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Decius posted:Although calling the stuff the Jedis wear in the PT uniform is a bit much anyway, since everyone wears very different style of robes. I don't see why they would necessarily all wear the same color/style of robes. There's nothing in the Jedi code barring individuality, after all.
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I think it's just religious icons, in a lot of religions all members of the clergy dress the same, with slight adjustments befitting "rank". It's not true of all religions but it makes sense. While them wearing robes into combat is stupid, I dont think it's a valid point for them not wearing them the rest of the time.
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feedmyleg posted:Well I don't think you're going to make much money as a moisture farmer on the Mon Calamari homeworld. If you can make a reasonable amount of money selling 'moisture' on a desert planet why didn't Han Solo just pay Jabba back in bottled water he picked up from the Mon Calamari homeworld. A couple of jumps, fill up the falcon with cargo and jump back. Boom instant millionare.
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Probably because Jabba is an inter-planetary thug, and water is basically worthless on any other world. There's nothing like the feel of cold hard coin in your flabby, sliming mit.RagnarokAngel posted:I think it's just religious icons, in a lot of religions all members of the clergy dress the same, with slight adjustments befitting "rank". It's not true of all religions but it makes sense.
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KaneOfNod posted:The real estate's cheaper and taxes are lower near the Jundland Wastes compared Mos Eisley. Of course, there is the Tusken Raider problem. Also the Wamprat problem. Which wasn't really a problem until someone in the EU decided that Luke was a monster for killing poor defenseless Wamprats and then wrote a book that mentions how there are several different species of Wamprats and the one that Luke shot were so out of control and such a menace that the Governor/Mayor/whoever put out a bounty on Jundland Waste Wamprats of a couple credits a head, so Luke continues to be a hero instead of a future serial killer.
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Locutus Of Bored posted:Also the Wamprat problem. Which wasn't really a problem until someone in the EU decided that Luke was a monster for killing poor defenseless Wamprats and then wrote a book that mentions how there are several different species of Wamprats and the one that Luke shot were so out of control and such a menace that the Governor/Mayor/whoever put out a bounty on Jundland Waste Wamprats of a couple credits a head, so Luke continues to be a hero instead of a future serial killer. You have got to be making GBS threads me. Who wrote this?
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Locutus Of Bored posted:Also the Wamprat problem. Which wasn't really a problem until someone in the EU decided that Luke was a monster for killing poor defenseless Wamprats and then wrote a book that mentions how there are several different species of Wamprats and the one that Luke shot were so out of control and such a menace that the Governor/Mayor/whoever put out a bounty on Jundland Waste Wamprats of a couple credits a head, so Luke continues to be a hero instead of a future serial killer. I prefer the Family Guy justification, to be honest: "There's two suns and no women!"
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The Neal! posted:If you can make a reasonable amount of money selling 'moisture' on a desert planet why didn't Han Solo just pay Jabba back in bottled water he picked up from the Mon Calamari homeworld. A couple of jumps, fill up the falcon with cargo and jump back. Boom instant millionare.
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Jan 17, 2011 16:26
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Plus knowing the state of the Falcon, it would have just all leaked out after a couple of parsecs into space.
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Slantedfloors posted:Han's debt is implied to be absolutely massive (like, equivalent to tens of millions of dollars), I don't think water is going to cut it in the time he had. I think a real world approximation was that Han dumped hundreds of kilos of Cocaine because he thought the heat was on.
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The Neal! posted:If you can make a reasonable amount of money selling 'moisture' on a desert planet why didn't Han Solo just pay Jabba back in bottled water he picked up from the Mon Calamari homeworld. A couple of jumps, fill up the falcon with cargo and jump back. Boom instant millionare. Even in Las Vegas, water is only a tiny fraction of a cent per gallon. It's valuable in large quantities. Not that Star Wars is hard science fiction that worries about this sort of thing, but presumably Owen would have a pipeline run to the Mos Eisely municipal supply and would make his profit from the bulk sale of millions of gallons.
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:I think a real world approximation was that Han dumped hundreds of kilos of Cocaine because he thought the heat was on. Yeah, water ain't gonna cover that poo poo.
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Jan 17, 2011 17:33
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Has Lucas still not retconned the fact that Han Solo was a narcotics smuggler?
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LLJKSiLk posted:Has Lucas still not retconned the fact that Han Solo was a narcotics smuggler? In the movies it's never said what he's carried. Sure it's implied to be shifty but it's never said what it was. Lucas honestly doesn't care about anything below his canon (Basically the movies and the clone wars TV series), anytime he "steps on it" is by accident, not deliberate, and he just picks and chooses names like Coruscant. Also read the title.
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No matter how you spin it, he smuggled illegal poo poo. Illegal enough that he had to dump it, or for that matter make modifications to hide things on his ship in floorboards, etc. That, my friends, is why he's a badass. He's not a cookie cutter good guy or a cookie cutter bad guy. He's straight up a good bad guy (depending on your point of view  ).
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I think 'Chaotic Neutral' would fit best. Whatever gets him the best outcome. Why am I such a huge nerd?
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Well it's something considered illegal by the evil freedom and happiness hating Empire. It could have been a shipment of puppies. Jabba the Hut ran a cuddly baby animal cartel.
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Locutus Of Bored posted:Also the Wamprat problem. I brought up those facts before along with this one. quote:Womp Rats were also very fast and stealthy. They could have had the ability to cloak themselves with the Force since Ki Adi Mundi and Aurra Sing both found out that they could barely sense them with the Force aiding them. Womp Rats - force sensitive semi confirmed  Han Solo may be the only creature / person in the entire universe not force sensitive. dialhforhero posted:No matter how you spin it, he smuggled illegal poo poo. Illegal enough that he had to dump it, or for that matter make modifications to hide things on his ship in floorboards, etc. quote:While in the Corporate Sector, the Falcon was damaged after Solo and Chewbacca attempted smuggling weapons to insurgents on Duroon. quote:After a disastrous incident on Kamar, where Solo and Chewbacca accidentally began a religion (the Cult of Varn) before having to flee with their lives, they returned to the Corporate Sector quote:Glitterstim played a key role in convincing Bria Tharen to abandon her religious life on Ylesia. She was given a vial of the drug by Han Solo What is the deal with the Star Wars KOTOR MMO? When is it coming out and how much have they spent on it already? AcridWhistle fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jan 18, 2011 |
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AcridWhistle posted:Han Solo may be the only creature / person in the entire universe not force sensitive. I think one of the first West End Games RPG guides from the late 80s had it so that people like Han Solo and Wedge, while not being Force sensitive as the modern EU would have it, still had some underlying connection with the Force to explain how they were so lucky. But this was back before the modern EU and notions of Jedi when the Force was still an innate mystical thing that anyone could access if they tried hard enough and could meditate/study it deeply enough, rather than an X-Men-like genetic trait as it became in the 90s.
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AcridWhistle posted:What is the deal with the Star Wars KOTOR MMO? When is it coming out and how much have they spent on it already?
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dialhforhero posted:No matter how you spin it, he smuggled illegal poo poo. Illegal enough that he had to dump it, or for that matter make modifications to hide things on his ship in floorboards, etc. That, my friends, is why he's a badass. He's not a cookie cutter good guy or a cookie cutter bad guy. He's straight up a good bad guy (depending on your point of view The proper term is antihero. His heart is always in the right place though, usually. That's why Chewie is there, to give him gruff hard knock advice and make sure he stays clean. Casimir Radon posted:I don't think anyone knows, and tons of money, possibly more than Avatar cost. I personally hope it crashes and burns so they won't try it again. It really sucks that a company that was founded in 1983, didn't make a bad game until 1997, but now struggles to make a good game. Not to white knight for Old Republic but the budget approximation is mostly slander from a disgruntled former EA employee who wasn't even in the same division and attached to projects that had no overlap. Most of the silence surrounding the game is due to the paranoia that Blizzard will steal their ideas. I don't think EA or Lucasfilm would invest that much money in the project either considering how Warhammer Online and Star Wars Galaxies turned out. EDIT: The division making Old Republic has never made any games before so that shows how much EA cares as well. Not exactly the type of operation you pump Avatar or even Blizzard money into. RocknRollaAyatollah fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jan 18, 2011 |
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I still think it's a horrible waste. The whole MMO market seems like it's going to collapse and yet they keep developing the loving things instead of more worthwhile pursuits.
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Casimir Radon posted:I still think it's a horrible waste. The whole MMO market seems like it's going to collapse and yet they keep developing the loving things instead of more worthwhile pursuits. Was there ever an explanation given for why we're getting a MMO instead of KOTOR 3 besides gently caress-yeah-subscriptions-cash-money?
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Der Luftwaffle posted:Was there ever an explanation given for why we're getting a MMO instead of KOTOR 3 besides gently caress-yeah-subscriptions-cash-money?
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^^ KotOR 2 was an uinpolished gem. I'm not going to start slinging blame for the bugs and lack of ending, but had they been sorted before it was released, I think it'd have done better than the first one.AcridWhistle posted:What is the deal with the Star Wars KOTOR MMO? When is it coming out and how much have they spent on it already? In terms of cash, Bioware set up and staffed a whole new studio branch to make the game, have been at it for 2-3 years already, and will be developing it for at least another year on top of that. The team looks to be Bioware's top brass, along with some 'seasoned MMO devs' plus all the other artists, programers, etc. It's safe to say that it's a pretty drat big budget. Der Luftwaffle posted:Was there ever an explanation given for why we're getting a MMO instead of KOTOR 3 besides gently caress-yeah-subscriptions-cash-money? quote:We're not just making KotOR 3, we're making KotOR 4 through 9 as well.
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Bene Elim posted:There's basically no chance of this being free-to-play, which is a shame. I'd probably play it otherwise. That's not true at all. Many American MMORPGs are starting to lean towards being free with microtransactions for premium content. It might not happen immediately but it probably will when it's not the WoW killer they hope it will be. The reason why they won't make KotOR3 or any of the other games we want is because Lucasfilm and Lucasarts are run by visionless money men. They have their eyes on the holy grail of the gaming industry but only Blizzard has obtained it. The only thing Lucasarts thinks sells as a property is Lego Star Wars. This might possibly be influenced by their inability to sell off cheap sequels to other properties, like the Dark Forces series, but they need to come up with something new instead of more awful "lightsaber combat" motion control games and Lego Star Wars.
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I'd really go for a new current gen space flight/combat simulator. The closest we have at the moment is the awful space sections from battlefront 2 without going all the way back to X-Wing and TieFighter. From a financial standpoint I think this makes sense. They could get Star Wars, Flight Sim and action game markets, it'd translate well onto console, AND it'd be their favourite thing; a re-make! Bene Elim fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Jan 18, 2011 |
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While not strictly a question or anything, I thought these videos are a bit of a laugh and might provide a talking point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XczClAxhCEM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18O-Rj2MP9Q Non disclosure agreement?
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Actors actually tend to forget a lot of stuff they did so I don't think it's like that. Many hollywood actors have to shoot a scene a ton of times (And then move onto another scene and repeat that till the movies done, possibly more), and often under high stress conditions like little sleep. Add in that this was almost 30 years ago I don't blame him for forgetting a scene that didn't make it into the movie. Before Fallout 3 came out somebody at comic-con or some convention asked Ron Perlman to say the "the line" from Fallout and he says "Kid what the hell are you talking about?"
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I'll never play an MMO, even if they do change the financial model to cut cost. They're still a huge timesink and I have enough trouble keeping on task. RagnarokAngel posted:Before Fallout 3 came out somebody at comic-con or some convention asked Ron Perlman to say the "the line" from Fallout and he says "Kid what the hell are you talking about?"
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Honestly I seriously think TOR will be different, all the previews point to it being a KOTOR game with multiplayer. It's very story and cutscene based, with no grinding of quests.
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Der Luftwaffle posted:Was there ever an explanation given for why we're getting a MMO instead of KOTOR 3 besides gently caress-yeah-subscriptions-cash-money? KOTOR 3 was actually in development for a time, before being canceled: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic_3 Basically the reason we never saw KOTOR 3 was because LucasArts was going through yet another management crisis. mango sentinel posted:Is KOTOR 2 not reason enough? Even in its unfinished state, I still think that KOTOR 2 is better than KOTOR 1.  Which is not to say that I dislike KOTOR 1, it's a great game no question, just that I think KOTOR 2 is that much better. Honestly the only thing that really bugs me about KOTOR 2 is that the opening part on Peragus is waaaaay too long. But after that I really don't think I have any complaints.
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I enjoy the darkness in KOTOR 2, It and Empire Strikes Back seem to be the only things in Star Wars that know how to grim atmosphere right without going over the top and killing billions of people.
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I love the way KotOR II manages subtle evil, over cartoony ridiculousness, yet still finds space for two means of planetary destruction. Kreia is without a doubt one of the best characters I've ever come across in Star Wars.
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What could possibly be the reason why Lucasarts has been in perpetual chaos for the last half decade? You would think that the Star Wars name was license to print money.
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My guess: A mix of the prequels causing Star Wars popularity to take a bit of a hit, especially in the age range of people who would be buying video games; the people who grew up in the golden age of LucasArts now growing older and buying fewer games; and people getting tired of lovely prequel tie-in games, especially with LucasArts pretty much dropping all other properties to focus exclusively on Star Wars. I mean, back in the day they'd have Day of the Tentacle and Monkey Island alongside high-quality Star Wars games like Rogue Squadron; after the Phantom Menace came out though all LucasArts put out was like a dozen podracing games.
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Chairman Capone posted:all LucasArts put out was like a dozen podracing games. God, we should be so lucky.
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Yeah I was about to say, Episode I Racer was the poo poo. How did you not like that game?
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:Most of the silence surrounding the game is due to the paranoia that Blizzard will steal their ideas.  That will happen anyway. Stealing other games' ideas and (usually) improving on them is what Blizzard does. Bene Elim posted:I'd really go for a new current gen space flight/combat simulator. The closest we have at the moment is the awful space sections from battlefront 2 without going all the way back to X-Wing and TieFighter. Hell, they wouldn't even have to do anything new, would they? Release X-Wing and TIE Fighter (and maybe XW vs TF I guess, I dunno) on a modern engine and they'd have a popular game on their hands.
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Bene Elim posted:I'd really go for a new current gen space flight/combat simulator. The closest we have at the moment is the awful space sections from battlefront 2 without going all the way back to X-Wing and TieFighter. Agreed. I loved Rouge Squadron I and II but they were more like arcadey Star Fox games than flight sims. The only Star Wars game I would care to get at this point would be the "definitive" flight sim. More realistic than Rogue Squadron, all the major movie battles and then some, large selection of fighters, both Rebel and Empire campaigns. I'd still probably even love a Rouge Squadron IV. I really couldn't care less about another KOTOR or MMO or Force Unleashed or anything based on the Clone Wars. I could not give two shits about waving a lightsaber around, I wanna fly X-Wings.
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