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Most Dark Tower stuff was written first in a book without particular regard to the Dark Tower series and then later referenced in the Dark Tower books. Plus you know a evil immortal spider-like creature that feeds on fear and poo poo and already has an enemy on the universe scale is something that kind of belongs in the world of the Dark Tower.
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All this talk about movie adaptations, but I haven't seen anybody mention Misery yet. I've never actually watched the movie, but Misery is one of my all time favorite King books. It's one of those books that has actually disturbed me in different ways each time I read it/ as I grow older. Also, re-reading Bag of Bones and I somehow managed to forget how slow it starts off. Ugh.
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Jan 16, 2011 03:10
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Haven't had a chance to read the book yet, but see the movie (Misery) as soon as possible. Great movie and Kathy Bates is amazing in it.
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Jan 16, 2011 03:25
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Acquire Currency! posted:IT was actually a pretty good read, and the movie was good. At least to me. But after all this Dark Tower nonsense King suckered me into reading I saw that there is a version of IT that, of course, plays off the Dark Tower. Somehow IT follows the path of the turtle or tortoise and now every time a character sees one of those things there starts paragraphs on how the character finds the turtle significant. Dark Tower just ruins everything it touches. I wondered about that too. The first time I read any of "It" it was from a roughed-up paperback I had found lying around my high school before Dark Tower was even finished, and it only went up to the part where the adults go off to explore Derry before the missing pages started. I figured that turtle stuff was something he added later, because I didn't really remember anything about turtles before--although it's been about six years, so who knows? Overall it was a pretty good book though. Especially since in most of his books the worst that could happen was that you could be killed, but if It got you then you would spend eternity in a void filled with things that would destroy your brain the second you looked at them. "Misery" is probably my favorite King book of all time though, if only for the part where he completes the manuscript and burns a fake one right in front of her, fully intending to torment her AND walk away with a novel that's sure to make him a shitload of money if he can escape.
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Jan 16, 2011 19:16
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Philo posted:All this talk about movie adaptations, but I haven't seen anybody mention Misery yet. I've never actually watched the movie, but Misery is one of my all time favorite King books. It's one of those books that has actually disturbed me in different ways each time I read it/ as I grow older. I'm reading Misery for the first time in years and it's shocking just how well plotted, paced and sensitively it's done. The best part I've found so far is when he opens up Annie's 'Memory Lane' book about all the obituraries of her victims. Compared to the famous "hobbling" scene (which is waaaaaaaaaay worse in the book than film) it's just outright psychological horror, and it's genuinely disturbing stuff.
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Jan 22, 2011 21:26
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cheerfullydrab posted:The only Stephen King story that will never ever be adapted in any way is Dedication. What's Dedication (is it in Nightmares and Dreamscapes?) and why will it never be adapted?
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Jan 22, 2011 23:23
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:What's Dedication (is it in Nightmares and Dreamscapes?) and why will it never be adapted? A hotel housekeeper eats a famous author's semen off his bedsheets as part of a magic spell to make her unborn baby smart and famous like the author. (I haven't read that story in about ten years, so this is all half-remembered, but it is admittedly hard to forget.)
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Jan 23, 2011 00:11
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A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:A hotel housekeeper eats a famous author's semen off his bedsheets as part of a magic spell to make her unborn baby smart and famous like the author. If I remember right she was a recent African immigrant as well. So that would look really good on film, or the page for that matter.
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Jan 23, 2011 00:14
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A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:A hotel housekeeper eats a famous author's semen off his bedsheets as part of a magic spell to make her unborn baby smart and famous like the author. Oh goddamn you, I'd forgotten that one. She also used a magic spell to kill the baby's father using a mushroom she squashed into (and I quote) "a penis shape" and shoved it into his gun
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Jan 24, 2011 05:33
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You do know King has the Dollar Baby scheme still in place, right? Maybe we could pony up that dollar and adapt it just to see if we could somehow make it.. erm, palatable to a web-based audience. So who's up for it? I was thinking flash episodes, maybe four, in the same vein as N and see how far we could push it. So what say you? Yay or Nay?
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Jan 24, 2011 09:11
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clarabelle posted:Oh goddamn you, I'd forgotten that one. She also used a magic spell to kill the baby's father using a mushroom she squashed into (and I quote) "a penis shape" and shoved it into his gun As I recall, the father was a walking "negative black male" stereotype (drinking, gambling, stealing) and who, upon learning his wife was pregnant, beat her in the hopes that she'd miscarry. I also seem to recall the white writer whose semen she was scarfing down was slightly racist, but it has been a while since I read that story. I wouldn't say it's impossible that "Dedication" could ever be adapted as a big-time feature film, though. All it takes is someone in Hollywood applying the right about of gloss ("Let's scrap all the semen eating, and make the writer younger and more handsome, and have them romantically involved or something"), and I can easily see it being pitched as a starring vehicle for an up-and-coming black actress.
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Jan 25, 2011 14:44
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If you have to completely eliminate the worst part of it, you might as well not make it, though. It'd be like if they made a version of IT without the underage gang-rape in the sew.... oh wait.
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Jan 26, 2011 19:47
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Quad posted:If you have to completely eliminate the worst part of it, you might as well not make it, though. It'd be like if they made a version of IT without the underage gang-rape in the sew.... oh wait. It wasn't underage gang rape, it was underage gang love. That makes it all okay.
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Jan 28, 2011 14:20
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If you can think of a better way of defeating ultimate evil, then I'd like to hear it! In the mean time, we need to do things by the book  On a serious note, I still don't get what was the point of that scene. Best as I can remember they were like "Hey, we are all lost in the sewers.....welp, I guess we better get at it" *take off clothes*
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Jan 28, 2011 14:34
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JammyLammy posted:If you can think of a better way of defeating ultimate evil, then I'd like to hear it! In the mean time, we need to do things by the book I just finished the audiobook part of that scene and the impression I had was this: "The kids were lost in the sewers. The big adult feelings and status they had assumed in getting rid of IT were fading and they were emotionally and mentally children again. Intuiting this, Beverly decided the best thing to do was bring them closer to adulthood the quickest way her instincts could make them--by way of sex/intimacy/intercourse. After loving, they were just adult enough to realize where the exit was." It's vaguely Peter Pan-esque bullshit, but from what I could gather it had an internal logic. It doesn't make the scene seem any less out of the blue though, because if I hadn't already read up on some of the subtext to "IT" and heard about how so much of it involves the kids facing their fears and growing up and being resistant to IT's effects, I would have been all what the poo poo is this?.
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Jan 28, 2011 18:41
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I'm pretty sure they will also never turn Rage into a movie.
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Jan 28, 2011 22:37
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juliuspringle posted:I'm pretty sure they will also never turn Rage into a movie. They made Elephant didn't they? Although, that didn't get a very wide release, iirc.
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Jan 29, 2011 01:32
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juliuspringle posted:I'm pretty sure they will also never turn Rage into a movie. A shame. I can just hear a Dexter-like inner monologue now: "Lock me. Unlock me. I am Titus, the helpful padlock."
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Jan 29, 2011 04:21
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When I first read the IT orgy scene, Bev is getting hosed by the fat kid and she says "He's so BIG" and I thought she meant his penis. The scene is about ten times creepier when you interpret the line that way!
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Jan 29, 2011 14:59
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Tom Ripley posted:When I first read the IT orgy scene, Bev is getting hosed by the fat kid and she says "He's so BIG" and I thought she meant his penis. The scene is about ten times creepier when you interpret the line that way! How old are these kids supposed to be?
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Jan 30, 2011 03:19
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Tom Ripley posted:When I first read the IT orgy scene, Bev is getting hosed by the fat kid and she says "He's so BIG" and I thought she meant his penis. The scene is about ten times creepier when you interpret the line that way! Pretty sure thats what she meant. clarabelle posted:How old are these kids supposed to be? I think early teens. Its been ages since I read that book
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Jan 30, 2011 03:32
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IIRC (I listened to the audiobook while doing other things) they were in the summer between fifth grade and sixth, so 11-12ish.
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Jan 30, 2011 04:32
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They're between 11 and 13.
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Jan 30, 2011 04:38
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Tom Ripley posted:When I first read the IT orgy scene, Bev is getting hosed by the fat kid and she says "He's so BIG" and I thought she meant his penis. The scene is about ten times creepier when you interpret the line that way! Well, in fact ... Stephen King on DRUGS posted:There is a long wait, and then Ben comes to her.  And that's where I refused to copy any more  But I can tell you, she comes like a fountain  It's location 21449 on the Kindle.
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Jan 30, 2011 04:47
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Well thanks to that revelation, my Stephen King boycott is remaining firmly in place. Does that not count as some kind of child pornography?
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Jan 30, 2011 20:55
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clarabelle posted:Well thanks to that revelation, my Stephen King boycott is remaining firmly in place. Does that not count as some kind of child pornography? It's a horror story. It's about bad things happening and people doing poo poo they really shouldn't be doing.
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Jan 30, 2011 20:59
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clarabelle posted:Well thanks to that revelation, my Stephen King boycott is remaining firmly in place. Does that not count as some kind of child pornography? It's words on paper, I promise you no children were harmed in its creation.
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Jan 30, 2011 21:02
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clarabelle posted:Well thanks to that revelation, my Stephen King boycott is remaining firmly in place. Does that not count as some kind of child pornography? What, do you want to burn it?
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Jan 30, 2011 21:44
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I hope those fictional children were taken away and given to fiction foster homes where they can assume normal fictional lives  The same logic could say that Brent Ellis should be held for murder charges because of the stuff he wrote in American Psycho =/
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Jan 30, 2011 21:44
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brylcreem posted:What, do you want to burn it? No, but it creeps me the hell out (and not in the normal horror-story way)
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Jan 30, 2011 21:58
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clarabelle posted:No, but it creeps me the hell out (and not in the normal horror-story way) Well yeah, but please keep your morality out of my books.
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Jan 30, 2011 22:16
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From what I recall about reading IT, I believe the pre-pubescent gangbang scene in question wasn't supposed to necessarily be super horrific, since it was a positive "bonding experience" type thing.  Either way though, it is perfectly natural to be freaked out by that section of the book as well as Stephen King in general.
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Jan 30, 2011 22:24
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Locus posted:From what I recall about reading IT, I believe the pre-pubescent gangbang scene in question wasn't supposed to necessarily be super horrific, since it was a positive "bonding experience" type thing. I was pre-pubescent when I read it and didn't bat an eye. I suppose I just took it at face value back then.
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Jan 31, 2011 00:32
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Locus posted:From what I recall about reading IT, I believe the pre-pubescent gangbang scene in question wasn't supposed to necessarily be super horrific, since it was a positive "bonding experience" type thing. The beginning chapters of the book point out that none of them ever had kids either which ties in to the whole gangbang thing really.
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In non-gangbang news, looks like The Stand is getting a movie adaptation:quote:Stephen King's grand opus The Stand is finally getting the big-screen treatment. I thought that the miniseries was decent enough, but fell apart in the last hour or so (the ending of a King work falters at the end?  ), but the first half of it was compelling and the casting was generally quite good. Not sure how this translates into a two-hour film though.
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Feb 1, 2011 03:55
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:I was pre-pubescent when I read it and didn't bat an eye. I suppose I just took it at face value back then. This. I read IT for the first time in 6th grade and I remember not even being phased by it. It just didn't even bother me at all. As an adult, however, it is a very uncomforable/gross scene.
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Feb 1, 2011 04:18
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el oso posted:In non-gangbang news, looks like The Stand is getting a movie adaptation: I will see this in theatres if the ending features a Monty Python esque cut out hand descending from the sky.
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Feb 1, 2011 04:20
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Philo posted:This. I read IT for the first time in 6th grade and I remember not even being phased by it. It just didn't even bother me at all. As an adult, however, it is a very uncomforable/gross scene. Yeah I first read it in 6th grade and honestly wasn't bothered at all. Probably helped that there was a girl in another 6th grade class that year who was out of school starting in october that year because she got pregnant.
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Feb 1, 2011 04:31
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el oso posted:In non-gangbang news, looks like The Stand is getting a I guess we're going to see Randall Flagg cast twice in the coming months.
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SpeedofLife posted:I guess we're going to see Randall Flagg cast twice in the coming months. I'm positive it won't happen but it would be pretty cool if they cast the same actor in The Stand and The Dark Tower. I also have absolutely no idea how The Stand can possibly be condensed into a movie. I thought the miniseries could have had maybe an hour trimmed off of it but really couldn't be made a whole lot shorter without seriously hashing up the plot.
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