Momomo posted:

I've already played the first game, so I bought Invisible War cause it was on sale. Are there any good mods for it? Mostly something that'll make it widescreen?

Luigi Thirty posted:

What a deal.

Buy this game if you haven't

BattleMaster posted:

Just in case you think you're playing off of "what a shame", JC actually does say "what a deal" when you buy the pack of LAMs from Smuggler just before the superfreighter mission. So the quote actually works even better when talking about the 8-pack of Deus Ex.

YOURFRIEND posted:

I like IW a lot more than I like Deus Ex.

YOURFRIEND posted:

I like IW a lot more than I like Deus Ex.

YOURFRIEND posted:

I like IW a lot more than I like Deus Ex.

Dr Snofeld posted:

There's a pretty good texture pack, and I know there's a way to make it widescreen, but I forgot.

bomper posted:

It's so fun to just kill hella random dudes and be all like whassup now bitch? and pretend you're some badass who takes orders from nobody in that game

Hardtarget posted:

huh neat. I'm thinking about replaying the original game, any texture packs like these but for DX1 that people recommend?

Bats posted:

http://www.offtopicproductions.com/hdtp/

Get that for some better textures.

http://kentie.net/article/d3d10drv/

Get that to update the unreal renderer to directx 9/10/11. It makes it run/look nicer and also lets you enable some additional features via the unreal engine console/gui, like AA etc.

bomper posted:

It's so fun to just kill hella random dudes and be all like whassup now bitch? and pretend you're some badass who takes orders from nobody in that game

YOURFRIEND posted:

I like IW a lot more than I like Deus Ex.

YOURFRIEND posted:

bitterandtwisted posted:

I'm playing Invisible War (bought it when it was bundled with the first game on Steam for about £3) and I don't know what to do with all these biomod canisters people are handing out like sweeties. I've already upgraded the mods I think are most useful and I'd have to override them to install new ones, wasting the three canisters I used to get there. Am I going to end up lugging dozens of useless canisters around by the end of the game or is there something I can do with them?

YOURFRIEND posted:

It's funny, because you're describing the terribly deadpan character of JC Denton.

I played through Deus Ex until I get captured? And ended up in a laboratory somewhere? It was frustrating because the area before it was a forced loss, it's impossible to kill the robot-guy who "captures" you and that was really irksome. Then it puts me in a jail cell "oh no how am I gonna get out of this????" answer: deus ex. And then into a boring samey laboratory and I gave up. I played through liberty island because everybody always says that it gets better after that, but it doesn't. I went from liberty island to a dark city where everything looked like it was made out of mud and I forced myself to beat that part then hey! Back on liberty island fighting terrorists apparently. Also my brother was doing suspect things for some reason. I don't know. Half my time in that game was spent wandering around and being bored hoping someone interesting would show up and engage me. I never felt like I was having an impact on the story and I never felt like the setting was fleshed out to where I could begin to understand everything that was going on or why I should care. Additionally I have an abiding distaste for early 3-D graphics, the textures and sharp polygons really get on my nerves and give me a headache after a while. And no I am not interesting in spending several hours of mods that will probably not improve an experience I found dubious at best.

Invisible War on the other hand was a tightly controlled experience. You went through it, were given your choices, it was good. You were rewarded for exploring and I really liked the biomod(?) system in that game. Also I thought egypt had great atmosphere. It really reminds me of the original Fable and Thief 3, both games that I enjoy. Of course it's a flawed experience but I think those are just the kind of games I like.

Category Fun! posted:

Is it worth getting DX2 on the cheap?

Hogburto posted:

Clearly your experience was soured by an inability to read or write when Deus Ex was first released.

YOURFRIEND posted:

Well, I was twelve when it was released and I suppose playing as trenchcoat guy with no vocal inflection may have appealed to me at that time. However the first time I played the game was last year and I found JC to be a boring protagonist, listlessly idling through whatever the plot threw at him.

I'm not trolling. I just think Invisible War is a far better game than it gets credit for, and definitely worth picking up for cheap. I wouldn't say I *love* it nor would I say it's the "worst game ever" by a long shot.

YOURFRIEND posted:

Their militant defense of a mediocre ten year old game most of them enjoyed when they were pre-teens says a lot about the game itself, no?

YOURFRIEND posted:

Their militant defense of a mediocre ten year old game most of them enjoyed when they were pre-teens says a lot about the game itself, no?

YOURFRIEND posted:

However the first time I played the game was last year and I found JC to be a boring protagonist, listlessly idling through whatever the plot threw at him.

Jerome Agricola posted:

It really doesn't. I get it that you're trying to get a rise out of these guys, but seriously this says nothing about the game. Try harder.

Hogburto posted:

If you got to the jail cell without figuring out why Paul's behavior was standing out, you're a moron.
Or you skipped through the dialogue all the dialogue in the game up to there since you started that in Liberty Island after hearing it was slow-paced and you just hoped the story would be fed to you through cinematics instead and blamed the game when it wasn't.
Or wandering around waiting for "someone interesting" to "show up and engage you" like you're in a tunnel-pathed console fps plot driven by the character inevitably moving toward the next area. A game with a "tightly-controlled experience. You went through" to get your food pellet of next plot point.

Mainly, I think it comes down to that if you think the plot of Deus Ex isn't "fleshed out" there is something wrong with you in the skull area. Every part of the plot is covered from multiple sources in the game; the mood of the environment is established in books, scenes, characters; you're character's origins and purpose are hinted and revealed; there is an ongoing relevant sub-story you find chapters of in books as you go. The game is thorough enough that it explains itself literally and philosophically (for gently caress's sake).

But kudos for tolerating the game almost up to the part where your character starts heavily influencing the plot.

YOURFRIEND posted:

I'm not. I don't do that. I understand that you are incapable of believing that someone sees flaws in Deus Ex, but it's simply not a component of my personalty to mess with people or be dishonest with my opinions.

YOURFRIEND posted:

People always describe this as a game I'd really love, something open ended and rewarding and with a lot of layers to peel back. I found none of that. I love Mass Effect and games like that, I read every codex entry and felt really immersed in the world. It's possible that I'm just spoiled by modern gaming; I think that if Deus Ex had a codex feature where I could read up on the technology and setting I would've liked it a lot more.

Tarquinn posted:

I really like IW too. The songs they used for the night club level in the beginning made me actually track down and order the CD of the band responsible. Also enjoyed the background of the cyborg faction and some of the level designs, among other things. Sure, it had its flaws, but all in all I would call it a good game.

Now don't get me wrong, IW comes nowhere close to its predecessor, which is still one of the best games ever made, but I think that most people treat it too harshly.

YOURFRIEND posted:

Well no, I understood what Paul's(that's his name?) thing was. He was questioning the motivations of the people you both work for, right? It's fairly heavy handed. I didn't skip any of the dialouge at all, I walked around and explored and spoke to everyone, expecting them to flesh out the setting and their characters. They did not. People always describe this as a game I'd really love, something open ended and rewarding and with a lot of layers to peel back. I found none of that. I love Mass Effect and games like that, I read every codex entry and felt really immersed in the world. It's possible that I'm just spoiled by modern gaming; I think that if Deus Ex had a codex feature where I could read up on the technology and setting I would've liked it a lot more.