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Super Ninja Fish posted:Yeah, this is probably the best heel vs heel match that was ever done. Owen/Bulldog for the European title. They were tagging and managed by Cornette at the time.
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There was that Jericho/Edge match a while back where Jericho put his feet on the ropes and got caught, then Edge immediately did the same thing
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Dec 7, 2010 09:43
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Kurt Angle and Triple H had a heel vs. heel match at Unforgiven 2000 that was both a great match and one of the biggest wasted opportunities ever.
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Dec 7, 2010 10:12
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This wasn't a heel vs heel match, but during the events ROH held for the filming of The Wrestler there was a Kevin Steen vs Davey Richards match. Steen was a face going into this, but if you've seen Steen as a face, he basically wrestles as a heel except the crowd cheers him and he makes the comeback. The match was them ball shotting each other, talking poo poo and doing heel antics. It was immensely entertaining.
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Has a First Blood match ever been botched horribly and the ending ruined? Like, has the guy who was supposed to lose ever gotten a nosebleed or whatever? While I'm at it, what are some terrible/hilarious examples of gimmick matches ending terribly because of something loving up?
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Dec 7, 2010 11:22
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nationalista posted:Has a First Blood match ever been botched horribly and the ending ruined? Like, has the guy who was supposed to lose ever gotten a nosebleed or whatever? Hogan/Flair like two pages ago
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haha oh poo poo. Never mind 
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Web Jew.0 posted:Hogan/Flair like two pages ago Now I've only seen the event and not the stuff afterwards, but wasn't that more WCW not understanding how to book a match instead of a botch? Like, Ric talking to little naitch charles robinson before the match telling him not to stop the match because of a tiny cut, then the interferance by Arn Anderson (giving Flair a tire iron he used to knock out hulk, so that he could figure four pin him). Stupid, but it's like when Piper won a match that he wasn't part of because he checked on somebody's health, not a botch, just loving WCW.
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Dec 7, 2010 12:43
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Wasn't there an Austin WWE match where somebody started bleeding unintentionally?
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Dec 7, 2010 12:57
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Hockles posted:Wasn't there an Austin WWE match where somebody started bleeding unintentionally? Austin/Kane. I think Austin got poked by a thumbtack left over from the UT/Mankind Cell match, but the ref decided he wasn't bleeding adequately and let the match continue.
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Dec 7, 2010 13:48
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Didn't TNA have an Ultimate X match where the X fell down? And a contract on a ple match where the contract fell off the clipboard but the apparently getting the clipboard won the match rather than the actual, you know, contract.
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reality_groove posted:Didn't TNA have an Ultimate X match where the X fell down? And a contract on a ple match where the contract fell off the clipboard but the apparently getting the clipboard won the match rather than the actual, you know, contract. lovely youtube video of the X falling down here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvFa3T4s5f4
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Dec 7, 2010 14:50
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The video doesn't even show the best part. It falls a second time, and Petey Williams loving catches it, so the ref just calls the match. I'm assuming he was supposed to win, but it is TNA. They changed the way the X was attached to the structure after that.
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Dec 7, 2010 15:42
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nationalista posted:Has a First Blood match ever been botched horribly and the ending ruined? Like, has the guy who was supposed to lose ever gotten a nosebleed or whatever? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gy4c3dboP0
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Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:The video doesn't even show the best part. It falls a second time, and Petey Williams loving catches it, so the ref just calls the match. I'm assuming he was supposed to win, but it is TNA. I think they did a rematch the next impact.
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Dec 7, 2010 17:58
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nationalista posted:While I'm at it, what are some terrible/hilarious examples of gimmick matches ending terribly because of something loving up? The "catch-as-catch-can" match between Kidman and Malenko had rules such where if you went out of the ring you lost the match. Malenko proceeded to do his usual "roll out of the ring, regroup" spot, and was promptly DQ'd. This was Malenko's last match in WCW.
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Dec 7, 2010 20:26
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Just noticed "The Best of Seasons 1 and 2" of RAW at Amazon.com Did the WWE ever plan on releasing entire seasons of RAW or Smackdown or even Saturday Night Main Event? It seems like a goldmine for the box-set, tv-collecting fans.
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Dec 7, 2010 21:15
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ChikoDemono posted:Just noticed "The Best of Seasons 1 and 2" of RAW at Amazon.com Did the WWE ever plan on releasing entire seasons of RAW or Smackdown or even Saturday Night Main Event? It seems like a goldmine for the box-set, tv-collecting fans. Don't really get why people think they would do this when this would constitute 90+ hours of television. This sets aside that 75% of it would be terrible/filler. I mean Beat The Clock night is bad enough when it's live.
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Dec 7, 2010 21:22
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Don't really get why people think they would do this when this would constitute 90+ hours of television. This sets aside that 75% of it would be terrible/filler. The first several seasons would be less than 40 hours, which would be a 10+ DVD set. Not impossible, but still very unlikely.
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Dec 7, 2010 21:47
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While it wasn't a botch (kinda), I did enjoy the "get the contract hanging above the ring for a title shot" match on ECW where Sabu, after getting the contract, proceeded to eat it, perhaps in order to absorb it's number one contendership powers.
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Dec 7, 2010 21:54
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Jerusalem posted:While it wasn't a botch (kinda), I did enjoy the "get the contract hanging above the ring for a title shot" match on ECW where Sabu, after getting the contract, proceeded to eat it, perhaps in order to absorb it's number one contendership powers.
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Dec 7, 2010 23:33
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Jerusalem posted:While it wasn't a botch (kinda), I did enjoy the "get the contract hanging above the ring for a title shot" match on ECW where Sabu, after getting the contract, proceeded to eat it, perhaps in order to absorb it's number one contendership powers. No, no, no Sabu is the botch.
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Dec 7, 2010 23:49
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El Duke posted:The "catch-as-catch-can" match between Kidman and Malenko had rules such where if you went out of the ring you lost the match. Malenko proceeded to do his usual "roll out of the ring, regroup" spot, and was promptly DQ'd. This was Malenko's last match in WCW. It's important to note it was his last match because he quit, not because he was fired. They wanted to keep him despite the massive botch.
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Dec 8, 2010 04:28
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WeaselWeaz posted:It's important to note it was his last match because he quit, not because he was fired. They wanted to keep him despite the massive botch. Yeah, I didn't mean to imply it resulted in him being fired. Just that his last moment in WCW was a ridiculous match stipulation that I doubt even the two involved really had been completely briefed on. I just have a good feeling that Malenko confirmed he'd made the right decision at that point.
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Dec 8, 2010 05:55
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So you know how when one guy tags in his partner and the ref starts counting when they are both in the ring? Has anyone ever lost a match because they refused to go on to the apron?
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Dec 8, 2010 06:02
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servo106 posted:So you know how when one guy tags in his partner and the ref starts counting when they are both in the ring? Has anyone ever lost a match because they refused to go on to the apron? Elijah Burke and Monty Brown in ECW. This was during the time WWE told their refs to call matches like a shoot.
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Dec 8, 2010 06:13
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ADRIEN GRODYS FIFE posted:Elijah Burke and Monty Brown in ECW. This was during the time WWE told their refs to call matches like a shoot. I kinda miss that period. I like when wrestlers obey the rules. 
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Dec 8, 2010 06:16
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servo106 posted:So you know how when one guy tags in his partner and the ref starts counting when they are both in the ring? Has anyone ever lost a match because they refused to go on to the apron? There have been a few Survivor Series matches where drat near entire teams got DQ'd for that.
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The famous one was Survivor Series 91, where Ric Flair got backdropped over the top rope in a melee and ended up being the sole survivor because everyone still inside the ring was DQ'd for failure to adhere to the tag rules.
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Or Survivor Series '94 with HBK's team.
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Has there ever been an "evil twin" gimmick in wrestling? I know the Bellas did something along those lines on NXT, but I'm talking more...meaningful. If you could find identical twins who were both into wrestling, I could see some interesting scenarios developing. Evil twin weakens good twin's friendships by pretending to be him, evil twin ties up good twin in the back and takes a pin for him, costing him the title, etc.
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Dec 8, 2010 12:31
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Has there ever been an "evil twin" gimmick in wrestling? I know the Bellas did something along those lines on NXT, but I'm talking more...meaningful. If you could find identical twins who were both into wrestling, I could see some interesting scenarios developing. Evil twin weakens good twin's friendships by pretending to be him, evil twin ties up good twin in the back and takes a pin for him, costing him the title, etc. Hebner switch for Andre's Title Win.
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Dec 8, 2010 12:57
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Has there ever been an "evil twin" gimmick in wrestling? I know the Bellas did something along those lines on NXT, but I'm talking more...meaningful. If you could find identical twins who were both into wrestling, I could see some interesting scenarios developing. Evil twin weakens good twin's friendships by pretending to be him, evil twin ties up good twin in the back and takes a pin for him, costing him the title, etc. Doink had this gimmick sort of but it certainly wasn't meaningful
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Dec 8, 2010 14:06
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Has there ever been an "evil twin" gimmick in wrestling? I know the Bellas did something along those lines on NXT, but I'm talking more...meaningful. If you could find identical twins who were both into wrestling, I could see some interesting scenarios developing. Evil twin weakens good twin's friendships by pretending to be him, evil twin ties up good twin in the back and takes a pin for him, costing him the title, etc. There was the fake nWo Sting, and the fake Kane.
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Dec 8, 2010 14:28
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I mean Beat The Clock night is bad enough when it's live. Beat the Clock is fantastic for the simple fact that pure wrestling fans love it when the whole concept is to slowly give you less and less wrestling and see who can job the other guy out the fastest.
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Dec 8, 2010 15:23
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Lone Rogue posted:Beat the Clock is fantastic for the simple fact that pure wrestling fans love it when the whole concept is to slowly give you less and less wrestling and see who can job the other guy out the fastest.
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Dec 8, 2010 15:58
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Endorph posted:I like Beat the Clock just because it gives us things like Daniel Bryan nearly making Batista tap. I think it's fun once in a blue moon, it's just hilarious that it intentionally gives people more squashes and less wrestling and we love it. The greatest moment in a Beat the Clock was sadly Carlito preventing (was it Masters?) from getting a good time because he straight up delayed as much as he loving could to cost him the match.
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Dec 8, 2010 16:15
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Has there ever been a beat the clock series where one of the "non qualifiers" (the people who are just there to lose) won WITH the fastest time? I think that could play out into a decent story for a snubbed wrestler who thinks he should be in the match since he, in fact, had the best time.
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Dec 8, 2010 16:19
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Benign posted:Has there ever been a beat the clock series where one of the "non qualifiers" (the people who are just there to lose) won WITH the fastest time? I always thought that happened with Evan Bourne. Might be thinking wrong. They didn't let him sub in.
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Hinoarashi posted:Didn't Jericho beat The Rock for the WCW title via Rock Bottom on a chair. Minidust fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Dec 8, 2010 |
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