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BigHead posted:Gawker has a story about some whiney bitch complaining about $200,000 in student loan debt. This is just like most lawyers, except she has a job. Hilarious article. I came here to post this, but not for the original article. Check out the comment halfway down: quote:loving Ridiculous. Private Loans? 200k for undergrad? I won't be that in debt for my private undergrad and Northeastern Law Degree COMBINED. This is so beatiful it makes me want to cry
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zzyzx posted:Now that's a sentence.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 00:08 |
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A handy gem from a recent columbia email:quote:The number of graduates taking public interest/public service jobs in 2010 was 33% higher than in 2009; and the number of 2Ls taking public interest/public service summer positions in 2010 was nearly seven times as many as in 2008.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 00:34 |
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evilweasel posted:A handy gem from a recent columbia email: I can't believe Columbia 2Ls can't find firm jobs.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 00:48 |
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commish posted:I can't believe Columbia 2Ls can't find firm jobs. The trouble with the internet is it's hard to figure out if someone's being sarcastic or not.
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A student at the fourth tier Touro Law School sets us all straight on why he's made a smart investment in his future:quote:I am a Touro Law Student and I am proud to be a part of that institution. The professors and administration at Touro are not only highly qualified, but they actually care about their students. Also, the sense of camaraderie among the students is something that students at other law schools should consider emulating. The sad rationalizations in this letter are staggeringly awesome. If I had this kid's ability to self-deceive I'd just sit at home secure in the illusion that I'm dating a supermodel while making seven figures and working six hours a week.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 01:28 |
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quote:2. People always are going to need lawyers, thus there will always be a demand despite what the state of the economy may be. The law profession is actually “recession proof”.
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Adar posted:I came here to post this, but not for the original article. Check out the comment halfway down: Not me FYI
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 01:57 |
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These are my favorites: 3. Many lawyers fear increased competition, so they have a direct interest in discouraging people from entering the field. Law services are a product in a sense. The same reason you don’t see Microsoft encouraging competition is the same reason why lawyers don’t – more money can be made when there is less competition. 4. There may actually be a shortage of lawyers in the future, particularly in certain fields and in certain localities. Things like “brain drain” create opportunities for those with skills and an education who stay in such a drained area. Also, why do we forget the coming retirement of the baby-boomers? That actually relates partially to what has been referred to above (more elder law work) and the fact that there are thousands upon thousands of baby-boomer lawyers who will be out of the field in the next 5-10 years. 3: One would think, but the 75 law schools in the past 30 years says otherwise. Also lol at "law services are a product in a sense." 4. Is he seriously suggesting that the United States is becomes such an unattractive husk of a country that people are actively fleeing it? As an attorney trained in US law, your "product in a sense" is invaluable to other countries not experiencing " things like brain drain." I am a Touro law grad. I have no understanding for basic logic (thousands retiring + tens of thousands entering = job opportunities?) or sentence structure.
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We didn't do things because they weren't hard, we did them because they were in fact hard. We doing hard things. If things were anything other than hard, we would not do them because everyone else would be doing these non-hard things.
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did my best without going into any major rewritesquote:I am a Touro Law Student and I am proud to be a part of that institution. The professors and administration at Touro are not only highly qualified, but they actually care about their students. Also, the sense of camaraderie among the students is something that students at other law schools should consider emulating. Linguica fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Nov 23, 2010 |
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Touro is a good school, because it gives people at Brooklyn an institution to look down on, which isn't a very easy task.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 02:48 |
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Linguica posted:What? All this graph shows is whether the circuit judge providing the clerk was nominated by a Democrat or by a Republican. It's still possible for a circuit judge to hire someone of the opposite political party and for that person to get a clerkship with SCOTUS. It may not happen often (or at all in Thomas's case, apparently) but it could happen and wouldn't be reflected in this chart if it did.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 02:49 |
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evilweasel posted:A handy gem from a recent columbia email: Hey I have a government job and I love it. I've been meaning to write about it but all the free time I have makes me lazy or something.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 02:49 |
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Although I guess you can say that about every school except Yale. gently caress you, Yale.
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Draile posted:All this graph shows is whether the circuit judge providing the clerk was nominated by a Democrat or by a Republican. It's still possible for a circuit judge to hire someone of the opposite political party and for that person to get a clerkship with SCOTUS. It may not happen often (or at all in Thomas's case, apparently) but it could happen and wouldn't be reflected in this chart if it did.
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Roger_Mudd, I just had an idea. We need an old, alcholic drunken redneck Texas lawyer to do it but I think it's possible (and I know one). Both of us join him and open a criminal law/family law firm, pitch it to TLC and get crazy loving clients through free advertising. One of us has to sleep with our clients and one of us has to be the giant yelling rear end in a top hat. We'll be rich. And have jobs. G-Mawwwwwww fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Nov 23, 2010 |
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builds character posted:Class of 2009 – $7,500 gently caress YOU AND YOUR lovely BONUSES CRAVATH! NOT EVERYONE'S FIRM IS AS BONED AS YOURS BUT YOU hosed US ANYWAY YOU SHITWEASELS!
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 03:29 |
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Mookie posted:gently caress YOU AND YOUR lovely BONUSES CRAVATH! NOT EVERYONE'S FIRM IS AS BONED AS YOURS BUT YOU hosed US ANYWAY YOU SHITWEASELS! I was wondering how long that would take.
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e: nm, comments still there, still laughing
Adar fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Nov 23, 2010 |
# ? Nov 23, 2010 03:34 |
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Omerta posted:I was wondering how long that would take. Until I took the time to check ATL and then get over the red mist of rage that came across my vision. When I came to, there were three dead hookers in my office...
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 03:37 |
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10-8 posted:A student at the fourth tier Touro Law School sets us all straight on why he's made a smart investment in his future: My cousin graduated from Touro. In his defense, he is a smart kid who just bombed the LSATs, and he killed it in law school and was accepted into AF JAG. But I went to that graduation, and their class speaker basically gave a speech about how he had been a struggling actor who met a lawyer in an Armani suit so he decided to go to law school, and now he is graduating from law school and there are no jobs. It was horrid.
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Mookie posted:Until I took the time to check ATL and then get over the red mist of rage that came across my vision. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29d6RDSK1c
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 05:07 |
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My evidence textbook was originally purchased at Touro Law School. The former owner underlined basically every single word and wrote nonsensical or blatantly obvious notes in the margins.' Also lots of exclamation points.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 05:08 |
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I have gone to law school specifically with the desire to practice elder law....where are these (non-solo) jobs?
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 05:40 |
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CaptainScraps posted:Harvey, I just had an idea.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 06:25 |
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I just applied for a job that requires a JD and pays $30k a year. gently caress this gay life.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 06:30 |
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Dantu posted:I just applied for a job that requires a JD and pays $30k a year. gently caress this gay life. Have you considered working for TSA? In terms of public perception, lawyer to airport security seems like a lateral move these days.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 07:27 |
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Alaemon posted:Have you considered working for TSA? In terms of public perception, lawyer to airport security seems like a lateral move these days. Maybe.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 07:30 |
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nm posted:Lawyers probably touch less junk. I assume everyone's read about the Michigan lawyer who told his female divorce clients they could settle his fee on the "couch of restitution"? Because that guy was MADE for TSA.
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 07:40 |
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urmomhasaids posted:I have gone to law school specifically with the desire to practice elder law....where are these (non-solo) jobs? Lots of client turnover in that.
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Petey posted:Lots of client turnover in that. Gotta turn them over every two hours to prevent bedsores
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 15:17 |
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I would much rather practice Elder law
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 15:39 |
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Mookie posted:gently caress YOU AND YOUR lovely BONUSES CRAVATH! NOT EVERYONE'S FIRM IS AS BONED AS YOURS BUT YOU hosed US ANYWAY YOU SHITWEASELS! Sorry about your monies though
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# ? Nov 23, 2010 15:41 |
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Defenestration posted:Shoulda gone to Quinn, since they seem to be the only firm that is willing to make an independent decision on anything rather than follow the leader like corporate sheeple Plus then you could have gone hiking with JQ who is, I hear, a totally awesome dude and does run a "sweatshop" in any sense of the word. At least their firm leader is honest about bonuses (or at least he was last year). Defleshed posted:That is basically all I see when I read the posts about this poo poo on ATL. Why do I even read ATL I don't think I could care any less about 95% of the things that get posted over there. Sometimes it's really difficult to walk a mile in someone else's bespoke shoes. edit: 2007 was the best year. 115k bonus for 8th years. builds character fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Nov 23, 2010 |
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Can someone explain why Cravath's bonus structure is a big deal? From the comments here, I am assuming that Cravath is a benchmark that other BigLaw firms measure against.
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entris posted:Can someone explain why Cravath's bonus structure is a big deal? From the comments here, I am assuming that Cravath is a benchmark that other BigLaw firms measure against. Cravath invented the modern business model for practicing law. All other big law just parrot them.
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entris posted:Can someone explain why Cravath's bonus structure is a big deal? From the comments here, I am assuming that Cravath is a benchmark that other BigLaw firms measure against. Firms tend to make a concerted effort to follow each other on compensation and bonuses. Cravath tends to be one of the benchmarks (for good or for ill). Cravath also happens to have had a lot of problems during the recession, and took a very large hit to its bottom line. So Cravath gave lovely bonuses. It also gave them early, most likely in order to prevent other benchmark firms from getting out in front of it. I bet we get to watch Irell, Skadden, and possibly Kirkland pay better bonuses, and the rest of the major firms sodomize their associates because Cravath did. Rad.
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If anyone is a UCC expert I have something I could use some advice on.
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Roger_Mudd posted:Cravath invented the modern business model for practicing law. All other big law just parrot them. I think you mean, the modern business model for practicing BigLaw. ...and isn't this the same model that is currently under attack?
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