I got a cheap starter to see if I would keep interest, and I have. I decided to find something decent to use from here on out. As for amp, I found a basic Line 6 Spider 30W to use the entire time at the shop. I didn't want to use a high end fancy amp because I wouldn't know if it was the amp or the guitar that was making whatever I tried sound good. At home I have a Vypyr 30 which is about the equivalent, I guess. To be honest, my attention was more on the feel of the guitars more than the sound. However, the Gibson and Fender you read about their signature sounds, and I didn't hear that at all. Despite that, the Gibson didn't seem to feel very good in the hands. The Fender, the neck/frets were really nice, but the knobs and everything else seemed incredibly cheap.

Oh well. I've ordered some Gotoh tuning pegs for my current guitar. Those are the only things that were really pissing me off about it. They weren't smooth when you wind them which makes tuning really nonfun.

Philthy fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Nov 21, 2010

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

crm posted:

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/p/pearl_jam/better_man_ver3_tab.htm

What does the 2/4 signify?

Figured out hammer ons and pull off, but no clue what's going on with that.

Actually are those half notes?

How would you do the fingering on those?

You should probably read a tab primer like this:
http://www.guitartabs.cc/tabfaq.php

And yeah for that one you play the 2 and slide up to the 4 in a smooth motion. You need to listen to the song to hear how it's meant to sound

Selavi
Jan 1, 2010

Philthy posted:

About a year now. I got a cheap starter to see if I would keep interest, and I have. I decided to find something decent to use from here on out. As for amp, I found a basic Line 6 Spider 30W to use the entire time at the shop. I didn't want to use a high end fancy amp because I wouldn't know if it was the amp or the guitar that was making whatever I tried sound good. At home I have a Vypyr 30 which is about the equivalent, I guess. To be honest, my attention was more on the feel of the guitars more than the sound. However, the Gibson and Fender you read about their signature sounds, and I didn't hear that at all. Despite that, the Gibson didn't seem to feel very good in the hands. The Fender, the neck/frets were really nice, but the knobs and everything else seemed incredibly cheap.

Oh well. I've ordered some Gotoh tuning pegs for my current guitar. Those are the only things that were really pissing me off about it. They weren't smooth when you wind them which makes tuning really nonfun.

Yeah, definitely hold out and just keep researching instruments until you figure out specifically what you want in a guitar or what kind of sound you want. Try out different string gauges too for different sounds and feels, and don't feel like you have to spring for a new guitar yet if you're still happy with the one you have now.

Dub Step Dad
Dec 29, 2008
I recently changed my high E string on my acoustic guitar and now whenever I strum it it lets off a weird harmonic sound when I just play an open note on it and it sounds horrible on open chords like E and A. However, whenever I press down a fret and strum it it sounds fine. Does anyone know what might be causing this problem so that I can stop it?

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Philthy posted:

They will be after a billion hours of practice. :)

Okay, well, not a billion, but yeah, just keep doing it and you'll see it get easier and easier and easier. Probably after a lot of swearing. But that's normal.

I might suggest doing the free trial at guitarjamz.com for three days and do those beginning videos. He starts you out with some really easy chords that even the fattest of goon fat fingers can do and gets you up playing simple melodies. Doesn't take a CC or anything, just an email address. I wish I had done that when I started to get a feel for guitar really quick. Instead I got frustrated with the G chord ;)

But.....G is easy! Even I can do a G!

F, on the other hand, can bite me. Thank god I only need to play F5 pretty much ever. Barre chords can suck me dry

e: Also my local GC is awesome so there

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Here's a question: How often should I change the strings on my Squier?

I've asked a couple people and gotten wildly different answers

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer
Whenever they start to sound dull or look dirty or sound off-intonation. I do it about once a month.

Basically, if your guitar sounds like poo poo the first thing to do is change the strings.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

rt4 posted:

Whenever they start to sound dull or look dirty or sound off-intonation. I do it about once a month.

Basically, if your guitar sounds like poo poo the first thing to do is change the strings.

Good to know

I'll do it once I'm back at school and have my wire-cutters to trim the strings

e: Oh dear jesus I am so inept. I tried restringing my low E and broke it. I broke the new string.

Oh well. Turns out GC has a sale, three packs of Super Slinkies for twelve bucks, and I needed a new tuner, too, so it worked out.

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Nov 26, 2010

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Dickeye posted:

Good to know

I'll do it once I'm back at school and have my wire-cutters to trim the strings

e: Oh dear jesus I am so inept. I tried restringing my low E and broke it. I broke the new string.

Oh well. Turns out GC has a sale, three packs of Super Slinkies for twelve bucks, and I needed a new tuner, too, so it worked out.

Don't pull them tight before you start to turn the tuner, I did that once and popped a brand new string too. I leave a fair amount of slack and let it wind around the tuning peg, seems to help seeing as I never break strings anymore :o

havelock
Jan 20, 2004

IGNORE ME
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baka kaba posted:

Don't pull them tight before you start to turn the tuner, I did that once and popped a brand new string too. I leave a fair amount of slack and let it wind around the tuning peg, seems to help seeing as I never break strings anymore :o

I forget where I read it, but if you pull the string taught, and then put your pointer finger at the 12th fret perpendicular to the fretboard and pull the string up even to the base of your hand with your middle finger then that gives you just the right amount of slack.

In case that description wasn't clear, basically pull the string 1 index finger's length at the 12th fret away from the fret board.

crm
Oct 24, 2004

Took my first lesson Monday. After playing piano for like 20 years, I feel completely retarded doing scales. And struggling at it. You guitarists have completely backwards note layout.

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baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

crm posted:

Took my first lesson Monday. After playing piano for like 20 years, I feel completely retarded doing scales. And struggling at it. You guitarists have completely backwards note layout.

Think of it as six one-fingered pianos in one!!

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