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Dead Snoopy posted:Thank you for this. Easily the most pretentious poo poo I have ever seen. And I sat through Under The Cherry Moon. Twice. "First rule in this world baby, don't pay attention to anything you see in the news" *Cut to giant explosion*
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 03:09 |
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This is a little gossip news-y, but I find it funny that Kanye wears an arabic chain that roughly translates to his own name. I mean I thought he had converted or something at first..
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 03:19 |
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Brett824 posted:
My girlfriend says it says "Kan-yay," so do with that what you will.
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 05:06 |
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HampHamp posted:I'm not sure exactly why but the line about putting a pussy in a sarcophagus is the funniest thing I've ever heard in a song. I think it's the Bugs Bunny-like "ehhhh" leading into the line and the hard "K" sounds in "sarcophagus." Hard "K" sounds = funny.
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 05:31 |
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The Modern Leper posted:I think it's the Bugs Bunny-like "ehhhh" leading into the line and the hard "K" sounds in "sarcophagus." Hard "K" sounds = funny. I think it's simply just the choice of words. I remember my roommate burst out laughing on the first listen, it's just a funny thing to say. It all helps in the end though.
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 06:08 |
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Dead Snoopy posted:Thank you for this. Easily the most pretentious poo poo I have ever seen. And I sat through Under The Cherry Moon. Twice. taking kanye seriously at any point is where you went wrong
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 07:53 |
The Modern Leper posted:For those interested in the Nicki Minaj aspect of this whole process, there's a fairly decent article on theawl about Pink Friday: drat that idiot must have never heard of Roxanne Shante. Related to your (previous poster I quoted) example of reading too much into the lyrics, I'm going to overanalyze the poo poo out of something I'm listening to right now to show you how loving easy it is to do, especially with rap: On Vado's "Celebration", he says "I move chickens on the strip like Popeyes/Coke in the pot rise, diamond cuts clean with Barack's size". He's referring to cocaine dealing. Did you notice that "pop" is a synonym for "coke"? That's some deep wordplay! And "pop eyes" could refer to him punching someone, like a boxer. drat, you'd have to listen deep to get that! Also, "chickens" could refer to bricks of cocaine. Buildings use bricks, and Popeyes is a building. Bet you didn't think of that! That's how stupid you sound. That's ok though, I've done similar things in the past, and whenever someone goes through a rap song line by line, I often see this kid of poo poo. The only "real" possible wordplay is, "chickens" could refer to prostitutes or packets of cocaine. It's quite possible that Vado did not intend that pun, though.
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 12:12 |
I've never been a huge Kanye fan, but after hearing the album is good from pretty much everywhere I gave it a download from the Zune store. And...Yeah, it's pretty loving good.
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 15:31 |
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I bought my first ever Kanye West album just last night on iTunes. I've always liked West's music, but an album really has to move me to get me to buy it. Needless to say, this album moved me. I love how loud and booming it is, and then suddenly self-reflective, celebratory in one since while being simultaneously self-effacing and boastful in another. This album is gorgeous. I applaud West for being weird, experimental, and ballsy. On a side note, I never really got on the hate for West's maniacal ego. It's wonderful theater even if West is being sincere. It's even better because he is so talented. Maybe the answer seems obvious to some people, but why do we insist that entertainers be humble?
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 18:54 |
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BubbleGoose posted:Maybe the answer seems obvious to some people, but why do we insist that entertainers be humble? He's been asking this since CD - he did an interview which criticized him for listing The College Dropout as his best album of the year. He said something to the tune of - "We forgot what it means to be proud of something. Everybody demands that you work incredibly hard, do your best, and then act like you didn't invest your life into it. That's just wrong. I'm proud of the work I did on the album and to me it is the best album of the year." (Very horribly paraphrased)
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 19:17 |
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BubbleGoose posted:Maybe the answer seems obvious to some people, but why do we insist that entertainers be humble? Uh, the answer is that musicians and entertainers produce...entertainment. Like, in a just world why would anybody get millions for doing this stuff? Some people save lives, some people teach children, some people make great party jams. kanye ego haters like myself see him as way too eager to be a media martyr (part of his MJ fetish). But while MJ was a weirdo who wanted to hide away and always had the press trying to see his secret life, Kanye is a blustery egotist who begs the media to be interested in him and then whines that he's being crucified all while pretty much being the entertainment industry's golden boy. Dude isn't a loving doctor, he's really good at Ableton and pop music. SHINEBLOCKA fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Dec 1, 2010 |
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Bonye West posted:I think it's simply just the choice of words. I remember my roommate burst out laughing on the first listen, it's just a funny thing to say. It all helps in the end though. I keep laughing at lines in the album. I really do like like it but pay attention when in All of the Lights Kanye just starts naming random types of lights. FLASHLIGHTS SPOT LIGHTS STROBE LIGHTS OTHER TYPES OF LIGHTS. The whole pussy in a sarcophagus part is hilarious though, also liked the timing on "My presence is a present kissmyass"
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 21:20 |
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That Complex article is something else. Living by the Kanye commandments for the rest of my life.THE AWESOME GHOST posted:also liked the timing on "My presence is a present kissmyass"
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 21:33 |
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SHINEBLOCKA posted:Uh, the answer is that musicians and entertainers produce...entertainment. Like, in a just world why would anybody get millions for doing this stuff? Some people save lives, some people teach children, some people make great party jams. kanye ego haters like myself see him as way too eager to be a media martyr (part of his MJ fetish). But while MJ was a weirdo who wanted to hide away and always had the press trying to see his secret life, Kanye is a blustery egotist who begs the media to be interested in him and then whines that he's being crucified all while pretty much being the entertainment industry's golden boy. Dude isn't a loving doctor, he's really good at Ableton and pop music. So your saying that entertainers must remain humble? Someone needs to be a doctor or a teacher to feel super proud of their work and flaunt it? I understand that Kanye rubs people the wrong way, and that perhaps a lot of times what he says in his outbursts are not the way to go about conveying his opinions, but saying someone has to be humble unless they offer something that benefits a "just world" society is kind of silly.
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Haledjian posted:That Complex article is something else. Living by the Kanye commandments for the rest of my life. I just can't kick my hipster hat habit.
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 22:28 |
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I'm not even sure what a hipster hat is. Or is that the joke?
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 23:19 |
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Haledjian posted:I'm not even sure what a hipster hat is. Or is that the joke? The first GIS result pretty much sums it up.
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 23:22 |
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I keep laughing at lines in the album. I really do like like it but pay attention when in All of the Lights Kanye just starts naming random types of lights. FLASHLIGHTS SPOT LIGHTS STROBE LIGHTS OTHER TYPES OF LIGHTS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JbUP-skb7E Also, I made a new blog and the first post is a review of this album so if you like what I write for Garbage Day or even if you don't please click and read and stuff, thanks
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# ? Dec 1, 2010 23:48 |
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Skeematic posted:So your saying that entertainers must remain humble? Someone needs to be a doctor or a teacher to feel super proud of their work and flaunt it? I understand that Kanye rubs people the wrong way, and that perhaps a lot of times what he says in his outbursts are not the way to go about conveying his opinions, but saying someone has to be humble unless they offer something that benefits a "just world" society is kind of silly. Dude read the quote I responded to. It's pretty simple.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 00:10 |
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SHINEBLOCKA posted:Dude read the quote I responded to. It's pretty simple. I did, the question posed was "why do we insist that entertainers be humble?" and you replied with "the answer is that musicians and entertainers produce...entertainment", like its some shamefull thing that doesnt give them the right to be proud. I do see why people have a distaste for a lot of Kanye's antics, I do. He makes (what a lot of people feel is) great music and is clearly quite talented, and this shouldnt excuse him from the tirades that he has had. You had brought up Teachers and Doctors, which doesnt really have bearing with "why do we insist that entertainers be humble?" I'd rather my future children have a humble teacher/doctor/other role modle with perhaps some tact to look up to, than a Kanye style teacher who may rant about how little Jimmy's essay was the greatest of all times, but it still doesnt answer why we insist that entertainers be humble. Maybe im just misreading your reply though.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 00:33 |
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I'd never heard a Kanye album before, but had to grab this one based on the hype and crazy reviews I've seen. I've given it a couple listens and I really just can't get into it. The production is undeniably top notch, and the lyrics are interesting but his rapping just sounds really monotonous and mediorcre at best. It's not a terrible album but I'm really surprised by the critical reaction. It'll be interesting to see how time treats it.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 01:58 |
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Kanye West is a huge rear end in a top hat because he knows that in the age of twitter and social networking it's the most effective way of promoting yourself. Being a hashtag in this day and age is more valuable financially than being a respectable person.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 02:24 |
REY DE LA PLAYA posted:Kanye West is a huge rear end in a top hat because he knows that in the age of twitter and social networking it's the most effective way of promoting yourself. Being a hashtag in this day and age is more valuable financially than being a respectable person. Yeah, that certainly is unique to this day and age, never been the case before, etc.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 02:41 |
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Skeematic posted:Maybe im just misreading your reply though. I don't think so, because that's what I got from it. But, really, so what? It's precisely because he's an entertainer in an age where the public insists that famous performers feel guilty about their salaries that I rather enjoy West's publicized histrionics. But I guess I'm in the minority.
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Evil Granny posted:I've given it a couple listens and I really just can't get into it. The production is undeniably top notch, and the lyrics are interesting but his rapping just sounds really monotonous and mediorcre at best. Yeah, West has never struck me as a genius rapper. There are certainly better ones out there, and even on this album, but I think his strengths lies in his musical vision. That's what I focus on in this album.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 03:39 |
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Gorgeous has slowly grown on me. And I even find myself humming Fergie's horrible line in All of the Lights. Kinda disappointed that Never See Me Again isn't on the album though. Parade Maker fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Dec 2, 2010 |
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I keep laughing at lines in the album. I really do like like it but pay attention when in All of the Lights Kanye just starts naming random types of lights. FLASHLIGHTS SPOT LIGHTS STROBE LIGHTS OTHER TYPES OF LIGHTS. BLACK TIGHTS WHITE TIGHTS RED TIGHTS ... ALL OF THE TIGHTS BAR FIGHTS KNIFE FIGHTS GUN FIGHTS ... ALL OF THE FITES BROWN RICE WHITE RICE FRIED RICE ... ALL OF THE RICE Haledjian posted:That Complex article is something else. Living by the Kanye commandments for the rest of my life. Can someone post the pic of the studio rules? Jam2 fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Dec 2, 2010 |
# ? Dec 2, 2010 05:18 |
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Wow can't believe this got snubbed. Grammy's are a joke.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 06:00 |
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KidDynamite posted:Wow can't believe this got snubbed. Grammy's are a joke. kingcobweb fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Dec 2, 2010 |
# ? Dec 2, 2010 06:05 |
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Does it matter anyway? The grammy's are the biggest joke. They don't mean anything.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 06:15 |
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PonchAxis posted:Does it matter anyway? The grammy's are the biggest joke. They don't mean anything. Especially not to Kanye, he's never paid much attention to awards shows.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 06:20 |
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Jam2 posted:I always replace the words in my mind. That made ma laugh, awesome. A FORUM MEMBER posted:
It's sure to be fun.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 06:44 |
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KidDynamite posted:Wow can't believe this got snubbed. Grammy's are a joke. He released it too late in the year. There is literally no way this won't be nominated next year, but I wonder if that will hurt his chances, since the hype will have died down by then. I couldn't give half a poo poo about the Grammy's, especially one where Eminem's soulless, ball-less, effortless piece of steaming poo poo album can be taken seriously and nominated for any sort of critical acclaim.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 06:56 |
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Ah didn't realize the grammy's had a release cut-off or didn't get advanced copies. I really can't stop listening to Lost In the World. This song is loving amazing I'm not even sure if I'm getting the message right but I definitely feel something when I listen to it.
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KidDynamite posted:Ah didn't realize the grammy's had a release cut-off or didn't get advanced copies. You too? There is something deeply human and bittersweet about it. I can't get over it.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 08:31 |
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Superchunk posted:He released it too late in the year. There is literally no way this won't be nominated next year, but I wonder if that will hurt his chances, since the hype will have died down by then. Honestly, I'm more appalled that Katy Perry's second album was nominated, considering the middling reviews it received (I think Recovery fared better, despite Pitchfork's scathing review). I guess we know who's not winning this one.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 09:12 |
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Ye said there are no similies on this album, no hashtag rap. He didn't stop Rae from saying "live as a red jag" though.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 09:49 |
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no i was responding to the idea that "we," which I took to mean "we as a culture" ask entertainers to be humble. I gave the reasoning behind why we ask entertainers to, say, be more humble than Kanye west, although I don't think we actually ask much of our entertainers and give them a whole lot. I don't hold that against Kanye though, just his imaginary martyr complex that gets real loving old. Also, the best line/delivery on the album is, "How 'ye doin? I'm surviving." He sounds like a Seinfeld monologue there.
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# ? Dec 2, 2010 16:17 |
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Parade Maker posted:Gorgeous has slowly grown on me. This is probably my favorate song. Im a sucker for subtle changes to beat structures, and while its much more that subtle, I absolutely love the changes that take place going in to Rae's verse. Outstanding.
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I like Rae's verse, but you can tell its the one that he wouldn't/couldn't coach him or make him redo it a million times. Cause, well, its the chef. Also I liked Eminem's album and I think it deserves the grammy at least.
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