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Most are worse. Although The Marine 2 is better. And by that I mean 12 Rounds, not the Marine 2. The Marine 2 is much worse. But 12 Rounds is actually pretty good despite basically being a sequel to the Marine.
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El Axo Grande posted:No, because, if anything, pushing a year Rookie into the title scene and having the top babyface work as a heel-by-proxy for two months is pretty revolutionary booking Yes a rookie in the title scene certainly is a truly revolutionary idea. That certainly never happenned to Sheamus, Kozlov, Lashley, Kenendy, Khali, Cena, Lesnar, Angle, the Big Show, Goldberg, Ken Shamrock... Web Jew.0 fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Dec 9, 2010 |
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jeffersonlives posted:Are all of the WWE movies as bad as The Marine? I'm proud (read: not proud) to say I own Marine, See No Evil, and The Condemned. Marine was terrible, haven't even watched The Condemned, but See No Evil was a fun popcorn horror movie since Kane was built for the role and characters are so unlikable you just cheer for them to be killed.
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What about Legendary? It seems mildly interesting.
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MrBling posted:What about Legendary? It seems mildly interesting. My wife and her female friend both really liked Legendary. But they also are in love with Cena.
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That and Knucklehead are the two WWE films I'm thinking about actually watching since they're available on my cable VOD service thing.
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Schools over for the semester and I do not work today so if I had Knucklehead on my NetFlix, I'd watch it since Big Show is just naturally a goofy funny dude. His personality really comes across in interviews when the WWE isn't pushing him as a mean giant bully. I vote Knucklehead.
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Quarex posted:Oh, I have a question that does not deserve its own thread: What exactly was the process that occurred taking Randy Orton from "one of the reasons I stopped watching wrestling because he was so awful" to "apparently hugely popular even amongst the Internet wrestling crowd?" I know this kind of thing has happened before, as when The Rock went from crappy annoying man to the biggest thing around, but I have a hard time understanding even now what makes him good other than his admittedly quite compelling sinister-mat-pound-and-stare. For me it was basically that he gave no gently caress about the other person in the ring. He turned into Stone Cold 2.0 in that, you knew he was going to RKO the person talking to him, you knew he was going to do it but when he did it you were still giddy about it. That and they built him up to be a pretty big badass, where even Nexus didn't want to get on his bad side. Unfortunately, that passed pretty quick, and then he was hugging Cena.
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Burrito posted:For me it was basically that he gave no gently caress about the other person in the ring. He turned into Stone Cold 2.0 in that, you knew he was going to RKO the person talking to him, you knew he was going to do it but when he did it you were still giddy about it. That and they built him up to be a pretty big badass, where even Nexus didn't want to get on his bad side. Unfortunately, that passed pretty quick, and then he was hugging Cena. That and him being a face means he doesn't put on as many five minute chin locks.
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jeffersonlives posted:But claiming the Nexus is a revolutionary concept when it's every invasion angle ever, complete with the usual WWE tropes is nonsense. Six months later they're just another mid-card heel stable led by a guy a notch below the tip-top guys.  " is pretty nonsensical. It's like saying "this guy is wearing black tights, like we haven't seen that before."
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Especially since WWE has cut back on all the stables lately, enough so that I remember a year ago everyone clamoring for them to bring them back. When's the last time they had a real one? S.E.S maybe? That was pretty short lived though. Before that, Evolution?
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It depends on your definition of stable. I think calling 3 guys like Legacy or S.E.S. a stable is pushing it, personally.
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Wojtek posted:Saying "oh boy, another stable Plus its an invasion stable made up off legitimately new faces. Not people from another company, not established stars. It was literally a bunch of guys most RAW fans never saw showing up without warning and causing some serious poo poo.
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jeffersonlives posted:Are all of the WWE movies as bad as The Marine? Try watching The Condemned. I actually enjoyed the premise (despite using some plot elements from Battle Royale), and it wasn't THAT bad.
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^ I legit enjoyed watching the Condemned. It's the kind of movie you have to take at face value.El Axo Grande posted:Plus its an invasion stable made up off legitimately new faces. Not people from another company, not established stars. It was literally a bunch of guys most RAW fans never saw showing up without warning and causing some serious poo poo.
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Why does no one use the Steamroller anymore? BRING BACK THE STEAMROLLER! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR9RH1sORmU <- A good Steamroller
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projecthalaxy posted:Why does no one use the Steamroller anymore? Done right, it's a really effective, visually impressive finish. The problem is that it's difficult to do right (impossible to do on someone bigger than, say, Cena), very dangerous to screw up, and fairly convoluted to get into position for. For a guy who has multiple ways to finish people, it would be a nice move to have in his arsenal, but it shouldn't be the main one. Maybe Orton can pick it up when he's done with the Angle Slam.
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projecthalaxy posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR9RH1sORmU <- A good Steamroller http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVGo38uCj2s A better one.
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Burrito posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVGo38uCj2s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24n77GgRtrw best one
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Wojtek posted:^ I legit enjoyed watching the Condemned. It's the kind of movie you have to take at face value. When someone is outright calling an invasion angle "revolutionary," why not go to the other extreme? The Nexus angle started out great and quickly went to complete poo poo. I know everyone wears WWE is Great Goggles here, but I don't know how you can't see it. They consistently lose. Barrett has lost all of his title matches. Their only title reign was a result of John Cena squashing the competition by himself. They're humiliated by Cena every week. Maybe the main event scenes on both shows wouldn't be so bad if WWE hadn't been loving with the development of their prospects for the past 5 years because AW CANT LET EM GET DER HEADS BIG Nut Bunnies fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Dec 9, 2010 |
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El Axo Grande posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24n77GgRtrw  Never Forget
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Captain Charisma posted:When someone is outright calling an invasion angle "revolutionary," why not go to the other extreme? Boiling it down to "another invasion angle..." is stupid. Everything can be broken down to basic elements like this.
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^Word^Captain Charisma posted:When someone is outright calling an invasion angle "revolutionary," why not go to the other extreme? By that logic Austin vs. McMahon was just another lone face against powerful heel angle.
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Wojtek posted:Nexus was revolutionary: an entire stable of new talent with zero support from established stars. the spirit squad.
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ADRIEN GRODYS FIFE posted:the spirit squad. Truly a feared force that altered the course of their brand's every storyline for months
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El Axo Grande posted:Truly a feared force that altered the course of their brand's every storyline for months they were a hell of a lot more effective than nexus.
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ADRIEN GRODYS FIFE posted:they were a hell of a lot more effective than nexus. Now Grody I cannot help but think you are being a little hyperbolic 
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Wrestling has such a long and enormous history thanks to the territories that pretty much no idea short of a guy shooting his opponent in the dick to win a match has been done. And this isn't even something that you have to dig throughout the annals of history to find an invalidating example. A loving stable comprised of rookies. Wow, what a REVOLUTION. Not to mention they had weeks of exposure on national TV so your whole point of "THEY WENT IN COLD" is severely lessened. What a joke.
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El Axo Grande posted:Now Grody I cannot help but think you are being a little hyperbolic Spirit Squad put HBK out for a while, had lengthy tag title run where they actually successfully defended their titles on multiple occasions, and actually wrecked midcarders poo poo. Nexus walks around wearin shirts with letters on em and run away scared from a loud whiter version of marky mark. Captain Charisma posted:
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Captain Charisma posted:Not to mention they had weeks of exposure on national TV so your whole point of "THEY WENT IN COLD" is severely lessened. What a joke. So either NXT was a major ratings success or the Nexus went in cold. You cannot have your smark cake and eat it too.
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Part of the point of Nexus was that they were put in terrible competitions and not taken seriously. They weren't stars by any means. Don't worry CC. Nothing you like will ever happen, validating your points.
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What is everyone' MUST WATCH PPV during the year? For me, I love watching the Royal Rumble. Trying to follow online just doesn't have the same fun factor. I don't think there's another wrestling event that's more fun to watch with friends.
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ADRIEN GRODYS FIFE posted:Spirit Squad put HBK out for a while, had lengthy tag title run where they actually successfully defended their titles on multiple occasions, and actually wrecked midcarders poo poo. I too remember when Spirit Squad or its members main evented five straight PPVs
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El Axo Grande posted:I too remember when Spirit Squad or its members main evented five straight PPVs
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El Axo Grande posted:I too remember when Spirit Squad or its members main evented five straight PPVs
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ADRIEN GRODYS FIFE posted:nexus and spirit squad both main evented one ppv. wade barrett has been in the main events of several but was unsuccessful in nearly all of them and made to look like a total chump every time. nWo was also a bunch of midcarders who never won working for one or two big name guys. When were Scotty Riggs or Vincent ever engaging in classic matches?
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so who was the "Barret" of the Spirit Squad? Did anyone in the Spirit Squad even have mic time beyond the group intro?
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NXT season one and The Nexus have given us a debut moment that none of us are likely to ever forget, a leader that is one of the most incredible talkers and promo guys in the history of the WWE in his first year, two guys that became a tag team that were way better than they had any right to be and one of the best teams in a long time, John Cena defending Barrett through an entire battle royal, Barrett making Cena his bitch and classic dickhead promo moments like forcing him to fetch a glass of water, asking him if he'd wash his back and 'you cant see me', a Randy Orton beatdown that ended in The Miz being World Champion, Daniel Bryan feuding with The Miz, Bizarro John Cena, Skip Sheffield, and some of the least offensive WWE merchandise in years. I think NXT and The Nexus were a huge success as far as breathing some life into a period of WWE that was getting fairly stale.
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El Axo Grande posted:nWo was also a bunch of midcarders who never won working for one or two big name guys. see that doesnt work because nwo still had the main eventers who wore the nwo brand name. barrett is one guy. nash hall luger hennig sting hogan savage are not one guy.
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ADRIEN GRODYS FIFE posted:see that doesnt work because nwo still had the main eventers who wore the nwo brand name. barrett is one guy. nash hall luger hennig sting hogan savage are not one guy. Hall, Henning, and Luger were never main event. Savage was main event in name only. Nash only went main event after going Wolfpac. Sting was only part of the Wolfpac, which wasn't really the nWo.
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