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Bojanglesworth
Oct 20, 2006

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:
Look at all these burgers-running me everyday-
I just need some time-some time to get away from-
from all these burgers I can't take it no more

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Tiresias posted:

Here's my prepped to drag your $125k camera in low mode across the Lake Los Angeles dry lakebed. I'm a bit more worried about my Steadicam than I am the camera.



That is pretty rad. What were you working on?

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Tiresias
Feb 28, 2002

All that lives lives forever.

Bojanglesworth posted:

That is pretty rad. What were you working on?

Motorcycle spot, had to get some driving shots. Worked out really nice, especially the golden hour and sunset shots.

Bojanglesworth
Oct 20, 2006

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:
Look at all these burgers-running me everyday-
I just need some time-some time to get away from-
from all these burgers I can't take it no more

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Tiresias posted:

Motorcycle spot, had to get some driving shots. Worked out really nice, especially the golden hour and sunset shots.

Nice! I am just getting into film so getting to see up close and personal how everything works was great for me. I hope I have the opportunity to work on a lot more stuff with these guys.

Andraste
Oct 22, 2005
Sorry for the cell phone quality image, this is the only one I had of the set-up unfortunately.



Two RED Ones rigged inside an old Russian biplane getting ready to shoot areal footage of a Piper for a project I DP'd in October.

SquareDog
Feb 8, 2004

silent but deadly
So a guy walks in to our rental shop for his 5D order and asks, "Can you make a setup that will hold two cameras so I can shoot video with one and stills with the other for this music video?"

....yes, yes we can.



includes a Bartech and a 7' monitor w/video converter all on the same ridiculous rig.

EnsGDT
Nov 9, 2004

~boop boop beep motherfucker~
That is absolutely wonderful

SquareDog
Feb 8, 2004

silent but deadly
He even put that thing ON A JIB.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT
How did... what did... oh god.

EnsGDT
Nov 9, 2004

~boop boop beep motherfucker~
Please tell me it was for porn.

Mozzie
Oct 26, 2007

SquareDog posted:

So a guy walks in to our rental shop for his 5D order and asks, "Can you make a setup that will hold two cameras so I can shoot video with one and stills with the other for this music video?"

....yes, yes we can.



includes a Bartech and a 7' monitor w/video converter all on the same ridiculous rig.

this, this is the death of cinema right here

Bojanglesworth
Oct 20, 2006

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:
Look at all these burgers-running me everyday-
I just need some time-some time to get away from-
from all these burgers I can't take it no more

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

SquareDog posted:

So a guy walks in to our rental shop for his 5D order and asks, "Can you make a setup that will hold two cameras so I can shoot video with one and stills with the other for this music video?"

....yes, yes we can.



includes a Bartech and a 7' monitor w/video converter all on the same ridiculous rig.

That thing is crazy. I can't imagine trying to shoot photos with my camera bolted to a big rig like that. Looks really sick though!

SquareDog
Feb 8, 2004

silent but deadly
I can't wait till we get the AF-100s so we can stop using the 5/7Ds I'm so sick of them.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

Bojanglesworth posted:

Looks really sick though!

As in "I am going to be sick."

Did you ask how the shoot went?

SquareDog
Feb 8, 2004

silent but deadly
the DP was a veteran top-of-his-game photographer but he had no experience with video, it was his first production. I didn't hear him complain when he came back so I assume he pulled it off.

Tiresias
Feb 28, 2002

All that lives lives forever.

SquareDog posted:

I can't wait till we get the AF-100s so we can stop using the 5/7Ds I'm so sick of them.

2007: I can't wait for the RED camera so we can stop using the 35mm film adapters.
2008: I can't wait for the Sony EX1/EX3 so we can stop using the HVX200.
2009: I can't wait for the Scarlet/Epic so we can stop using the RED camera.
2010: I can't wait for the Panasonic AF-100 or Sony PMW-F3K so we can stop using the Canon 5D/7D.

Future: I can't wait for the next cheapo thing so we can stop using the current cheapo thing.

EnsGDT
Nov 9, 2004

~boop boop beep motherfucker~

SquareDog posted:

I can't wait till we get the AF-100s so we can stop using the 5/7Ds I'm so sick of them.

I'll take a 5D off your hands haha

SquareDog
Feb 8, 2004

silent but deadly

Tiresias posted:

2007: I can't wait for the RED camera so we can stop using the 35mm film adapters.
2008: I can't wait for the Sony EX1/EX3 so we can stop using the HVX200.
2009: I can't wait for the Scarlet/Epic so we can stop using the RED camera.
2010: I can't wait for the Panasonic AF-100 or Sony PMW-F3K so we can stop using the Canon 5D/7D.

Future: I can't wait for the next cheapo thing so we can stop using the current cheapo thing.

I'm sick of the 7D because it's not made for shooting video, and you have to mod it all up to get it to production standards (as pictured). It's not even cheap! To really get it up to standards you wind up paying very nearly as much as you would for a Red kit, which is almost always the better option if they can afford it. I've talked several customers out of using an adapter or a 7D and going with a Red because that other stuff isn't worth the hassle.

I'm looking forward to the AF-100 because it is a large(ish) sensored, PL-mounted camera that is actually designed for video use without needing to add on all this extra stuff and is a useful and cheaper alternative to the Red.

Will there be something better on the horizon when we have the AF-100 and eventually the Sony? Sure, that's the way it goes. Are they going to make a us a load of money? hell yeah. I'm just glad we're going to(eventually) stop using still-camera equipment for video applications.

Walnut Crunch
Feb 26, 2003

SquareDog - any idea when you're getting your AF-100's?
We're patiently awaiting our order and apparently they are starting to trickle out. I've got a whole closet full of lenses I can't wait to attach to an as yet non-existent camera.

So looking forward to the AF100. Larger sensor goodness with SDI, proper audio, proper monitoring. It's going to be such an awesome complement to our hpx-500

SquareDog
Feb 8, 2004

silent but deadly
I was told we're getting them before December is over... December is almost over.

One thing I've wondered but not bothered to research, does anyone know if it has internal ND filters? All of panasonic's other camera do but amazingly the new 3D camera we got from them doesn't. It's awful, you have to put the thing on a rod support system and slap a matte box on it if you want to shoot out in broad daylight which really diminishes the ultra portable appeal.

EDIT: answered my own question, yes it does. Thank God.
http://pro-av.panasonic.net/en/af100/feature01.html

SquareDog fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Dec 24, 2010

Tiresias
Feb 28, 2002

All that lives lives forever.

SquareDog posted:

I'm sick of the 7D because it's not made for shooting video, and you have to mod it all up to get it to production standards (as pictured). It's not even cheap! To really get it up to standards you wind up paying very nearly as much as you would for a Red kit, which is almost always the better option if they can afford it. I've talked several customers out of using an adapter or a 7D and going with a Red because that other stuff isn't worth the hassle.

A friend who isn't a shooter asked me about buying a 5D/7D. My response: "If in 4 months from now, you're happy with having a dSLR that takes great photos and maybe some video, I say go for it. Otherwise, don't think you're buying a camera that's going to make you any money on rentals. Time is short, so be sure you invest in something you'll be OK with owning in a few months."

Bojanglesworth
Oct 20, 2006

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:
Look at all these burgers-running me everyday-
I just need some time-some time to get away from-
from all these burgers I can't take it no more

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:
Do any of you guys use Hard Stops on your follow focus? Specifically a DSLR follow focus. Mine didn't come with any and I can already see me needing a couple.

Bojanglesworth
Oct 20, 2006

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:
Look at all these burgers-running me everyday-
I just need some time-some time to get away from-
from all these burgers I can't take it no more

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:
Are their any 5d users in here who use Magic Lantern firmware? I want to try it out but it seems a bit sketchy.

Tiresias
Feb 28, 2002

All that lives lives forever.
Merry Christmas, to all you aspiring DP's. Here's a joke:

What's the first thing a DP's wife should do after having sex?

Go pick him up at the airport

Andraste
Oct 22, 2005
How many grips does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Two, one to hold it and another to hammer it

Best Christmas gift for me this year is definitely a subscription to American Cinematographer.

SquareDog
Feb 8, 2004

silent but deadly
Speaking of American Cinematographer, you guys gotta read this article about an awesome Deftones music video. All effects done in-camera and with no color correction.

Read the article here
http://www.zf-films.com/AC/ZFCL.Sextape.AC.2010.pdf

Watch the video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0pdwd0miqs



codyclarke
Jan 10, 2006

IDIOT SOUP
This could be pretty exciting... we'll know in the next 2 days if it's legit: http://philipbloom.net/2010/12/30/shoot-2k-3k-and-4k-on-the-canon-550d-t2i-coming-in-2-weeks/

quote:

will be released on January 1st 2011 11:11pm EST
will be free
4K resolution will be 4096×2304
60p in 1080p mode possible
Moire and aliasing “fixed”
5D Mark II support will be released on January 11, 2011
Recording time in 4K is only 6 seconds. Maybe 10 seconds in future release
Writing 6 Seconds of 4K footage to card takes about 30 seconds.
25p is NOT going to happen. Probably never.
Heating was a problem until 6 days ago. But not anymore.
Has built in limiter so you won’t brick your camera
Battery will be sucked up pretty fast.
Will NOT record in 16:9 (coming in future release)
Will be frist released for T2i (550D) and will later come to 7D, 5D Mark II. No Word on 60D yet.
Monthly updated planned on each months 1st
First 2 releases will be free. Later releases won’t. Will be around 50 USD
“Rolling Shutter isn’t much of an issue”
No drop frames
Youtube User Dod3032 will get the firmare one day early and will put up videos on youtube on 2011-01-01
Sourcecode will also be released
LiveView won’t work while recording
HDMI Out will still work
1080p with 175Mb/s Bitrate looks georgeus
Works only with fast Class10 cards
Working cards are: Sandisk Extreme III class 10 8gb and above. Transcend class 10 16gb and above and Lexar Pro class 10 32gb.
Color-Space 4:2:2
No playback in-camera
7D Security is a pain in butt because of firmware counter. So no support yet.
Not T1i (they don’t have one)
Development took about 2 months in total
Special Website will be up soon

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Considering how poorly these cameras' chips resolve 1080p, I'd hate to see what they'd look like at 4k. Also, without proper HDMI out (don't these cameras output SD?), 10 second recording times don't sound too attractive.

1st AD fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Dec 30, 2010

bassguitarhero
Feb 29, 2008

It does sound beyond useless, but I'm sure people will find some interesting ways to adapt it. Could be really nice for a 4k stop-motion film or some very short green-screen sections. But I think for most folks who'd try to implement the firmware, it'd be a bevy of headaches for little or no increase in visual quality.

I could see the 5D owners I know installing it because "everything's better with 4K dawg! Your camera can't do that!" and then try to shoot a live-action music video at 10 seconds a go, without investing in lights or set equipment.

Then again, people were modding DVX-100s to shoot HD by running a USB feed directly from the chipset, so it is consistent with people trying to figure out how to squeeze a bigger image out of their equipment

\/\/\/\/\/\/ - Haha, duh true, it's still a DSLR

bassguitarhero fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Dec 31, 2010

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
You can already shoot a 4k stop motion film without any firmware hacks, just shoot still images :v:

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Looks like the new T2i firmware is released :haw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN2wNS2YlVI

SquareDog
Feb 8, 2004

silent but deadly
Welp, saw that coming.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
I'm gripping on my first legit shoot, and holy gently caress this producer is dumb. She went on a whole spiel about how awesome RED is and how you don't need much lighting. This whole project is being shot on 5Dmk2s and there's a grip truck with a shitload of lighting.

Tiresias
Feb 28, 2002

All that lives lives forever.

1st AD posted:

I'm gripping on my first legit shoot, and holy gently caress this producer is dumb. She went on a whole spiel about how awesome RED is and how you don't need much lighting. This whole project is being shot on 5Dmk2s and there's a grip truck with a shitload of lighting.

This won't be the first time you meet a producer who thinks they know how to light. Usually, the cycle goes that they think, with newer cameras, you don't need lights... then they get a project to a client, the client HATES it, and they wind up deferring to the knowledge of the camera/lighting crew.

Moral of the story: smile, be diplomatic, amicably disagree ("Yea, the 5Dmk2 really does some amazing things with low light, but you still need lights to create ratios, create the appropriate mood for the story, make actors and actresses of varying facial types and complexion really look great on an unforgiving camera."), and be a gentle mix of the person who warned them but also the person who "told them so".

ogopogo
Jul 16, 2006
Remember: no matter where you go, there you are.
I got a call to be a DIT this weekend. I've got experience with P2 and CF media, and feel comfortable enough with organization and backups. I'm just wondering if anyone has any tips or tricks that will help me out.

No info yet on camera package and media type, but I hope to know soon.

Schwza
Apr 28, 2008
I'm just getting into doing my own directing and producing project and I am looking at a DVX100a with a little over five hundred hours on it. Otherwise the previous owner says he hasn't had any problems video wise with it minus a glitch or two on reusing the tapes. What should I be looking at for a price?

SquareDog
Feb 8, 2004

silent but deadly
Save your pennies and get something that doesn't record to tape. seriously you'll thank me.

Andraste
Oct 22, 2005

Tiresias posted:

This won't be the first time you meet a producer who thinks they know how to light. Usually, the cycle goes that they think, with newer cameras, you don't need lights... then they get a project to a client, the client HATES it, and they wind up deferring to the knowledge of the camera/lighting crew.

Moral of the story: smile, be diplomatic, amicably disagree ("Yea, the 5Dmk2 really does some amazing things with low light, but you still need lights to create ratios, create the appropriate mood for the story, make actors and actresses of varying facial types and complexion really look great on an unforgiving camera."), and be a gentle mix of the person who warned them but also the person who "told them so".

I would say, if you're working on a real project, just let the producer say whatever he wants and just smile and nod; then continue to do whatever you key told your to do.

For even if you are right, it's not worth it.

edit: I'm a little confused, the Producer was spewing poo poo about how good RED is, but he has you shooting on 5Ds?

Andraste fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Jan 4, 2011

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
The producer thought we were shooting on RED. We were not, and I don't know about you guys but a DSLR definitely does not look like a RED.

Jalumibnkrayal
Apr 16, 2008

Ramrod XTreme

1st AD posted:

The producer thought we were shooting on RED. We were not, and I don't know about you guys but a DSLR definitely does not look like a RED.

Heh I wonder if the Director and DP pocketed the difference in rental fees?

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1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
The crazy thing is that they rented nothing. They had their own grip truck, they own all their cameras (P2, RED, DSLR), sticks, jibs, monitors, everything.

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