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DoctorJones posted:For the prerelease, do all your cards have to share the same faction symbol or are you free to use Mirran cards from your SOM boosters/Mythics in your Phyrexia deck and vice versa? You're free to use whatever cards you open. It's just that the Mirran/Phyrexian factions are split for the MBS packs. So yes, you can use the opposite faction's cards you opened from the SOM packs. Also I hope that I get in a game where my opponent and I both get Consecrated Sphinxes. 
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Fox of Stone posted:You're free to use whatever cards you open. It's just that the Mirran/Phyrexian factions are split for the MBS packs. So yes, you can use the opposite faction's cards you opened from the SOM packs. It's a may effect. But deciding when to stop would be fun.
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I should have said that I hope I get into that game with a ballsy player too. It'll be fun playing chicken with draws.
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Jan 27, 2011 19:25
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Consecrated Sphinx. Go. Draw card. Draw two cards. Consecrated Sphinx. Go. Draw card. Draw two cards. Two triggers on on the stack. Draw two cards. Two triggers go on the stack....... let me get my pad of paper.
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Jan 27, 2011 20:26
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Finally, a use for those 14th pick Venser's Journals 
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Pinwiz11 posted:Consecrated Sphinx. Go. The consecrated sphinx mirror: the best mirror.
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Jan 27, 2011 20:30
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I'm pretty sure the guy with Blue Sun's Zenith wins our magical christmasland match. That would be loving wonderful to do, though 
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Jan 27, 2011 20:48
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Nope. The guy with the blightsteel colossus wins. Funny enough, both are phyrexian. Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jan 27, 2011 |
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Jan 27, 2011 20:58
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Fox of Stone posted:Nope. The guy with the blightsteel colossus wins. No he doesn't. You both draw most of your deck and then you blue-sun them into drawing more than their deck holds.
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Vanilla Bison posted:Just chiming in to say that I'm also watching and enjoying your videos, Imaduck. I'll throw a link to your draft playlists in the OP when I update it for Mirrodin Besieged. New video up: http://www.youtube.com/luluscards . This time with marginally less sucking!
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Jan 27, 2011 21:54
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The Sphinx off is just a big game of chicken really. The "loop" ends when someone doesn't want to draw anymore. edit: and you cannot be milled with an Infiltration Lens unless you want to be milled. Has anyone made the 6 x Screeching Silclaw.dec work? I've only seen a few of them played while wartching drafts. Bugsy fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Jan 27, 2011 |
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Jan 27, 2011 23:03
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Bugsy posted:The Sphinx off is just a big game of chicken really. The "loop" ends when someone doesn't want to draw anymore. I've attacked with more Silclaws with Barbed Battlegear for lethal than I've ever managed to actually get a player within 4 turns of death.
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Jan 27, 2011 23:43
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Bugsy posted:The Sphinx off is just a big game of chicken really. The "loop" ends when someone doesn't want to draw anymore.
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Imaduck posted:Sort of, but you're drawing two cards for every one card they draw, meaning their Sphinx will then trigger twice. If they then use it, you can then get 4 draws, and so on. It adds up pretty darn fast. They're all "may" effects, and they're all only two at a time. So bugsy is, in essence, correct. It doesn't really matter how fast they add up, that just means you'd (theoretically) have to go "no I still don't want to draw two more" a bunch more times when you're done.
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Ashenai posted:They're all "may" effects, and they're all only two at a time. So bugsy is, in essence, correct. It doesn't really matter how fast they add up, that just means you'd (theoretically) have to go "no I still don't want to draw two more" a bunch more times when you're done. Or maybe we're all saying the same thing and I just misinterpreted his post.
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Did a quick tally for removal cards in MBS and came up with this: Mirran - 9: 6 - R 2 - W 1 - B Phyrexia - 15: 4 - W 4 - B 3 - G 3 - U 1 - R This hasn't been double checked, but it doesn't help my decision for which faction to choose for prerelease.
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DoctorJones posted:Did a quick tally for removal cards in MBS and came up with this: Well, you won't actually be playing the white or red removal if you're choosing Phyrexia, whereas the W/R removal in Mirran is in the colours you'll be playing, so it's really more like Mirran - 9: 6 - R 2 - W 1 - B Phyrexia - 10: 4 - B 3 - G 3 - U
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Jan 28, 2011 16:47
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Again, don't forget that Mirran's removal is skewed towards common, whereas Phyrexia's is uncommon. You're more likely to open more removal cards as Mirran, but fewer, better ones as Phyrexia.
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Something to play around with while waiting for tomorrow: http://boosterme.heroku.com/choose Naturally doesn't take print runs into account, but anyway.
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Chajusong posted:Well, you won't actually be playing the white or red removal if you're choosing Phyrexia, whereas the W/R removal in Mirran is in the colours you'll be playing, so it's really more like You can still splash most of it. Lunael posted:Something to play around with while waiting for tomorrow: I did this, picked Phyrexia, got 2 Koths in my Scars packs 
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Lone Goat posted:You can still splash most of it. Obviously you should pick Phyrexia tomorrow.
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That program really highlights the variance of the Phyrexian side. Sometimes, I can barely cobble together 11 infect dudes in BWG. In another, I had like 12 infect dudes in black and artifacts, and 3 Corrupted Consciences.
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It would be cool if that program actually could replicate print runs. It would also be cool if I could open Carnifex Demon, Massacre Wurm, and double Bone Hoard in real life.
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Just won my sealed prerelease. I wanted to go mirran, but got thrown into phyrexia and drew the following: 1 phyrexian rebirth 1 black sun's zenith 1 hand of the praetors 1 true conviction 1 argentum armor 1 necrotic ooze 3 spread the sickness 3 tine shrike 2 leaden myr 1 rust tick 1 carrion call 1 painsmith 2 flensermite 1 plague myr 1 cystbearer 1 priests of norn 1 phyrexian juggernaut 7 plains 3 forest 7 swamp The hand of the praetor was a foil and my 7th rare was creeping corrosion - the blow up all artifacts for 2gg. That decklist contains every card with infect on it that I pulled, I felt weird about running white without access to any revokes etc. but I just had to do it. Turns out blowing up someone's battlesphere, myrs, and other dudes and getting a big fat blocker on the board works pretty well. The rares alone nearly made me poo poo myself, but pulling 3x kill target creature, proliferate and 3x flying 2/1 infect dudes was just out of control. I cast black sun's zenith 3 times, every single time I cast it it just felt like I was cheating. That card is so easy to set up a profitable board state for in infect it's just a little bit out of control.
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So... how many Infect dudes do I usually want for an infect deck/how many artifacts for metalcraft?
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Just got back from a Midnight Prerelease and split Top 8 (4-1-1) playing Phyrexia. Ended up putting together a straight forward GB Infect with no Rares in it. My rares were horrible: - Black Sun's Zenith (great card, but not in Infect) - Spine of Ish Whatevs - Magnetic Mine (once again, useless for Infect) - Geth, Lord of the Vault (out of mana curve) - Asceticism - Semblance Anvil Beyond that, the big thing I discovered in an Prerelease Infect mirror is that card advantage is key. Anything that would net me extra cards was immediately slotted in post-board. Pinwiz11 fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Jan 29, 2011 |
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It looks like you could have run Geth, Black Sun's Zenith, and Asceticism and had a late game way to generate massive card advantage??? They don't have 100% synergy, but board wipes are never 'bad'. What was your white bringing to the table that was better?
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Necronomiconomist posted:It looks like you could have run Geth, Black Sun's Zenith, and Asceticism and had a late game way to generate massive card advantage??? They don't have 100% synergy, but board wipes are never 'bad'. I mistyped. It was GB instead of GW. (My one loss was to GW Infect.) Since I could only really go all-in Infect with the cards that I had, I went with as many guys, removal spells, and card advantage as possible. My fear with the Zenith was that it would wipe the board and I wouldn't have anything with which to finish the game off. I probably should have considered Asceticism with I went up against Mirran decks, but I focused the deck on trying to get that last point or two of poison through.
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Pinwiz11 posted:I mistyped. It was GB instead of GW. (My one loss was to GW Infect.) When you have a Wrath effect in your deck, you hold back creatures in your hand so that when you wrath you're killing off more of your opponent's creatures than yours. Also, after you Wrath you could play Geth, and start resurrecting your opponent's creatures. It's a sealed deck, there's no way your curve stops before 6.
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Geth also plays well in the aggro Infect deck since your opponent is going to be using their removal pretty freely, making it likely they don't have a piece to handle him (since you don't put Geth into the red zone).
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Dropped from our prerelease at 2-1. After two straight RW mirrors I had bile tasting in my mouth and just didn't want to play (and frankly, I'm not too sure whether I would've went 4-2 for prizes anyway with the deck). Pool and words: Artifacts: Signal Pest Copper Myr, 2 Iron Myr, 2 Gold Myr, Perilous Myr, Necropede, Snapsail Glider, Training Drone, Myr Galvanizer, Myr Propagator, Corpse Cur, Soliton, Kuldotha Forgemaster, 2 Razorfield Rhino, 3 Hexplate Golem Accorder's Shield, Copper Carapace, Silverskin Armor, Echo Circlet, Sphere of the Suns, Viridian Claw, Heavy Arbalest, Titan Forge, Contagion Engine Contagion Engine was the only real bomb of the pool, and it has the obvious synergy with Titan Forge which is going to the deck no matter what if only to test it out. Forgemaster was nice to see, I've been wanting to try out deck with Forgemaster and Contagion Engine. Fortunate spread of colours on the manamyr! Green: Carapace Forger, Tangle Mantis, Melira's Keepers, Putrefax, Alpha Tyrranax 2 Mirran Mettle, Withstand Death, Tel-Jilad Defiance Nothing here that would make me want to play green. Black: Painsmith, Blistergrup, Ichor Rats, Blackcleave Goblin, Sangromancer Almost same here. No removal, no reason to look into fitting Painsmith and Sangromancer. Blue: Plated Seastrider, Mirran Spy, Treasure Mage, Scrapdiver Serpent Twisted Image, Vault Skyward, Turn Aside, Turn the Tide, Quicksilver Geyser, Volition Reins Blue is such a shitbin even with Besieged in. Volition Reins is obviously nice but calls for fairly heavy blue commitment, Treasure Mage could fetch me the Contagion Engine... but that's it. White: Ardent Recruit, Leonin Skyhunter, Gore Vassal, Mirran Crusader, Kemba's Skyguard, Ghalma's Warden, 2 Loxodon Partisan Divine Offering, Whitesun's Passage, Arrest, Frantic Salvage Mirran Crusader is a pretty massive roadblock for straight BG Infect, there's couple of fliers and average beef. Plus a couple of removal which makes white pretty much a no-brainer. Red: Goblin Wardriver, Ferrovore, 2 Koth's Courier, Blade-Tribe Berserkers, Oxidda Scrapmelter, Ogre Resister, Spiraling Duelist, Kuldotha Ringleader, Scoria Elemental, Ogre Geargrabber, 3 Gnathosaur, Kuldotha Flamefiend Shatter, Rally the Forcer, 2 Concussive Bolt As much as I liked seeing Kuldotha Flamefiend and Oxidda Scrapmelter, I was kinda hoping for a bit more in the removal department. Not even any of those 2/1 gobbos that ping for 1 when ETB, which by the way are pretty good. Ended up building artifact heavy RW with the couple of the Chrome-Steed-on-Steroids in. Actually managed to roll out some 9/9s in several games!
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So apparently a draft deck with 2 Vedalken Anatomists, 2 Corrupted Consciences, Black Sun's Zenith, Strata Scythe, and motherfucking CONSECRATED SPHINX is pretty good. Someone passed me the Consecrated Sphinx pack 1 pick 2 because he "wasn't playing blue" 
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http://draft.bestiaire.org/ has MBS up for you to mock draft with.
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atastypie posted:http://draft.bestiaire.org/ has MBS up for you to mock draft with. Of course, the pack order is wrong. It's useless as is.
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Johflop posted:Of course, the pack order is wrong. It's useless as is. Unless they fixed it since you posted, draft order is correct.
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Lets Pickle posted:Someone passed me the Consecrated Sphinx pack 1 pick 2 because he "wasn't playing blue" If he got solid card in a colour he was playing, no problem with that.
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Went to a midnight prerelease, went 5-1, there was no top. (Because it was 6 AM!) Phyrexian deck with lots of solid cards, but zero bombs. My rares were: Decimator Web (Played Clasp over this) Magnetic Mine (lols worst rare in set?) Phyrexian Revoker (Sweet for constructed...) Prototype Portal (Not bad, just not good enough. Especially glad I didn't play it in face of the RIDICULOUS amount of artifact hate Mirran decks got.) Mindslaver (too slow, especially for this sealed format. Happy I didn't play it, would have never had a good opportunity.) Some other garbage.
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Lunael posted:If he got solid card in a colour he was playing, no problem with that. How could he know which colors he'd be playing after only one pick?
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GottaPayDaTrollToll posted:How could he know which colors he'd be playing after only one pick? gently caress, my mistake, read that "pack 2" for some reason. Sorry. Yeah, the Sphinx is pretty good reason to dive into the cesspool that is Mirrodin blue.
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