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destructo posted:Christ like Cruisin That's either an immaculate troll or something far worse than my mind can comprehend. AVAILABLE ON ITUNES
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^^ - the dude used to be a part of a terrible rap trio like 3 years ago and I can't remember what loving horrible thing he did, but now he's super into jesusdestructo posted:Christ like Cruisin It's called a J-Body for a reason.
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Mutley posted:Fantastic in car video of the Nurburgring from the 1967 F1. Trees lining the course, no crash barriers! It's really bizarre seeing such basic stuff for suspension in old F1 cars. Phone posted:^^ - the dude used to be a part of a terrible rap trio like 3 years ago and I can't remember what loving horrible thing he did, but now he's super into jesus Icy hot stuntaz.
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Since we're talking vintage Nurburgring, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xwc54G2Ur8 Early 70's were not a prime time for automotive safety, and many people still believed it was better to be thrown from the car in a collision.
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Jan 16, 2011 21:28
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einTier posted:Since we're talking vintage Nurburgring, What's the story here? Something on the track? Just looks like a lot of people completely blowing it right there. Either that or it's just a bunch of people going too fast their first day on the track.
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Jan 16, 2011 21:34
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Dave Inc. posted:What's the story here? Something on the track? Just looks like a lot of people completely blowing it right there.
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Jan 16, 2011 21:38
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einTier posted:The Nurburgring is dangerous, cars in the 70's were unsafe, and driver training probably nonexistent. Witch's brew of badness right there. Sounds about right, from a few shots with two cars sliding at the same time it looked like there just had to be some sort of spill on the track. I like the guy in the 914 at 6:20 though, does exactly the right thing when he realizes that he's going too fast for the turn.
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Jan 16, 2011 21:42
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That pavement looks brand new too so I wouldn't be surprised if that was a changed section on top of the other reasons.
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Jan 16, 2011 21:48
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Dave Inc. posted:What's the story here? Something on the track? Just looks like a lot of people completely blowing it right there. Most of the footage is on the same S-turn -which is at the end of a long strait- that I always forget is there and wreck on in Forza 3 
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Jan 16, 2011 21:51
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The Casualty posted:Most of the footage is on the same S-turn -which is at the end of a long strait- that I always forget is there and wreck on in Forza 3 I was thinking it was the chicane immediately after the fox-hole. So hard to tell since I've never seen the track from that angle.
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Jan 16, 2011 21:56
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I like how all of the beetle drivers have backseats full of garbage that turn into projectiles when they invariably tip over.
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Jan 16, 2011 22:13
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I like the second car from the start - it's pretty clear he's taking the whole family for a spin. There's a blond haired kid in the back.
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Jan 16, 2011 22:18
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it's awful how many dudes fly into the sand trap and instead of just stopping think I GOT THIS, BITCHES COME and then loving roll over trying to get back onto the track
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Dave Inc. posted:What's the story here? Something on the track? Just looks like a lot of people completely blowing it right there. That turn is coming uphill into a left that doesn't look as sharp as it is. Once they get to it they see that its pretty tight and they're going too fast for it. Also, holy poo poo the convertible beetle with 4 people in it, that could have been bad. Its the turn here at 2:45. You can kind of see how it looks more of a shallow turn due to the crown of the road, but once you go up it you see the outer edge almost perpendicular to you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWjMvrkUqX0&t=164s Ah better example here at 2:00. See one car in front of the guy nearly lose it at the turn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkDG1E64s1c&t=120s Longpig Bard fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Jan 17, 2011 |
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Scrambles posted:it's awful how many dudes fly into the sand trap and instead of just stopping think I GOT THIS, BITCHES COME and then loving roll over trying to get back onto the track The guy at 6:20 shows exactly how it should be done. It's not showy, it's not flashy, and he loses a lot of time, but he also stays upright and suffers zero real damage to the vehicle. I might cut this video to show at future track days. The corner is Adenauer Forst, by the way. It's about a third of the way around the Nordschleife. [edit] The car at 0:28 is particularly terrifying. The girl hangs halfway out of the window, obviously hits her head on the pavement and just stays there limply until the driver pulls her back inside the car. I'm pretty sure she wasn't ok. einTier fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Jan 17, 2011 |
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einTier posted:[edit]   She also hits her head on the the door frame as she's getting pulled in.
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I find it shocking that people didn't see an obvious advantage to seatbelts even besides the fact that they keep you in the car in the event of accident -- namely, that when you take a very tight corner fast they keep you in front of the steering wheel.
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Jan 17, 2011 19:07
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how about a 917 that hasn't been started in 30 years ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU0r99fyD0U&feature=related and how about a 20 part series of restoring said 917 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaUHZQoG2BY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
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Blinky Blinkerson posted:how about a 917 that hasn't been started in 30 years ? Dat exhaust note.
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el topo posted:I find it shocking that people didn't see an obvious advantage to seatbelts even besides the fact that they keep you in the car in the event of accident -- namely, that when you take a very tight corner fast they keep you in front of the steering wheel. Im old, and I remember those days. Things were different. People drive differently now, and think differently now. Back then you expected that you would not get in an accident, and a seatbelt was unnecessary and a hassle, heck they will wrinkle your clothes too (back then respectable people had to iron their clothes). It sounds pretty stupid these days, but it is true that folks would refuse to wear a seatbelt because they didnt want to wrinkle their clothes. I remember the time my baby sitters (when I was like 5 years old) face hit the windshield in a low speed impact (2 cars making left turns in an intersection). She said said she didnt want her dress to get wrinkled, and did not put her seatbelt on, and her face put a crack in the windshield of my moms corvair. Peoples perceptions were different, and people behaved differently, and cars are a lot less dangerous now.
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el topo posted:I find it shocking that people didn't see an obvious advantage to seatbelts even besides the fact that they keep you in the car in the event of accident I still have trouble convincing my backseat passengers of this.
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hippynerd posted:Im old, and I remember those days. Things were different. People drive differently now, and think differently now. Back then you expected that you would not get in an accident, and a seatbelt was unnecessary and a hassle, heck they will wrinkle your clothes too (back then respectable people had to iron their clothes). Yup - also a lot of drivers in those days (and some stupid ones now) take the passenger putting on a seatbelt as an insult to their driving ability, so people didn't wear seatbelts so they wouldn't insult the driver.
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new mustang 5.0-powered Cobra kit car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSlHi7b0rwk
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hippynerd posted:I remember the time my baby sitters (when I was like 5 years old) face hit the windshield in a low speed impact (2 cars making left turns in an intersection). She said said she didnt want her dress to get wrinkled, and did not put her seatbelt on, and her face put a crack in the windshield of my moms corvair. That happened to me once. Well, not the dress part. Didn't feel a thing, then or later.
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Jvs_NZ posted:Yup - also a lot of drivers in those days (and some stupid ones now) take the passenger putting on a seatbelt as an insult to their driving ability, so people didn't wear seatbelts so they wouldn't insult the driver. I knew a guy like that once. He didn't think it mattered that he had totalled his BMW twice in 5 years.
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Jvs_NZ posted:Yup - also a lot of drivers in those days (and some stupid ones now) take the passenger putting on a seatbelt as an insult to their driving ability, so people didn't wear seatbelts so they wouldn't insult the driver. It's ridiculous what stupid lengths people will go to in order to avoid bruising someones overinflated ego and imagined sense of self-worth. My car does not move an inch until everyone is buckled up, even if I'm not driving it myself. If anyone tries to complain they can STFU and buckle up or get out and walk. My dad didn't wear a seatbelt for a long long time. When I was about 12 I started bugging him about it every single time we drove somewhere, but it took a heart attack and a brain tumor for him to come face to face with mortality and finally buckle up by himself.
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My cousin has the same stupid "seatbelts kill people" idea. I thought he was joking when he first said it but nope, that's what he believes.
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The Third Man posted:new mustang 5.0-powered Cobra kit car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSlHi7b0rwk The best feeling in the world is setting off a car alarm with your exhaust note 
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Clank posted:My cousin has the same stupid "seatbelts kill people" idea. I thought he was joking when he first said it but nope, that's what he believes. I distinctly remember one of the seat belt ads of my youth trying to dispel this notion that it was better to be thrown.
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einTier posted:There was also this idea that seatbelts tended to lock up after a collision and trap you in the car. Many people I knew said something along the lines of, "I'd much rather be thrown from the car in a collision. I don't want to be trapped in it and burn to death." I know of one situation where it was better to be thrown. In this case The person thrown from the vehicle (at 70mph) got a few scrapes, but nothing serious. The passenger was pouring himself a shot of moonshine from a jug, and was slouching in the seat (but wearing the seatbelt). The driver did not have any idea how he left the vehicle, he thinks the window was up, but cant remember for certain, as he was drunk at the time. The passenger stayed with the vehicle, but because he was slouching in his seat, the seatbelt dug up under his ribs, and bruised his liver and or other internal organs. The driver recovered in a couple days, the passenger recovered, but was bed ridden for several months after the accident.
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hippynerd posted:I know of one situation where it was better to be thrown. In this case The person thrown from the vehicle (at 70mph) got a few scrapes, but nothing serious. The passenger was pouring himself a shot of moonshine from a jug, and was slouching in the seat (but wearing the seatbelt). The driver did not have any idea how he left the vehicle, he thinks the window was up, but cant remember for certain, as he was drunk at the time. The passenger stayed with the vehicle, but because he was slouching in his seat, the seatbelt dug up under his ribs, and bruised his liver and or other internal organs. The driver recovered in a couple days, the passenger recovered, but was bed ridden for several months after the accident. Clearly the problem here was the seatbelt. Clearly.
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hippynerd posted:I know of one situation where it was better to be thrown. In this case The person thrown from the vehicle (at 70mph) got a few scrapes, but nothing serious. The passenger was pouring himself a shot of moonshine from a jug, and was slouching in the seat (but wearing the seatbelt). The driver did not have any idea how he left the vehicle, he thinks the window was up, but cant remember for certain, as he was drunk at the time. The passenger stayed with the vehicle, but because he was slouching in his seat, the seatbelt dug up under his ribs, and bruised his liver and or other internal organs. The driver recovered in a couple days, the passenger recovered, but was bed ridden for several months after the accident. I'm sure if we spent enough time, we could come up with dozens of examples just like this one. At the same time, if we spent the same amount of time coming up with examples where the inverse was true -- it's a good thing they were wearing their seat belt -- we'll come up with thousands, if not tens or hundreds of thousands.
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A smart friend in high school claimed that seat belts were redundant because of the airbag. Failing, of course, to note that the seatbelt prevents your face/body from slamming into the steering wheel at the instant that the airbag shoots out.
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einTier posted:And these are exactly the kinds of accidents where people said, "see, it's better to not wear a seat belt." Oh, its pretty rare that you are better off w/out the seatbelt. This was the only time I've ever heard of anyone being better off w/out the seatbelt. I've heard other arguments, but even in those situations, without the seatbelt on, you would be dead or injured beyond ability to extract yourself from the vehicle. The best one I've heard was "Ice Road Truckers" and I have to say I'd have to reconsider wearing the seatbelt, if I was the only one on the road, and the road was likely to open up into a watery grave.
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Plus, they go like 40 mph tops.
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It helps that in a hugely heavy vehicle, you're going to experience a lot less force hitting a 1.5 ton car than if you're also in a 1.5 ton car. I'm guessing a lot of semi vs car accidents, the driver of the semi is probably feeling a lot better than the guy in the car.
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The Third Man posted:new mustang 5.0-powered Cobra kit car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSlHi7b0rwk don't mind the moonspeak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgU023Yxy5s there's a full article on this car in the most recent Hot Rod
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Related video has the most accurate title I've seen on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K69TcoMCKhw
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hippynerd posted:The passenger stayed with the vehicle, but because he was slouching in his seat, the seatbelt dug up under his ribs, and bruised his liver and or other internal organs. Probably no more than if he got a shot of that moonshine.
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Uthor posted:Probably no more than if he got a shot of that moonshine. Oh, he got a shot of that moonshine alright. It was a gallon jug, he had many shots to the liver that night.
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