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I applied to a ton of detroit firms. Haven't even been afforded a paper rejection. They've literally just ignored me. Maybe that will make you feel better.
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JudicialRestraints posted:I applied to a ton of detroit firms. Haven't even been afforded a paper rejection. They've literally just ignored me. Maybe that will make you feel better.
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I got a paper rejection almost 2 months after my Detroit callback (and six weeks after I told them I would be "pursuing other opportunities.") As an aside, I know a few people who had similar experiences in other rust belt markets (Ohio, Pittsburgh). Napoleon I fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Jan 4, 2011 |
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JudicialRestraints posted:I applied to a ton of detroit firms. Haven't even been afforded a paper rejection. They've literally just ignored me. Maybe that will make you feel better. They see you major in CLS and they fear you.
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:federal employee holocaust Yeah I'm wondering about this. I have a federal position this coming summer and they historically give permanent offers at the end of the summer. But, a federal hiring freeze or something similar seems possible as the Republicans seek to eliminate GOVERNMENT WASTE like myself. This is making me pretty nervous.
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http://www.abanet.org/lsd/legaled/value.pdf ahahahahaa Petey fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jan 4, 2011 |
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GamingHyena posted:There was one job out there, and I have it. I just accepted my job offer today! Got a call from my headhunter this morning - I got the job at that other firm. Now I have my current job, and an option for a new job. All of the jobs will be mine!
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NJ Deac posted:Got a call from my headhunter this morning - I got the job at that other firm. Now I have my current job, and an option for a new job. All of the jobs will be mine! Mods ban this troll tia
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Petey posted:http://www.cnbc.com/id/40863598 In other news, the ABA has accredited six new law schools, where tuition will average $35,000 per year. The average LSAT score accepted amongst these new law schools will be 145. California also proudly announced that the prestigious Southern California Blind Baptist College for Amputees Law School will be opening. It's the top Regionally Non-Accredited blind-only law school! NJ Deac posted:Got a call from my headhunter this morning - I got the job at that other firm. Now I have my current job, and an option for a new job. All of the jobs will be mine! I just got cold called by a guy in town here who apparently likes the sound of my voice over the phone. I told him I wouldn't be available until labor day and he said "poo poo." 
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Petey posted:http://www.cnbc.com/id/40863598 lol
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BigHead posted:In other news, the ABA has accredited six new law schools, where tuition will average $35,000 per year. The average LSAT score accepted amongst these new law schools will be 145. These are jokes right
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Direwolf posted:These are jokes right Yes. Also, if there actually is a Southern California Blind Baptist College for Amputees, that would be awesome and I would definitely apply despite neither being blind nor baptist nor an amputee nor southern nor Californian.
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Look at the conclusion of that ABA paper:quote:All law school applicants should have a clear picture of the debt that they will incur and the expected earning power of graduates from the schools to which they are applying. If their expected salary cannot easily support their expected debt, students should look for other options to cut back on expenses while in law school. Options include attending a local law school and living at home, going to a public school where one can get in-state tuition, enrolling in a part time program and continuing to work, or carefully controlling costs while in law school. If students do not consider the financial implications of their decision to attend law school, they may find themselves facing debt levels that they cannot support. With careful planning, however, everyone who wants to attend law school should be capable of doing so. A prospective law student should thus weigh her options carefully before choosing where to go to law school. Way to sit on that fence, ABA... Every special snowflake who reads that paragraph is going to think "With careful planning, I should be able to succeed at law school because I can just go to a local law school rather than that T14 I've been eyeing." Jesus christ. Edit: And how many strong public law schools are there? UVa? Univ. of Michigan? Edit2: And what the hell does "carefully controlling costs while in law school" mean? Don't buy casebooks? How about, don't go to law school? That's the easiest way to control law school costs.
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"Carefully control costs" means don't spend large amounts of money on items that won't offer you a good return, duh.
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And good public law schools aren't even that cheap. In state tuition at UVA law is $42,500, which is a $5000 discount from the $47,000 out-of-state tuition, which isn't much different than their private school competition.
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that's 'cause UVA is just barely a public school, and actually gets more funding from private sources than from the commonwealth
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Kase Im Licht posted:And good public law schools aren't even that cheap. Yeah it's the same story at Berkeley. During some forum a couple months ago our Dean talked about the finance model the school works out of now and said we're basically public in name only these days. And like UVA the private sources grossly outnumber public ones.
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BigHead posted:I just got cold called by a guy in town here who apparently likes the sound of my voice over the phone. I told him I wouldn't be available until labor day and he said "poo poo." Only headhunter call I received since starting my current gig in September was for a job that I had already interviewed for and been dinged by during the summer while I was unemployed. Jobs for those who have jobs already.
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Hey, don't worry guys, legal services firms are the second-most profitable businesses to start! If you somehow are unable to get even one of the plentiful backup $80k/year, 40-hour/week federal jobs, you'll be totally fine just starting your own shop. Maybe you should go to law school after all! http://www.forbes.com/2008/01/17/small-business-sageworks-ent-fin-cx_mf_0118mostprofitable_slide_3.html?thisSpeed=undefined
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I would like to publicly shame Captain Scraps for standing me up tonight.
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Just tell Captain Scraps "Wiener Panties."
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Roger_Mudd posted:I would like to publicly shame Captain Scraps for standing me up tonight. I deserve it. Deepest apologies, weird day. But that's not standing up, that's flaking. G-Mawwwwwww fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jan 6, 2011 |
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Dr. Mantis Toboggan posted:Hey, don't worry guys, legal services firms are the second-most profitable businesses to start! If you somehow are unable to get even one of the plentiful backup $80k/year, 40-hour/week federal jobs, you'll be totally fine just starting your own shop. Maybe you should go to law school after all! This is awesome! Glad things are finally turning around in this market.
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Colorblind Pilot posted:This is awesome! Glad things are finally turning around in this market. Such low overhead too! Just a secretary and some office space! And $1200/mo in debt payments and insurance and westlaw and oh wait there are no clients. But wait, all your marketing is done by word of mouth! Hooray!
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The oil business is great! Oil sells really well and everyone needs oil! That's why oil execs are all rich! Oil is our pick as top profitable start up.
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Solomon Grundy posted:Yes to both. By the way, it is not magically easier to get a small firm job, either. I have spent 12 years in a small firm in the midwest, and recent law grads are beating down our doors. We haven't hired an associate in 5 years. Oh god. I used to work at a small/mid-sized firm, and we were hiring a new associate. When word got out, every secretary had a family member and every associate had a friend who would be "perfect for the position." I managed to see some of the many, many resumes that came in through the mail, and some had really sad stories - mostly all a variation of "unemployed for 1-3 years, licensed for 10+" not to mention the recent grads. We finally hired one, and he became the guy doing all the dirty work no one wants; a paralegal who could also go to court appearances no one wants to go to! I used to think I wanted to go to law school, but the only advice I could get was: don't. The hours suck, which most of the time the pay does not scale to. It affects your personality. You're never not working, even at home. You get crushed by debt for years. But hey! You get an office with a window, and a secretary (who secretly thinks your inept, and is tired of mothering you).
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CaptainScraps posted:I deserve it. Deepest apologies, weird day. SHAME no biggie 
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Are there any particular law school scam blogs that are considered the leaders/the most updated etc/ that some gentleman could link me to Google produces mixed results
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Lemonus posted:Are there any particular law school scam blogs that are considered the leaders/the most updated etc/ that some gentleman could link me to http://killallthelawyers.ws/blog/
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For anyone want wants to ~*~Help The Poor~*~, I recommend you read this 34 page opinion. If reading this 34 page snooze fest makes your Panda Vajayjay wetter than the Nile, then I recommend you go to law school. However, if you are normal and it makes you bored, then I recommend you go into some other profession because goddamn that case is literally Mardi Gras for people who want to ~*~Help The Poor~*~. Cops stealing homeless people's tents is literally as exciting as it gets in public interest law. Edit: hey apparently "url" has an r in it. BigHead fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Jan 6, 2011 |
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704723104576062173458318658.html Yeah rankings of jobs are very subjective and whatever formula they used is probably stupid but: 
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Lemonus posted:Are there any particular law school scam blogs that are considered the leaders/the most updated etc/ that some gentleman could link me to One of the most popular is Third Tier Reality. His blog roll links to quite a few others that are updated on a daily basis.
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Tetrix posted:http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704723104576062173458318658.html I briefly looked through that article, and the rankings don't seem to quite match your picture. For example, Tax Examiner is ranked in the mid-40s, and attorney is ranked at 82 - but then, I may not have had the list ranked the same way, not sure how that works.
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AHAHAHAH I GOT SEC WHOOOOOOOOO Of course my friend had to be a total buzzkill and ask if summer = job offer later, to which I could only respond, "I hope so," but we'll see!
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billion dollar bitch posted:AHAHAHAH I GOT SEC WHOOOOOOOOO have fun managing the cam newton thing; i do not envy u
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billion dollar bitch posted:AHAHAHAH I GOT SEC WHOOOOOOOOO roll tide
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So not like I was going to get it anyways but if I haven't sent out summer applications yet I'm pretty much hosed, right? Or do I still have some sort of slim chance?
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Green Crayons posted:So not like I was going to get it anyways but if I haven't sent out summer applications yet I'm pretty much hosed, right? For anything good, yes. The good stuff is gone at the end of OCI. Ask your career services for options related to clerking for a judge or DA/PD.
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Green Crayons posted:So not like I was going to get it anyways but if I haven't sent out summer applications yet I'm pretty much hosed, right? Yep now you have to act like you are excited about public service otherwise you're not going to have any funding this summer.
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I have a federal subject matter jurisdiction question that's probably pretty easy, but I feel like contributing fodder for the thread, and bonus points because 1ls probably know this better than I do. Diversity jurisdiction, question is about amount in controversy: If you have a complaint that asks for $74,999 and attorney fees/costs and prejudgment interest, does that satisfy the $75,000 "face of the complaint" requirement? Seems like it should, but the actual damages are still under the magic number. EDIT: found this one if anyone cares: If the plaintiff may recover attorney fees by statute or contract, the attorney-fee claim may be included in determining the amount in controversy, regardless of whether a fee award is mandatory or discretionary. Lowdermilk v. United States Bank Nat’l Assoc., 479 F3d 994, 1000 (9th Cir 2007). Alternatively: complaint for $74k (no attorney fees, clearly not meeting the requirement) filed in state court and removed to federal court by defendant, who adds in counterclaims for $74k on partially related issues i.e. related to the same contract but alleging additional facts that give rise to their damages. Does the answer + counterclaim operate as the "face of the complaint" and if so, does that add the values together or can the original plaintiff move to mushi fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Jan 7, 2011 |
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