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Epi Lepi posted:I've got .11s on my Jazzmaster I think, and .09s or .10s on my acoustic 12 string and those are my mains at the moment, the rest of my guitars aren't up at school with me. I just meant that I can go longer if I'm playing, say, I Wanna be Sedated instead of Chinese Rocks. Do you wrap your thumb over the top of the neck (or almost) near the nut but not further down? Might sound like a weird question but I have done (do) this so I thought it might be relevant. It could also be frequency--I certainly get more tired on things that are fingered more quickly (heh, pun not intended) or have more chord changes regardless of barre or otherwise. You'll figure it out, just trying to help 
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Epi Lepi posted:I would appreciate this too, this whole discussion made me pop in The Ramones Road to Ruin album and I was able to figure out the first song myself which made me feel cool, but I couldn't figure out the next one which made me feel less cool... On a similar note, I'm willing to put money on the first song on Leave Home having an A and a D e: Called it. D A G. This isn't really fair though, that's every pop-punk song ever written pretty much e2: Guitar Pro owns. It's nice just having it written out in regular notation and tabs, and the midi is nice. Plus the fact that someone actually labelled the separate tracks with which dude plays them is awesome BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Dec 5, 2010 |
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Dickeye posted:On a similar note, I'm willing to put money on the first song on Leave Home having an A and a D I V IV  You'll probably benefit from learning your fretboard completely, where every note is and so on. There's a good trainer here, start with a few frets and gradually extend that until you're testing yourself on the entire fretboard: http://www.musictheory.net/exercises (Fretboard Identification) It'll help a lot because if you're anything like me, you learn how to play stuff by position - start at this fret, add the note to frets higher on the next string, and so on. You end up learning to play things from memory, without knowing what the actual notes are that you're playing. If you learn where notes are and start to pay attention to which ones you're playing, music theory will all start to fall into place and you'll be able to do way more
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Here's a question, for people who know how to use Guitar Pro: How do I have more than one chord in a bar? I'm trying to tab out a song to see if the tab I found is right, but I can't figure out how to put in a bunch of eighth notes e: Now I've got it. WHat the gently caress e2: How do I change the tempo of this bitch? It's the right chords, but it's way too slow BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Dec 5, 2010 |
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Dec 5, 2010 19:58
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I IV V is probably the most important thing you could ever learn, especially if you want to play the Ramones. Blitzkrieg Bop was the first song I ever learned. is there a thread to ask questions on acoustic guitars or do I just pick a random guitar thread and throw it in one?
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This is kinda 'the' guitar thread so go for it
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I am looking at getting an acoustic and have it down to 2 models. http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Godin-5th-Avenue-Archtop-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=518494 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gretsch-Guitars-G100-Synchromatic-Archtop-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=517748 The Gretsch is nice and for an extra $50 could be electric as well and has the whole "name" brand going for it The Godin is cheaper and to me they both play the same and feel the same just wondering if anyone had any opinions or advice on either model.
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SaucyPants posted:I IV V is probably the most important thing you could ever learn, especially if you want to play the Ramones. Blitzkrieg Bop was the first song I ever learned. My first was The KKK Took My Baby Away, because it has a rest every so often and it gave me time to switch chords I've actually been learning Teenage Bottlerocket songs lately, which are similar but actually a bit easier. They're faster, but the rhythm part is always simple as hell, and they're all very similar, to the point where the joke at practice is to play a D chord a million times and claim you wrote a new TBR song.
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ChiliMac posted:Mustang II review
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I thought I would add for anyone who wants to work on their ears check out Song Surgeon. I am using the demo version and its much better than audacity for slowing down and looping songs to help you pick out the note or chord.
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baka kaba posted:What I'd try is tuning it up, making sure to bend each string at the 1st or 2nd fret to make sure the string isn't caught in the nut - if it's catching there'll be a tension difference, and bending could even it out and change the pitch. Tune, bend, tune, bend until the string is stable. I tried what you suggested and it seemed fine. The strings weren't catching. I'm not sure how old these strings are. I think I'll go get some new ones tomorrow and let them stretch for a while. If it doesn't get better, I'll just return the guitar. Hopefully, that's not the case as I really like it.
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unpurposed posted:I tried what you suggested and it seemed fine. The strings weren't catching. how long have you had the guitar for? how often do you play? and didn't they set up and put new strings on the guitar when you bought it?
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SaucyPants posted:how long have you had the guitar for? how often do you play? and didn't they set up and put new strings on the guitar when you bought it? For a couple of days now. I tried stretching the strings out and it's seemed to help. I bought the guitar but didn't get it set up, which I'm planning on getting it set up tomorrow at a local shop. Hopefully this'll get rid of some of the rattle I've experienced (minor, but indicative of that it's not set up correctly). Sorry if I'm coming off really inexperienced, but that's because I am.
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unpurposed posted:For a couple of days now. I tried stretching the strings out and it's seemed to help. I bought the guitar but didn't get it set up, which I'm planning on getting it set up tomorrow at a local shop. Hopefully this'll get rid of some of the rattle I've experienced (minor, but indicative of that it's not set up correctly). I am far from an expert. The artcore's are nice guitars and if you really like it give it a bit of time. I know on my Sheraton II the G string is the most likely string to go out of tune but it isn't a common occurrence. Just give it a chance.
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unpurposed posted:I tried what you suggested and it seemed fine. The strings weren't catching. It's not necessarily something you can feel (if it's -really- catching your nut has problems!) but if you get the strings in tune and bending doesn't detune them anymore, you're good. It's how I always tune mine, it definitely helps. If you haven't put new strings on there that's a big deal too, especially if it was the floor model being handled by who knows how many people for however long it's been there. You can tell if they're new, they'll be very clean and shiny and have a really metallic twang to them. I really doubt the store would have put new ones on for you, unless you paid for it. EDIT just noticed you said you're getting it set up so that means new strings anyway!
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G strings are nothing but trouble. They're always the first string to detune. My guitar's G string sustains far far less than any other string on any other note, as well. lol
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Tarnien posted:No -- I assumed it was something that just came with having played for a while. What would you recommend in regards to practicing ear training? Well, your ears certainly can get better after you've been playing for a while, but it's not guaranteed. There are plenty of people who can play things by ear the first time they pick up an instrument, and there are people who can barely hum a tune after playing for 20 years. I think most musicians really need to really focus on it in order to become proficient at it. Some thoughts: - Try to learn as many things by ear as you can. This doesn't mean you never look at written music, but only go to it if you've really tried to play it by ear and it's simply beyond your reach. A program that lets you slow down the music, like Audacity, Transcribe! or The Amazing Slow Downer, can be a big help. This will not be easy. You will get frustrated, you will feel stupid and inadequate, you'll wonder if you'll ever "get it." Hang in there. - Sing lots of things. Sing the guitar parts to songs before you even pick up the instrument. For single-line stuff, this won't present a huge challenge. For chords, it's a little trickier. First, sing the bottom notes to every chord in the progression, one following the other. Then do the same for the top notes, and then the middle notes. - Separately, work on developing your sense of relative pitch. The best way to do this would be to get a teacher. If your teacher doesn't know how to work on ear training, that's a pretty good sign that it's time to get a new teacher. If that's not an option, I would recommend Bruce Arnold's series of ear training books. They are very thorough and well-put together. Go to https://www.muse-eek.com and click the "Digital Files, Books, MP3s and PDFs" button on the left. Scroll down until you find the link for "Ear Training One Note Complete with 3 CDs of MP3's." This is the book that he recommends everyone start on. You can get the book and CDs all together, but you really only need the CDs. The books simply explain his teaching philosophy and how to use the CDs. But if you're already sold on the methodology, and you know how to use the CDs, they're not essential. Just load the CDs on an MP3 player, put them on shuffle, and listen to them throughout the day. I used to listen to them as I was walking between classes. If you do it consistently, you'll begin to notice a real difference.
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See, I've got the relative pitch thing down. It's knowing what that first chord is that kills me, because now that I get the I-IV-V and I-V-IV thing (depending on the song!) it's even easier to put it together if I could figure out that first loving chord
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So I've been taking lessons for a couple weeks and in addition to standard picking and chords and scales, we've been doing some very very basic blues stuff. I'm in my office trying to impress my toddler by playing Row Row Row Your Boat and Mary Had A Little Lamb and failing miserably. I failed and she ran out. So I start doing the little blues riff/chords/whatever they are called, and it's just EB EB EC# EB EB EB EC# EB EB EB EC# EB ED EB EC# EB AE AE AF# AE AE AE AF# AE AE AE AF# AE AG AE AF# AE And my toddler runs back in and starts dancing. I dunno if I've ever been so  in my entire life.
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Dickeye posted:See, I've got the relative pitch thing down. It's knowing what that first chord is that kills me, because now that I get the I-IV-V and I-V-IV thing (depending on the song!) it's even easier to put it together if I could figure out that first loving chord Not every song, punk or otherwise, has a I IV V or I V IV. And if you really had relative pitch down, it would be easy to find the first chord. You could play any random chord or note and, using your random guess as a reference pitch, hear what the first chord is.
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Porn Thread posted:Not every song, punk or otherwise, has a I IV V or I V IV. Well, herp my derp (Also the majority of what I'm working on now is I IV V or I V IV, which is why I said it) e: While I wrote this post I actually figured out a song that I've been moaning about for a couple weeks now. poo poo yeah.
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if I am having a hard time with that first chord or note I run it through Song Surgeon or Audacity or my Tascam and just loop that chord or note over and over running up the fretboard a half step at a time until I find it. Once you find that first note its a lot easier to find the other chords if you know your scales.
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To continue the trend of me posting and sounding like a 'tard: Guitar Pro has basically saved my life because the few times that I know the chords and just need to work out where they go I can write it out and listen to it and also because gently caress yeah actual notation, I can read that!
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what is this guitar pro and why should I use it?
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Program that lets you tab out songs, with multiple instrument tracks, and play them back with a midi so you can see if you've got it right It's not really that amazing, but I love it anyway. Tabbed out a Teen Idols song to make sure I was doing it right and I was.
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crm posted:what is this guitar pro and why should I use it? Music notation program. I found it to be more of hindrance to my ear training. I would try and figure stuff out by using trial and error in guitar pro and wasn't getting anywhere. I ditched that and instead worked on listening to rhythms and pitches and vocalising them. Then matching my playing to my voice.
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Different strokes I guess. I know the chords to a song, and I'm working on writing it out in GP now. I'm getting there slowly but surely
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http://tuxguitar.herac.com.ar/ Tuxguitar is a free Guitar Pro alternative for Linux/Windows/Mac that can read and play Guitar Pro files.
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Dickeye posted:See, I've got the relative pitch thing down. It's knowing what that first chord is that kills me, because now that I get the I-IV-V and I-V-IV thing (depending on the song!) it's even easier to put it together if I could figure out that first loving chord You can't figure it out just by listening. To do that you'd need absolute pitch, which is widely regarded as impossible for an adult to learn (don't let that get you down though, absolute pitch isn't required to be a good musician and can even be a hindrance sometimes). As has been pointed out, you'll have to use a known reference pitch to find out what key the song is in.
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Tuxguitar and Guitar Pro, along with more or less every music program I've ever seen seem like they were designed to intentionally frustrate users with lovely, unintuitive UI design choices. I'm trying to recreate a simple song and it is almost impossible to get Guitar Pro to do what I want it to. Programs like this make me want to scream. Is there a god set of tutorials out there for either of these or am I going to have to suffer to figure out all of the little tricks to coax this thing into working?
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I played guitar for a few years when I was younger, but haven't played in about 12 years or so. I want to get back into it, but I can't find the instruction book my guitar teacher used when I was taking lessons. Can anyone recommened a good instruction book? I guess I'm basically looking at starting over, because I really can't remember much. I know how to read music, but not necessarily how to play every note. I'm also going to start looking for a replacement guitar and amp as I really hate the one I have now. I'm going to be buying second hand as there is a pretty good used music store in town, but if I was going to buy from someone else is there anything specifically to look for when buying a used guitar? I know the neck has to be straight, but is there anything else? Someone locally is selling a Regal Resonator for about $350 that I am seriously considering picking up simply because I love the sound of them and I haven't seen any others for sale. When looking for a used acoustic guitar, are there different things to check out before you buy it? Koth fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Dec 9, 2010 |
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Zakalwe posted:Dan Auerbach uses a Maestro MFZ-1 fuzz box He uses a shitload of different fuzzes, like the EarthQuaker Devices Hoof (Big Muff with Ge trannies and LEDs in the two clipping stages). Most Black Keys stuff sounds like a muff.
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Different topic--do those of you who play with a lot of distortion use a noise gate? If not, what is the best direction to minimize string noise from moving around the neck? Edit: the response "Learn how to play" is perfectly reasonable. ChiliMac fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Dec 11, 2010 |
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So I put on new strings today. I asked for the guys recommendation and he gave me Ernie Ball Power Slinkys in 11's ( i just asked for whatever he recommended in 11's) Why do these strings sound awful? the old set were the lime coloured Ernie Ball's I didn't think it would be that big of a difference but its just awful.
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ChiliMac posted:Different topic--do those of you who play with a lot of distortion use a noise gate? If not, what is the best direction to minimize string noise from moving around the neck? I'm interested in this too, I've tried lifting my fingers properly when I move instead of letting them slide up the strings, which obviously helps with the squeaking but it feels more laboured. I don't know if that's good technique or if I'm making life hard for myself SaucyPants posted:So I put on new strings today. I asked for the guys recommendation and he gave me Ernie Ball Power Slinkys in 11's ( i just asked for whatever he recommended in 11's) Why do these strings sound awful? the old set were the lime coloured Ernie Ball's I didn't think it would be that big of a difference but its just awful. What's bad about them? The only real difference between strings should be the nuances of the tone. If they sound out of tune it could be your intonation, if you don't usually use 11's - the tension difference might mean you need to set your guitar up for them
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Coughing-up Tweed posted:He uses a shitload of different fuzzes, like the EarthQuaker Devices Hoof (Big Muff with Ge trannies and LEDs in the two clipping stages). Most Black Keys stuff sounds like a muff. Yeah, but for that stuff it was mostly the MFZ-1
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Porn Thread posted:Well, your ears certainly can get better after you've been playing for a while, but it's not guaranteed. There are plenty of people who can play things by ear the first time they pick up an instrument, and there are people who can barely hum a tune after playing for 20 years. I think most musicians really need to really focus on it in order to become proficient at it. Forgot to reply to this -- wanted to say thank you for the advice. I'm putting it to use right now. Hopefully will see some marked improvement! Edit to add a question: Is there any secret to identifying which notes in a chord are the 3rd, 5th, etc? For instance, if I'm playing G and want to quickly change it to a G7, is there any trick to going from G to G7, other than simply knowing how G7 is shaped (G7 is easy, but imagine more complicated chords)? Like if I were trying to form Dbm7 or something - if I start with what I know (D minor), is there a trick to quickly figuring out how to add the 7? Tarnien fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Dec 12, 2010 |
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There's definitely more than one way to do it, but since I had scales grilled into me as a child, I tend to think of it in that format. I'm sure other people with more training than myself (I haven't taken any courses past theory 2 in college, and I'm not in a position to continue, sadly) has more efficient ways, but it has always done the trick for me. So, for instance, D minor is D, E, F, G, A, B♭, C, D. So if you want the minor 7th in D, it'd be C. F is the minor third, A is the perfect fifth, and so on. And now I'll let someone who knows more than me reply. Tarnien posted:No I know how to figure out what the notes should be on paper - I'm saying in terms of finger arrangement. So if I know G is 320003 - from this, is there anyway to know G7 is 320001, without just knowing what G7 is? For instance "Oh, you want to make a major chord into a 7th? Just slide your highest pitch note down 2 frets!" or something similar (but obviously more complicated, I'd imagine). Whoops. Umm, in that case I really don't know. Most shapes I know I just learned through memorization, and in the case of barre chords, it's a matter of "determine root, find chord." I'll shut up now and let someone else answer you. Alakaiser fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Dec 13, 2010 |
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No I know how to figure out what the notes should be on paper - I'm saying in terms of finger arrangement. So if I know G is 320003 - from this, is there anyway to know G7 is 320001, without just knowing what G7 is? For instance "Oh, you want to make a major chord into a 7th? Just slide your highest pitch note down 2 frets!" or something similar (but obviously more complicated, I'd imagine).
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