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Guava posted:True, although we have every reason to believe that Surma's mother also died when she was young. Didn't it turn out that Tom had misread the question as being about Surma instead of Surma's mother? I don't follow the Word of Tom, but I seem to recall someone posting in here that that was the case. Surma's mother could still be alive, for all we know.
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Elftor posted:Didn't it turn out that Tom had misread the question as being about Surma instead of Surma's mother? I don't follow the Word of Tom, but I seem to recall someone posting in here that that was the case. Surma's mother could still be alive, for all we know. You are correct. http://twitter.com/gunnerkrigg/status/9206452753268736 quote:Oops, I misread that formspring question as "Is Surma still alive". It's not nearly as important as people think.
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What is that last panel? Some kind of animal skull, or an internal organ of some sort?
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Dec 20, 2010 09:46
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I'm fairly certain it's a coyote skull. Kind of an ominous image, considering where she's headed.
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It is a animal skull but dont know what animal it is from.
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It's a coyote skull.
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Well, this couldn't possibly be foreshadowing anything.
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Wait, does this mean Anthony is actually Zombie Coyote?
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inthesto posted:Wait, does this mean Anthony is actually Zombie Coyote? I think it means that Coyote is DEAD BECAUSE OF ANNIE 
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Dec 20, 2010 14:50
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Thank you guys for clearing up what that was. I certainly didn't like what I saw it as.
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Guys I'm pretty sure Coyote can't die.
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Guava posted:Guys I'm pretty sure Coyote can't die. It's less that he can't die and more that he'd regard it as a trivial nuisance, maybe use the time to nap a bit before coming back to life in a week or so.
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I can't be the only one who gets chills from Anthony's facial expression. It even gives me Stendhal syndrome or something nearing to it.
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Dec 20, 2010 21:14
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Anthony Carver does realize that ultimately it's HIS fault for Surma's death. That's what you get for not using protection. Soul devouring death. 
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Fragrag posted:I can't be the only one who gets chills from Anthony's facial expression. It even gives me Stendhal syndrome or something nearing to it. It's possible that it's just because he looks like Antimony, but he seems very young. That plus his deliberately ignoring his daughter as he leaves makes me think he's extremely immature or childish. All the other adults we've seen who probably know why Surma died have managed to treat Annie very well in spite of it, which is the mature and compassionate thing to do. If Anthony really does have some kind of grudge against Annie for Surma's death, he's a very special kind of selfish.
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Pretty sure Anthony knows it was all his fault and cannot bear to even look at the living proof of it.
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It can't be coincidence that his face looks EXACTLY like Annie's when she lit up the bridge. BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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Ka0 posted:Pretty sure Anthony knows it was all his fault and cannot bear to even look at the living proof of it. This is pretty much my interpretation of it. He seems to have believed that he could save Surma (he must have, if he spent that much time trying), but he failed. Maybe he even told Surma he could fix things so they could have Annie without her dying, but he wasn't able to do it. Also, keep in mind that the others didn't have to actually watch Surma die. They found out about it at one remove, dealt with it (or failed to) in their own ways, and had Annie show up later. They know of the connection intellectually, but they wouldn't feel it like Anthony does; he watched her die for years and was powerless to do anything about it, and knew Annie was on some level (through no fault of her own) responsible for it. That'll breed a bit of bitterness in a guy. On a totally unrelated note: Tom has gotten a number of questions on Formspring about his book deal. He hasn't given a full rundown of things, but it seems like he got no advance and makes $0.00 per book (unless he sells it to you personally at a convention). Does anybody know how Archaia's book deals work? Have I missed something important or are they just screwing him?
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Pretty sure it is illegal for a publisher to sell books without the author gaining a dime. Permissions and all that.
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Ka0 posted:Pretty sure it is illegal for a publisher to sell books without the author gaining a dime. Permissions and all that. Well, he may have given the permissions for a flat sum with no royalties contract.
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Dec 21, 2010 04:26
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Is this the first glimpse we've caught of adult Anthony's face?
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Yep. If he had said one line it would also have *doubled* the amount of things we've heard from him too. Dudes a cypher, although it's nice to see him completely wrecked at his wife's soon to be death bed. At least we've established he has a heart!
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idonotlikepeas posted:On a totally unrelated note: Tom has gotten a number of questions on Formspring about his book deal. He hasn't given a full rundown of things, but it seems like he got no advance and makes $0.00 per book (unless he sells it to you personally at a convention). Does anybody know how Archaia's book deals work? Have I missed something important or are they just screwing him?
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That could be it, then. It's very easy to scam net proceeds; just ask anyone in the movie industry.
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Fragrag posted:I can't be the only one who gets chills from Anthony's facial expression. It even gives me Stendhal syndrome or something nearing to it. That's kind of weird, dude.
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idonotlikepeas posted:That could be it, then. It's very easy to scam net proceeds; just ask anyone in the movie industry. That sucks balls if that's happening. If Tom found a better publisher and reprinted I'd gladly rebuy the books from him because he deserves what he can get from it.
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Ka0 posted:Pretty sure Anthony knows it was all his fault and cannot bear to even look at the living proof of it. Given that Surma thought to tell Annie that her father still loved her without any prompting from her, it seems suggestive that she has reason to think that Anthony no longer does, or will be imminently acting in a way that suggests that he no longer does. Anthony is such an arsehole.
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I took a peak at this comic via the webcomics thread and was completely hooked. Blazed through the entire thing over the span of two days at work. Great stuff.
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Brrrr, this latest run has been nerve-wracking. Congratulations on putting the screws in so deep, Tea-san. (Also, Coyote is such a creep)
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Fangz posted:Given that Surma thought to tell Annie that her father still loved her without any prompting from her, it seems suggestive that she has reason to think that Anthony no longer does, or will be imminently acting in a way that suggests that he no longer does. (This may be what you meant, but your wording is ambiguous:) Or that he will imminently be acting in a way that she might perceive as being otherwise. (Like appearing to abandon her.) It's entirely compatible with non-rear end in a top hat Anthony:
The scenarios for the first point are endless. For example, perhaps Anthony is now trying to do something to prevent what happened to Surma from happening to Annie. (Obviously, if they don't want to tell her what's happening to Surma, there'd be no way to explain that.) Yes, he could just be an rear end in a top hat, but you'd have to explain why she'd lie to Annie about it, given what we've been shown of the nature of Surma's interactions with Annie to date. I mean, even so he could still be an rear end in a top hat. I just feel like the story is tonally saying something very different from the tone you're getting from it. (But I could be wrong, too.)
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Well, it may well be that there's an entirely innocent explanation, but Surma probably wasn't referring to where Anthony is now, since from the ages this was a long time before Anthony broke off contact completely and disappeared. And Surma is, as established, kinda a habitual liar and manipulator (albeit for positive reasons, maybe?) so... Just saying, it continues to look not so good for Anthony. And Coyote is super suspicious, and I still think he has something to do with all of this.
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Fangz posted:Just saying, it continues to look not so good for Anthony The fact he loves his daughter isn't looking good for him?
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nothings posted:
Who would tell their kid that their other parent doesn't love them, even if it's the truth? I think the interpretation that he doesn't care for Annie comes from the way he completely ignored her when leaving. You'd think the average parent could spare a smile or pat on the head for their young child, even when upset. Just walking straight past them without a glance seems really cold.
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The fact that we have never been shown Anthony actually being as nice a guy Surma makes out is fairly interesting. We're only given impressions of him as told by other characters. According to Surma he's a loving husband and father, according to Renard he's a jerk, to everyone else he's a strange loner. Annie seems to hold her mother's opinion on him, but it looks like it is more that is what her mom said and she places a lot of weight on what her mom said. At this point his actual character is unknown. I do hope we get to learn more about him soon though, as this whole "what is he really like" mystery is starting to run a bit thin.
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Brannock posted:That's kind of weird, dude. Never go to a fine arts museum with me then  Stendhal syndrome might be overdoing it, but that was the closest thing I could find that could describe it adequately
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inkblot posted:The fact that we have never been shown Anthony actually being as nice a guy Surma makes out is fairly interesting. We're only given impressions of him as told by other characters. According to Surma he's a loving husband and father, according to Renard he's a jerk, to everyone else he's a strange loner. Annie seems to hold her mother's opinion on him, but it looks like it is more that is what her mom said and she places a lot of weight on what her mom said. Of course Renard thinks he's a jerk. He stole his wife!
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Wandering Eye!
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Rincewind posted:Wandering Eye! I can totally integrate this new information into my Iron Golem hypothesis, just gimme a minute. I'm right dammit-
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