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Julet Esqu posted:When I was reading the books, I always imagined Umbridge as this lady: Buc-ket residence, lady of the house speaking~
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Nov 10, 2010 08:35
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Honestly, since watching A Very Potter Sequel, I can't see as Umbridge as anyone but this guy.
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Nov 10, 2010 15:45
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Soy Sauce Beast posted:Honestly, since watching A Very Potter Sequel, I can't see as Umbridge as anyone but this guy. Did you get my text messaaaaage?
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Nov 10, 2010 15:53
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I still find it tragic that they wasted Pam Ferris on some throwaway role in Azkaban. I always thought she'd be a fine Umbridge.
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Nov 11, 2010 06:23
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Finished the 5th book and watched the 5th movie. They really did avoid using Dobby in the 4th and 5th movie. Shoehorned Neville in there to give Harry gillyweed and then got Neville to just magically walk by the Room of Requirement. I can't wait for Dobby's return in the movie! Well it'll be loving sad. I can't wait to see how Daniel Radcliffe approaches that scene..
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Nov 12, 2010 06:53
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Soy Sauce Beast posted:Honestly, since watching A Very Potter Sequel, I can't see as Umbridge as anyone but this guy. Holy shiiit thi is amazing!
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Nov 12, 2010 10:51
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So I'm in the middle of The Magicians as per recommendation by this thread. Any other stuff? Did I miss a good book or a list when I skimmed the pages?
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Nov 12, 2010 15:44
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Biplane posted:Holy shiiit thi is amazing! A Very Potter Musical is really good and done by those same guys. It's the first play in their series, with AVPSequel being the second.
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Nov 12, 2010 16:19
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Hedrigall posted:So my sister-in-law is a huge Harry Potter fan and I am pretty sure she would really like these. is there a publication with these covers, or are these posters or just images?
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Nov 13, 2010 19:07
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Those are some of the new softback covers for the UK editions, as I recall.
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Nov 13, 2010 19:36
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I think a better question to. Ask is if there are leather bound hardcovers. Are there?
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Nov 13, 2010 19:36
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I've got mine re-bound in House Elf skin.
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Nov 13, 2010 19:53
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reflir posted:I've got mine re-bound in House Elf skin. Mudblood, real pure bloods like me use basilisk hide. You must be one of those weasleys with no money.
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Nov 13, 2010 20:22
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I have mine made from actual mudbloods. The pages are made from mudbloods, cover from blood traitors.
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Nov 13, 2010 20:28
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bobkatt013 posted:I have mine made from actual mudbloods. The pages are made from mudbloods, cover from blood traitors. Wow, I like that. Very dark. I liked the look of the muggleskin set I saw at Borgin and Burkes, but the smell of them was repulsive.
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Nov 13, 2010 20:40
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bobkatt013 posted:I have mine made from actual mudbloods. The pages are made from mudbloods, cover from blood traitors. Is that the edition written in goblin blood?
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Nov 13, 2010 21:15
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geeves posted:Is that the edition written in goblin blood? Unicorn
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2step posted:I still find it tragic that they wasted Pam Ferris on some throwaway role in Azkaban. I always thought she'd be a fine Umbridge. I started reading the books after I saw Azkaban in theaters (I had seen Philosopher's, got told never to think about Harry Potter again because it was evil, said gently caress it when Azkaban came out, loved it, read the books) and when I finished reading Order, I said "drat that woman who played Trenchbull in Matilda would be loving great as Umbridge. Then my friend pointed out she was in Azkaban as Marge. Boo. I too also pictured Mrs. Bucket as the perfect Umbridge whilst reading. She dresses the part perfectly. Mind you Imelda Staunton pretty much embodied that bitch better than I could have dreamed. My sister got so mad at her when she saw Order in theaters, she started hissing.
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Like others, starting a reread of the series after seeing the new movie. It did make me recall a train of thought I had on my last reading of the books regarding the Wizarding World. Going from the movies and what was said in the books, it feels as if the Wizarding World's in a downward spiral of stagnation. Looking at Diagon Alley, it pretty much resembles London of the late 1800s. Dress styles are similar in period to some point and from what limited bits of a wizard interacting outside the wizarding community it goes beyond just an unfamiliarity and into something drastically alien. I'd think in light of the need to keep up the premise of hiding from the muggles, there'd at least be some better knowledge of what's going on with some of the basic trends with the muggle world to make for a more convincing charade. Equally while not much was really gone into with muggle born wizards such as numbers or wider impressions beyond the Malfoy pov or the altered MoM, it seemed as if there was an unsaid push towards intermarriage within the community going from what was mentioned about family trees. There also seemed to be a unified 'dumbing down' of the basic intelligence that there wasn't much done towards critical thinking or innovation. With that said, it would seem as if the Wizarding community would eventually go to something along the route of the Gaunt family, inbred and barely able to function without magic. Going on that tangent, it's similar to the Darksword series I read years ago where the real wizards ended up pulling out completely to their own world and were stagnating into a dying culture that had to reintegrate for survival. Last time I tried to bring this up in discussion elsewhere, it was as if I suggested bold heresies for even considering that there potentially could be something inherently off with the Wizarding World.
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Nah, that's a fairly common notion. Harry's world is very hard to justify past the 1700s or so considering they routinely take muggle-born students. Even then it's sketchy at best. By the 1990s, where HP seems to be set, even gun shy England would see muggle students saying "what the gently caress, give me a cell phone and a G36 and I could single-handedly own this entire community, let alone Voldemort." The wizarding world, especially the ministry supposedly tasked with interfacing with muggles should have been making GBS threads their pants over the several hundred per minute Avada-kevadra spitting machines that anyone from Dumbledore to Dobby can operate past, oh, the 1860s. But we're well into sperg territory at that point.
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M_Sinistrari posted:
I think it's this thread that I posted in or it could have been one of refiler's but I've sort of had the same thoughts you have. I think Rowling either intentionally or unintentionally has mirrored the decline of Britain or Western society in her books. Especially with things like the reliance of standardized testing in education and how bureaucracy is the worst thing ever. You had a lot of thinly veiled criticism at anti-terror legislation as well. I do think it's a huge flaw that Rowling made muggles so retarded in the eyes of the wizarding community. It's pretty shocking how quickly muggle born wizards are indoctrinated in that view point as well.
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I think the wizard community is pretty inbred and barely able to function already. Do they even have paper money?
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Does that really matter when they probably have purses that can teleport money from their vaults or like that bag Hermione made in the last book?
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Starting from book 5 onward Harry Potter novels always came out on my birthday  I'd always burn through them during the day. I read through 7 in a day, but seriously need to re read it before seeing the movie.
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thebardyspoon posted:Does that really matter when they probably have purses that can teleport money from their vaults or like that bag Hermione made in the last book? Then why have an elaborate central bank in the first place?
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Well, either other option would be like carrying a debit card with no pin. And wizards in the HP world are probably too stupid to add further security measures. I mean, when 3 late teens who are middling at best at magic can waltz into what is effectively the vice president's office, security is not a high science.
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It wasn't so much a failure of security as much as it was another failure to acknowledge that How-To magical books are too dangerous to just leave in a library where young children can get to them. The entire series is a result of Voldemort getting to the "How To Murder People And Split Your Soul Up (must be at least 13 years old)" book in the library. So when three late teens are able to make Polyjuice Potion with ease and impersonate a Ministry official, that's a blatant example of the main problem in the magical world. The plebes know too much. Speeeerrrrrgggggggggg
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IRQ posted:Nah, that's a fairly common notion. Harry's world is very hard to justify past the 1700s or so considering they routinely take muggle-born students. Even then it's sketchy at best. You muggles and your guns. Accio G36. 
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bitterandtwisted posted:You muggles and your guns. Accio Voldemort's brain. Boom. Danger over.
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IRQ posted:Nah, that's a fairly common notion. Harry's world is very hard to justify past the 1700s or so considering they routinely take muggle-born students. Even then it's sketchy at best. The situation regarding the Wizarding World in Harry Potter actually inspired me to start work on a fantasy novel that shows what would happen if a secret magical society continued down that route. Eventually, the masquerade cannot be maintained, and when the magical world is finally revealed to the rest of us, all Hell breaks loose.
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THE HORSES rear end posted:The situation regarding the Wizarding World in Harry Potter actually inspired me to start work on a fantasy novel that shows what would happen if a secret magical society continued down that route. Eventually, the masquerade cannot be maintained, and when the magical world is finally revealed to the rest of us, all Hell breaks loose. I'm glad I'm not the only one who is too huge a nerd to get over that. Anyway are we talking about the new movie in here? It was about half an hour too long, other than that no real complaints other than one moment that kind of came out of nowhere. I really don't think it should have been split into two movies either. Has any reason for that been given beyond "we like money"?
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Is the salvation war the collection of forum posts that people think is a novel?
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That also sounds nothing like what The Horses' rear end posted.
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I just finished the whole series for the first time and it was absolutely worth it. I grew up on Lord of the Rings and nothing will surpass that for me, but I can see how this became a modern classic for young adults. Rowling captured a lot of the themes that made Tolkien's work resonate so well with an earlier generation. And yet, one thing kind of bothered me about one of the last chapters in Hallows. Snape's death didn't really sit right by me, and I went back to reread it. I guess I wanted to see a more dramatic redemption, or at least some fleeting moment of happiness for the guy. I also didn't really get why he wanted to look Harry in the eyes so badly as he was dying and then... Oh.  Nicely done, Rowling.
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IRQ posted:I really don't think it should have been split into two movies either. Has any reason for that been given beyond "we like money"? It would have been rushed if all of it was pressed in 2.5h, the result probably pretty similar to the incomprehensible, jumbled mess that was The Goblet of Fire and The Order of the Phoenix (despite some really great scenes, they didn't work well as movies). It might have been 30 min to long (although unlike the book I didn't find the camping trip boring, and the feeling of despair/aimlessness was far better conveyed in the movie), but adding the Gringotts' heist and the Battle of Hogwarts into it would have made in probably 2h too short. Even so they left out nearly all of Dumbledore's backstory and probably will do the same with Snape's.
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IRQ posted:Anyway are we talking about the new movie in here? I thought it was alright. There were some minor deviations from the book I didn't like, but that was made up for by the CGI team nailing the Ron-vs-horcrux scene loving perfectly. It played out exactly like I imagined it. I was especially impressed by horcrux-Harry and horcrux-Hermione actually being "both more terrible and more beautiful" than the real Harry & Hermione, just as they are described in the book. edit: quote:(although unlike the book I didn't find the camping trip boring, and the feeling of despair/aimlessness was far better conveyed in the movie) I'm of the exact opposite opinion. In the book it felt well done, in the movie it felt contrived in a "oh look they are not so subtly signalling Ron is drawing conclusions based on soap opera logic" sort of way. reflir fucked around with this message at 11:27 on Nov 22, 2010 |
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Overall I liked the movie but yea, I hated the camping scene stuff. But that's probably hold over from my dislike of the camping trip in the book. The scene in the beginning, with Hermionie Obliviating her parents, was much more powerful than I remember it being in the book. I looked over the text again and I realized that wasn't a scene in the book at all, she merely describes it in conversation. Its been a while since I've read the series, but were there other bits like that in the movies? Where they showed us even on-screen that were only implied by the text. Normally I'm not a huge fan of book-to-screen conversions (book snob) but I could get behind that kind of movie making, if they treat the movie as a supplement rather than a retelling. I guess that wouldn't fly for most stuff, but for Harry Potter, I'd imagine everyone going to see the movie has read the novels by now.
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reflir posted:I thought it was alright. There were some minor deviations from the book I didn't like, but that was made up for by the CGI team nailing the Ron-vs-horcrux scene loving perfectly. It played out exactly like I imagined it. I was especially impressed by horcrux-Harry and horcrux-Hermione actually being "both more terrible and more beautiful" than the real Harry & Hermione, just as they are described in the book. Sivlan posted:Normally I'm not a huge fan of book-to-screen conversions (book snob) but I could get behind that kind of movie making, if they treat the movie as a supplement rather than a retelling. I guess that wouldn't fly for most stuff, but for Harry Potter, I'd imagine everyone going to see the movie has read the novels by now.
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