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Scary-bendy Coyote is the best Coyote.
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Dec 29, 2010 09:24
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For some reason, Annie looks older in this page. Not sure why, the last few pages she looks the same, but I didn't notice.
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Dec 29, 2010 11:47
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Haha. Don't keep underestimating Coyote, people.
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Dec 29, 2010 15:15
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As if Coyote would let you know when he genuinely ignored something.
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Dec 29, 2010 15:40
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Congratulations to the people that called that one. (I sure didn't.) Although of course we all knew why Rey was hanging around. I wonder if the Court adults noticed that too.
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Dec 29, 2010 15:58
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I'm loving the way that the background (trees, etc.) is morphing and twisting around Coyote.
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Dec 29, 2010 16:00
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This will not be good for Ysengrin's mental health.
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Dec 29, 2010 17:55
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I suppose I'm the only one here who is disappointed, to see Coyote once again claiming to have known everything yet have done nothing about it. Since he's been introduced Coyote has done anything that justifies his reputation as this big scary deity that the Court is so worried about. For a trickster god he sure is boring.
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Dec 29, 2010 19:45
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Psych posted:I suppose I'm the only one here who is disappointed, to see Coyote once again claiming to have known everything yet have done nothing about it. Since he's been introduced Coyote has done anything that justifies his reputation as this big scary deity that the Court is so worried about. For a trickster god he sure is boring. He's invested in interesting outcomes, and apparently he's a nuanced enough soul to think interpersonal and diplomatic conflicts count instead of biting the heads off babies or ramping off buildings or whatever else it is that you think would make Coyote less "boring."
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Dec 29, 2010 20:09
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Psych posted:I suppose I'm the only one here who is disappointed, to see Coyote once again claiming to have known everything yet have done nothing about it. Since he's been introduced Coyote has done anything that justifies his reputation as this big scary deity that the Court is so worried about. For a trickster god he sure is boring. Uh. Do you know what a trickster god is? They're supposed to be shortsighted, vain, boastful, impatient and bright in short bursts at the exactly wrong time. They aren't -- Br'r Rabbit and thus possibly Anansi being somewhat of an exception -- supposed to be anything but a laughing stock. A trickster god is a creator god's opposite -- they tend to have the same sort of powers but they're just ... not even bad at using them or stupid per se but terrible at everything due to shortsightedness. So you know. He's not a big scary deity. He's a chump bomb that could go off at any moment due to his own half-baked ~*nefarious plans*~.
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Dec 29, 2010 20:55
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It's probably supposed to be Thematic that Coyote's not as much of a threat as the Court thinks he is. Although, granted, he is powerful enough to wipe the Court off the earth, it's just that if he does he doesn't get to laugh at them anymore.
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Dec 29, 2010 21:03
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He'd probably seriously gently caress it up or set himself up for future spectacular failure, because that's how trickster god stories go, usually.
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Dec 29, 2010 21:06
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Sulevis posted:He'd probably seriously gently caress it up or set himself up for future spectacular failure, because that's how trickster god stories go, usually. Um, how many Coyote stories have you read? I think Coyote is very much the threat the Court thinks he is. But we'll have to wait and see to find out!
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Dec 29, 2010 21:47
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Interesting how many of the comments on the page think this is a creepy or 'shipper kind of thing. Renard is inappropriate now and again, but it seems pretty clear that his behavior is more of a protective love towards a child.
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Dec 29, 2010 23:00
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Fangz posted:Um, how many Coyote stories have you read? I read one where he tries to stay up all night to be the first of all the animals to receive special gifts from a creator-deity - and ends up falling asleep and ending up the absolute last. I read one where Coyote gave a blanket to a rock because the rock was bare and he was feeling generous - but he got cold and took the blanket back. Then the rock chased him and smashed him flat, because a gift once given isn't something you're allowed to take away. I read one where he wanted to make his children as pretty as baby deer - so after the Doe lied and told him that she makes the spots by burning them, Coyote set his own children on fire. I read one where Coyote tricked Porcupine out of some elk meat - and then Porcupine tricked Coyote right back and murdered him and his entire family. Porcupine is kind of a jerk in that one. He and Coyote have a sort of back-and-forth going on in several stories, where they're both tricksters out to trick each-other - but Porcupine generally gets the last laugh. I never read the one where Coyote tried to have sex with Porcupine Woman and got a dick full of quills (Native-American stories can get really... uh, graphic with that stuff) - but I'll take Neil Gaiman's word for it and assume that story also exists. I also read plenty of heroic stories where he comes out on top at the end, but Coyote can definitely be too clever for his own good. So, me, I'm onboard with the "Coyote will get what's coming to him one day" theory. I think it's going to come from the Wolf-tree he thinks he has firmly under his paw, though - and not from the Court.
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Dec 29, 2010 23:22
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Sulevis posted:So you know. He's not a big scary deity. He's a chump bomb that could go off at any moment due to his own half-baked ~*nefarious plans*~. It should be mentioned at this point that in some native cultures, Coyote isn't a trickster god. He's God. The Creator, the big cheese. Not for fakesies, not by mistake, but he's actual the force that set everything into motion. He's also sometimes a cultural hero as they call them, who is less 'animal' and more 'dude that does cool poo poo for the people'. And even when he's a trickster, sometimes he's a prick. Not an incompetent prick either, a really competent prick that is super good at making people miserable. Of course sometimes he's just a minor spirit that pranks folks too, or has to do scut work. In general though, probably shouldn't gently caress with coyote. quote:Interesting how many of the comments on the page think this is a creepy or 'shipper kind of thing. They look back at the story where Jones set up Andrew and Parley with their nice little matching flowers....said story ending with Renard and Annie side by side with matching flowers. And their little shipper hearts went "Squeee!".
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Dec 29, 2010 23:35
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Bonster posted:Interesting how many of the comments on the page think this is a creepy or 'shipper kind of thing. At least they've finally stopped passing around the "Renard is Annie's real father" bullshit? Though I'm not sure if this is better or worse. I really like that something has finally made Ysengrin realize Coyote is a dick. Ysengrin's major characteristic has been his unending loyalty toward Coyote, so the fact that he's outraged by this is pretty awesome. Annie, however, is having the absolute worst day ever, jesus christ. Also I agree with Staggy that the trees warping themselves around Coyote is an awesome touch.
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dumb brunette posted:At least they've finally stopped passing around the "Renard is Annie's real father" bullshit? Though I'm not sure if this is better or worse. Yeah, today's page is making me think we should have been worried about Ysengrin's reaction the whole time.
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Dec 30, 2010 03:39
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dumb brunette posted:I really like that something has finally made Ysengrin realize Coyote is a dick. Ysengrin's major characteristic has been his unending loyalty toward Coyote, so the fact that he's outraged by this is pretty awesome. Annie, however, is having the absolute worst day ever, jesus christ. I agree to an extent, but during the encounter in which Annie sees him without his wooden suit he comments that he knows Coyote tricked her into it, and that it wasn't her fault. So he is loyal, but he's not blind. He's loyal despite knowing Coyote's a dick. It does seem that this is the first Ysengrin has heard of Renard being tricked and captured - it would have been much different circumstances than thinking Renard simply turned tail one day and defected to the Court. A straight-up defection would be a definite betrayal, but knowing Renard was betrayed and still just leaving him is quite another.
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Wong Dongson posted:It should be mentioned at this point that in some native cultures, Coyote isn't a trickster god. He's God. The Creator, the big cheese. Not for fakesies, not by mistake, but he's actual the force that set everything into motion. He's also sometimes a cultural hero as they call them, who is less 'animal' and more 'dude that does cool poo poo for the people'. And even when he's a trickster, sometimes he's a prick. Not an incompetent prick either, a really competent prick that is super good at making people miserable. Yeah, okay, that's true. There are a billion Coyote stories, so. Though from the way Coyote's been presented in the comic and the stories we've been told (him loving up making his own people and him stealing the moon to spy on people, only to be kicked out for being a dick), it seems we're going with Trickster Coyote and not Great Creator Coyote. Also, this counts as a reply to Fangz too. Tom is the writer. Tom decides which Coyote to present. It seems we're getting the trickster version.
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Dec 30, 2010 07:05
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There is a story where coyote sees a beautiful woman across a lake, so he does the logical thing and detaches his penis then throws it over so it can seduce her. tl;dr coyote is a Rad Dude. Edit: Seriously, how loving awesome is that. "Oh hey, instead of actually crossing the lake, I'll just throw over the relevant bit and get on with my day." I mean it gets stolen later on but still.
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Dec 30, 2010 07:23
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Sulevis posted:Yeah, okay, that's true. There are a billion Coyote stories, so. All those stories are told by himself as a self-introduction to Antimony. They are meaningful, as the image Coyote wishes to present for himself. They may well be true stories, but whether they accurately describe him at all times is quite a different question. Towards Antimony, he certainly makes an effort to appear an old ridiculous fool. But we have little idea of how he appears before other people, we known that he has a 'great secret' which makes Ysengrin angry to even mention, and we know lots of other people are deeply suspicious of him and have in the past resorted to extreme measures to protect themselves from him. It seems rather bold to categorise Coyote as just one of the many aspects of mythological Coyote, knowing all this. Fangz fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Dec 30, 2010 |
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Dec 30, 2010 07:50
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Looks like we are going to find out what the deal is with Annie and her mother. It also seems like the court is going to come off looking pretty bad to Annie, what with Jones at least apparently knowing all about it and not telling her.
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Dec 31, 2010 09:04
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Annie is a robot. EDIT or a golem
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Dec 31, 2010 09:05
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Annie is a phoenix.
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Dec 31, 2010 09:23
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Anthony Carver is the knife Coyote gave Antimony. He and Surma Stibnite form a matching flint and steel set.
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Dec 31, 2010 09:39
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Poor Annie's having a really rough day. She's going to BSoD soon if people keep dropping bombs on her! 
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Dec 31, 2010 10:32
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Brownie posted:Annie is a robot. ChibiSoma posted:She's going to BSoD
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Dec 31, 2010 11:33
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Grashnak posted:Looks like we are going to find out what the deal is with Annie and her mother. It also seems like the court is going to come off looking pretty bad to Annie, what with Jones at least apparently knowing all about it and not telling her. To be fair they could have been waiting until she was older or something before telling her.
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Dec 31, 2010 15:07
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Sulevis posted:Yeah, okay, that's true. There are a billion Coyote stories, so. stop insisting it's a binary choice. It seems pretty loving clear that Annie regards him as powerful and "terrifying" no matter how much of a fuckup he is.
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Dec 31, 2010 15:07
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Annie seems to regard him as being powerful and knowledgeable, but I don't think she's scared of him at all. If she were scared of him, she would not have run to him for comfort and information, after all. I just don't buy some people's insistence that Coyote is the Joker.
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Dec 31, 2010 15:10
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Maybe she is superhuman. I would buy that.
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Dec 31, 2010 16:43
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DontMockMySmock posted:Annie is a phoenix. *Cue Kat fans squeeing like imbeciles*
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Dec 31, 2010 18:44
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Look at that. Look at that poo poo-stirring grin.
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Dec 31, 2010 18:47
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Holy smokes! She's a TOON!
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Dec 31, 2010 18:48
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Mirage posted:Holy smokes! She's a TOON! Surprised?
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Dec 31, 2010 18:53
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I'd put money on phoenix. And by the way, Tom is drawing a treatise right now: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gunnerkrigg-court
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Dec 31, 2010 19:34
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Annie is the Hulk.
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