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HoldYourFire
Oct 16, 2006

What's the time? It's DEFCON 1!

Baron von Eevl posted:

How many loving characters named Red can you have in one movie? One is too many if you ask me.

Obviously you haven't seen Hell Drivers. :colbert:

Edit for image snipe:

HoldYourFire fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jan 25, 2011

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Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

morestuff posted:

"Should I buy an iPad?" Charlie wonders. "No, I probably can't afford one right now."

2. INT. CHARLIE'S CAR - EXPRESSWAY - DAY

Charlie taps his steering wheel to the beat of a Philip Glass symphony and considers his mortgage situation.

As a side note, Glass's Orion is all sorts of incredible. I got it for Christmas and it's rarely left my stereo.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice
3. INT. CHARLIE'S OFFICE - A SMALL CUBICLE - DAY

Charlie sits at his desk and checks his email. He has received his monthly water bill and an ad for discount viagra. He ponders each email equally and files both for later consideration and gets to work on the expenditures spreadsheet for last month.

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA
My girlfriend hates good movies :(:(:(

What are bad movies that I might like to watch with her? She loves romantic comedies.

She doesn't want to see anything with diCaprio for absolutely no reason, she scoffs at animated movies, she thought Pulp Fiction was long and boring and she thought Shawshank Redemption was stupid. She refuses anything fantasy or sci-fi, having seen ten minutes of Lord of the Ring and twelve of Alien. Horror is horrible and anything with a deeper meening goes right past her :(

Help me find a good movie disguised as a horrible lovely movie she would like!

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole

4. CHARLIE'S COMPUTER SCREEN

Charlie types "vapid oval office" on his keyboard, and clicks the "Submit Reply" button. PAN up to Charlie's face, he looks pleased with himself.



5. INT. CHARLIE'S OFFICE - A SMALL CUBICLE - DAY

Fred is revealed to be standing behind Charlie's chair.

FRED: "Are there stairs in your house?"

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

FitFortDanga posted:

4. CHARLIE'S COMPUTER SCREEN

Charlie types "vapid oval office" on his keyboard, and clicks the "Submit Reply" button. PAN up to Charlie's face, he looks pleased with himself.



5. INT. CHARLIE'S OFFICE - A SMALL CUBICLE - DAY

Fred is revealed to be standing behind Charlie's chair.

FRED: "Are there stairs in your house?"

There's nothing adult about what we do here.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Affi posted:

My girlfriend hates good movies :(:(:(

What are bad movies that I might like to watch with her? She loves romantic comedies.

Help me find a good movie disguised as a horrible lovely movie she would like!

:psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

The only thing that comes immediately to mind is 10 Things I Hate About You.

Or Mean Girls.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole

Ornamented Death posted:

:psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

The only thing that comes immediately to mind is 10 Things I Hate About You.

Or Mean Girls.

Down With Love

peer
Jan 17, 2004

this is not what I wanted

Ornamented Death posted:

:psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

The only thing that comes immediately to mind is 10 Things I Hate About You.

Or Mean Girls.

My girlfriend made me watch Mean Girls and it was a lot better than you'd expect, with some genuinely funny parts. Plus Lindsay Lohan was pretty hot back then.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Affi posted:

My girlfriend hates good movies :(:(:(

What are bad movies that I might like to watch with her? She loves romantic comedies.

She doesn't want to see anything with diCaprio for absolutely no reason, she scoffs at animated movies, she thought Pulp Fiction was long and boring and she thought Shawshank Redemption was stupid. She refuses anything fantasy or sci-fi, having seen ten minutes of Lord of the Ring and twelve of Alien. Horror is horrible and anything with a deeper meening goes right past her :(

Help me find a good movie disguised as a horrible lovely movie she would like!

Clueless?

KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

Are you alive?

Affi posted:


Help me find a good movie disguised as a horrible lovely movie she would like!

Forgetting Sarah Marshall ? (not that I think it's disguised as a lovely movie, I just think it might qualify for one she'd like)

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

MY GIRLFRIEND liked The Bucket List.

...but she also liked Casablanca.

Binowru
Feb 15, 2007

I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird.

Affi posted:

My girlfriend hates good movies :(:(:(

What are bad movies that I might like to watch with her? She loves romantic comedies.

She doesn't want to see anything with diCaprio for absolutely no reason, she scoffs at animated movies, she thought Pulp Fiction was long and boring and she thought Shawshank Redemption was stupid. She refuses anything fantasy or sci-fi, having seen ten minutes of Lord of the Ring and twelve of Alien. Horror is horrible and anything with a deeper meening goes right past her :(

Help me find a good movie disguised as a horrible lovely movie she would like!

Annie Hall

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Affi posted:

Help me find a good movie disguised as a horrible lovely movie she would like!

Are you sure you don't just want to get a new girlfriend?

Otherwise, Down with Love. Maybe About a Boy? Possibly Eternal Sunshine?

e: If you start 15 minutes into Gross Point Blank you might be able to trick her long enough for her to get involved.

feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jan 25, 2011

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat
i don't know anyone who didn't enjoy The Princess Bride.

i know people poo-poo it, but I actually really, really like Intolerable Cruelty.

How about good biopics? Walk The Line? That's a hard one to dislike. Legally Blonde and Drop-Dead Gorgeous are also thoroughly entertaining and rather good.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT
Why in the hell is there no release of the Magnolia score!? The Aimee Mann songs are wonderful, but the original score is one of my all time favorites and I can't find it ANYWHERE.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
It's here.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT
What the hell?

Well, gee, thanks. All I could find on Amazon was the Aimee Mann songs

Ninja Gamer
Nov 3, 2004

Through howling winds and pouring rain, all evil shall fear The Hurricane!

Affi posted:

My girlfriend hates good movies :(:(:(

What are bad movies that I might like to watch with her? She loves romantic comedies.

She doesn't want to see anything with diCaprio for absolutely no reason, she scoffs at animated movies, she thought Pulp Fiction was long and boring and she thought Shawshank Redemption was stupid. She refuses anything fantasy or sci-fi, having seen ten minutes of Lord of the Ring and twelve of Alien. Horror is horrible and anything with a deeper meening goes right past her :(

Help me find a good movie disguised as a horrible lovely movie she would like!

Yeah, you might want to consider dumping her.

Until then, I would suggest Love, Actually, The Sure Thing, maybe My Best Friends Wedding and then you can try to move that theme into the screwball comedies that serve as their ancestors. It Happened One Night was one of my favorites and I believe it was direct inspiration for The Sure Thing. Depending on how that one is received, you could follow with Ball of Fire and/or Bringing Up Baby.

NeuroticErotica
Sep 9, 2003

Perform sex? Uh uh, I don't think I'm up to a performance, but I'll rehearse with you...

We can't shoot what characters are thinking. Only FFD passes the screenwriter's test...

Until he wrote camera directions in there.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
That's because he's an auteur.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole

NeuroticErotica posted:

We can't shoot what characters are thinking. Only FFD passes the screenwriter's test...

Until he wrote camera directions in there.

That's not a camera direction... it's, uh, an actual frying pan going into his face.

Really, you don't put camera directions in a screenplay? EVER? Certainly a writer sometimes has specific camera ideas in mind. Please explain.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
If it's absolutely necessary that a scene have a certain angle (i.e. to conceal something or it's a POV shot) you can write it in, but it has to be rare.

"Angle On: blahblahblah" is a common phrasing- it suggests that something should be emphasized without telling the director/D.P. how.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

NeuroticErotica posted:

We can't shoot what characters are thinking. Only FFD passes the screenwriter's test...

Until he wrote camera directions in there.

The burden of screenwriting is trying not to write about the screen.


One fascinating script is Napoleon. Abel Gance directed, wrote, edited, and co-starred in the film. The script is stunning. Despite the basis of a highly visual film, it's almost like reading a novel. Beautifully written.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
I'd like another crack at my draft, anyway. I realize now that a Kindle would be a lot more thematically potent than an iPad.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

FitFortDanga posted:

That's not a camera direction... it's, uh, an actual frying pan going into his face.

Really, you don't put camera directions in a screenplay? EVER? Certainly a writer sometimes has specific camera ideas in mind. Please explain.

You want to refrain from camera directions unless you are directing as well. Like I said in another thread, PT Anderson's scripts are completely full of detailed camera movement descriptions.

my general philosophy is "write what we see on the screen in the plainest of languages" so it is a lot of "She does this. Then she does this. Then he walks in in a rush and-" etc.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole

the Bunt posted:

You want to refrain from camera directions unless you are directing as well. Like I said in another thread, PT Anderson's scripts are completely full of detailed camera movement descriptions.

Yeah okay, that's what I wanted to know, and what I figured. It's not completely unheard of or anything.

So take that, Mr. Smartypants Sundance.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Magic Hate Ball posted:

1. INT. BREAKFAST ROOM - DAY

CHARLIE pours himself a nice big bowl of Grape Nuts and sips his black coffee while reading the business section of the New York Times...

:lol:


The one that always annoys me is:

Announcer: "Viewer discretion is advised."

Me: "That goes without saying. Who doesn't use discretion when watching something? And if watching this forthcoming TV show/movie implies inherent bad judgment then how can anyone watch it? It's some sort of perverse paradox."

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Affi posted:

My girlfriend hates good movies :(:(:(

What are bad movies that I might like to watch with her? She loves romantic comedies.

She doesn't want to see anything with diCaprio for absolutely no reason, she scoffs at animated movies, she thought Pulp Fiction was long and boring and she thought Shawshank Redemption was stupid. She refuses anything fantasy or sci-fi, having seen ten minutes of Lord of the Ring and twelve of Alien. Horror is horrible and anything with a deeper meening goes right past her :(

Help me find a good movie disguised as a horrible lovely movie she would like!

Before Sunrise / Before Sunset (the two greatest movies ever made, best enjoyed with a few weeks between them to let the first one "settle" in your mind)
Chungking Express

All romantic movies but with greatness oozing out of them.

e: If a girl I was dating *didn't* think Before Sunrise and Before Sunset were 5* movies, I would no-joke break up with her, because just based on that I'd know we didn't have much in common.

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Jan 26, 2011

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

regulargonzalez posted:

Before Sunrise / Before Sunset (the two greatest movies ever made, best enjoyed with a few weeks between them to let the first one "settle" in your mind)
Chungking Express

All romantic movies but with greatness oozing out of them.

I seriously doubt his girl is going to like loving Chungking Express if she thought Pulp Fiction was long and boring.

Criminal Minded
Jan 4, 2005

Spring break forever
Watch Shoah with her in one sitting.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Mean Bean Machine posted:

At first I thought it was just a way to convey some excitement, and that the best way the director thought to do it (with the more limited means back then) was to put that part in fast-motion. Then I realized how dumb that was, since this is loving Hitchcock we're talking about, and if he did it, he must have had a good reason for it.
Sort of an old quote from this thread, but I did want to ask, more generally, about this.

People always say of the great directors, "Everything they did was on purpose, nothing was accidental, everything has a reason." But it's my experience that all the workaday guys - all the ones making genre movies like Food Porn and rom-coms and gross-out comedies - they all have reasons for what they do, and are solid, effective directors.

So many times in a commentary on a DVD the director says "this extra was super-funny, so we put him up front" or "the actor just said it this way and we went with it." It just seems so arbitrary who is "a genius" in filmmaking.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

NeuroticErotica posted:

We can't shoot what characters are thinking. Only FFD passes the screenwriter's test...

drat, yet another rejection to add to my pile.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
We just need James Cameron to engineer some sort of aural fourth dimension for the ninth re-release of Avatar.

kapalama
Aug 15, 2007

:siren:EVERYTHING I SAY ABOUT JAPAN OR LIVING IN JAPAN IS COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT YOU BETTER BELIEVE I'LL :spergin: ABOUT IT.:siren:

PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR IGNORE LIST.

IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A JAPAN THREAD, PLEASE PM A MODERATOR SO THAT I CAN BE BANNED.

tendrilsfor20 posted:

So many times in a commentary on a DVD the director says "this extra was super-funny, so we put him up front" or "the actor just said it this way and we went with it." It just seems so arbitrary who is "a genius" in filmmaking.

There was that recent "Abed in the background" story in Community the TV series that makes me think anyone who spends all day doing anything tends to be good at it.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Magic Hate Ball posted:

We just need James Cameron to engineer some sort of aural fourth dimension for the ninth re-release of Avatar.

gently caress that, bring back smellovision!

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
When Neytiri says "I see you!" it will be literally true.

Quad
Dec 31, 2007

I've seen pogs you people wouldn't believe
On Little Shop of Horrors: "there was a point where two scenes would not cut together. It was just a visual jolt, and it didn't work. And they needed something to bridge that moment. They found in the editing room a nice shot of the moon, and they cut it in, and it worked. Twenty years go by. I'm at the studio one day. Chuck comes running up to me, says, 'You've got to see this!' It was a magazine article—eight pages on the symbolism of the moon in Little Shop of Horrors."

Granted, Corman wasn't an auteur, but I think the point stands that while there IS a reason for every shot, sometimes its a simple reason.
And sometimes, like with David Lynch, it's there in order to be overanalyzed, because he's a goddamn troll.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
We Don't Live Here Anymore is a romantic comedy right?

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the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Quad posted:


Granted, Corman wasn't an auteur, but I think the point stands that while there IS a reason for every shot, sometimes its a simple reason.
And sometimes, like with David Lynch, it's there in order to be overanalyzed, because he's a goddamn troll.

I don't think Lynch has this intent at all. To me, his work is like an aural stream-of-consciousness novel. He believes that everything comes from one unified place, even if to many people it appears like he's just pulling the rug from under everyone for the sake of loving with them. While that aspect might be intended as well, I just can't see his work as "trolling".

Well, okay, maybe Wild at Heart.

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