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Himuro posted:I'm disappointed Kanye has morphed into a generic rap icon. To me, Kanye used to be a symbol for alternative hip hop Are people just loving with me or do they actually believe this? Not including MBDTF which will surely go #1, his albums have debuted #1,1,1, and 2 on the Billboard 200 chart. And the 5 years period before he began his solo career, he was the most sought-after producer in hip-hop not named The Neptunes. He's never been a symbol for "alternative hip hop," whatever that is.
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Anyone know who is singing the last variation of the chorus on All of the Lights? It sounds like old-time black gospel singers and I love it.
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So has anyone noticed that Kanye hasn't updated his Twitter in the last six days, not to mention the absence of this week's Good Friday track? I realize the album is being officially released in a day, but you'd think he'd say one way or the other "Oh yeah, no free song this week." Instead he just seems to have up and died.
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Brett824 posted:Rome got Gidget is a reference to Gidget Goes To Rome, the other got Bridget is a reference to Bridget Jones. Rome and London are sister cities, and going from Rome to London is a 'trip'. Bridget and Gidget in the context of the song are both "sisters" (culturally (they're black)) and sisters, biologically. I thought Bridget Jones was White? Both the author writing her and the actress portraying her were white, and unless I just don't see it, the wiki says nothing about the character being black.
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bows1 posted:I thought Bridget Jones was White? Both the author writing her and the actress portraying her were white, and unless I just don't see it, the wiki says nothing about the character being black. Kanye is telling a story about him meeting two black sisters named Bridget and Gidget ("they black, they sisters.. their momma named them after white bitches"). It is paralleled by references to characters in fiction and two cities. Thrust On Moore posted:So has anyone noticed that Kanye hasn't updated his Twitter in the last six days, not to mention the absence of this week's Good Friday track? I realize the album is being officially released in a day, but you'd think he'd say one way or the other "Oh yeah, no free song this week." Instead he just seems to have up and died. Big Sean tweeted that G.O.O.D. Friday is going to be late. I'm assuming Kanye is just super super busy. He doesn't even have a cell phone, so for him to tweet he needs to be at a computer.
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Brett824 posted:Kanye is telling a story about him meeting two black sisters named Bridget and Gidget ("they black, they sisters.. their momma named them after white bitches"). It is paralleled by references to characters in fiction and two cities. Oh my mistake.
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Nov 21, 2010 20:18
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"I don't need your pussy bitch, i'm on my own dick" is my favorite ego stroking line. I was impressed with Ross' appearances on the album. I've never been a fan of his as his flow has always come across as "fat dude who gets winded quickly."
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Nov 21, 2010 20:48
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the Bunt posted:Anyone know who is singing the last variation of the chorus on All of the Lights? It sounds like old-time black gospel singers and I love it. "I tried to tell you but all I can say . . ."? I don't have a source, but the general consensus is that it's Elton John.
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The Modern Leper posted:"I tried to tell you but all I can say . . ."? I don't have a source, but the general consensus is that it's Elton John. No, I recognized that part as Elton. I mean the bit right before the beat comes back in. It's a repetition of "turn up the lights in here baby..." hook but with different vocalists.
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Nov 21, 2010 22:46
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The Joy is amazing but what the gently caress is with that weird grunting/groaning sample in the background throughout the whole song? Could do without it, haha.
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Nov 21, 2010 23:39
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Chiming in with some more praise for this album, one of the best of the year for me. My favourite tracks are So Appalled, Dark Fantasy and Blame Game, which is probably my favourite Kanye song to date. One of the lines particularly stands out for me: I heard he bought some coke with my money, that ain't right girl/ You getting blackmailed for that white girl/ I didn't know Kanye was capable of such wordplay, I'm guessing it might have been ghostwritten, top marks if it wasn't.
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Not sure on the ghostwriting status. He's getting really feisty with these deceptively "standard" sounding lyrics. It feels like people are reeeally not wanting to give him props for his rhymes and I don't get it.
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Has Kanye said what he's saying during the distorted, autotuned part of Runaway? Rolling Stone called it a guitar solo, but I can distinctly hear him say "So let's have a toast" towards the end.Bubble Bathory posted:Not sure on the ghostwriting status. He's getting really feisty with these deceptively "standard" sounding lyrics. I suspect Kanye had some ghostwritten lyrics as well. His flow and his rhymes are just so improved over his previous albums that it's not out of the question that he had someone come in and write (or at the very least coach) him.
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KayJay748 posted:Chiming in with some more praise for this album, one of the best of the year for me. My favourite tracks are So Appalled, Dark Fantasy and Blame Game, which is probably my favourite Kanye song to date. One of the lines particularly stands out for me: I don't see whats the great wordplay here, seems like a pretty standard line. I like it but I don't see what you mean
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HalPhilipWalker posted:Has Kanye said what he's saying during the distorted, autotuned part of Runaway? Rolling Stone called it a guitar solo, but I can distinctly hear him say "So let's have a toast" towards the end. I think he's just kind of vocalizing wordlessly and every now and then singing words from the chorus.
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bows1 posted:I don't see whats the great wordplay here, seems like a pretty standard line. I like it but I don't see what you mean I think the line is You getting black male For that white, girl Meaning she's getting banged by another black dude. Sounds like blackmail but it's not, pretty clever
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Nov 22, 2010 05:31
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As a guy who primarily listens to black metal and other ugly forms of music, this album is loving incredible. I can't get enough of it and in my humble opinion, Kanye is one of the only real artists left out there. Runaway, Blame Game, All of the Lights are my standout tracks, perfection. Just as good as 808's.
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HalPhilipWalker posted:Has Kanye said what he's saying during the distorted, autotuned part of Runaway? Rolling Stone called it a guitar solo, but I can distinctly hear him say "So let's have a toast" towards the end. Like Bubble Bathory said, I don't think it's supposed to matter. Whether the inability to decipher words is Kanye making meaningful, symbolic statement in the context of the song or as something that just sounds very cool (I haven't quite decided which one I think it is yet), it's one of the highlights of the album for me. The words start to become intelligible near the end of the song, but he's just repeating the chorus, as far as I can tell. EDIT: Album now out on Amazon, $4 for MP3 download here. trigger9631 fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Nov 22, 2010 |
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Nov 22, 2010 05:47
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bows1 posted:I don't see whats the great wordplay here, seems like a pretty standard line. I like it but I don't see what you mean It also works because it's almost certainly a reference to his ex using money Kanye paid her as a confidentiality settlement. Like he's being blackmailed for her silence on his dirty secrets.
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illcendiary posted:I think the line is It's "blackmailed", but that word was chosen because it does also sound like "black maled" -- wordplay, you know? It's also how in the line "Too many Urkels on your team, that's why your wins low" refers to both losing and to Carl Winslow on Family Matters. "White girl" is also slang for cocaine, referencing the coke in the previous line. Anything else?
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Nov 22, 2010 06:15
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I really hope we don't need to explain slang in a thread about a rap album.
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And stuff like that^^ make me think Kanye had a ghostwriter. Did he have wordplay that clever on any previous albums?
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Nov 22, 2010 06:19
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Yes? He's got mad punchlines, he has a natural affinity for double meanings. Kanye has been underrated as an MC for a long time, check him on All Falls Down, Get 'Em High, Spaceship, Diamonds from Sierra Leone, Touch the Sky, Back Like That Remix, Throw Some D's Remix... I mean I don't doubt he works with writers but he's clearly a clever dude.
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Nov 22, 2010 06:34
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This album is ridiculous. Every song is fantastic but All of the Lights is gonna have to be my favorite. There's just so much going on in that song.
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Nov 22, 2010 06:47
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So is this out in stores yet? I'm holding off on hearing it until I can get my hands on a physical copy and reading this thread is pretty hard now. I heard some people say Monday but a couple people in here reported picking it up, I don't know.
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Nov 22, 2010 06:48
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http://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Dar...EVH9W0JZFYW70YE 4 bux on amazon
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HalPhilipWalker posted:And stuff like that^^ make me think Kanye had a ghostwriter. Did he have wordplay that clever on any previous albums? Role Play McMurphy posted:Yes? He's got mad punchlines, he has a natural affinity for double meanings. Seriously. Listen to College Dropout and Late Registration. Dude's raps are underrated as hell. He even goes out of his way to mention it a few times.
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http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14880-my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy/ Holy. loving. poo poo. I understand Pitchfork is just one of many popular and influential music websites, but a 10.0 from them is unheard of.  Kanye. Let's all have a toast to the douchebags.
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I am confused by the people underrating his wordplay and lyricism. Do you just let his ridiculous persona cloud his music? Separate the two, leave all the shennanigans out of it and listen to his songs. He's always had witty lyrics, wordplay, double meanings, the whole thing. A thing I learned a long time ago, judge the music and the musician separately, it's how I can listen to so many "emo" bands. Just because they dress like girls doesn't mean they can't rock.
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Superchunk posted:http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14880-my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy/ The last album that got a 10.0 on it's initial release was Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, which came out eight years ago. Goddamn.
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10? Open the  -gates.
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Superchunk posted:http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14880-my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy/  Wow.I was joking with a friend that this would happen a week or so ago, but I didn't actually expect it to. Bravo.
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Additionally, there is something way the gently caress wrong with the mixing or mastering or Amazon or something. The whole album sounds like 64kbps on $2 earbuds.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:It's "blackmailed", but that word was chosen because it does also sound like "black maled" -- wordplay, you know? It's also how in the line "Too many Urkels on your team, that's why your wins low" refers to both losing and to Carl Winslow on Family Matters. Bonye West posted:I really hope we don't need to explain slang in a thread about a rap album. I understood all of it. Just didn't seem like amazing wordplay, hes had better. Thats all
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Does anyone know where the background art for the G.O.O.D. Fridays tracks are coming from? They're killer.
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theflyingexecutive posted:Additionally, there is something way the gently caress wrong with the mixing or mastering or Amazon or something. The whole album sounds like 64kbps on $2 earbuds. That's what happens when you have Vlado Meller master your album. Monster: 
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theflyingexecutive posted:10? Open the This was just posted by a fellow manager at my radio station on Facebook. He's completely serious (but also a huge drama queen hah) 
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More than three years of anticipation finally culminates tomorrow morning. I can't believe it's finally here.
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