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El Duke posted:He had a try-out match, I didn't hear about anything further. I don't know why the idea of trying out for TNA is so humorous for me.
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Hockles posted:I don't know why the idea of trying out for TNA is so humorous for me. Here's why: They make the wrestlers trying out fly themselves to Orlando and pay for their own hotel room.
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El Duke posted:For awhile, Bischoff and crew were finalizing the show minutes before it went to air. Bischoff also called a few audibles during his tenure; he'd make a change to the schedule while they were on the air in order to counter something Vince was doing on nights Raw was live.
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tzirean posted:Bischoff also called a few audibles during his tenure; he'd make a change to the schedule while they were on the air in order to counter something Vince was doing on nights Raw was live. Was it actually a thing where Hogan made fun of a dirtsheet on the air for writing up what was happening because they had it wrong.... only the reason they were "wrong" is because they were right and Bischoff quickly changed what was happening to something that was terrible and made no sense just to prove the dirtsheets wrong? Or is that just an urban legend?
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Jerusalem posted:Was it actually a thing where Hogan made fun of a dirtsheet on the air for writing up what was happening because they had it wrong.... only the reason they were "wrong" is because they were right and Bischoff quickly changed what was happening to something that was terrible and made no sense just to prove the dirtsheets wrong? Or is that just an urban legend? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1As4UVCkkKk I believe Macho was injured, as per an Observer report, and Hogan claimed he wasn't. This is also the origin of "The internet's got the scoops, brother!" Name Change fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Jan 25, 2011 |
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1As4UVCkkKk So of course during Macho's match he comes out with his arm visibly injured, and that plays into the match despite Hogan's claims Macho wasn't hurt.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1As4UVCkkKk Basically, Hogan claimed that Savage wasn't injured (which he obviously was) and that they'd worked everyone, including the dirtsheets, who had claimed that Savage was injured and wouldn't win World War III because of it, and instead the Giant would win. Of course, the Observer said that Savage was going to win WW3 anyway (which he did) so Hogan just lied to make it look like the Observer was full of poo poo.
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Has anyone besides Low Ki really used TNA as a stepping stone to get to the WWE?
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Tyma posted:Has anyone besides Low Ki really used TNA as a stepping stone to get to the WWE? Hopefully she will do better but Awesome Kong.
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Tyma posted:Has anyone besides Low Ki really used TNA as a stepping stone to get to the WWE? Christian 
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Tyma posted:Has anyone besides Low Ki really used TNA as a stepping stone to get to the WWE? You could argue that Chris Harris and Lance Hoyt would never have captured WWE's eye if they hadn't been active wrestlers in TNA, I guess.
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Tyma posted:Has anyone besides Low Ki really used TNA as a stepping stone to get to the WWE? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwyFABQX62A
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Tyma posted:Has anyone besides Low Ki really used TNA as a stepping stone to get to the WWE? "The Alpha Male" Monty Brown (Marcus Cor Von). I miss the Down With The Sickness theme he had in TNA. Very WCW-esque.
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I have a wrestling question. At the start of the catchphrase reel at the beginning of the show theres a clip of a black and white old timey looking match. Does anyone know who is working in that match?
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I think it's the famous Caddock/Stecher match from MSG which is considered the oldest pro wrestling film still in existence but I'm not 100% sure. Dave and Bryan have discussed it on Observer Radio at some point or another.
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jeffersonlives posted:I think it's the famous Caddock/Stecher match from MSG which is considered the oldest pro wrestling film still in existence but I'm not 100% sure. Dave and Bryan have discussed it on Observer Radio at some point or another. Watching that match on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQl6mmAtkbE for anyone interested) it doesnt seem to be it. The intro one seems to have some kind of colliseum background whereas Caddock/Stecher is more a haze.
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jeffersonlives posted:I think it's the famous Caddock/Stecher match from MSG which is considered the oldest pro wrestling film still in existence but I'm not 100% sure. Dave and Bryan have discussed it on Observer Radio at some point or another. I vaguely remember Karl Stern saying it was even older, from 1908. I think the Caddock/Stecher footage is the second grainy footage shown, while the first (from the lower camera angle) is from 1908. I can't remember who is in it. I am almost positive it is not Caddock/Stecher as it doesn't look like the footage from that match I have seen.
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MassRayPer posted:I vaguely remember Karl Stern saying it was even older, from 1908. I think the Caddock/Stecher footage is the second grainy footage shown, while the first (from the lower camera angle) is from 1908. I can't remember who is in it. That sounds about right. So the answer is basically "e-mail Dave or Karl Stern."
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MrMondayNight posted:Watching that match on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQl6mmAtkbE for anyone interested) it doesnt seem to be it. The intro one seems to have some kind of colliseum background whereas Caddock/Stecher is more a haze. The match seems to end with both wrestlers and the referee merging into one single, blurry entity, and wriggling around in the corner of the ring. Russo 
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jeffersonlives posted:That sounds about right. So the answer is basically "e-mail Dave or Karl Stern." I assume I have to be a member for that and alas I am not. The search continues!
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MrMondayNight posted:I assume I have to be a member for that and alas I am not. The search continues! Nope, you can find his contact info here: http://www.karlstern.com/ So email him or tweet him or something. I imagine he'll reply. I'm going to take a quick look through some of his newsletters on the Observer site myself as I want to remember. I believe the footage is in the WWE vault and has never been leaked to the public other than that clip.
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MassRayPer posted:Nope, you can find his contact info here: http://www.karlstern.com/ So email him or tweet him or something. I imagine he'll reply. I'm going to take a quick look through some of his newsletters on the Observer site myself as I want to remember. Well I've sent him an email so hopefully I'll get an answer soon. I'll put it up here if I do incase you havent found it in the newsletters yet 
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Bald-n-Nekkid posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwyFABQX62A Somebody with an at least partially working microphone should redo this. He's just reading off of that poster someone made.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Alot of the time I think it was just their way of trying to get people to watch Thunder and making them think that they were 'missing something' that they'd have to tune in for later to see. I remember being hooked by that alot during the time and when Thunder would come up they'd mention what happened that you've already seen but not show the viewer or talk about additional things that happened when they were off the air. WCW would make it sound like they were gonna show you or tell you about whatever wacky event they made you think happened after the show went off and then 'welp, some stuff happend on Nitro lets talk about Hulk Hogan for two hours even though he wont appear on this show because its beneath him!" at the beginning of Thunder. Well them and the father of a kid I went to primary (elementary) school with who seemed like more of a mark than any kid in retrospect. However this man also collected Poke'mon cards or any other fad aimed at children that was going around and was convinced Lylat Wars on N64 was one of the most challenging games in existence. Beer_Suitcase posted:Does anyone else watch AWA on ESPN Classics? Tyma posted:The match seems to end with both wrestlers and the referee merging into one single, blurry entity, and wriggling around in the corner of the ring. Russo tackles the philosophical implications of quantum physics. It doesn't matter who has the belt, because everyone is champion as all matter is part of a unified field on a quantum level.  Anyway. So how do people access FCW material? Sue Denim fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Jan 25, 2011 |
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Some guy records the shows and then puts them on the internet.Karl Ontario posted:Wasn't CM Punk in TNA for a time? I know his work in ROH is what really got him noticed, but I'm sure the small time he spent in TNA didn't hurt. Yeah but that would be back when they were doing Weekly PPVs and it wasn't like he was on every show. He left the company early 2004. HulkaMatt fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Jan 25, 2011 |
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Sue Denim posted:So how do people access FCW material? Most full episodes are on Youtube. It's only aired in Florida, and everyone seems completely cool with it being watched on Youtube.
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Thanks Hulkamatt. One more question: When did people outside the industry become knowledgeable of Hogan's true character, in relation to the egotism, lying, exaggerating and politicking? Sue Denim fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jan 25, 2011 |
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Question about an old angle that I remember vaguely: On the Raw where Mick Foley won the title ("that'll put butts in seats"), there was a brief segment where Shawn Michaels was found unconscious in the back. The implication seemed to be that dX (face faction at the time) had sold him out, but the focus of the show quickly shifted to the Rock/Mankind title match, and later Austin's return. Was that meant to foreshadow some kind of heel turn for dX, or perhaps an earlier return to the ring for HBK that didn't pan out? I guess the most likely answer is that it was a Russo red herring, but I was curious.
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:"The Alpha Male" Monty Brown (Marcus Cor Von). I miss the Down With The Sickness theme he had in TNA. Very WCW-esque.
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Minidust posted:Question about an old angle that I remember vaguely: On the Raw where Mick Foley won the title ("that'll put butts in seats"), there was a brief segment where Shawn Michaels was found unconscious in the back. The implication seemed to be that dX (face faction at the time) had sold him out, but the focus of the show quickly shifted to the Rock/Mankind title match, and later Austin's return. Was that meant to foreshadow some kind of heel turn for dX, or perhaps an earlier return to the ring for HBK that didn't pan out? I guess the most likely answer is that it was a Russo red herring, but I was curious. One word: Somas.
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Minidust posted:Question about an old angle that I remember vaguely: On the Raw where Mick Foley won the title ("that'll put butts in seats"), there was a brief segment where Shawn Michaels was found unconscious in the back. The implication seemed to be that dX (face faction at the time) had sold him out, but the focus of the show quickly shifted to the Rock/Mankind title match, and later Austin's return. Was that meant to foreshadow some kind of heel turn for dX, or perhaps an earlier return to the ring for HBK that didn't pan out? I guess the most likely answer is that it was a Russo red herring, but I was curious. Do you mean the time he was found face down on a windscreen all smashed up? Or are they two seperate attacks?
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MisterGBH posted:Do you mean the time he was found face down on a windscreen all smashed up? Or are they two seperate attacks?
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Tyma posted:Has anyone besides Low Ki really used TNA as a stepping stone to get to the WWE? Tenacious Z?
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Why did it take so long for Booker T and RVD to become world champions? Both were super over and some of the hardest workers to ever step in the ring, which is why its puzzling.
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Minidust posted:Separate attack, but now that I've looked up a recap of that Raw it seems like they actually showed the Corporation attack Shawn. I think Shawn had just turned face in his non-wrestling commissioner role, and briefly re-aligned with dX. After he was attacked, I suspected dX of selling him out to the corporation, but I don't remember if there was any onscreen evidence of this or if my young mark self just had a very active imagination. If I recall correctly, Shawn turned face and allied himself with DX and made a match that favoured them (or something to that effect), but was then found unconscious. Then later, DX are seen making comments to the effect that they just used HBK to get something out of him, and that they gave no shits that he'd been attacked and made no effort to help him because they hadn't forgiven him for when he turned heel on them in the first place and joined the corporation. So, they didn't really sell him out, they just used him and didn't give a poo poo when he got attacked. That's how I remember it anyway.
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Writer Cath posted:When there is a mystery in WWE, it's usually Rikishi
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ColeM posted:Why did it take so long for Booker T and RVD to become world champions? Both were super over and some of the hardest workers to ever step in the ring, which is why its puzzling. In RVD's case I can only assume it was something to do with his heavy drug use since they actually made a point of acknowledging how over he was when he first showed up in WWE. As for Booker T, I really don't know why it took them so long, he was one of the shining lights at the end of WCW and came into WWE as the WCW Champion, but once he lost the title to the Rock he was pretty much out of the title scene for like 5 years.
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