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All this talk of how awesome Wedge Antilles is is distressingly reminiscent of all this talk of how awesome Boba Fett is, and you know what awaits at the end of that dark path. MANDALORIANS
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Jan 9, 2011 21:31
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What frustrates me at the moment is there is a pefectly eighteen year long gap where we can get some non Jedi early Empire/Alliance stuff going but all we've seen so far is the Force Unleashed games a book where Vader gets his groove back. I mean, come on godammit!
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Jan 9, 2011 21:34
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SeanBeansShako posted:What frustrates me at the moment is there is a pefectly eighteen year long gap where we can get some non Jedi early Empire/Alliance stuff going but all we've seen so far is the Force Unleashed games a book where Vader gets his groove back. That's actually because Lucasfilm has blocked the EU from having stuff set between one year after ROTS and one year before ANH, to keep that space clear for the eventual live-action show. Which, considering how much the Clone Wars show is at odds with the earlier Clone Wars EU, is probably for the best in the long run. I've been reading some of the 1970s Marvel comics from the Dark Horse Omnibuses, and there's one issue which is a flashback to Obi-Wan when he was a Jedi during the Old Republic, fighting pirates around Alderaan. I have to hand it to Lucas - I think the brown robes of the PT-era Jedi are a much better choice than the skintight black and white jumpsuit Marvel depicted Obi-Wan wearing: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Obiwan_silent_drifting.jpg
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Jan 9, 2011 21:40
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Chairman Capone posted:That's actually because Lucasfilm has blocked the EU from having stuff set between one year after ROTS and one year before ANH, to keep that space clear for the eventual live-action show. Which, considering how much the Clone Wars show is at odds with the earlier Clone Wars EU, is probably for the best in the long run. I don't know, I kind of like Lukes Jedi tunic look from ROTJ much better than the robes. It seems more science fiction space opera to me. And that proper TV series is never going to happen.
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Jan 9, 2011 21:42
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Chairman Capone posted:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Obiwan_silent_drifting.jpg This is begging for an eyepatch.
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Jan 9, 2011 21:45
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It is interesting to see how we imagined the Jedi when we were all ten and look at them today. I can honestly say I never pictured them to be acrobatic as gently caress space monk samurai. In an alternate universe I expected they followed the medival knight model more. And our alternate selves would also be sperging over it.
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Jan 9, 2011 21:49
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NeonTurtle posted:I know I've heard somewhere that people figured out how to get it to run on XP/Windows 7. I'm sure I read about it when I discovered the total conversion for X-wing Alliance that turns it into the classic TIE fighter. For the conversion to work, you actually need the TIE CD because the installation rips the movies and voices from it. It's loving awesome. Yep as long as it's the collector's edition cdrom (not the DOS-only floppy version) it works fine under XP and 32-bit vista/7. They are 16-bit binaries, though, so it won't work as easily under 64-bit versions. I have the xwing and tie fighter collector's cdrom, xwing vs. tie fighter, and xwing alliance and they all work fine. Goddamn I love those games. Tie fighter is the best but they're all great.
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Jan 9, 2011 22:18
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Mad Hamish posted:All this talk of how awesome Wedge Antilles is is distressingly reminiscent of all this talk of how awesome Boba Fett is, and you know what awaits at the end of that dark path. The difference is Karen Traviss. I suppose there's that whole "not making GBS threads on one of the most basic tenets of the entire fictional universe" thing, too, if you're counting. Also that Kevin J. Anderson never really noticed that he assigned just Wedge (without even Rogue Squadron) to fight off four star destroyers all by himself in Jedi Academy Trilogy, book 2: Dark Apprentice.
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Jan 9, 2011 22:20
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Mad Hamish posted:All this talk of how awesome Wedge Antilles is is distressingly reminiscent of all this talk of how awesome Boba Fett is, and you know what awaits at the end of that dark path. I think the difference is that Wedge has never been built up as some kind of Godlike Nietzschean Uberman, who can prevail where mortals fail. His accomplishments are actually fairly reasonable for the setting, and are usually accomplished with a realistic level of difficulty. At a fair guess, I presume most of his fans like him just because he's a just regular guy who manages to get things done in a universe full of Space-Wizards and Mega-Geniuses. In fact, I'm pretty sure in one of the X-Wing novels he describes himself as just being marginally more capable with a star-fighter than his opponents, but possessing an inordinate amount of luck.
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Jan 9, 2011 22:40
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"I am Wedge Antilles. I survived the Battle of Yavin. I survived the Battle of Hoth. Hell…Just a couple of weeks ago I blew up the Death Star during the Battle of Endor. The reason I'm still breathing when a lot of other good Rebel pilots aren't? Maybe it's because I'm better. Or maybe I'm just lucky." -- "Lucky," Star Wars Tales 23. "Me, I'm the quintessential soldier who does his job very well. But what is that job? Two things: neutralizing Imperials and, the part I take most seriously, keeping my people alive. It doesn't matter if we were good or lucky out there today—and I'd rather the former than trust in the latter. What does matter is that we all survived, and that's as close to a miracle as I ever expect to see in my lifetime. The key thing to remember is that I can't trust in our luck or skill. I can't allow myself to believe we were that much better than the opposition and I can't let my people believe it. If they do, they'll die taking chances they should never take." - X-Wing: Rogue Squadron
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Jan 10, 2011 00:01
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^^ There's a sportsman's phrase that I'm suddenly reminded of..quote:The more I practice, the luckier I get. NeonTurtle posted:A quick google search found this thread that should help you out.
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Jan 10, 2011 00:02
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Doesn't Han speak whatever Jabba's language is, too? I don't remember 3P0 translating for either of them in RotJ. ...it's probably "Huttese" or "Huttlish," because that would be retarded and therefore super plausible.
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Jan 10, 2011 00:13
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Bene Elim posted:^^ There's a sportsman's phrase that I'm suddenly reminded of.. The B-wing missions were bitchin, but you're really missing out if you never played TIE fighter. Edit: Karma Tornado posted:Doesn't Han speak whatever Jabba's language is, too? I don't remember 3P0 translating for either of them in RotJ. I always got the feeling that Han didn't understand a word of what Jabba said. NeonTurtle fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jan 10, 2011 |
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Jan 10, 2011 00:13
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Karma Tornado posted:...it's probably "Huttese" or "Huttlish," because that would be retarded and therefore super plausible. It is Huttese and Han did understand it, because that's what Greedo was speaking in the bar before Han blew him away (without Greedo even firing a shot).
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Jan 10, 2011 00:49
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SeanBeansShako posted:It is interesting to see how we imagined the Jedi when we were all ten and look at them today. I thought they did crazy flippy poo poo and were basically superheroes. Force Unleashed was like a wetdream for 8 year old me.
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Jan 10, 2011 01:24
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Albu-quirky Guy posted:It is Huttese and Han did understand it, because that's what Greedo was speaking in the bar before Han blew him away (without Greedo even firing a shot). I heard George Lucas' original vision was for Greedo to shoot first, but the technology didn't exist in 1977 and he corrected it for the special edition releases so that we could enjoy the way it was meant to be.
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Jan 10, 2011 02:22
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Oh god no here we go. Are there any decent stories on IG-88? I remember him appearing in one of the games on the N64 back in the day as a boss, Shadows of the Empire? I think? but he always seemed like a decent character that could have done with a bit more development. I haven't read any of the EU though so I may have completely missed the mark.
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Jan 10, 2011 03:18
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Flipswitch posted:Are there any decent stories on IG-88? I remember him appearing in one of the games on the N64 back in the day as a boss, Shadows of the Empire? I think? but he always seemed like a decent character that could have done with a bit more development. In the EU, the 2nd Death Star was actually IG-88. Go ahead, look it up on Wookiepedia and see if I'm joking. I dare you!
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Jan 10, 2011 03:21
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Captain von Trapp posted:In the EU, the 2nd Death Star was actually IG-88. Go ahead, look it up on Wookiepedia and see if I'm joking. I dare you! Technically, it was only like ten seconds before it blew up anyways. It is the EU version of the dude calling shotgun for the passenger seat of the car a few seconds after somebody else. SeanBeansShako fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jan 10, 2011 |
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Jan 10, 2011 03:24
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Star Wars wiki on IG-88 posted:The remaining IG-88 uploaded his consciousness into a computer core destined for Death Star II. He succeeded in being uploaded, and was preparing to activate his program to take over all droids in the galaxy when it was destroyed. With his consciousness in the Death Star II, he would literally become the Death Star. 
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Jan 10, 2011 03:26
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quote:He traveled to Mechis III with his counterparts and started his droid rebellion there. He planned to take over the galaxy with droids because he thought droids were far superior to biologicals. He uploaded himself into the second Death Star, and was about to start his droid rebellion all over the Galaxy, when the Rebel Alliance destroyed the Death Star, destroying him with it.   drat I need to track me down some of these EU books, where do I start?
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Jan 10, 2011 03:30
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IG-88s? In MY Death Star? It's more likely than you think.
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Jan 10, 2011 03:35
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I actually liked that story because Boba Fett hosed up like 4 IG-88s by himself.
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Jan 10, 2011 03:55
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Chairman Capone posted:I have to hand it to Lucas - I think the brown robes of the PT-era Jedi are a much better choice than the skintight black and white jumpsuit Marvel depicted Obi-Wan wearing: However, I do think that black jumpsuit could be great look for a Jedi of the Republic in a time of war when combined with this Kenobi-in-armor statuette:  I think there is a good middle ground, though. Watching some clips from ROTS made me think how loving horrible the Jedi robes are in the overall feel of a scene. The Jedi SHOULD be smarter than this to know that in certain situations that their ceremonial choice of wardrobe is not really the best. Take the scenes where Anakin and Obi-Wan are boarding General Grevious' ship in ROTS: They pop out of their small fighters in full-on robes. Now, I'm not a Jedi, a pilot, an astronaut or a martial artist, but you'd think in the middle of a war they would have eventaully gotten to a point that they slimmed down to something more practical on the battlefield. Had Anakin and Obi-Wan emerged from their fighters in some basic light armor with a few jedi motifs to it, I think it would have helped do a lot of things. First, it would have shown how close the Republic is getting towards being the Empire, where even the Jedi are looking like Stormtroopers. Secondly, it could have been a bit of foreshadowing Anakin's fate of being sealed into life-saving armor for the rest of his life. Did the Jedis in the films ever wear anything close to the 'Jedi Trooper' armor of the Clone Wars animated series? JediTalentAgent fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Jan 10, 2011 |
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Jan 10, 2011 03:59
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Flipswitch posted:
"Tales of the Bounty Hunters", for this one. IG-88's story was the raddest thing ever when I was 12.
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Jan 10, 2011 04:01
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ZeeToo posted:"Tales of the Bounty Hunters", for this one. Compared to most EU crap, that and "Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina" were pretty decent.
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Jan 10, 2011 04:02
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JediTalentAgent posted:Did the Jedis in the films ever wear anything close to the 'Jedi Trooper' armor of the Clone Wars animated series? Obi-wan normally seemed to wear the shoulder armor from a clone trooper and Anakin had some funky black chest and wrist thing going on, but in the latest episode they're moving towards their appearances in RoTS, so more robes.
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Jan 10, 2011 04:03
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Flipswitch posted:
It's in Tales of the Bounty Hunters. There's some other terrible stories in there as well. They're all terrible EDIT: Relatively speaking, the Tales of books weren't that bad. They were from the earlier days when people were just writing straight sci-fi in the Star Wars universe and not just beating the ashen remains of the horse that was the franchise. They could pretty much do anything back then because there really was no EU to speak of. RocknRollaAyatollah fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jan 10, 2011 |
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Jan 10, 2011 04:32
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SeanBeansShako posted:Technically, it was only like ten seconds before it blew up anyways. It is the EU version of the dude calling shotgun for the passenger seat of the car a few seconds after somebody else. More like calling shotgun right before a horrific car crash a mile down the street.
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Jan 10, 2011 06:49
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JediTalentAgent posted:I think there is a good middle ground, though. Watching some clips from ROTS made me think how loving horrible the Jedi robes are in the overall feel of a scene. The Jedi SHOULD be smarter than this to know that in certain situations that their ceremonial choice of wardrobe is not really the best. Yeah but it's not as cool. RocknRollaAyatollah posted:It's in Tales of the Bounty Hunters. There's some other terrible stories in there as well. They're all terrible I think those books were the only reason I got into the EU at all. We had those, Shadows of the Empire, and the Rogue Squadron books, and I enjoyed all of those as a kid. It's depressing to see what it is now. At least the Tales of books were fun and we got silly rear end stories about random dudes in Jabba's palace. I also remember reading the Galaxy of Fear books. Basically they were Goosebumps novels set in Star Wars, and each book would have a bigger name guest star like Boba Fett or Thrawn. I kinda liked it.
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Jan 10, 2011 07:37
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AmbassadorFriendly posted:I also remember reading the Galaxy of Fear books. Basically they were Goosebumps novels set in Star Wars, and each book would have a bigger name guest star like Boba Fett or Thrawn. I kinda liked it.
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Jan 10, 2011 07:44
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Powered Descent posted:IG-88s? In MY Death Star? It's more likely than you think. Does anybody have the Photoshop that Sith Happens made of this? I tried looking at the old thread but ig88s.png was hosted on waffleimages and is gone now.
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Jan 10, 2011 08:38
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Chairman Capone posted:I've been reading some of the 1970s Marvel comics from the Dark Horse Omnibuses, and there's one issue which is a flashback to Obi-Wan when he was a Jedi during the Old Republic, fighting pirates around Alderaan. I have to hand it to Lucas - I think the brown robes of the PT-era Jedi are a much better choice than the skintight black and white jumpsuit Marvel depicted Obi-Wan wearing: Yeah, but honestly, EVERY comicbook costume from the 70s looks terrible. And looked terrible then, too, just no one noticed. Also, the idea of IG88 screwing with Palpatine just because he could sounds like a Family Guy sequence.
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Jan 10, 2011 08:51
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I have a buddy who has been trying to get a set of Storm Trooper armor for years, his birthday is coming up and I'm trying to help his wife get one together for him, but every site selling it right now just links to a "How to make your own armor" page. Are there any good sites for buying armor?
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Jan 10, 2011 16:55
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I may have an idea, is your buddy a thin guy?
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Jan 10, 2011 17:00
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Mister Roboto posted:I may have an idea, is your buddy a thin guy? Nope, he's not fat, as much as he is just really loving bulky around the torso.
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Jan 10, 2011 17:09
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Karma Tornado posted:Doesn't Han speak whatever Jabba's language is, too? I don't remember 3P0 translating for either of them in RotJ. Huttese is the most common galactic language after Basic (our English or whatever). It seems like a pretty common second language for people as everyone seems to be able to understand and speak it.
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Jan 10, 2011 17:19
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Something that occurred to me in the shower just now: the prequels spend all this screen time explaining senate politics bullshit and jedi library bullshit and complex betting bullshit, when ANH doesn't even tell us what the gently caress a Bothan is. Which brings up my geeky Star Wars question: I know what they are now, but what were Bothans originally supposed to be, that their sacrifice would be emphasized? Was it a title for embedded intelligence agents? Was Elfin Rebel Leader Lady (Mon Mothma, I know, but don't ask me how I know or who the gently caress she is (don't you dare link to wookiepedia you fucks)) from the planet Both, and bankrolling the rebel alliance in some way, so that she was essentially saying "My people bled for this, and you had better loving make good on this one-in-a-million chance you crazy Rogue Squadron bastards"? Or were they always wolf furries who are somehow really good at dying? E: VVVVVV  TIME TO WATCH THAT poo poo AGAIN
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Jan 10, 2011 17:37
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Doc Hawkins posted:Something that occurred to me in the shower just now: the prequels spend all this screen time explaining senate politics bullshit and jedi library bullshit and complex betting bullshit, when ANH doesn't even tell us what the gently caress a Bothan is. No idea if there was ever any vision for them, but I think it was just mentioned as a throw away to emphasize the sacrifice involved in the war. In any other war movie, she would have said, "Many people/soldiers/spies died to bring us this information." But this is s sci-fi movie, so they created some sci-fi sounding word, and bam, she's talking about a different species. And since this is Star Wars, a massive back story had to be created for them after that. (Also, and this is nitpicky, but the Bothans comment was in RotJ, not ANH.)
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JediTalentAgent posted:However, I do think that black jumpsuit could be great look for a Jedi of the Republic in a time of war when combined with this Kenobi-in-armor statuette: Too clever by half, sorry. Pack up your poo poo and get the gently caress out, you're fired. (my lucas impersonation)
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