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Serella
Apr 24, 2008

Is that what you're posting?

Rrail posted:

I finally found them a few hours after that post. The wife/mother said that he's just old, and that the he's already been to the vet. She couldn't tell me what specifically was wrong with him but I didn't press it. She said they don't really expect him to live through the holidays; he is 12 or 13 years old. :( I like him a lot, he is such a nice giant cat, it's too bad really. Also my dog really liked him and was really sweet to him after some time, and the cat would try to clean the dog.

Already been to the vet, but when? How is he being treated, since he's obviously sick? Sounds fishy to me, like they don't want to take care of their cat.

Also, 12 or 13 is not particularly old for a cat. Most live past 15, a good lifespan being between 18-20.

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Crooked Booty
Apr 2, 2009
arrr

pandaid posted:

Question about cat appetite:
If you haven't already, try warming up the food. Try canned tuna packed in water. Try chicken or turkey baby food (make sure it's just meat ingredients, no garlic/onions/etc). 50% of her normal caloric intake is extremely dangerous territory for developing hepatic lipidosis, especially over a period of several weeks. If she does not eat more, she is going to get much sicker... or she may have already. Your vet can prescribe drugs to stimulate appetite, and they work really well for most cats.

Also, your cat has been sick for several months with multiple problems and no end in sight. I know you like your vet, and I know I've said this before, but you should really consider getting a second opinion or seeing a specialist.

pandaid
Feb 9, 2004

RAWR

Crooked Booty posted:

If you haven't already, try warming up the food. Try canned tuna packed in water. Try chicken or turkey baby food (make sure it's just meat ingredients, no garlic/onions/etc). 50% of her normal caloric intake is extremely dangerous territory for developing hepatic lipidosis, especially over a period of several weeks. If she does not eat more, she is going to get much sicker... or she may have already. Your vet can prescribe drugs to stimulate appetite, and they work really well for most cats.

Also, your cat has been sick for several months with multiple problems and no end in sight. I know you like your vet, and I know I've said this before, but you should really consider getting a second opinion or seeing a specialist.

Well we did figure out what was wrong with her, finally . Giardia and all that. Sadly she had it for 2 months until we figured it out, and she didn't deal well with the de-parasite medicine, on top of another medication. I called about her food intake, and they gave me anti nausea medicine for the next round. I also picked up some nutrical, but she only eats a little of it at a time.

Yeah, I'm not happy with their inability to treat her faster, but she did come from a hoarder, is geriatric, and has no prior medical history. The vets come highly recommended, both from friends, and from the internets. I'm not sure what path to take next. I mean, we're making progress, but she just seems to be sickly.

Oh and these are specialists. They are a cat-only vet practice with 3 vets. I've seen all three, so I consider that to be a second opinion.

pandaid fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Dec 17, 2010

Crooked Booty
Apr 2, 2009
arrr
Maybe your vet is excellent, but I am personally frustrated on your behalf at how long your cat has been sick. And unless I'm misunderstanding your post, she has now been treated for giardia and is still sick. Also, wasn't she on a long course of metronidazole (which also treats giardia) a while ago? So she's actually been treated for it twice. And on top of that, giardia to me seems like a pretty minor diagnosis compared to the other stuff she has going on, i.e. kidneys, teeth, appetite, etc. Basically I think you're far from being out of the woods, and I hope your vet is taking her other problems seriously and not just telling you "Oh giardia, well now she's fixed!" :(

ETA: Maybe you just need to be in touch with your vet more often. No vet worth anything would stand for your cat eating 50% of her normal calories for several weeks and not try to address her appetite. I don't know if that's on you for not telling them, or on them for not knowing better or not keeping in touch with you, but either way it's really serious.

Crooked Booty fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Dec 17, 2010

pandaid
Feb 9, 2004

RAWR

Crooked Booty posted:


ETA: Maybe you just need to be in touch with your vet more often. No vet worth anything would stand for your cat eating 50% of her normal calories for several weeks and not try to address her appetite. I don't know if that's on you for not telling them, or on them for not knowing better or not keeping in touch with you, but either way it's really serious.


I'm frustrated too, believe me. I was in touch at least three times about the appetite. It was hard because she was just finishing one round of the metro-whatits name, which makes her constipated, right after taking a dewormer pill. The dewormer pill REALLY made her sick for 24 hours. Just did not want to move. Told the vet about that, and after wards her appetite started to improve. Then we found out about the parasite. So back on a HIGHER dose metro-whatits name and a different de-parasite drug. That second drug really affected her, and I would make sure to get her to eat before giving it to her. Only 60-70% of giardia responds to the first drug, that she had been on before. Of course she has the more exotic kind.

Told the vet that her appetite was less, and they said to call back in a few days if it didn't get better. So I did, and they said she was nauseous from the medicine - the lethargy and low appetite. Apparently they don't have to puke when nauseous. Today was her first day medicine free, and second day free of the de-parasite drug. She actually sat in the window and looked out, and meowed for food several times. I gave her food, but she didn't eat as much as I hoped she would. She has kibble out all the time, which she has nommed on a few times.

I feel like I'm both calling the vet WAY TOO often, and yet not calling enough. I'm seriously calling or going over there at least once a week.

We're all getting to know her, all at once, me and the vets. It's been a crash course in learning how to care for a cat for me, like all the things you'd go through in a lifetime within 3 months. It's making me super paranoid about her health. I'm still hoping that after we do this giardia treatment and fix her teeth she'll be done with the chronic illness. I think she doesn't have big kidney issues - as she's not peeing excessively anymore and the urine was the only sign. I think maybe her system was just going through a lot when they did the test. We'll see about that with regular checks.

I appreciate your concern, really. And everyone's help. She turned out to be a project kitty and has the nickname 'million dollar kitty'. Sometimes that's how it goes, and we have a deal. She lives for 5 more years, and I give her whatever care she needs.

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.

Serella posted:

Already been to the vet, but when? How is he being treated, since he's obviously sick? Sounds fishy to me, like they don't want to take care of their cat.

Also, 12 or 13 is not particularly old for a cat. Most live past 15, a good lifespan being between 18-20.

One cat has been in my family since I was six months old. She was put down about six months ago because she was deteriorating really badly, but she was 23 years old too.

RheaConfused
Jan 22, 2004

I feel the need.
The need... for
:sparkles: :sparkles:

2508084 posted:

One cat has been in my family since I was six months old. She was put down about six months ago because she was deteriorating really badly, but she was 23 years old too.

Agreeing with you and Serella. That cat doesn't need to die and those people are loving douchebags. 12 or 13 is only middle aged. It's probably looking decrepit from not being taken care of. Take it over and take it to the vet.


Pandaid: One trick that worked for my cat who refused to eat was forti flora. It's a powdered, chicken flavored probiotic. You can get it on amazon, but your vet may carry it if you want to try it out faster. They would probably give you a few packets to try. It's good for digestively challenged kitties, but my cat would gobble down any food it was on because of the chicken flavor. You can put it on wet or dry.

Also, have you tried a lot of foods or just the one? Sometimes cats just up and decide they want a new kind of food. Sometimes they even want dry over wet. The bottom line is that it's better for them to fill their caloric needs with crap than to not eat normally. I would also try a variety of foods. If your cat is anything like mine she could get into finicky bout if this goes on for much longer and end up with hepatic lipidosis.

coaxmetal
Oct 21, 2010

I flamed me own dad
So, my cat doesn't meow. I am not sure she can. When she was a kitten, she made a loud, plaintive squeaking or mewling, but now all she does is a soft squeek/chirp (and she doesn't open her mouth to make this noise). She seems to do it when she wants attention or something, where another cat would probably meow.

I don't mind or anything, and she seems perfectly healthy, I just find it strange and was wondering if anyone knew anything about this.

Rrail
Nov 26, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Serella posted:

Already been to the vet, but when? How is he being treated, since he's obviously sick? Sounds fishy to me, like they don't want to take care of their cat.

Also, 12 or 13 is not particularly old for a cat. Most live past 15, a good lifespan being between 18-20.

I don't know how else to push it, today was literally the first time I met them, and when I asked if he's been to the vet all she offered was "yes" (I actually asked twice and she wouldn't offer anything other than "we don't know whats wrong, blahblah"). What can I do, kidnap the cat and take it to the vet? It's their cat. :(

Edit: Just realized I can take him while they are at work and say he was acting really sick at our house. I'll do that as soon as I can. I hope this weekend (or Monday) isn't too late. :ohdear:

Rrail fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Dec 17, 2010

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.

Rrail posted:

Edit: Just realized I can take him while they are at work and say he was acting really sick at our house. I'll do that as soon as I can. I hope this weekend (or Monday) isn't too late. :ohdear:

STEAL THE CAT O_O

No, I'm not advocating cat theft. Maybe you can buy it off them? They don't seem to care about the cat too much and you seem to care a lot more. Maybe a monetary bribe for the cat will change their minds since they're pretty set on the poor thing not living through the holiday.

I'm a bad, horrible person because I'd just say it got sick while I had it and the vet decided the best option was to put it down humanely then keep it myself and make it better (if at all possible).

ladyweapon fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Dec 17, 2010

HondaCivet
Oct 16, 2005

And then it falls
And then I fall
And then I know


Rrail posted:

I don't know how else to push it, today was literally the first time I met them, and when I asked if he's been to the vet all she offered was "yes" (I actually asked twice and she wouldn't offer anything other than "we don't know whats wrong, blahblah"). What can I do, kidnap the cat and take it to the vet? It's their cat. :(

Edit: Just realized I can take him while they are at work and say he was acting really sick at our house. I'll do that as soon as I can. I hope this weekend (or Monday) isn't too late. :ohdear:

That's a good idea. If he's not eating I'd take him pretty quickly.

The vet will probably give you some sort of treatment for him. Just offer to keep him at your place and administer the treatments until he's better. They'll probably forget about him after a couple weeks and he'll be as good as yours.

Flavor Text
Jan 3, 2010

Why would you lick books, ew
Hello Catthread!

The brother and sister cats arrived home from the shelter yesterday. They got acclimated to the house very quickly.



This is Elspeth. She will ride on your shoulders if you let her.



This is Venser. He is diligently protecting you from the dangers of warm air. No need to thank him.

They are both extremely cuddly cats. The only thing that's an issue, and I don't even know if it is one, is their interaction with each other. So far it has been very limited, and mostly been Elspeth stalking Venser, like so:



And then if he ever turns around and is too close to her for her liking, she hisses and raises her paw and he runs away. Maybe this is just their dynamic that she's developed since she's so much smaller than him? Or just play? Or is it something that will work out once they have been in the house longer?

Cats are wonderful, it's been too long since I've had any in my life. Now to spoil them rotten!

ChairmanMeow
Mar 1, 2008

Fire up the grill everyone eats tonight!
Lipstick Apathy
I think you got two of dang near the best ones. As to their interactions they may chill out, they may not. I would just let them sort it out. My cats were supposedly buddies when I got them but I never get cat piles, they just kinda have their spots. Yours might just be a tad on edge with the changes, it's a bit early to tell.

I keep my dishes on a bakers rack, and I have to keep a paper towel on the top of each dish. Soon you may find your life covered in cat hair.

Congrats.

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.

Flavor Text posted:

And then if he ever turns around and is too close to her for her liking, she hisses and raises her paw and he runs away. Maybe this is just their dynamic that she's developed since she's so much smaller than him? Or just play? Or is it something that will work out once they have been in the house longer?

That sounds pretty chill. I don't/didn't worry about my two 'fighting' unless I heard a serious warning growl (that low belly growl that makes your cat sound possessed) or claws came out. It sounds like they're just getting settled into their cat hierarchy. My Nermal is a runt, but she runs the house including all 13lbs of Sully.

\/ that cat sounds absolutely terrifying :stare:

ladyweapon fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Dec 17, 2010

Myrddin Emrys
Jul 3, 2003

Ho ho ho, Pac-man!

coaxmetal posted:

So, my cat doesn't meow. I am not sure she can. When she was a kitten, she made a loud, plaintive squeaking or mewling, but now all she does is a soft squeek/chirp (and she doesn't open her mouth to make this noise). She seems to do it when she wants attention or something, where another cat would probably meow.

I don't mind or anything, and she seems perfectly healthy, I just find it strange and was wondering if anyone knew anything about this.

One of my cats is completely mute. When he was a kitten he would open his mouth to try to meow and it would come out "eeeeeee" all broken up and high pitched. It was adorable, and there was nothing wrong with him according to the vet. When he got older he just stopped meowing and started communicating via purr - that is, he purrs really loud and to get our attention he purrs with his mouth open, which is louder than you'd think. Yeah we thought he was a perfectly healthy cat who just liked being quiet or had the cat equivalent of a speech impediment....

...until the most recent time we went to the vet. It had been a few years since rabies and distemper here are 3 years and I had been a bit lax about yearly exams since they're both young and hadn't shown any signs of anything (and are strictly indoor cats etc). Yeah I know, I should go in more often, and I am now.

Anyway, we get him in the carrier, and then into the car. The car starts moving, and I immediately stopped because I thought there was some sort of air-raid siren or fire alarm going off. "ooooOOOOOOAAAAAAAWWWWWRRRRRRRR" over and over, and there is my normally mute cat, mouth wide open. It was scary, but vet said it was probably just car sickness.

HondaCivet
Oct 16, 2005

And then it falls
And then I fall
And then I know


Myrddin Emrys posted:

One of my cats is completely mute. When he was a kitten he would open his mouth to try to meow and it would come out "eeeeeee" all broken up and high pitched. It was adorable, and there was nothing wrong with him according to the vet. When he got older he just stopped meowing and started communicating via purr - that is, he purrs really loud and to get our attention he purrs with his mouth open, which is louder than you'd think. Yeah we thought he was a perfectly healthy cat who just liked being quiet or had the cat equivalent of a speech impediment....

...until the most recent time we went to the vet. It had been a few years since rabies and distemper here are 3 years and I had been a bit lax about yearly exams since they're both young and hadn't shown any signs of anything (and are strictly indoor cats etc). Yeah I know, I should go in more often, and I am now.

Anyway, we get him in the carrier, and then into the car. The car starts moving, and I immediately stopped because I thought there was some sort of air-raid siren or fire alarm going off. "ooooOOOOOOAAAAAAAWWWWWRRRRRRRR" over and over, and there is my normally mute cat, mouth wide open. It was scary, but vet said it was probably just car sickness.

:psyduck:

I can only imagine what that sounds like.

fine-tune
Mar 31, 2004

If you want to be a EE, bend over and grab your knees...

coaxmetal posted:

So, my cat doesn't meow. I am not sure she can. When she was a kitten, she made a loud, plaintive squeaking or mewling, but now all she does is a soft squeek/chirp (and she doesn't open her mouth to make this noise). She seems to do it when she wants attention or something, where another cat would probably meow.

I don't mind or anything, and she seems perfectly healthy, I just find it strange and was wondering if anyone knew anything about this.

We had a cat like this once. She would open her mouth as wide as she could and we'd hear an "eeee" noise. Our current cat can meow, but she prefers "mrr" and "eee" sounds as well. We were chatting with one of the shelter employees who mentioned a squeaky cat and her guess was a really bad URI as a kitten turned meows into squeaks.

pogoman
Oct 24, 2005

I go Pogo.
Does anyone have any experience with Proden Plaque-off?

http://www.plaqueoff.com/proden_plaqueoff_animal/proden_plaqueoff_animal.htm

You add it to food/water, and it supposedly gets plaque and tartar off the animal's teeth w/o brushing. I'm a little skeptical since it sounds too good to be true. However, the pet store in Kansas City swears it works as advertised.

I'm interested in any possible negative effects.

Right now, I'm using Petzlife, and it's a little too soon to tell if it works. But a local pet store swears it works, even without brushing. Again, I wonder if it's too good to be true.

http://www.petzlife.com/before-afters/index.php

Does anyone have any advice/comments? Thanks.

(My cat is healthy, neutered and eats wet-food only. He needs his teeth cleaned on a yearly basis, but I'm feeling especially broke this year.)

Rrail
Nov 26, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post

HondaCivet posted:

That's a good idea. If he's not eating I'd take him pretty quickly.

The vet will probably give you some sort of treatment for him. Just offer to keep him at your place and administer the treatments until he's better. They'll probably forget about him after a couple weeks and he'll be as good as yours.

Well he's eating a little bit here and there (he used to hoover down as much food as you would put in front of him), and the neighbors said he's eating at their house but not keeping the weight on. I will take him as soon as I can, the problem is he is an outdoor cat, so I have to wait for him to show up and be around when the neighbors aren't outside. He used to be over here every single day but for the last two or so weeks he hasn't been around a lot (I'm guessing the neighbors are keeping him in a lot more).

I just made an appointment with my vet for 8 in the morning. I hope I can find him tonight so I can trap him inside (and by trap him inside I mean he will sleep on my treadmill until the following morning like he always does). He's really hard to find a lot of the time. If it comes back that something is wrong with him and it would have been easy for the vet to spot I am going to be loving livid. I understand not wanting to tell a neighbor you don't even know that you don't have the money or willingness to take care of your pet to save face, but I flat out said "We were just wondering if you had taken him to the vet because if you couldn't we would do it" and she reiterated that he had already been. I will kidnap this little fucker and take it to my moms if that turns out to be the case.

Rrail fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Dec 17, 2010

HondaCivet
Oct 16, 2005

And then it falls
And then I fall
And then I know


Rrail posted:

Well he's eating a little bit here and there (he used to hoover down as much food as you would put in front of him), and the neighbors said he's eating at their house but not keeping the weight on. I will take him as soon as I can, the problem is he is an outdoor cat, so I have to wait for him to show up and be around when the neighbors aren't outside. He used to be over here every single day but for the last two or so weeks he hasn't been around a lot (I'm guessing the neighbors are keeping him in a lot more).

I just made an appointment with my vet for 8 in the morning. I hope I can find him tonight so I can trap him inside (and by trap him inside I mean he will sleep on my treadmill until the following morning like he always does). He's really hard to find a lot of the time. If it comes back that something is wrong with him and it would have been easy for the vet to spot I am going to be loving livid. I understand not wanting to tell a neighbor you don't even know that you don't have the money or willingness to take care of your pet to save face, but I flat out said "We were just wondering if you had taken him to the vet because if you couldn't we would do it" and she reiterated that he had already been. I will kidnap this little fucker and take it to my moms if that turns out to be the case.

You are awesome, just don't get yourself shot or anything if they think you stole their cat. And yeah, she's probably lying and was just trying to get rid of you/save face. If you find that they are neglecting the animal you could maybe call animal control so that they can keep an eye on her . . . that is, if you have an effective AC in your area.

Rrail
Nov 26, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post

HondaCivet posted:

You are awesome, just don't get yourself shot or anything if they think you stole their cat. And yeah, she's probably lying and was just trying to get rid of you/save face. If you find that they are neglecting the animal you could maybe call animal control so that they can keep an eye on her . . . that is, if you have an effective AC in your area.

If it turns out they are neglecting the animal they aren't getting it back, period, so that won't be an issue. She doesn't seem like a bad person from my brief 3 minute conversation, she was very nice and friendly, but they may just not have the money.

Here is the handsome fella (taken a couple months back):

Click here for the full 1600x1200 image.


Can't really tell from the picture but he is(was) loving enormous.

Rrail fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Dec 17, 2010

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.

Rrail posted:

If it turns out they are neglecting the animal they aren't getting it back, period, so that won't be an issue. She doesn't seem like a bad person from my brief 3 minute conversation, she was very nice and friendly, but they may just not have the money.

Here is the handsome fella (taken a couple months back):

Click here for the full 1600x1200 image.


Can't really tell from the picture but he is(was) loving enormous.

Oh my god, get some good food in him regularly and he will be the softest cat ever :3:

Rrail
Nov 26, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post

2508084 posted:

Oh my god, get some good food in him regularly and he will be the softest cat ever :3:

Yah, he is extremely soft. We have been feeding him hairball control because he was having what we thought was a hairball problem; he would get up every once in a while and start coughing really hard. May be something lung related instead.

Here is a picture demonstrating his fatness:

Click here for the full 1296x968 image.


When he gets excited he drools like a dog. :3:

Rrail fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Dec 17, 2010

Myrddin Emrys
Jul 3, 2003

Ho ho ho, Pac-man!

HondaCivet posted:

:psyduck:

I can only imagine what that sounds like.

Yeah, it was definitely scary at first. I guess now I know why he's usually mute. he's just not good at meowing. :3:

It was almost like a "car is in motion" alarm because every time the car stopped, he was completely quiet again. My other cat was meowing normally every once in a while but she was drowned out by the horrific siren noise.

coaxmetal
Oct 21, 2010

I flamed me own dad

Myrddin Emrys posted:

One of my cats is completely mute. When he was a kitten he would open his mouth to try to meow and it would come out "eeeeeee" all broken up and high pitched. It was adorable, and there was nothing wrong with him according to the vet. When he got older he just stopped meowing and started communicating via purr - that is, he purrs really loud and to get our attention he purrs with his mouth open, which is louder than you'd think. Yeah we thought he was a perfectly healthy cat who just liked being quiet or had the cat equivalent of a speech impediment....

...until the most recent time we went to the vet. It had been a few years since rabies and distemper here are 3 years and I had been a bit lax about yearly exams since they're both young and hadn't shown any signs of anything (and are strictly indoor cats etc). Yeah I know, I should go in more often, and I am now.

Anyway, we get him in the carrier, and then into the car. The car starts moving, and I immediately stopped because I thought there was some sort of air-raid siren or fire alarm going off. "ooooOOOOOOAAAAAAAWWWWWRRRRRRRR" over and over, and there is my normally mute cat, mouth wide open. It was scary, but vet said it was probably just car sickness.

Yea, my cat was all about the "eeee" when she was a kitten. It was so adorable but also pitiful, so I couldn't resist her at all, even if I had no idea what she wanted (although, for that matter, I still can't resist).

I have been meaning to take her to the vet for a routine checkup (been over a year since her last (and first) one), and I bet when I gets around to it she will eeeeee up a storm or something. I'll ask the vet about her now meowing, in any case.

Myrddin Emrys
Jul 3, 2003

Ho ho ho, Pac-man!

coaxmetal posted:

Yea, my cat was all about the "eeee" when she was a kitten. It was so adorable but also pitiful, so I couldn't resist her at all, even if I had no idea what she wanted (although, for that matter, I still can't resist).

I have been meaning to take her to the vet for a routine checkup (been over a year since her last (and first) one), and I bet when I gets around to it she will eeeeee up a storm or something. I'll ask the vet about her now meowing, in any case.

My cats a big brute of a man cat. Which made it really funny when he opened his mouth, you'd expect a roar or something, and he just peeped.

Now, though, his meow is that of something like 3 times his size. In fact if my cat wasn't already named Tuck I would rename him Black Bolt.

Crooked Booty
Apr 2, 2009
arrr

pogoman posted:

Does anyone have any experience with Proden Plaque-off?

(My cat is healthy, neutered and eats wet-food only. He needs his teeth cleaned on a yearly basis, but I'm feeling especially broke this year.)
I'm not familiar with Plaque-off, and I'm extremely skeptical, but I doubt it will hurt anything. I haven't even heard good anecdotes about water additives or sprays, much less seen evidence. Personally I'd be a little worried to do anything to my cats' water that might make them drink less, but I know a lot of people use those water additives (with questionable results).

I would ask your vet about OraVet; it's actually like dentist poo poo instead of weird herbal poo poo. It's a waxy sort of sealant that people are having good results with. Typically the first round is applied by your vet during a dental (because it works better if the teeth are dry, i.e. your cat is asleep), and then you apply it at home regularly. It's kind of a pain, but not nearly as bad as brushing. You just get a blob on your finger or a q-tip and smear it around the outer tooth surfaces where tartar accumulates - so like 10 seconds once a week. It's not super cheap, but it's cheaper than a dental and a box of it lasts forever for cats.

Rrail
Nov 26, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Just an update in case anyone cares:

I took the cat (Gary) to the vet this morning. They were really concerned about his labored breathing so they did some x-rays... I guess when they x-ray they want to see about half white/half black with the lungs. His were all white, meaning they were either filled with fluid or he had a dramatically enlarged heart (the doctor hinted she believed the latter was the case). They said he was getting about 20% of the lung capacity that he should be getting, and that he was in a lot of pain, and that basically nothing could be done for him. I came back and told the neighbors where there cat was and that they should go see him. They told me they had planned on bringing him in on Monday for a final evaluation to decide whether he should be put down or not (they had never had him x-rayed). Gary is on oxygen at the vets right now and I believe will be put down within the hour. There was no amount of money I could spend that would fix him.

RIP little buddy. :(

Click here for the full 1296x968 image.


Edit: On top of everything I feel like an rear end in a top hat because I took these neighbors last night with their cat away from them, and it turns out they may have had good intentions at heart. :(

Rrail fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Dec 18, 2010

RheaConfused
Jan 22, 2004

I feel the need.
The need... for
:sparkles: :sparkles:
Nope. If he was outside then they weren't exactly making him comfortable in his last days, were they? Plus, he's in pain, it doesn't need to wait until Monday. You did the right thing, 100%.

Rrail
Nov 26, 2003

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RheaConfused posted:

Nope. If he was outside then they weren't exactly making him comfortable in his last days, were they? Plus, he's in pain, it doesn't need to wait until Monday. You did the right thing, 100%.

He would cry until you let him out a lot of the time, so I guess I understand that. The vet just called and said the family had them reverse out the charges to my card and paid for it themselves. I guess I expected that but it somehow makes me feel even worse. I don't need the money and he was worth well more than a few hundred dollars for all the happiness he gave myself, my wife and my brother.

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.

Rrail posted:

He would cry until you let him out a lot of the time, so I guess I understand that. The vet just called and said the family had them reverse out the charges to my card and paid for it themselves. I guess I expected that but it somehow makes me feel even worse. I don't need the money and he was worth well more than a few hundred dollars for all the happiness he gave myself, my wife and my brother.

They're probably trying to save face at this point. You did a good thing. Instead of having to go hide somewhere to pass away, he's getting some decent care and a humane death.

RheaConfused
Jan 22, 2004

I feel the need.
The need... for
:sparkles: :sparkles:

Rrail posted:

He would cry until you let him out a lot of the time, so I guess I understand that. The vet just called and said the family had them reverse out the charges to my card and paid for it themselves. I guess I expected that but it somehow makes me feel even worse. I don't need the money and he was worth well more than a few hundred dollars for all the happiness he gave myself, my wife and my brother.

You need to keep some perspective here. If he had been given decent veterinary care in the first place, he wouldn't be in this situation. He may not be able to be saved now, but I'm willing to bet a lot of money that if he had had regular veterinary care and had been taken to the vet when his symptoms first became evident, especially the weight loss, he could have been saved.

HondaCivet
Oct 16, 2005

And then it falls
And then I fall
And then I know


I'm so sorry, at least you ended his suffering a little bit sooner. :( I hope these people have learned to not wait so long before getting real medical attention next time.

If you really don't need that money you could donate it in the kitty's name to a good shelter or rescue in the area. :shobon:

akulol
Apr 14, 2008
- Age: ~5 months
- Sex: M/M
- How long have you had your cat?: 8 days
- Is your cat spayed or neutered?: yes
- What food do you use? - Natural Balance Ultra Premium
- When was your last vet visit?: Haven't had one yet
- Is your cat indoors, outdoors, both?: Indoors
- How many pets in your household?: 3 (One is my roommates' who is completely isolated from my cats and has his own litter box in her room)
- How many litter boxes do you have?: 1

My boyfriend and I decided to adopt some kittens from the local shelter after our beloved Snoop had been missing for far too long. They're super adorable and loving... BUT.. they seem to have developed a making GBS threads issue.

For the first few days, they were perfectly normal. They had just gotten neutered the day I picked them up. I was warned of ensuing diarrhea "today, or maybe tomorrow". To my delight - they pooped normally, in the litter box, and all was well in the world. This went on for about 5 days. However - 2 days ago, one of them (Steven) started making GBS threads this foul, terrible liquid, pretty much anywhere other than the litter box. He then tries to cover it up, and gets disgusting. poo poo everywhere. Giving a cat a bath is incredibly difficult. I kind of figured maybe he ate something (I caught him chewing on some plants my roommate brought in for the night because it was freezing outside) and it would pass, but he's still going strong. Then, my other kitten, Zed, started making GBS threads in the bathtub. Normal, healthy poops, at least...

Fast forward to today - both of them are pooping out disgusting poop-mud every time they go. They seem to be going at normal times from when they eat - they aren't going every 20 minutes or anything crazy. They both refuse to poop in the litter box, despite my efforts. I completely emptied the box and gave them fresh litter and they still won't poop there. I've been using the feline pine litter, which they seemed perfectly happy with before. What's confusing me the most is that they both still only pee in the litter box.

The shelter gave me a voucher to have a free vet check up, but it apparently was only good for the 3 days after I got them. Figures an issue comes up right out of that window. I was thinking I could call them and beg them to honor it?

How can I retrain them to go in the box? Why are they not pooping normally?!? I've never had a cat do these things before. Should I try a different food? A different litter? Are they just having trouble adjusting to a new home (they seem so happy and cuddly, and they used the box normally before...)?
This is incredibly frustrating.

And, on a better note, since this is PI: pictures!!


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This is Steven, the one who gets poo all over himself:

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And this is Zed, the shower-shitter:

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His pointy ears are super adorable.

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Sorry for the picture spam (not really)!
Please help my poor Shittens.

HondaCivet
Oct 16, 2005

And then it falls
And then I fall
And then I know


So why did they warn you about impending diarrhea? Was this the shelter or the vet?

As for why they stopped using the litter box, when cats have painful pee/poo they sometimes blame the litter box. Then they decide to go somewhere else that they deem more comfortable. I'd try to check out why the diarrhea's going on first because the litter box problem has a good chance of going away after that.

P.S. They are super cute and remind me a lot of my own little dummies. Mine have spotty noses too although the spots aren't as dark.

akulol
Apr 14, 2008

HondaCivet posted:

So why did they warn you about impending diarrhea? Was this the shelter or the vet?
That was the vet at the shelter, because of the anesthetic they gave them for their neutering, I guess.
Since I posted that, we've had one successful poop in the box and one on the tile in the living room. I've cleaned up so much poop. If they weren't so painfully adorable, I would strangle them.

Kerfuffle
Aug 16, 2007

The sky calls to us~
My first guess would be deworming stuff. Worms are common in strays and diarrhea is a normal reaction to dewormer, but it would be strange for them not to mention that.

Enelrahc
Jun 17, 2007

It would be smart to go get a checkup and a fecal run. The shits like that, especially with them coming from a shelter, could be something like giardia or coccidia. I wouldn't really expect the anesthetic to have given them the runs for that long, especially as the boys are usually only under for like 5 min.

ChairmanMeow
Mar 1, 2008

Fire up the grill everyone eats tonight!
Lipstick Apathy

Rrail posted:

Just an update

I know you cared a lot about Gary and I'm sorry.

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Kerfuffle
Aug 16, 2007

The sky calls to us~
Ok, our cat disappeared today and scared everyone and he finally came back after being gone for nearly the entire day. He is indoor/outdoor, but really obviously prefers indoors. (this is obviously not at all my choice) My brother and I have had enough, and I'm making my mom make him indoor only. I can't stand that he's let outside anymore (he's loving declawed on top of it for god's sake) and I'm tired of worrying about him. I don't mind him being out in the backyard with us, he does enjoy it, but him just being let out alone has to stop.

I'd like to make the outside to litter box transition as simple as possible, so my mom will be more willing to go along with it. So how do you start? Do I put some outside garden dirt that he always goes in a litterbox first? Or use something like cat attract litter? Any litterbox or litter recommendations? Are there any good flushable options?

I feel so weird asking what seem like obvious questions, my family has had indoor/outdoor cats for as long as I can remember (they're also all dead from it :smith:), so this is embarrassingly new territory for me. :(

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