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PateraOctopus posted:Oh my God, it's got an ankh and a morpork. A ... morpork?
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Nilbop posted:A ... morpork? It's a kind of owl. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Boobook
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LooseChanj posted:...I haven't read those books in a while so I'm not sure this is accurate, but if you've got magical film why not make it work like ordinary film instead of being a really fast-drying canvas for tiny demons? Because then you wouldn't get to laugh at the fact that the camera hand-crank was actually rotating whips around to whip the demons to paint faster. MP was not my favorite. Nor was SM. But I've read all except ISWM, and haven't found one I didn't like.
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Lugubrious posted:It's a kind of owl. Well I'll be gawddamned!
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LooseChanj posted:Get a library card, or are you like me and absolutely loath letting a book out of your hands/shelf? Lugubrious posted:He might also be like me and have a library with only two Pratchett books. Yeah, this. I have a library card, but my library (the main library in a city of nearly 200,000 people) has the latest few Pratchett books, and the first few, and almost nothing inbetween. Anyway, they're only €10 each online so I just buy them.
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Monstrous Regiment was terrible upon first read. It got better on the second time, as I could read it for the commentary--war doesn't discriminate; after it kills EVERY male, it'll start with the women too. I think, if the story had been in a place on Discworld the readers were more familiar with, there'd been more emotional investment into the plight. My grandmother, who was a young woman during WW2, told me a similar story; all the young men of her town slowly just vanished until they had streets of just women and old men. That's not something you see in the propaganda from that era, and she described the desolate feeling like "scary but not scary enough to stop life." Mister Roboto fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Nov 5, 2010 |
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At the end of Midnight, I still can't figure out what was going on with Tiffany calling her friends by the words "knave" and "whore". Really, what was up with that? Was that somehow relevant to the Cunning Man?
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I'm about halfway through Nation now and I have to say it's bloody good. Does the pace pick-up at all because it's coasting through at the moment.
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inklesspen posted:At the end of Midnight, I still can't figure out what was going on with Tiffany calling her friends by the words "knave" and "whore". Really, what was up with that? Was that somehow relevant to the Cunning Man? It's a reference to an old military marriage tradition called "jumping the sword." It's a very quick and on-the-fly style of marrying someone. http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Grose-VulgarTongue/l/leaping-over-the-sword.html Mister Roboto fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Dec 7, 2010 |
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Flipswitch posted:I'm about halfway through Nation now and I have to say it's bloody good. Does the pace pick-up at all because it's coasting through at the moment. There are some fine, harrowing action bits yet to come and an interesting finale. I wouldn't worry about the pace too much if you made it through the harsh start without trouble.
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I finished I Shall Wear Midnight and looks like Tiff is all grown up.
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I haven't been able to afford a book in a long rear end time, but christmas is coming up and hopefully I'll get the last couple of Discworld books I haven't read, plus Nation. Can't wait.
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Biplane posted:I haven't been able to afford a book in a long rear end time, but christmas is coming up and hopefully I'll get the last couple of Discworld books I haven't read, plus Nation. Dude I'm sure most libraries have a bunch of them if you're hurting. I'm in the same boat myself right now.
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Mister Roboto posted:It's a reference to an old military marriage tradition called "jumping the sword." It's a very quick and on-the-fly style of marrying someone. It was a real nifty way of doing a marriage and fulfilling the story, without the antagonist working out what the hell happened due to the phrasing.
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Just started reading ISWM and the only part I don't like so far is that Roland is getting married to somebody who isn't Tiffany after two books which frequently dealt with their budding romance.
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-Fish- posted:Just started reading ISWM and the only part I don't like so far is that Roland is getting married to somebody who isn't Tiffany after two books which frequently dealt with their budding romance. Oh man I really wish I hadn't moused over that  I need to stop delaying and read those books past WFM.
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That issue is addressed a bunch of times and it's a believable and real reason as to why things turn out the way they do.
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I know, it's just that it's kind of a letdown for me because seeing the continuation of that thread was one of the things I was most excited about in this book.
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-Fish- posted:I know, it's just that it's kind of a letdown for me because seeing the continuation of that thread was one of the things I was most excited about in this book. But it did continue? In fact, it was a major plot thread through the entire story. Things don't always go the way you expected, a pretty good lesson to learn at that age, too.
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"Leap, knave. Jump, whore." I love that that's copied from reality. It's perfect.
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ThaGhettoJew posted:"Leap, knave. Jump, whore." How many people knew it from Heinlein's Glory Road?
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shadok posted:How many people knew it from Heinlein's Glory Road? I want to say I've heard it in other oldish SF books too, but I can't place it now. I suspect it pops up in old swashbuckling pulps, which a lot of SF is influenced by. http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Grose-VulgarTongue/l/leaping-over-the-sword.html Claims the practice to be at least from 1811. Pretty good pedigree.
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ThaGhettoJew posted:"Leap, knave. Jump, whore." It's one of those expressions that you can tell originated from some overworked dude dealing with some stupidly happy couple that he really just wanted to get away from. "Jump over this sword. You're married, now leave me the hell alone."
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I watched the Color of Magic on Netflix instant the other day and really wasn't impressed. They got a lot right, but what works in the books just felt silly or fell flat on the screen. If anyone wants to watch it, be aware that it expires in just a few days so do it now!
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ConfusedUs posted:I watched the Color of Magic on Netflix instant the other day and really wasn't impressed. They got a lot right, but what works in the books just felt silly or fell flat on the screen. Going Postal is the best Pratchett adaptation so far, aside from the cheap look on the gollum is works really well. The hogfather stands up well too. Apparently Sourcery is the next in line for production. What they need to do is take Stephan Briggs play adaptations and make Guards Guards, then keep the cast to make the entire City Watch set of books.
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I refuse to watch the SKY Adaption of The Colour of Magic simply because of how miscast Rincewind and Twoflower are. Hogfather and Going Postal were much better adaptions, I have a feeling the next one SKY will do will be good too. Nothing will be as hilarious as the Soul Music cartoon though.
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thebardyspoon posted:If the next one Sky does is going to be Sourcery then why would you think it was going to be good? It's going to have David Jason as Rincewind presumably. I was sort of hoping that Colour of Magics viewing figuires barred the man from ever touching a Discworld adaption ever again.
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Flipswitch posted:Did the Colour of Magic do that badly? I'm sure reading or hearing somewhere compared to Hogfather the viewing figuires were much smaller too. SKY didn't promote it as much though as it wasn't ~Christmas~ time.
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I didn't think it was too bad, but my complaints are the same as the thread so I won't repeat them. I thought Hogfather was fantastic though so compared to to that it would have suffered regardless.
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Just getting into these and not about to read 60 pages, but... Are there "working" e-books of Discworld? Like, ones that deal with all the footnotes correctly? For instance, I bought Amazon's edition of Colour of Magic, and it has the first big footnote dealing with Discworld Geography, but none of the others. There HAS to be more than one footnote in that whole first book, doesn't there? I don't have my paper copy on me to chech. Quad fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jan 13, 2011 |
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Quad posted:Are there "working" e-books of Discworld? Like, ones that deal with all the footnotes correctly? The latest, I Shall Wear Midnight, does but I can't say anything about the others. I would have thought if they were putting them out as e-books they'd worry about that, but apparently not.
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Quad posted:Just getting into these and not about to read 60 pages, but... Having read it the other day, I think that it does just have the one footnote.
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I bought and read all the Witches stories on my Kindle, and all the footnotes worked perfectly.
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Mister Roboto posted:Monstrous Regiment was terrible upon first read. I really have to disagree with that. The fact that it was set in a completely new location is one of my favorite parts of that book. It is a very nice reminder that there's more to this world than Ankh'Morpork and Lancre - and a story about the people of that place is better than the "Rincewind stumbles in and makes a mess of things" way of introducing it. Plus, it was a much better location for this kind of story than the existing ones. There's already a book about war from the Ankh'Morpork point of view, and Lancre isn't about to get up to anything as silly as a war. It's a book meant to stand on its own, and I got a decent amount of emotional investment from just what was in it. Pratchett does a very good job of not relying on previous books for things like emotional investment, at any rate. Most of the books (except The Light Fantastic - which is a drat shame, since Cohen alone makes it about fifty times better than The Colour of Magic was) work perfectly fine on their own. It's nice to have the backstory first - but you don't necessarily need it, and, half the time, it works out perfectly well even if you start in the middle of a sub-series (Witch books, Watch books, Death books, etc) and then work your way both backwards and forwards. I like his one-shot books, period. I know a lot of people just want more of whichever their favorite sub-series is - and what's why I think it's so awesome that he doesn't just do that. I really enjoyed Small Gods - and him pulling Moist Von Lipwig out of his hat and conjuring up a whole new sub-series this late in the game is just awesome. Also, as an aside, I kind of... don't like Rincewind or most of the Rincewind books. A few are decent - but in spite of Rincewind, not because of him. Maybe this means I'm not a true Discworld fan, but I was really, really lucky that "Guards! Guards!" was the only Pratchett book the bookstore I went to happened to have - back when I first decided to try it all out. Because I was determined to start at the beginning - and, if I did that, I probably wouldn't have kept going. I read the Colour of Magic a bit later, and, even though I was already convinced that Pratchett was awesome, it really didn't do much for me. The tone awkwardly jumps from the ridiculous to the serious (his later books smoothly shift from the ridiculous to the serious, it is a totally different thing!) The middle really drags, too - mostly because Hrun just isn't an interesting or ridiculous enough character, and, with him on the scene, the line between being a parody of a generic and generically silly fantasy adventure and actually being one gets really blurry. The bad kind of blurry. When the other books blur the line between parody and actual fantasy-adventures, it's the good kind of blurry.
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I was watching that Soul Music cartoon and I was amazed at how well it works. Sure some of the things don't really look right to me, Nobby looking like a human and other things, but it actually works quite well for a Discworld adaptation. I haven't actually read the book though and I doubt it's anywhere close to being as funny as the book but it managed to make me laugh quite a few times which is more then I can say about other Discworld adaptations and probably not very easy to pull of. I love how on the Disc they apparently go straight from Rockabilly to Punk with no other genres in between. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Jan 16, 2011 |
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Blurry Gray Thing posted:I like his one-shot books, period. I know a lot of people just want more of whichever their favorite sub-series is - and what's why I think it's so awesome that he doesn't just do that.
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