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paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


auri posted:

She also cleans the house. Socks, dryer sheets, pieces of paper that are on the floor, she picks them up and brings them to me. If I'm not home she piles them up in the kitchen by the garbage can.

This is the most :3: thing I have ever friggin heard. My rear end in a top hat just destroys dryer sheets, paper and socks and leaves them all over the floor for me to pick up.

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Wheats
Sep 28, 2007

strange sisters

Thanks for the compliments, everyone!

Baish posted:

He was remarkably easy to train. I'm considering getting another Shar Pei pretty soon so he can have someone to keep him company while we're at work.

I love this breed! God Bless Matgo Law.

You should get a second dog! I have a dalmatian mix, Skylar, in addition to my pei/pit Beck, and they're best buddies. Beck likes to keep an eye on Skylar, and I think she might think it's her job.

WolfensteinBag posted:

I've never seen pictures of the Eastern style shar pei before, although I knew they existed. Especially when you consider the work they do, they're like the ancient version of pitty dogs. :3:

That's exactly how I think of them- they're like Bizarro pit bulls. Pit bulls are my favorite breed, but shar pei are a very close second.

auri posted:

Sophie is a shar pei mix!! She definitely has some of the traits described in the breed post. She is stubborn as gently caress, circles new people, barks at strange events (neighbours upstairs fighting, kids vandalizing things outside), and comes up with her own ideas on how to do things. She was easy to teach tricks to, but she's figured out that if she does certain things she gets free food so she'll do the trick before I give the command! She's also allergic to everything except fish and rice, augh.

She's very wrinkly around the face and I can pinch a lot more than an inch everywhere else on her. She has a dark strip of hair down her back and tail, it's quite course and itches me a lot when it gets in my clothes or in my bedding. When I first got her it even gave me a bit of a rash!

She doesn't really... play. That's the only thing that really gets me. She has a skunk toy that she carries around, but she won't play tug with it. She'll fetch it but it's not a huge deal to get it. She just slowly trots over to it, picks it up, and brings it back to me. She also cleans the house. Socks, dryer sheets, pieces of paper that are on the floor, she picks them up and brings them to me. If I'm not home she piles them up in the kitchen by the garbage can.

Sophie is super cute! Shar pei mixes are the best because they are crazy-looking dogs. And I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who got a rash when the first got their dog. I looked like I had razor burn or something all over my face for the first week after I got Beck.

The gathering thing is something I've also noticed with Beck. There's always various toys and bones lying around for my dogs, and every so often Beck will walk around and pick them all up and pile them in a corner somewhere. Sometimes she'll sit on the pile when she's done. These dogs are loving nuts.

auri
Jul 8, 2005

Wheats posted:

The gathering thing is something I've also noticed with Beck. There's always various toys and bones lying around for my dogs, and every so often Beck will walk around and pick them all up and pile them in a corner somewhere. Sometimes she'll sit on the pile when she's done. These dogs are loving nuts.

Yes!!! Sophie has all of her toys piled up either in her crate or on her bed at all times. It's like she's an OCD neat freak. Right now her bed has her curled in a ball, her leash, her ball treat puzzle thing, a couple of my boyfriend's socks, her skunk, a bone, and a tennis ball. This morning when we woke up she brought us 2 dryer sheets, a couple more socks, a chocolate bar wrapper, a piece of tin foil, and a tea towel. I wish you could train every dog to do this. Weirdo.

She also lays outside our bedroom door when we are sleeping, or outside the bathroom when we're in the shower. I think it's a guarding thing?

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



I went out to a farm to pick up a ram for my sheep flock and the lady had a super cute basenji! She shows them in conformation and does field trials with them. Jet (the pup) was super outgoing and friendly and has just started her show career. Their old basenji was a dual champion with AKC and ASFA field titles that had just passed recently. The farmer was impressed that I knew about basenji and I was glad she wasn't some terrible BYB like so many farmers around me.


(from their website but rehosted)

Egad!
Feb 20, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post
I have no clue who drew this, but I saw it and it reminded me of this thread:

paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


Egad! posted:

I have no clue who drew this, but I saw it and it reminded me of this thread:



:haw: Yeah, that's totally a favorite of mine. No clue who drew it either, and several people I know have pointed me to that picture. But LORD if I haven't seen that face on a few of our fosters and friends dogs before... (or*cough*myowndogwhenheisbeingapansyassaboutwetthings...*cough*)

WolfensteinBag
Aug 7, 2003

So it was all your work?

hahaha That reminds me of when we first got Buddy. He came with a choke chain and leather collar, so obviously we took the chain off right away. Well, turns out the little punk new how to hop and pull himself right out of that drat thing! :rolleyes: Thankfully we happened to have a harness lying around that fit him, but we soon got a martingale collar and he's had that since. He only tried his backing out trick a couple of times before he realized it wasn't worth the effort.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Since there is Sammy talk in this thread, I figure I will ask here.

First of all, I grew up with Samoyeds. I'm familiar with their temperament, exercise needs, and shedding. They really are the only kind of dog I want. I've checked out the Samoyed rescue sites, but with small children in the house I'm hesitant to bring a dog with an unknown history in.

What's the best way to find a reputable, ethical breeder? I live in the Virginia Beach, VA area if that helps.

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



FlashGordonRamsay posted:

Since there is Sammy talk in this thread, I figure I will ask here.

First of all, I grew up with Samoyeds. I'm familiar with their temperament, exercise needs, and shedding. They really are the only kind of dog I want. I've checked out the Samoyed rescue sites, but with small children in the house I'm hesitant to bring a dog with an unknown history in.

What's the best way to find a reputable, ethical breeder? I live in the Virginia Beach, VA area if that helps.

Here's the Samoyed Club of America list of breeders for your area. The club also has a good guide for questions you're going to want to ask a potential breeder before you commit to a puppy from them here. You should also look up what genetic conditions affect Sammys and what testing should be done on breeding animals. A good breeder will be happy to show you OFA, PRA etc test results and explain what they mean.

paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


FlashGordonRamsay posted:

Since there is Sammy talk in this thread, I figure I will ask here.

First of all, I grew up with Samoyeds. I'm familiar with their temperament, exercise needs, and shedding. They really are the only kind of dog I want. I've checked out the Samoyed rescue sites, but with small children in the house I'm hesitant to bring a dog with an unknown history in.

What's the best way to find a reputable, ethical breeder? I live in the Virginia Beach, VA area if that helps.

Someone can probably point you to specific breeders, but I have a question for you first. Why are you hesitant to have a rescue? Are you under the impression that adult dogs with an unknown history (or at least unknown to you) aren't bonded to their owners or will somehow "turn" on their owners they weren't raised with? I'd like to first off dispel that myth. Rescue dogs make wonderful pets and there are even many young dogs found in rescue. My own dog was from my rescue and while it isn't common (we do get many shelter pulls, but we sometimes know where they were from or the situation), the rescue knows who surrendered him and I suppose if I wanted I could ask them questions should I ever need, though I haven't had one the year and a half I've had my dog. He's still just as smart, just as rear end in a top hat-ish, just as hilarious and just as loving as if I had him as a puppy, only I didn't have to deal with having a puppy, which is pretty awesome. My breed rescue (and any rescue with a foster system worth anything) will evaluate each dog around different situations including other dogs, cats, children, car rides, vet visits, leash manners, food/toy aggression, etc. and will make sure they are neutered and UTD on all shots and microchipped before going to their new home for a trial run before adoption.

That being said, I do realize there is an appeal of having a puppy (and I am looking forward to mine when we get a house, because I like not having nice things, apparently.) Do your research in the breed. What are common health issues with the dogs? I'm guessing hips are probably a big concern, off the top of my head, but anything else? How does the breeder combat against common ailments? Make sure whatever breeder you choose tests with OFA, CERF/PENNHIP, can provide and explain results and what else they do to prove their dogs, be it show ring champions or other activity trials. You want them to be able to tell you why they chose that particular pairing to create that litter (they should have benefits from the dog and the bitch they wanted passed onto the pups) and shouldn't have lots of litters a year. You don't want the breeder that just had puppies because they happened to have two Sammies and/or wanted their dog to experience a litter just once before she was spayed (because all bitches want to be mommies, right? :downs:) and/or needed their children to "experience the miracle of birth." Run far away from these people.

There is a great PDF outlining a lot of this right here: link!

A list of rescues around the nation: click!

Here's a start to responsible breeders in VA: whoop

The acutal Sammy people can probably help direct you a little more, but this is at least a start. Please feel free to ask more questions should you need any more help.

Kerfuffle
Aug 16, 2007

The sky calls to us~

Egad! posted:

I have no clue who drew this, but I saw it and it reminded me of this thread:



Ahahhaa this is fantastic. "My fat face will surely fit!"

rivals
Apr 5, 2004

REBIRTH OF HARDCORE PRIDE!

WolfensteinBag posted:

He came with a choke chain and leather collar, so obviously we took the chain off right away. Well, turns out the little punk new how to hop and pull himself right out of that drat thing! :rolleyes:

Kaidan came with a choke chain too. I never hooked a leash to it (we came prepared with a flat collar) but I left it on him for the first few hours because it made him look pretty fancy, somehow.



:allears:

Oh, and another because I took this yesterday

rivals fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Nov 19, 2010

Vino
Aug 11, 2010
My dog has finally learned to use the bell when going outside! He knew to ring it when we were standing there to let him outside, but when we were in another room he wouldn't ring it. So, we took some time to train him to ring the bell while we were in another room. We did this by first standing in the same room as the bell, and having him ring it, and then slowly backing up until he would ring the bell from the other room. Then the next couple times he had to go we had him use his training and told him to go ring the bell from the other room. Now he goes and rings the bell by himself! Success.

Now I just need to get him to stop pulling on the leash and recall when he's outside. If he gets outside the house he gets so excited that he simply stops listening to anything anybody says, so I'm thinking of getting an electronic training collar. I'm also thinking about Ceasar's special collar for this purpose. You know the special long one that keeps the choke at the top? Has anybody used this before? Any thoughts?

a life less
Jul 12, 2009

We are healthy only to the extent that our ideas are humane.

Vino posted:


Now I just need to get him to stop pulling on the leash and recall when he's outside. If he gets outside the house he gets so excited that he simply stops listening to anything anybody says, so I'm thinking of getting an electronic training collar. I'm also thinking about Ceasar's special collar for this purpose. You know the special long one that keeps the choke at the top? Has anybody used this before? Any thoughts?

Do not get an electric collar. They are a precision training tool, and should not be used in place of proper training techniques. I'm not as stalwartly against them as some folks around here, but quite honestly you don't seem well versed in their use. (No offense intended.) To use an e-collar you would really need face to face instruction by an accomplished professional to use it responsibly.

I highly suggest you read the intro to the Dog Training Megathread. I know it's long, but it goes over a lot of the basic ideas and tools of training.

The "Cesar's collar" is called the Illusion (named after his ex-wife). It's similar to a slip collar, and is not a great training tool either. It's placed high on the neck in a muscle-poor and nerve rich area to cause discomfort when a correction is used. Choke/slip collars are not safe to use and can cause serious damage if your dog puts sudden or steady pressure on it.

There's a link Dog Training Megathread (direct link here) about how to teach loose leash walking. Maybe look into a no-pull harness and use it in conjunction with the process I posted. It sounds complicated, but it's really the best possible way to teach loose leash walking, and it's humane.

WolfensteinBag
Aug 7, 2003

So it was all your work?

If you're thinking of something just to get attention for recall, you can try a collar that vibrates instead of shocks. People use them all the time for deaf dogs. You can charge it like you would a clicker, vibrate = treat. That way he should just come when you buzz him. Remember, though, primitive breed dogs should NEVER be trusted off leash in an unsecured area, no matter how much training they have. :)

Vino
Aug 11, 2010
Yeah the buzz is all I want. The reason I haven't bought any already is that (aside from being way too expensive) the only ones I could find didn't have buzzers, only shocks. I'm not in the mood to electrocute my dog.

The reason I ask about Ceasar's collar is he always stays by my side if I move the collar up higher on the neck, and that collar seems to be a good way to keep it up there. We've also given him one of those over-the-nose collars and as soon as you put it on he starts behaving. I don't like that over-the-nose one, but it does keep the collar up by the top of the neck. Any time he has something on higher on the neck, it's like he goes into work mode.

We go on runs almost every day and when we first set off he pulls like crazy, but later on he chills out. Problem is that first ten minutes. Or if he manages to get out at other times, he goes absolutely crazy and won't come back.

WolfensteinBag
Aug 7, 2003

So it was all your work?

Could you try a martingale collar? That way you can put it high and draw it tight enough to sat put without actually choking or causing discomfort.

Vino
Aug 11, 2010
That's true, I could. He had one before and it liked to fall back down just like a normal collar, but he was a baby then.

WolfensteinBag
Aug 7, 2003

So it was all your work?

Look into fabric ones, like Lupine, instead of ones with chains, they might stay better. Don't know what you had before, though.

Wally P
Jun 3, 2007
spoon!
What a great shar-pei post! So informative. I hope I get to meet one someday.


Hm.. so I have got a couple questions about Kodi.


Like Sophie, he doesn't really play. I took Kodi to meet my dad when he was out on the east coast for an alumni thing at his graduate school. Surprisingly, Kodi LOVES my dad. He's really iffy about strangers, but walked right up to my dad and sat down for pets. We suspect that in addition to being a good guy, my dad's scent is all over my apartment from when he and my mom helped me move in. But still, I was pleasant surprised. Anyhow, my mom sent with my dad a whole mess of rawhide bones and some toys, none of which hold his attention for more than a couple minutes. He'd much rather play with things that are alive. (He dashes after all of the neighborhood cats if he's within distance and I don't notice them before he does. Also, he caught a possum when he was unleashed in the courtyard of my building and I wasn't looking. I swear he was going to take it home to be his pet if I hadn't made him drop it.)

Unlike Sophie, he doesn't pick up around the house -- just sorts of lies around like a cat. It's kind of adorable, but I'm concerned that he doesn't have enough enrichment. Ideas? I need to make some doggie buddies for him. Anybody in the DC area?

He's also very wary of new things/environments. Not fearful, just very alert and sticks close to me in these situations, which is why walking him when he first arrived was very easy. Now that he's familiar with the neighborhood, he's much more outgoing, doing his sniffy thing, etc, but I realize I need to train him to heel. Thought I'd get him a head collar. Any suggestions on whether I should get a halti or a gentle leader (or other) brand?

Oh, and here are some pics.


This was taken by a house guest staying the night for the Jon Stewart rally. Kodi was not pleased by the flash but did pretty well with strangers in the house.


This is from the trip to visit my dad. We got lunch with outdoor seating and Kodi hunkered down under the table to hide from the foot traffic.

a life less
Jul 12, 2009

We are healthy only to the extent that our ideas are humane.

Wally P posted:

Any suggestions on whether I should get a halti or a gentle leader (or other) brand?

Try either Canny Collar or Sporn Collar. They're both head halters that attach to the leash behind the dog's head. I think they're preferable to the collars (like Halti and Gentle Leader) that attach under a dog's chin since there's less risk of injury if sudden pressure is accidentally applied to the leash.

paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


Wally P posted:

What a great shar-pei post! So informative. I hope I get to meet one someday.


Hm.. so I have got a couple questions about Kodi.


Like Sophie, he doesn't really play. I took Kodi to meet my dad when he was out on the east coast for an alumni thing at his graduate school. Surprisingly, Kodi LOVES my dad. He's really iffy about strangers, but walked right up to my dad and sat down for pets. We suspect that in addition to being a good guy, my dad's scent is all over my apartment from when he and my mom helped me move in. But still, I was pleasant surprised. Anyhow, my mom sent with my dad a whole mess of rawhide bones and some toys, none of which hold his attention for more than a couple minutes. He'd much rather play with things that are alive. (He dashes after all of the neighborhood cats if he's within distance and I don't notice them before he does. Also, he caught a possum when he was unleashed in the courtyard of my building and I wasn't looking. I swear he was going to take it home to be his pet if I hadn't made him drop it.)

Unlike Sophie, he doesn't pick up around the house -- just sorts of lies around like a cat. It's kind of adorable, but I'm concerned that he doesn't have enough enrichment. Ideas? I need to make some doggie buddies for him. Anybody in the DC area?

He's also very wary of new things/environments. Not fearful, just very alert and sticks close to me in these situations, which is why walking him when he first arrived was very easy. Now that he's familiar with the neighborhood, he's much more outgoing, doing his sniffy thing, etc, but I realize I need to train him to heel. Thought I'd get him a head collar. Any suggestions on whether I should get a halti or a gentle leader (or other) brand?

Oh, and here are some pics.


This was taken by a house guest staying the night for the Jon Stewart rally. Kodi was not pleased by the flash but did pretty well with strangers in the house.


This is from the trip to visit my dad. We got lunch with outdoor seating and Kodi hunkered down under the table to hide from the foot traffic.

Is Kodi your foster? Sorry, I don't really remember the details on him and looking back through the thread is :effort:. How long have you had him around for? General rule of thumb is that Akitas and Shibas (which I'm most familiar with) take about a month to really settle into the routine and about 3-5 months to really open up and for you and the dog to really get each other's quirks. When we first brought Koji home, he thought sleeping under tables was the best drat thing in the world. Now he won't go under tables for beans and prefers to instead wedge his head in the small gap under the chair by his bed when he sleeps.

How does Kodi normally react around other dogs? Does he care at all? Sometimes they really don't and they could take or leave new dogs. Obviously you want to keep new dogs a positive experience for him, but if he doesn't care about playing with them, that's alright. Koji also took a while to really play with toys, but my friend's dog, Dug, isn't ever interested in toys (unless he thinks he can steal one from another dog for some chase, though it ends quickly.) What you can do instead of play is train him to do some tricks, or if he seems really calm, see if he'd go for some CGC training, the might like that more than toys or playing. Also, see if something like a flirt pole (basically like a doggie string on pole cat toy) would interest him at all, since he likes hunting and catching prey.

I also need more brindle bear pictures. For uh...for science.

Wally P
Jun 3, 2007
spoon!

a life less posted:

Try either Canny Collar or Sporn Collar. They're both head halters that attach to the leash behind the dog's head. I think they're preferable to the collars (like Halti and Gentle Leader) that attach under a dog's chin since there's less risk of injury if sudden pressure is accidentally applied to the leash.

Oooo thanks for the information. This makes a lot more sense, given his bolting tendencies.


paisleyfox, to answer your good questions:

1) Kodi's my foster, and he's been with me since the beginning of September, so only 2 months. It is looking more and more like he's not going to be my foster but my actual dog. Heeee.

2) Yeah, I had figured that he hasn't really settled in yet. I'm just worried that he's bored. I'll look into your suggestions, though - thanks for the advice. I think he is starting to loosen up and *gasp* maybe even play, eventually. The other day he chased his tail around for 2 spins and then put himself it what looked like a play bow, though it looked awfully like the froggy sleeping position of one of the other dogs in this thread.

3) Based on the limited introductions I've made to other walking dogs in the neighborhood, he's wild about meeting new dogs though I've usually managed to introduce him fairly calmly, so I think he'd do really well with a dog buddy if I can find one in my neighborhood to arrange regular playdates. Dogs in yards are another matter.

4) I'll try and snap some pics. For :science:

paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


Hey, checkout meetup.com to see if there are any general doggy meetup groups, or even breed specific ones if you're interested. That's where we have our Shiba meetup group, though we, and all the other Shiba-centered meetups I know of, totally allow "honorary Shibas" to our meetups. It's just an excuse to get together with a bunch of rear end in a top hat dogs and do fun stuff like hikes, dog park runs and lunch dates at dog-friendly places.

Kiri koli
Jun 20, 2005
Also, I can kill you with my brain.

Wally P posted:

Oooo thanks for the information. This makes a lot more sense, given his bolting tendencies.


Just to warn you, the way the canny collar is made is that the part that's attached to the leash connects directly to the part that goes over the nose without other supporting attachments. The result for us was when we put it on Psyche it would just fall off her nose if we didn't hold constant tension on the leash.

Maybe we were doing something wrong or maybe it's because she just has a little nose, but we couldn't get it to work, especially since she hates head collars and will paw at them. We're trying a halti now and I'm shoveling cheese in her mouth to keep her from pawing at it...I hope it works, though I do worry about her taking off after a squirrel and hurting herself. :(

Kiri koli fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Nov 21, 2010

Rixatrix
Aug 5, 2006

Oh god my dogs are so aggressive :ohdear:













To be honest I had to intervene a couple of times. The snarling and growling between Pi and Rho got a tone I didn't like, I think Rho got fed up with Pi being the loud rear end in a top hat he always is. He just BARKSBARKSBARKS and body slams all other dogs. Rho's usually pretty tolerant of him, but now it seemed he was getting fed up.

Vino
Aug 11, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcczk5NGFbw

I said "rump" twice.

Wally P
Jun 3, 2007
spoon!
I bring pictures of brindle bear, as requested.





paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


Wally P posted:



:3: This is the look my dog gives me right before I grab his face and kiss the top of his nose. The curled up not looking look.

Fat Dio
Feb 27, 2010

Rixatrix posted:

Oh god my dogs are so aggressive :ohdear:













To be honest I had to intervene a couple of times. The snarling and growling between Pi and Rho got a tone I didn't like, I think Rho got fed up with Pi being the loud rear end in a top hat he always is. He just BARKSBARKSBARKS and body slams all other dogs. Rho's usually pretty tolerant of him, but now it seemed he was getting fed up.

Okay I used to be only interested in herding and retrieving breeds but this thread and your dogs are making me more and more interested in awesome dogs like this. I love this thread and all the dogs in it :3:

solbaid
Jun 14, 2003
HA! HA! I'm using the internet!
Cool dogs!

solbaid fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jan 15, 2013

Kerfuffle
Aug 16, 2007

The sky calls to us~
nice brown dog bro

Invalid Octopus
Jun 30, 2008

When is dinner?

Abbeh
May 23, 2006

When I grow up I mean to be
A Lion large and fierce to see.
(Thank you, Das Boo!)
:psyduck: it's like a terrible husky nightmare

a life less
Jul 12, 2009

We are healthy only to the extent that our ideas are humane.

Invalid Octopus posted:



Your dog and my dog should get together and make a Japanese horror movie.

Invalid Octopus
Jun 30, 2008

When is dinner?

a life less posted:

Your dog and my dog should get together and make a Japanese horror movie.

Not my dog, thank god!

We went to a cart-pulling demonstration at PawsWay this weekend, which included a big burly malamute pulling a scooter.

Citizen Rat
Jan 17, 2005

Invalid Octopus posted:



awww poor baby. He's gotten up there and now he has no idea how to get back down!

paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


Invalid Octopus posted:



OMGWAT. :psyduck: You apparently own a mountain goat in wolf's clothing.

Wally P
Jun 3, 2007
spoon!
I have no idea why it took me this long to do this.

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paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


^^^^ SO dapper! :3:

----

Very interesting article from a few years back from a mailing list group. Thought I'd share this with y'all. (still working on articles, I promise.)

quote:

What makes a Primitive Breed?

quote:

Hi,
To answer this question is that the dog world is divided into two
groups and there is a big difference in history on how they came about. The
first group are the breeds that everyone is familiar with today and is what
is commonly seen and known in the dog show world. These however are breeds
that man has created (just over 300-different diverse dog breeds). However
these are man-made breeds, originally created years ago to do
specific work or jobs and are only about 200-years old in existence.

The second group are old aboriginal dogs or indigenous dogs whose history
go back to the early beginnings. These dogs evolved and adapted both
geographically to their homes and have always been there. In many cases
these dogs migrated with the early ancient people who make up this world
today. They are as diverse as their people yet many share a proto-type
physical appearance (prick eared, semi curved tail). These are not man-made
breeds, but dogs who are "thousands" of years old. Nobody made them...
mother nature molded and created them.

Aboriginal dogs and early man go way back and have always been there.
They were used as hunting aids and still are in many remote places of the
world. Transportation (sled dogs) in the northern regions such as Greenland
and the Artic included entire human population survival dependence upon
their dogs! Did you know that when the snow mobile was invented and the
modern world was introduced, the Canadian Inuit Dog who has been there for
thousands of years in the north almost perished into extinction? Numbers
dropped from about 20,000 dogs to only 200 in the 1970's!

Many of these incredible ancient dogs (who are the founders of every single
breed ever created here) are disappearing worldwide at an rapid rate by
outside influences and hybridization by the modern 200-year old man-made
breeds. Only a few of these old breeds today are recognized today in
the modern dog world but it doesn't even begin to make up for those who
still exist out there today and have no familiar names. In many cases they
are called mongrels, pariahs or feral wild dogs by our world. Many are seen
scavenging off remote villages. But if you are in the middle of Borneo or
remote areas of Africa or India, I can assure that you these are probably
not mongrels. They are very uniformed in looks and are native dogs.

What makes these dogs so special is that aboriginal dog lack many of the
domestic qualities we see in man-made breeds. They are not exactly motivated
to serve man or the most obedient at times because they think independently
(just like us) and need a good reason to pay attention to a human command.
This is not a fault at all, or a lack of intelligence, but shear brilliance
and a built-in instinct for survival. They are not Shepherds, Labs or
Spaniels who were selectively bred and created to work for man. They did not
evolve the same way. These dogs survived on their own over the millenniums,
sometimes with man as companions and sometimes not.

Whether you like it or not the Shiba Inu falls into this category. They too
are a very old indigenous dogs. So are Basenjis, Jindos, Pharaoh Hounds,
Canaan Dogs, Xoloitzcuintli, Shikoku, Azawak, Saluki, Iceland Dog, Greenland
Dog and the Karelian Bear Dog just to name just a few. The only two "real"
primitive breeds left on this planet today are the Australian Dingo and the
New Guinea Singing Dog because they are considered the oldest dogs left
alive on this planet and date back 6,000 to 7,000 years (possibly much
older) due to remote geographical isolation.

[...]

I think for those looking for a dog they should do their homework first to
see if this is a dog you can live with. If you are looking for an obedient,
easy keeping dog, then the aboriginal dog is probably not the best pick.
There are plenty of man-made breeds to fill this niche. For those who enjoy
the challenge of staying two steps ahead and love living with an independent
spirit, there is no life like it. Keeping in mind that living with this
kind of dog is like living with a young child, who needs much supervision,
love, patience and positive training. Most have incredible prey drives, can
never be let off leash loose and can sometimes be dog aggressive. They are
very different dogs.

Just something to read since I've been a bad OP. :(

Also, here's Koji being adorable as hell after ripping my very nice sheets. DOG.

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