Lawyer & Law School Megathread #12: Started Out Barrister, Ended Up Barista

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jtsold: Jul 6, 2004; dlostj

CaptainScraps posted:

I told my boss I was going to start looking for another job. :/

Shouldn't you start looking before you announce this fact?

# ? Dec 11, 2010 21:49

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# ? May 18, 2024 09:08

Stunt Rock: Jul 28, 2002; DEATH WISH AT 120 DECIBELS

CaptainScraps posted:

I told my boss I was going to start looking for another job. :/

Come be my MSJ bitch. You start today. Deadline is Monday. TIA.

# ? Dec 11, 2010 21:50

newberstein: Jul 17, 2005; really....that bad

So I just got home from the LSAT. I have a problem because I did really well on both logical reasoning sections, okay on the reading comprehensions section, amazing on one logic game section, but absolutely terrible on the other logic games section. Basically, I will have a 7-10 point swing in my raw score depending on which section is experimental (I obviously hope the LG section is experimental). Everyone I talked to after the test felt that the logic game I did poorly on was ridiculously hard as well. Is it typically the case that if one section is harder than usual it is the experimental section?

# ? Dec 11, 2010 23:38

Kirkzor: Jun 3, 2010

newberstein posted:

So I just got home from the LSAT. I have a problem because I did really well on both logical reasoning sections, okay on the reading comprehensions section, amazing on one logic game section, but absolutely terrible on the other logic games section. Basically, I will have a 7-10 point swing in my raw score depending on which section is experimental (I obviously hope the LG section is experimental). Everyone I talked to after the test felt that the logic game I did poorly on was ridiculously hard as well. Is it typically the case that if one section is harder than usual it is the experimental section?

Usually the "extremely difficult" section is the experimental one.

Usually.

# ? Dec 11, 2010 23:43

hypocrite lecteur: Aug 21, 2008; by Y Kant Ozma Post

newberstein posted:

So I just got home from the LSAT. I have a problem because I did really well on both logical reasoning sections, okay on the reading comprehensions section, amazing on one logic game section, but absolutely terrible on the other logic games section. Basically, I will have a 7-10 point swing in my raw score depending on which section is experimental (I obviously hope the LG section is experimental). Everyone I talked to after the test felt that the logic game I did poorly on was ridiculously hard as well. Is it typically the case that if one section is harder than usual it is the experimental section?

You don't really know how you did until you get your score back. Put it out of your head, you'll know for sure soon enough

# ? Dec 11, 2010 23:49

IrritationX: May 5, 2004; Bitch, what you don't know about me I can just about squeeze in the Grand fucking Canyon.

hypocrite lecteur posted:

You don't really know how you did until you get your score back. Put it out of your head, you'll know for sure soon enough

This. And there's still plenty of time to reconsider. And just walk away.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 00:09

srsly: Aug 1, 2003

newberstein posted:

So I just got home from the LSAT. I have a problem because I did really well on both logical reasoning sections, okay on the reading comprehensions section, amazing on one logic game section, but absolutely terrible on the other logic games section. Basically, I will have a 7-10 point swing in my raw score depending on which section is experimental (I obviously hope the LG section is experimental). Everyone I talked to after the test felt that the logic game I did poorly on was ridiculously hard as well. Is it typically the case that if one section is harder than usual it is the experimental section?

If everybody had the section it was likely not experimental.

But here you go: You had two logic game sections. Most likely, one was before the break (Sections 1-3). One was after the break (section 4 or 5). The one before the break was experimental, guaranteed. If you bombed the one after the break cancel your score. If you bombed the one before the break, you're all good.

The experimental section is always one of the first 3.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 00:54

GamingHyena: Jul 25, 2003; Devil's Advocate

CaptainScraps posted:

I told my boss I was going to start looking for another job. :/

Why on earth would you do this? "Hey boss, I am a disloyal employee who is looking to flee as soon as possible. Feel free to replace me at your earliest convenience regardless of whether or not I've found a new employer yet."

I had an interview last week and feel fairly confident I am going to get a new job in a few weeks. Do you think I've said anything about it to my boss? Hell no. He'll find out when I give my 2 weeks notice.

GamingHyena fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Dec 12, 2010

# ? Dec 12, 2010 01:46

BigHead: Jul 25, 2003; Huh?; Nap Ghost

My judge is picking next year's clerk (my replacement). He narrowed it down to two people and asked my advice because he only hires from our alma mater so hey maybe I know these kids.

One was someone I knew well, dual degree, super smart, etc. The other I no clue about, but when I called him he told me he was interested in International Human Rights Law. The judge and I cracked the gently caress up at that line, and we hired the other person.

Moral of the story: Don't tell prospective employers you're an international human rights panda.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 01:50

newberstein: Jul 17, 2005; really....that bad

mrtoodles posted:

If everybody had the section it was likely not experimental.

But here you go: You had two logic game sections. Most likely, one was before the break (Sections 1-3). One was after the break (section 4 or 5). The one before the break was experimental, guaranteed. If you bombed the one after the break cancel your score. If you bombed the one before the break, you're all good.

The experimental section is always one of the first 3.

Bombed the one after the break. No point to cancel my score though because the next LSAT is after the application deadline of most law schools. Might as well see if I can get in anywhere with my URM status and if not, retake it in a year :suicide:

# ? Dec 12, 2010 02:06

Schitzo: Mar 20, 2006; I can't hear it when you talk about John Druce

newberstein posted:

Bombed the one after the break. No point to cancel my score though because the next LSAT is after the application deadline of most law schools. Might as well see if I can get in anywhere with my URM status and if not, retake it in a year

Or, you know, not go.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 03:07

Mookie: Mar 22, 2005; I have to return some videotapes.

GamingHyena posted:

Why on earth would you do this? "Hey boss, I am a disloyal employee who is looking to flee as soon as possible. Feel free to replace me at your earliest convenience regardless of whether or not I've found a new employer yet."

I had an interview last week and feel fairly confident I am going to get a new job in a few weeks. Do you think I've said anything about it to my boss? Hell no. He'll find out when I give my 2 weeks notice.

THIS.

Especially if there's a possibility of getting a bonus (even if it is just burger king coupons) at the end of the year.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 03:09

Tetrix: Aug 24, 2002

GamingHyena posted:

Why on earth would you do this? "Hey boss, I am a disloyal employee who is looking to flee as soon as possible. Feel free to replace me at your earliest convenience regardless of whether or not I've found a new employer yet."

I had an interview last week and feel fairly confident I am going to get a new job in a few weeks. Do you think I've said anything about it to my boss? Hell no. He'll find out when I give my 2 weeks notice.

I've wondered about this in laterals. Didn't you have to give them as a reference?

# ? Dec 12, 2010 03:11

entris: Oct 22, 2008; by Y Kant Ozma Post

Mookie posted:

THIS.

Especially if there's a possibility of getting a bonus (even if it is just burger king coupons) at the end of the year.

How many coupons did Cravath do this year, anyway? Or did they finally make the switch to In-and-Out?

# ? Dec 12, 2010 03:14

Mookie: Mar 22, 2005; I have to return some videotapes.

entris posted:

How many coupons did Cravath do this year, anyway? Or did they finally make the switch to In-and-Out?

Depends on your year. First years got Burger King, while midlevels and senior associates got Denny's. They were mostly "buy one get one free" coupons, although I heard high performers also got "free drink with any entree" coupons.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 03:22

entris: Oct 22, 2008; by Y Kant Ozma Post

That makes sense.

I imagine that the rainmakers got the really valuable coupons to Taco Bell because rainmakers deserve the best.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 03:29

GamingHyena: Jul 25, 2003; Devil's Advocate

Tetrix posted:

I've wondered about this in laterals. Didn't you have to give them as a reference?

I would never apply to any place that required my boss to be a reference for obvious reasons.

I don't know how it works in the BIGLAW universe, but for this new job I just gave them a resume and a writing sample. My new potential employer knows the area of law I currently practice and is already familiar with my work as we've had some dealings in the past. In fact, they told me about the opening so I hope that's a good sign.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 03:36

Mookie: Mar 22, 2005; I have to return some videotapes.

GamingHyena posted:

I would never apply to any place that required my boss to be a reference for obvious reasons.

I don't know how it works in the BIGLAW universe, but for this new job I just gave them a resume and a writing sample. My new potential employer knows the area of law I currently practice and is already familiar with my work as we've had some dealings in the past. In fact, they told me about the opening so I hope that's a good sign.

In Biglaw, even for laterals, it is typically resume, transcript, and writing sample. Usually if you get far along in the interview process, where they start asking for information to clear conflicts, about potential portables, etc. they'll ask for three references, preferably clients. Typically they won't call them without asking first, but always be ready.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 03:46

Solomon Grundy: Feb 10, 2007; Born on a Monday

GamingHyena posted:

Why on earth would you do this? "Hey boss, I am a disloyal employee who is looking to flee as soon as possible. Feel free to replace me at your earliest convenience regardless of whether or not I've found a new employer yet."

I had an interview last week and feel fairly confident I am going to get a new job in a few weeks. Do you think I've said anything about it to my boss? Hell no. He'll find out when I give my 2 weeks notice.

"Don't quit what you got until you get what you want." What you did counts as quitting what you got. Bad idea.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 06:54

srsly: Aug 1, 2003

newberstein posted:

Bombed the one after the break. No point to cancel my score though because the next LSAT is after the application deadline of most law schools. Might as well see if I can get in anywhere with my URM status and if not, retake it in a year

This is insane. If you know you bombed an entire section you need to cancel. Yeah, you might get in somewhere with your URM status but not nearly the places you could with your URM status + a good LSAT score.

If you're likely gonna need to retake next year, go ahead and give yourself TWO shots to take it next year. You're already late in the admissions cycle.

If you're gonna go to law school despite all the warnings and naysayers, do it right. One of the things we SCREAM at people in this thread about is the mindset of people fresh out of school (or otherwise) that think it's the end of the world if they have to wait a year to go to law school.

Don't be a moron. You're young. Where you go to law school matters for the rest of your life. Not that 30 years from now anybody's gonna give a real poo poo about where you went, but where you are at 30 years from now will be very possibly determined by where you go.

Wait a year. Take again in June and October if need be. Don't be a moron.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 07:09

puchu: Sep 20, 2004; hiya~

I'm not a lawyer nor do I have any intention of ever being one but I was wondering what are the undeniable qualities of a great taco. Advice appreciated, thanks!

# ? Dec 12, 2010 07:50

remote control carnivore: May 7, 2009

The most important part of the taco is the tortilla. Hand made corn tortillas fresh off the comal are preferred. If your tortillas suck then it doesn't matter what you put in them. Crunchy shells are right out, unless you're some sort of Taco Bell loving scrub.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 08:42

G-Mawwwwwww: Jan 31, 2003; My LPth are Hot Garbage; Biscuit Hider

GamingHyena posted:

Why on earth would you do this? "Hey boss, I am a disloyal employee who is looking to flee as soon as possible. Feel free to replace me at your earliest convenience regardless of whether or not I've found a new employer yet."

I ran out of work. He has big cases and small cases. The other clerk works on small cases and just graduated. We don't have any more big cases. I wanted the boss to make phone calls on my behalf and he agreed to do so.

Stunt Rock posted:

Come be my MSJ bitch. You start today. Deadline is Monday. TIA.

If it's Texas law, give me $435 and I can have it to you Sunday night.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 10:12

Alaemon: Jan 4, 2009; Proctors are guardians of the sanctity and integrity of legal education, therefore they are responsible for the nourishment of the soul.

puchu posted:

I'm not a lawyer nor do I have any intention of ever being one but I was wondering what are the undeniable qualities of a great taco. Advice appreciated, thanks!

A high score on the TSAT is a must.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 10:13

Ainsley McTree: Feb 19, 2004

You can tell you're in the experimental section if they have you working with difficult ingredients like swordfish or charoset

# ? Dec 12, 2010 10:19

WhiskeyJuvenile: Feb 15, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo

I'm a patent examiner. I'm half-assedly applying to a law firm through a headhunter. Last night, I find out a friend of mine is a litigation support manager or something at the same firm; he told me to send him my resume.

What's the etiquette?

# ? Dec 12, 2010 14:54

Copernic: Sep 16, 2006; ...A Champion, who by mettle of his glowing personal charm alone, saved the universe...

Time for some daily job search advice from the CEO of BCG Attorney Search:

Harrison Barnes posted:

I watched a chilling story on CNN yesterday about a man who has started a business driving his small motorboat up and down a river outside of Shanghai, finding and picking up suicide victims.

He fishes the bodies out of the water (in various states of decomposition) and then calls the families and tries to negotiate the highest prices possible for the return of the bodies. Most of the suicides are people who jumped off bridges all around Shanghai.

Business is very good for this man. Based on the news story, he is fast becoming wealthy. The faster Shanghai grows, the more suicides there are, and the more money the man earns.

What I found interesting about this story was not that so many suicides were occurring. Instead, the interesting fact was that almost all the suicides were by people who had moved from small farming villages from all over China to Shanghai. Uneducated, without social connections, and with few skills, not everyone ends up fitting in and making it in the big city. Many of the people from farming villages cannot read and have never been to school. They do not �fit in� with the social mores of a sophisticated city like Shanghai. Social niceties and similar behavior that might be taken for granted elsewhere are not known to them.

Rather than returning to their former lives in their villages, the men end their lives believing that is better than the alternative.

The move from agricultural areas to cities has been occurring in cultures all over the world for hundreds of years. There is nothing remarkable about that. What is remarkable, though, is the fact that people who move from villages believe that city life is so much better and important than their own.

I do not know how many movies and television shows I have seen that explore the differences in social conventions between people from cities and the country. Shows like Wife Swap and Simple Life explore this. These shows are always good for a few laughs when social conventions are so closely compared � almost always at the expense of the person from the country.

An agricultural worker who moves to Shanghai, may face draconian working conditions. They may work in a factory 18 hours a day for very little pay. Many workers will just take what they can get. Many may not find jobs at all. Nevertheless, back in the village they came from the workers may not have enough to eat and face extreme poverty. At least in a menial factory job, this is not a threat.

On a social level, cities around the world always seem more glamorous than agricultural areas. In the United States, people from agricultural areas are called �hicks� and often looked down upon by people from cities. There are even �hierarchies� among cities. People from New York City almost universally think they are more sophisticated than people from Chicago, Houston, and so forth.

As economies (like China) start to grow, there is a mass migration to cities. Some are able to make it in the cities, and others are not.

A job with a corporation in a city will often result in a suppression of individualism.

* You may be expected to wear a suit and tie or a uniform.
* You are told when to work and when to quit.
* You are told what you are going to be paid.
* You are expected to fit in.

Your success will come to a large extent based on your ability to conform and be part of the group in whatever company or organization you are part of. Your success will come from connections, and who you know as well.

Native American Indians in the United States are a perfect example. Their culture for hundreds of years involved living off the land. As a group of people, their transition to cities and modern living has been difficult for them. Many remain on reservations and do not leave. Understanding the society around them and integrating has been a challenge. It has for many been an issue of fitting in with the dominant society that rapidly grew up around them.

A few years ago, I was in Fiji and noticed that most of the people working in the businesses and hotels were all Indian (from India). �Why no Fijians?� I asked several people.

The explanation I received was quite interesting. Apparently when the English and others first came to Fiji, they could not get the Fijians to work. For as long as the Fijians had been there, they had been able to live by picking up a coconut, catching a fish, and so forth.

The Fijian culture never learned to appreciate work and did not see the point of working 8+ hours a day when they already had everything they needed. Fijians, like American Indians to some extent, could not be domesticated and commoditized (i.e., made like everyone else). They kept their individuality. Indians were brought in from cities around India and they set out working right away.

I think that to some extent, the reason for the suicides and so forth in Shanghai is related to the fact that many of the people moving from the villages are simply unable to fit in with the different expectations of the city. They remain individuals who cannot conform to a different understanding of work and behavior in cities.

One of the largest messages of self-help gurus�and even the American consciousness�is of the idea that we can do anything alone. In fact, the idea of individualism is something that has been part of the American creed for some time now. James Dean made this idea famous in Rebel Without a Cause in the 1950s when he showed a shocking level of individualism for what was largely a conformist society at that time.

Through the 1960s and 1970s, the idea of American individualism came out even more. Drugs use and sexual promiscuity increased. Pop icons were respected and gained fame and power for stepping outside of the normal rules of society. Corporations became held in suspicion for suppressing creativity, enforcing social norms, and so forth.

By the 1990s, workplaces started adopting �casual Fridays�. Then, dress codes started being dropped at many employers altogether. Silicon Valley inserted itself into the dominant culture and people became revered for being creative and individualistic. The lone entrepreneur became celebrated. Even today we see people like Elon Musk and others who are portrayed as working alone, fighting the status quo (developing electric cars, launching rockets to compete with NASA).

Most people do not succeed alone, though. People succeed by being parts of groups and are supported by groups. The better the group you are in and the more support you have, the better off you will be. Many people who achieve great success often believe this is simply due to their ability; however, in most cases this is simply not true. Success comes in most cases from our relationships with others.

In our personal lives, we are defined by the success of our primary relationships with others:

* A successful relationship benefits us in numerous ways: We are happy, we identify ourselves by the relationship, and it helps us become positive and creative.
* A negative benefit works in a similar, but negative way: we feel angry, limited, suspicious, and afraid.

Think about the successful close relationships you have had and how the success of this relationship defined much of what went on with your life. Your fate and life will be affected in subtle ways by the dynamics of and quality of your relationships with other people.

Do you know people whose friends, lovers, and others seem to always be worse off due to their relationship with them? Do you know people whose friends, lovers, and others always seem to be better off due to their relationship with them? I do. I think our lives are completely defined by the quality of our social connections.

Having quality links and social connections with others are crucial for your happiness and success. People who do not have such links are often not happy.

The reason that so many people are plunging into the river in Shanghai�I think�is due to the quality of the social connections the people have when they move to the cities from villages. Where they once had lots of connections, they now have few to none. They have no social support. They are not appreciated for their accomplishments and what they have done. They are not respected members of the society in the city�where they might have been supported when they lived in the country.

The people who do not end up floating dead in rivers, and succeed in their careers and lives, have a secret: they make the most of networks and they have large networks of people who support them, give them information, and help them.

One of the most typical stories I always hear are about stars having psychological issues, problems with drugs, and so forth. In almost all cases the reason for this is because the person feels isolated and alone. I saw a story recently about Tatum O�Neil who spent a long time in the hospital after a traffic accident and only had three visitors the whole time (her parents each visited just once). She soon descended into a world of drugs and other problems with her personal life and a suicide attempt.

You need to work with people with whom you have an affinity and can create connections. You need to work in an industry where you can create connections. Your career and success will be determined in large part, by your ability to create connections with the people around you.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 16:35

Roger_Mudd: Jul 18, 2003; Buglord

Any bankruptcy attorneys around?

# ? Dec 12, 2010 17:23

quepasa18: Oct 13, 2005

Tetrix posted:

I've wondered about this in laterals. Didn't you have to give them as a reference?

I've left two different law firms after looking for new jobs. Once I went to another firm and the second time it was for my current teaching job, so in a different industry. In both circumstances, they understood they couldn't contact my then-current employer; they've actually all probably been through that all themselves. It happens all the time so it's not like it would be strange to not use your current employer as a reference. So for references I used the judges I clerked for and (for the first change) an attorney at the firm I worked at in law school.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 17:33

qwertyman: May 2, 2003; Congress gave me $3.1 trillion, which I already spent on extremely dangerous drugs. We had acid, cocaine, and a whole galaxy of uppers, downers, screamers, laughers, and amyls.

Roger_Mudd posted:

Any bankruptcy attorneys around?

Taken a few bankruptcy courses; will probably be in bankruptcy when I start my job after graduating. How complicated is the question...?

# ? Dec 12, 2010 17:44

Roger_Mudd: Jul 18, 2003; Buglord

qwertyman posted:

Taken a few bankruptcy courses; will probably be in bankruptcy when I start my job after graduating. How complicated is the question...?

I just had more general "the business" of a bankruptcy practice questions.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 18:13

WhiskeyJuvenile: Feb 15, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo

Copernic posted:

Time for some daily job search advice from the CEO of BCG Attorney Search:

is he making GBS threads us?

# ? Dec 12, 2010 19:14

Leif.: Mar 27, 2005; Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

Let's say I have hypothetically decided that my JD is useless and that I don't want a career in law. And then lets further say I decide to go back to grad school. If I was going to do that, what areas of study actually lead to viable, interesting careers that are not dead-end hellhole shittraps like law?

# ? Dec 12, 2010 20:50

Roger_Mudd: Jul 18, 2003; Buglord

SWATJester posted:

Let's say I have hypothetically decided that my JD is useless and that I don't want a career in law. And then lets further say I decide to go back to grad school. If I was going to do that, what areas of study actually lead to viable, interesting careers that are not dead-end hellhole shittraps like law?

Med School
Economics
European Art History 1800-1855

# ? Dec 12, 2010 21:17

CmdrSmirnoff: Oct 27, 2005; happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy

SWATJester posted:

Let's say I have hypothetically decided that my JD is useless and that I don't want a career in law. And then lets further say I decide to go back to grad school. If I was going to do that, what areas of study actually lead to viable, interesting careers that are not dead-end hellhole shittraps like law?

I'm not convinced there are any degree programs that generally lead to interesting careers. I think at this point it's better if you take up something "interesting" on the side and try to make a career of it, or else you're just making the same career move as before: "Welp, I don't know what to do with my life. Better get a [x] degree!!"

With that out of the way, if you qualify, try to get into a hard science program like physics or chemistry. Then do a post-doc. Then join NASA.

Boom, in 20 years you're the first space lawyer. I don't mean a "space law lawyer", I'm talking "lawyer in space." You could review contracts on Europa! Or draft wills for colonists on century-long flights! :allears:

# ? Dec 12, 2010 21:24

BigHead: Jul 25, 2003; Huh?; Nap Ghost

SWATJester posted:

Let's say I have hypothetically decided that my JD is useless and that I don't want a career in law. And then lets further say I decide to go back to grad school. If I was going to do that, what areas of study actually lead to viable, interesting careers that are not dead-end hellhole shittraps like law?

Nursing. Everyone needs nurses.

# ? Dec 12, 2010 21:49

Ainsley McTree: Feb 19, 2004

BigHead posted:

Nursing. Everyone needs nurses.

I've heard it's rough for nurses too. Anecdotally anyway. Maybe the nursing school thread has more info. Or at least more anecdotes.

Even if you do make it as a nurse however you will at some point early in your career get someone's bodily fluids like, all over you, so there's that. And not even in a sexy way probably

# ? Dec 12, 2010 21:55

sigmachiev: Dec 31, 2007; Fighting blood excels

BigHead posted:

Nursing. Everyone needs nurses.

This and someone else mentioned Econ. FWIW, I went to a forum a few weeks ago on how to become a law professor, and a ton of the new Berkeley Law hires have Econ PhDs and a lot of schools are trying to ramp up their business acumen. Those who had strong econ backgrounds said they got multiple interviews and offers through the meat market. Didn't have to have the PhD come from Harvard (in fact none of them went there for it, it was mostly people from U of Chicago and Penn which are still killer schools for this sorta thing). Plus they said there are econ things you can legitimately do in the international market that might be both lucrative and sorta interesting. So that plus your JD might actually make for some cool opportunities.

You can always roll the dice and get a PhD in English and go teach at a community college (legit good idea).

# ? Dec 12, 2010 22:06

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Tetrix posted:

I've wondered about this in laterals. Didn't you have to give them as a reference?

I told them not to contact them until after I had given notice. Then you're in the tough spot of having the offer be contingent on a reference check, but it's better than the alternative (to me).

# ? Dec 12, 2010 22:39

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# ? May 18, 2024 09:08

_areaman: Oct 28, 2009

sigmachiev posted:

You can always roll the dice and get a PhD in English and go teach at a community college (legit good idea).

http://chronicle.com/article/Graduate-School-in-the/44846

# ? Dec 12, 2010 23:03

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